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Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240713

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There will be spells of wind and rain at times but exactly where the wettest weather will be remains up in the airat times. It weather will be remains up in the air at times. It will, however, remain quiet chilly. Hello, this is bbc news with carrie gracie. We will be taking a look at tomorrow mornings papers in a moment, with Giles Kenningham and maya goodfellow. First the headlines borisjohnson has launched his pa rtys Election Campaign, saying his brexit deal delivered everything he campaigned for. Tom watson has announced his resignation as labours deputy leader and says he wont be seeking re election as an mp. High courtjudges have ruled that a police ban on Extinction Rebellion protests in london last month was unlawful. And several people have been injured after the ceiling collapsed during a show at the piccadilly theatre in londons west end. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the political commentator Giles Kenningham and and the Political Writer and academic maya goodfellow. Many of tomorrows front pages are already in. The metro leads the way with a picture of the Prime Minister, who launched his Party Campaign in the general election race. The paper calls it a tricky first day for boris johnson. The telegraph describes the conservative launch and headlines boris gets his bounce back, but leads with the story about labours deputy leader standing down as an mp. The guardian reports on tom watsons departure from labour and discusses the direction of the party under Jeremy Corbyns leadership. The times agrees and claims mr watson clashed withJeremy Corbyn on anti semitism, brexit and the direction of the party. Also leading on labour but on a different angle is the mirror, who focus on the partys pledge to pump £150 billion into regions in the north of england. And the sun captures the moment arsenal footballer Sead Kolasinac prepares to fend off two moped thugs as one threatens to stab him in the street in north west london. Lets see what our reviewers make of it all. To start us off with the front page of the guardian. This is the fact that tom watson is stepping down as an mp. He has been an mpforwest stepping down as an mp. He has been an mp for West Bromwich east since 2001. And really there has been an exchange of letters that have been publicised on twitter between himself and Jeremy Corbyn, him saying that this is personal, it is not medical. Tom watson is also someone not medical. Tom watson is also someone who has a book coming out in the new year, so i imagine he will spend some time publicising that, which i think is to do with his weight loss. He will be campaigning around sugar companies, doing things about remission for people with type 2 diabetes. And so i think while tom watson is standing down as deputy leader, standing down as mp, he is not going to be going anywhere in terms of british politics. Giles, what do you make of this story . M is interesting in terms of what the exchange of letters doesnt say as opposed to what it does say. It is very notable that tom watson doesnt say he wishes to see Jeremy Corbyn in numberten. I do say he wishes to see Jeremy Corbyn in number ten. I do think tom watson has in recent years become somewhat ofa has in recent years become somewhat of a tainted political figure. He was heavily embroiled in the fake vip scandal where he piled pressure on detectives and never showed any humility afterwards when it was found out he was completely on the wrong side of the argument and there was a sense this was always going to dog him. In the political dynamics are interesting here. The tories we re are interesting here. The tories were looking to go after tom watsons seipt, a slight majority in a heavy brexit part of the country, he was not liked by leadership, and they thought they could get it. Now they thought they could get it. Now the seat is up for grabs. There is the seat is up for grabs. There is the famous political expression, do not interrupt your opponents while they are making a mistake. The tories have had a very rocky 24 hours and they will be jumping for ivy hours and they will be jumping for joy at this news, because the focus is back on internal machinations and splits in the party. Which in a way is the gloss the daily mail puts on it. Labours election calamity, they are calling it. Strong language. It. Labours election calamity, they are calling it. Strong languagem is rather unsurprising coming from the daily mail, given their political positioning. I think they are making a little bit more of this than exists in the moment. We will see how this story unfolds, but as it stands now it doesnt really read asa it stands now it doesnt really read as a calamity. I think they want to spin it like this because there have been some departures from both parties. There have been slightly rocky moments in the sense of why people are leaving. We have had people are leaving. We have had people criticising the conservatives and the direction they are going under boris johnson. I and the direction they are going under borisjohnson. I think it is perhaps overstated to say that this isa perhaps overstated to say that this is a calamity at this stage given the tone of the two letters between Jeremy Corbyn and tom watson. We will see what happens, but right now it doesnt look that way. It becomes a calamity if tom watson does that kiss and tell sit down broadcast interview which keeps the story going where he lays bare the fractious relationship he had with Jeremy Corbyn, the fact they didnt get on, the fact they were on opposite ends of the party. So far they are wishing each other happy gardening tips, and this line, Jeremy Corbyn was rocked by the resignation of his deputy, is that not right . I thought he was relieved. It is hardly ideal in the midst of a general Election Campaign for your deputy to resign. So it has knocked a labour of course. I think longer term for the campaign it strengthens his grip on the party. Having said that, if labour wants to bea having said that, if labour wants to be a broad church, watson represented that broad church. This signifies even more of a lurch to the left. I think what is actually happening here is to say that this is bad for labour, i think what tom watson is saying in that letter is i am going to continue to be committed to the labour cause and campaigning for a labour government. And so i think it is kind of overstating where it is at the moment. And if we look at the selections that have been conducted by the labour party, it is still that broad church vibe going on. Suggesting thatJeremy Corbyn as leader has a grip on the party, he was elected twice by party members. Looking at the daily mirror, we have the kind of spin that labour themselves might want to have on today. You were talking about the tribal nature of different papers, well, this one, power to the north, and the irreversible shift of institutions and cash away from london. This is the daily mirror, so it is perhaps not surprising this is the headline story they are leading with, and i think this is interesting as someone who grew up in newcastle in the north east, i know that the north generally and the north east in particular has been historically underfunded, has been historically underfunded, has been historically underfunded, has been historically ignored. So we will see where this goes in terms of the policy substance. But it is a powerful message in terms of power to the north. We have heard politicians saying across the spectrum for some time now, talking about northern powerhouses, regional investment, and some of the highest Child Poverty rates outside Central London are in the north east. So these are areas that are often neglected in terms of investment. So we will see where this goes. And in terms of election arithmetic, there are some necessary votes to appeal to in the north. Exactly, there are some hard core leave labour seeds in the north which they will be worried about losing to the brexit party and the tories. You can see the politics at play here. Making the wider point, all politicians talk about levelling up and rebalancing the economies, a recognition by both sides they have to get a majority and be a one nation party. You say both parties, lets look at the other lot, then. Giles, after a day of dead cats, johnson gets his bounce back. Dead cat bounce and, what are his cats . It is this whole analogy that after you have a scandal you put a dead cat on the table, and your opponents spend the whole time clearing that up as opposed to attacking you. The tories have had a 24 hour is with the resignation of alun cairns, the welsh secretary. Is that then putting dead cats on their own table . Two i think there have been a series of problems. The challenge now is to seize the initiative back. The slogan is get the exit done, and people will be sick of hearing it, but they see it as a clear dividing line between labour and the tories. I think there is a wider point within this whole campaign. We know the electorate is incredibly volatile here, and people saying theresa may didnt get a majority in 2017. The difference this time is borisjohnson is a very good campaigner. This line that he gets his bounce back, were you impressed . Did you think it was a bouncy speech in birmingham . I think it was good, and you look at the objects, why is he doing it at birmingham, the West Midlands . That is the biggest swing district. The tories have to make inroads in those areas. He still has the x factor whereby he can run a much more spontaneous campaign than a lot of politicians can and be a lot more free flowing, doesnt have to always stay on message, and the public still like him in a way that other politicians havent got. They will be looking to really leverage and matched that out. The metro have this interesting photo which takes us this interesting photo which takes us back to, you know. I am not going to call it fake news, but it is odd. It is a misunderstanding of what was really going on. It is kind of strange. I think borisjohnson and the conservatives wouldnt mind this kind of comparison, the comparison between johnson and churchill, but this image was from his speech today outside downing street, when i believe that the number two he was gesturing in reference to two referendums. M wasnt the victory gesture. |j reference to two referendums. M wasnt the victory gesture. I think thatis wasnt the victory gesture. I think that is not quite accurate, and what we will see in this campaign is attem pts we will see in this campaign is atte m pts by we will see in this campaign is attempts by a lot of outlets to hold politicians to account with Fact Checking. We have seen this from a number of different channels, including the bbc, of Fact Checking some of the things borisjohnson said in todays speech, as well as other political parties. Is it really matching reality, the past nine years . It is whether people access that kind of news, and whether it cuts through. Because i think this kind of Fact Checking is incredibly important when we have, you know, parties using things like social media to get their messages through. How accurate are those m essa 9 es through. How accurate are those messages and what are the consequences for spreading things that may not actually be that accurate . And picking up on one of the things that maya was saying, one of the dead cats they were struggling with today is the question of the keir starmer video, which relates back to that question of fa ct which relates back to that question of Fact Checking. Is this actually the video always the video doctored . A big row over that today. There are two points, as opposed. They will be annoyed by that but it did get an argument going about the fact that labour have fundamentally incoherent position on brexit. There is a wider point about fake news during the election. The media is becoming more and more fragmented, these papers are in terminal decline, broadcasters as well, people are getting their news from a multitude of sources, so what is being done to regulate that . What is the Fact Checking going on and i dont think in this country we have a trip on it at all. In germany, you have a syste m at all. In germany, you have a system where if you have fake news on your website you are faced with a 40 million fine if you dont take it down within 24 hours, and i do think we need more stringent measures. Going back to the front page of the metro, i take your point that he was referring to referenda rather than doing a Winston Churchill victory sign. But Winston Churchill victory sign. But Winston Churchill is his hero. We are going to hear more churchillian language and rhetoric. Yes, i mean, ithink this is probably a comparison that johnson quite likes, it is not one that he would shy away from it anyway. And there is kind of bombastic rhetoric that he quite likes to use. And so this idea of get done is going to be the big strapline for this conservative campaign. It is a bit simplistic in terms of what is going to happen nextin terms of what is going to happen next in the country, but also the fa ct next in the country, but also the fact that we are not just electing next in the country, but also the fact that we are notjust electing a government to deal with brexit, but for the next five years, potentially, if there is another election next year. So i think this point about Fact Checking on the things that politicians are saying, they will come under scrutiny for some of the claims they are making around universal credit. We saw today the Advertising Standards Authority say that the government had put out ads about universal credit that made unsubstantiated claims and there has been this issue of the 200,000 homes they promised in 2015 that never materialised in according to the National Audit office. So there are a number of insta nces office. So there are a number of instances of politicians making claims about things they have done i think they are going to do. Whether that matches up with reality, we can to see that under a microscope in this Election Campaign. Have you two got the politics out of your systems . Two got the politics out of your syste ms . If two got the politics out of your systems . If you have, were going to move on. Yes . Yes. All right. The times has an interesting tale about sick days. It is slightly counterintuitive. We hear so much about snowflake millennials, but the fa cts about snowflake millennials, but the facts seem to contradict it. Absence rates have halved based on sick days. And i think it may also be a reflection of the changing nature of the economy. We have more people on flexible hours, we have the gig economy, more people feel like they are forced to take that time off. They are working in different ways. So yes, we hear a lot about snowflakes, millennials, buti suspect it might not be quite as straightforward as that. You are making it sound like quite. A story about people who just kind of cant afford to be ill, basically. Story about people who just kind of cant afford to be ill, basicallylj dont cant afford to be ill, basically. dont want to say sinister, but i am saying the nature of work has changed. If you are working in more ofa changed. If you are working in more of a flexible way, obviously you have less of a safeguard. That is just the nature of working that way. And it may be that, you know, people arent taking the time off. Air at times. It will, however, remain quiet chilly. Looking three, four paragraphs down the story, they are quoting an Occupational Health study saying there is a greater willingness among employers to support staff with blooms, good news story. employers to support staff with blooms, good news story. I guess its hard say exactly what is causing this, in part this idea that there is support for some staff in terms of their Health Issues or struggles they might be having at work. Further down the story, sorry to bring it back to a potential negative, but also quoting someone who is saying, a policy adviser who is sagging, one of the problem series it doesnt make sense because we hear a lot about work related stress, that being on the increase and this may be to do with post financial crash that people are still going to work when they are unwell, wishing themselves to the limit. This thing is that giles is talking about which is something slightly different in terms of peoples right. There is another thing about people feeling they have to go to work. You talk about employees being more sympathetic. In the realm of mental health, that stigma has been removed. People are more open and willing to understand. That may be part of it. They also no

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