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BBCNEWS Outside Source July 13, 2024

That. And china announces new guidelines that aim to restrict young people playing online video games for long periods. We will find out how why and how it will work. Day one of the Election Campaign here in the uk and Labour Deputy Leader Tom Watson has announced hes stepping down. Eliminate its a very personal decision, not a political one. Eliminate its a very personal decision, nota political one. Ive been on the front line for 30 years. And 52 years old, ive been on a Health Journey for the last few yea rs. Health journey for the last few years. Im still deputy leader until 12 december, so i will be out on the road campaigning. Then after that, it isa road campaigning. Then after that, it is a brave new world. Jessica parkeris it is a brave new world. Jessica parker is with us. Lots of people think it could be political . M parker is with us. Lots of people think it could be political . It is well known that tom watson and Jeremy Corbyn clashed on some issues, notably on brexit and what was sometimes seen issues, notably on brexit and what was sometimes seen 3s issues, notably on brexit and what was sometimes seen as straying on brexit policy, making the leaderships lives more difficult. He seemed to be more pro remain, talk about having a referendum before an election. He carried a lot of labour mps with before an election. He carried a lot of labourmps with him. Before an election. He carried a lot of labour mps with him. He was seen as something of a rival power in the parliamentary labour party. Again with mp5, those who saw themselves on the more moderate wing of the party. And i think Touching Base with a few of those mps this evening, some of them say they are saddened and shocked by tom watsons to partner, her departure. But if you look at the clips there, he is saying this is very much a personal, not a political decision. In the exchange of letters between himself and Jeremy Corbyn seem at face value very amicable. Although this will presumably make the equation is slightly simpler one for the leadership as it approaches this campaign and the issue of brexit. From what i understand, tom watson will remain as a deputy leader until the election is completed, although the election is completed, although the is obviously stepping down as mp. He says hes not leaving politics altogether and he wants to fight the tories. But perhaps it means the leadership has more control over its message going into the election, if indeed tom watson had any prospect of presenting difficulties during the campaign. 0ften parties do try to come together if at all possible during an general Election Campaign because they want to win their own seats as well as see their colleagues and friends when seats come as well. Another thing speculated tonight, to tom watson think he is vulnerable in his seat . He has Something Like an 8000 majority, which seems like a fairly sizeable majority. But lets not forget, it was quite recently that there was that rather dramatic episode on the eve of the Labour Party Conference where it was emerging that there was a move to oust tom watson from his position as deputy leader byjohn landsman, the founder of momentum, that Campaign Group that backsJeremy Corbyns leadership. That leadership bid failed. Jeremy corbyn stepped in later, but they did talk about reviewing the position of deputy leader, and i think will be quite interesting to see what happens in that position. I think lots within the labour party would expect labour will want to put a woman in that position, making an all women shortlist. Thats not been confirmed this evening, we should not get ahead of ourselves. But certainly it is possibly a chance forJeremy Corbyn to look at potential options for deputy leader Going Forward that may prove less difficult than the time tom watson has at some point jessica, stay with us for the next few minutes. Boris johnson was onstage launching the conservativeElection Campaign. Uniting and leveling up our country, giving people opportunity across our country with better education, better infrastructure, and new technology. That is what this government is all about. Its about. Cheering. Its been a busy day all round. Heres borisjohnson leaving downing street, and heading to Buckingham Palace to see the queen and to tell her an election has been called. This marks the official start of the election period. Meanwhile, labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was campaigning in telford in the midlands. Hes promising a big investment in public services. And the lib dem leader, jo swinson, was in north london, pledging extra resources for Mental Health care. Its fair to say this hasnt been the smoothest start for the tories. Heres lbcs iain dale. Heres my list. Jacob rees mogg apologising after seeming to suggest victims of the grenfell fire lacked common sense. Tory mp andrew bridgen then defending him, and suggesting mr rees mogg would have made a better decision than the people in the tower or the fire brigade because hes clever. He has no apologise. The government refusing to release a report on russian interference in uk affairs including the last election. Now apologised. Despite the chair of the committe that produced it, a former tory mp, calling for the public to see it. The conservatives editing a video to misrepresent an interview with a labour politician and then refusing to apologise when what theyd done became clear. A conservative Party Parliamentary candidate having to apologise for a Facebook Post in which she said people in a tv show about receiving Welfare Benefits should be put down. And then six this today. Welsh secretary alun cairns has resigned over claims he knew about a former aides role in the sabotage of a rape trial. Its not going to plan. That last story was broken by bbc wales Political Editor, felicity evans. Back in april last year, there was a rape trial in which a former aide to mr cairns, a man called ross england, was a witness. Ross englands testimony ended up derailing that trial, and the judge accused him of deliberately sabotaging it. Eight months later in december last year, the welsh conservatives selected mr england to be a candidate in the Welsh Assembly elections in 2021 with the endorsement of mr cairns. When we were asking the welsh conservatives and mr cairns about what and when they knew about ross englands involvement in the collapse of the trial, theyd suggested they had found out about his involvement only very recently. Then we discovered an e mail that was sent to alun cairns by his special adviser in august of last year four months before his selection and endorsement by mr cairns, and indeed, the director of the welsh conservatives, richard mitchell, some details about that collapsed trial. So that is why alan cairns has decided to go today. Alun cairns. He says hes done nothing wrong, and he is confident an investigation will clear him. To be clear, the way in which mr england was accused of sabotaging that trial was by discussing the victims sexual history in his evidence despite the judge making it clear beforehand that that evidence was inadmissible. At the time, judge Stephen Hopkins said, why did you say that . Are you completely stupid . Heres the bbcs Political Editor laura kuenssberg. Weve looked back through the mists of political history, and we cannot find another example of a serving cabinet minister resigning on day one of a crucial Election Campaign. And it is absently not the backdrop that Boris Johnson and it is absently not the backdrop that borisjohnson wouldve hoped for. Let francesca back again. When the premise or was going up against this campaign launch, some of his supporters would admit some form of reset was necessary . I think certainly the conservative party will be trying to hit the reef reset button. Given the timing of things, as the day got under way where the Prime Minister was off to see the queen to trigger the start of the Election Campaign, then as he was taking to the steps of downing street to make his initial speech, just moments before that we learned that alun cairns was resigning. So that alun cairns was resigning. So that was not an ideal start for the Prime Minister and has been seen as perhaps overshadowing the day of the campaign launch. Looking at that lunch tonight in the west midlands, obviously Boris Johnson lunch tonight in the west midlands, obviously borisjohnson playing to a loyal crowd , obviously borisjohnson playing to a loyal crowd, and it had something of an american rally feel to it, didnt it . But he certainly did not seem to shake and buy it and will try to move on. In the conservative party might take some heart from the fact that it might take some heart from the fact thatitis might take some heart from the fact that it is at least early on in the campaign, and if you are going to have difficult news stories, then it is better to have them early on thin later on. Having said that, these elections are incredibly unprintable, who knows what may happen in terms of the many parties over the coming week. One thing to ask you about, here is whatjohn bercow has been saying today to the Foreign Press association in london. He told journalists he no longer had to remain impartial after stepping down from the chair after ten years. Mr bercow was accused by some brexit backing mps some brexiteers will be thinking and no surprise . John bercow is a controversial figure no surprise . John bercow is a controversialfigure in no surprise . John bercow is a controversial figure in the no surprise . John bercow is a controversialfigure in the house no surprise . John bercow is a controversial figure in the house of commons over the last few years, where he was residing over this very tense at times brexit debate, and seemed to take sides on parliament and making sure parliament was hurt, and making sure parliament was hurt, and stopping any idea of an over mighty executive. I think some brexiteers felt he was actually lacking in impartiality, handing powers to backbenchers in order to frustrate brexit. He would absolutely reject that, but i think his comments this evening will raise an eyebrow or two. And i think it is interesting because if you look at the man who has succeeded john bercow, i think he represents a very different prospect and was perhaps chosen for the fact that he had some different qualities tojohn bercow, perhaps seen as a quieter figure and one who will be less interventionist. Thank you jessica. I think he is one of the few people in the uk who has not let the public know what you think about brexit. The impeachment inquiry into donald trump is about to shift gears. Adam schiff heads the intelligence committee. He tells a stomach. And it will start with william taylor, the acting Us Ambassador to ukraine. We know hes voiced concerns about white house actions and in the past hour, his full testimony from two weeks ago has been made public. Its about 300 pages long. We get a lot more detail. Anthony zurcher has started sifting through it. He knew some of what bill taylor was going to say, but here you can see the actual questions and his responses to it. One of the things Gordon Sondland, the Us Ambassador, said yesterday was that it was presumed it was likely military aid was being conditioned on the ukraine opening up these investigations. Here you have bill taylor talking about how trump specifically told sondland for a Public Statement of this investigation. And that is important because it ties donald trump to sondland, who was talking about essentially a quid pro quo, exchanging military aid for the investigation. So if taylor can establish this time between the trump and this direction, it goes a long way towards showing trump was right in the middle of this demand for something that can benefit him politically. Essentially what a lot of these depositions were were screen tests for the people coming to testify, to see how they did, what they would say, what kind of questions prompted the most insightful answers. So now that theyve done all that, clearly bill taylor is someone they think and speak with authority. Hes a Career Foreign Service and the same with george kent. These are all Foreign Service people with a depth of knowledge about the ukraine, and i think that is why the democrats want to put them front and centre. Today, david hale has been testifying hes the highest ranking career diplomat in the us Foreign Service. But its also about who didnt show up. Rick perry, the energy secretary, ignored a congressional subpoena. He matters in this story because hes one of so called three amigos the other two being Gordon Sondland, Us Ambassador to the eu, and kurt volker, former Us Ambassador to nato. Witnesses said the three were behind Donald Trumps unofficial communications with ukraine, which in turn led to the phone call injuly in which donald trump asked the ukraininan president to begun investigate his political rival, joe biden. The allegation is military aid was withheld until that investigation began. Trump says hes done nothing wrong. Yesterday, we learnt Gordon Sondland had added to his evidence. Jon sopel explains in 60 seconds why this matters. This is a really Important Development in the impeachment inquiry. The eu ambassador, Gordon Sondland. Who is he . Well, he was a trump fundraiser who got appointed to the ambassadorship just because of his devotion to donald trump. Hes not a career diplomat. He has given additional evidence to the intelligence inquiry looking into this whole matter, which says in contradiction of what donald trump has maintained, that there was a quid pro quo. That military aid to ukraine from the us was being held up until such times as ukraine supplied a statement of Anti Corruption that would hurtjoe biden, Donald Trumps main democratic rival for the presidency next year, and his son, hunter, who was the director of a gas company in the ukraine. Now you can argue that none of this matters, that donald trump can do what he likes on Foreign Policy. Harder for him to declare now that there was no quid pro quo. Mr sondland claims trumps personal lawyer, rudi giuliani, was acting on trumps s instructions, and that donald trump insisted his lawyer be consulted on all ukrainian matters. His press secretary is having none of this. Heres cristina markos, the hill, journalist in washington. Shes also been looking through that 300 page testimony we talk about. Bill taylor, the acting ambassador to the ukraine, said his testimony was a clear understanding that donald trump was linking the aide to the ukraine with these investigations that he wanted to pursue into his political opponents, including former Vice President joe biden. So the democrats have said this is some of the most damning testimony theyve heard today, and thatis testimony theyve heard today, and that is why they want to bring bill taylor before the cameras, to make their public case for impeachment before the american public. But presumably the white house would say that what one persons clear understanding may be a misunderstanding for another, and that he never gave his instruction . That is what republicans are arguing with regards to bill taylors testimony, because they are saying this was his understanding due to conversations with officials who we re conversations with officials who were closer to trump and more involved in this shadow Foreign Policy agenda that we are seeing led by rudy giuliani, trumps personal lawyer. But democrats will say this is someone who is a career official who spent decades in the Foreign Service, so they think it will be ha rd to service, so they think it will be hard to question his credibility as they are pursuing with this impeachment inquiry so what can you help me understand why someone who has already given 300 pizza testimony needs to come back and talk about again . That sounds pretty comprehensive. It is, in a way the democrats have been using these closed door depositions over the last few weeks to test these witnesses behind closed doors before they put them before the cameras. As youll recall, back over the summer, democrats were very eager to bring the former counsel Robert Muller before these public hearings, before the cameras, as a way that they thought would help bring his report on the Russian Election interference to life, as they put it. But Robert Mullers testimony was a bit of a dud in washington because his testimony was halting, he frequently referred lawbreakers testimony was halting, he frequently referred lawbrea kers back testimony was halting, he frequently referred lawbreakers back to his report rather than spelling out for them what they wanted him to say for cameras. So by doing it this way, democrats are able to test drive these witnesses before they put them in front of the public, and they kno

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