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BBCNEWS The Papers July 13, 2024

On the 14th ofjune. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are uk correspondent for france 2a and the president of the Foreign Press association, Benedicte Paviot and im alsojoined youre impressed. I think bonnie has just introduced yourself there. By new european columnist and playwright bonnie greer. Many of tomorrows front pages are already in and almost all focus on the London Bridge attack. The observer leads on borisjohnson announcing that those convicted of the most serious terror offences should never be released from prison. The telegraph says the Prime Minister will order a review of dozens of violent terrorists released from prison in recent years. The sunday mirror has an exclusive picture of usman khan buying fast food shortly before the attack. The sunday people leads on a tribute to one of the victims, jack merritt, from his father who describes him as a beautiful spirit who took the side of the underdog. The sunday express claims thejustice system is playing russian roulette with peoples lives by allowing terrorists back on the streets. The independent has an interview with former top prosecutor nazir afzal, who says he warned borisjohnson about releasing terrorists who had not been deradicalised. And the mail on sunday is alleging further impropriety from Prince Andrew in his role as a British Trade envoy. Buckingham palace has defended him saying he was representing british companies, not individuals. Those are front pages. Whats start off with our chat. You have finished introducing yourselves . off with our chat. You have finished introducing yourselves . I was caught off guard by this. Lets start with the front of the telegraph. Kick us off. I want to pay should be to this young manjack merritt. This was a bridge builder, simple as that. He had an incredible education. He could have been and done anything but he chose to try and bring people together. And he chose to try to help people who couldnt help themselves. He was a great human being and weve lost a great human being and weve lost a great human being and weve lost a great human being. Thats the first thing id like to say. And condolences to his family and friends. He is a great person. A great person, 25 year old. The second thing i would like to say is yeah i am very angry because. The conservatives particularly Boris Johnson actress of some sort of other group of people were in charge of the home office, in charge of the terrorism programme, in charge of the prison service, in charge of the police. There was some other party. It was them. It was the conservatives. They cut the prison service, they messed around with all these different programmes and now suddenly boris chose off some kind of top hat and tries to tell us in some way that he is going to do this, he is going to do that. They have been in charge since 2015. Why is it this way . And one newspaper and we will get to it, boris tries to talk about 2008. Somehow 2008 was responsible for this. I dont think the british electorate should wear this, i dont think they should take it. They should hold the conservatives to account. This boy, this young man, this young man tried to do his best and probably try to do his best because the Rehabilitation Services were caught because there were things that were not in place. Thats what he was trying to do. Ijust want to say that and i hope people are not fooled by whatever Boris Johnson that and i hope people are not fooled by whatever borisjohnson is saying. This is on their watch. They are responsible for this. Two of course this young man must be. I cant imagine what his families going through. This is extraordinary. And it was interesting and important to hear from new Scotland Yard this evening saying that they believe that nobody else is involved with this. We then got that claim of responsibility which is a classic from the so called Islamic State but of course a young man who had everything before him and who was trying to make a positive difference, and suddenly this 28 year old man who had been convicted of terrorism. Whats a member he was accused and found guilty of wanting to with others bow up guilty of wanting to with others bow up the london stock exchange, bill kill up the london stock exchange, bill kill Boris Johnson up the london stock exchange, bill kill borisjohnson by the way which is not mentioned as much, and clearly had links with alqaeda. It really poses for all of our countries, i refer to britain, france and others notjust returnees from syria and iraq but people who get infected with this kind of ideology actually fire the internet and small groups. And it is such ace hard thing for the intelligence services. We do live in democracies and it is the most cctv country so we can have these pictures of usman khan buying chicken. I dont know how interesting that is to come in three days before. The problem of deRadicalisation Programmes, the money, the time this takes. This is a paper review so the sunday telegraph talks about fury and this comes in the middle of a general election. Asap general election wanted by two borisjohnson before he became Prime Minister vying for the leadership. And what the telegraph on the front pages talking about is that he is very angry over 73 70 about is that he is very angry over 73 70 free terrace and hes going foran 73 70 free terrace and hes going for an immediate review of dozens are violent terrorists in recent years and apparently, as of monday i think it is, the ministry ofjustice is launching an urgent inquiry to examine the licence conditions of up to 70 of them. What is interesting is neil bass who said that it would seem a is neil bass who said that it would seem a decision investigation had all the licences. It seems that despite the electronic tag that monitoring was being followed. West turned to the independent. As we look at the front page of the independent. This goes with warnings that have been issued over the risks of freeing terrorists. Boris johnson is saying that he is going to get tougher. It is not something the electorate are going to want to hear . May be in this country. Where i come from, if you have actually been running the show and you turn around and say im going to get tougher, the electorate says youre out the door because you are supposed to have done this before. Its too late. This prosecutor, this former prosecutor who was all over twitter saying basically he had a kind of a conversation with Boris Johnson, i think is there passing through, and his was. We need money. Thats what we need to have. We need this to be funded. We need the funding to go up and we know in 2000, whenever the siebel got into office, the first thing they decide to do was austerity, cut they decide to do was austerity, cut the numbers, he warned that there was going to be a problem, a big problem in the Radicalisation Programme and Boris Johnson problem in the Radicalisation Programme and borisjohnson was quoted saying basically lets talk about Something Else possible. He was not the Prime Minister then, he wasnt in charge of anything, but this was his party and if he is dissing anybody, he is dissing the tory home secretary of his party. Thats who he is guessing. Tory home secretary of his party. Thats who he is guessinglj tory home secretary of his party. Thats who he is guessing. I think there is a feeling across the country and there has been a long time in the and that people are seem to be found guilty of serious offences, phone ones, terrorists, and then they get these custodial sentences and we hear things about indeterminate sentences etc. And that they are out in no time and to release somebody who is really so. They are need to be checks it seems that the parole board. You cant do it unless you have programmes where people understand that radicalisation is a religion. It is not a political act. Its not something people decide to do. This isa something people decide to do. This is a religious gesture and we have to deradicalise people. It takes a long time to do this. Is a distorted form of religion. I had a look at the prosecutors twitter feed and as we turn to the sunday express because it does link, he talks about focusing on numbers and not people and paying tribute to. To the family who lost their son. And he also talked about we need to look at your sentences and unnecessary detention. As that not a message . Say again, sorry. We have to conan sentences, we have say again, sorry. We have to conan sentences, we have unnecessary detention. Sentences, we have unnecessary detention. Your conan sentences. The front dissing softjustice is playing russian roulette with our wives. Same as the american. The criminal justice wives. Same as the american. The criminaljustice prison sentences in this country have to be about rehabilitation because there is no other remedy. If we dont rehabilitate people in the long term or the short term, we are going to have a problem. Because there is no remedy to it up to anything else. We dont want any other remedy. We have got to rehabilitate people, that is money, education. And this jack merritt, this young man and his organisation as a leader, he was trying to do something in that area. He was trying to do something. He was trying to plug a gap. He was trying to build a bridge. He was trying to build a bridge. He was trying to build a bridge. He was trying to do that and that bridge was taken out from underneath him. Carrying on with us but we will turn to the front of. We would turn to the front of the observer as you had your there. It is clearly in the ce ntre your there. It is clearly in the centre of the election campaign. And i believe that Jeremy Corbyn centre of the election campaign. And i believe thatJeremy Corbyn in another paper is going to be making another paper is going to be making a speech actually on sunday appearing to suggest to quote the sunday express that Donald Trumps unconditional i am quoting support for the israel a far right has helped fuel the terrorist on british streets and he will say again quoting a book for far too long our countrys leaders have made the wrong calls on our security. The blame lies with the terrorists, theirfunders, and blame lies with the terrorists, their funders, and recruiters. Blame lies with the terrorists, their funders, and recruiters. Is it right to make that an issue at this time when this attack has happened . On the front of the observer does say that labour are actually criticising tony blair and Jeremy Corbyn is a saying that i told you 16 years ago about this. It is really mature in a very different way, in a similar way about the nhs and social care. Its not about throwing numbers. Theres a famous saying of a french politician that set up a politicians promises if youre silly enough and says to believe them. I heard silly enough and says to believe them. I heard just silly enough and says to believe them. I heardjust summoning people say to me from all walks of life you know politicians lie. And i find myself bizarrely in the position as an International Journalist travelling and meeting all kinds of people which is the way all kinds of people which is the way a journal should be in touch, normal stuff with real people. This is not a good situation to be and where there is that kind of scepticism. I think it is true about custodial sentences. If somebody is found guilty on the one hand of something very serious, they need to do the time. But equally, i do hear what you are saying and there does need to be rehabilitation programmes. One of the things in france for example far from perfect, of the things in france for example farfrom perfect, nothing is perfect, but there are programmes for example in prison of ensuring that they are in separate cells saba you dont want to use france as an example in this. You dont want to use france as an example for this. Rebuild tatian is another option because we dont do anything else with people who are convicted. They have to be rehabilitated. Rehabilitation. You can use rehabilitation. You can use rehabilitation and call it whatever you like but we have to be rehabilitated. What we do need in this campaign are we tell politicians who know what people talk about at the table, not these theories. Retail politician, someone who knows their talk but at the table where they talk about in the pub, whether we talk about this kid, this boy, and how do we make sure this boy, and how do we make sure this does not happen again in a prison system which keeps people in prison . And the conservatives have failed and its as simple as that. If the tories get back in at mr johnson in the sunday express and a few says he pledges that urgent changes the law will be made in the new year if he wins majority. We can discuss in our next addition at 11 30pm whether sentence means a sentence. We will talk about that. Hope you can join sentence. We will talk about that. Hope you canjoin us sentence. We will talk about that. Hope you can join us for that. Benedicte and bonnie will be back at 11. 30 for another look at the papers. Next on bbc news, its time for click. I lost my sight seven years ago. Navigating the world can feel like a huge challenge, even with my gorgeous guide dog, olga. I usually use my guide dog willow to get around, but today, were trying out a new device the wewalk smart cane. I think olgas a bit confused with the cane. Laughs. The device has a round sensor to detect obstacles. Ive paired it with my smartphone and airpods to send me directions. So my airpods pick up the information from my phone and the Navigation System reads it out to me. When we got there it said, starbucks now on your right. And, yeah. By then we could smell it anyway, couldnt we . When i was using the cane, it was always vibrating. Thats buzzing a lot. Is it . Yep. Yeah, the buzzing got really quick. So i knew that i was in front of something that was quite a large obstacle. This might be an improvement for some cane users, but personally, ive found the feedback slightly overwhelming. I could imagine it could probably get quite difficult to detect whats important and whats not important. I was excited to show maisy an app named microsoft soundscape that uses sd sound to point you in the right direction. You can hear the sound as if its around you and its like youre in the software almost. Phone facing southwest along world piazza. When youre tuned in to the app, it will name nearby shops and restaurants. It even highlights whats on the pavement. Is there bike parking in front of us . One useful tool is the ability to set an audio beacon, say, if you want to find your local supermarket. 65 metres west. Its making this tip tap sound. Tapping sounds help guide us in the right direction, although we did manage to walk past the shop door. I think you dont quite believe that its to the right of you. At least we had our guide dogs to help us find the entrance. At home, some of the simplest tech can actually be the most useful. Beeping. But big tech companies, like apple, google and amazon are also trying to make their Technology Better for people like me. Most of the time, i use my smartphone and apple watch. Its so great that it can connect to my apple tv and you can get it to play your favourite moments. Lots of smart speakers now have audiobook services. One new and particularly unusual audiobook is called unseen. Its the first ever audio comic book. When you hear this sound. That is so cool. Cover the word unseen in bold letters. Oh, amazing no one ever does that thats the typeface. Describing the pictures and each panel, which is the big part of comic books. I cant wait for unseens creator, chad allen, to release the next segment. I dont know who the hell you are. Imitates i do not know who the hell you are i was also excited to try a new device from Bristol Braille technology. This device that i have in front of me is called the canute and this is the very first ever several line braille display. It sounds like a typewriter using buttons at the base of the device, you can upload books, pdfs and documents. The multi line layout is great forfeeling diagrams. Its an easier and quicker way to read. Thats nice that you can use Something Like this and not have audio on, constantly all the time. Are we reading braille . Yes. I was even more impressed with the next device we tried a pair of orcam smartglasses. These use a camera and Artificial Intelligence to read the text around you. And you can use touch, voice and gesture commands to change its settings. So what are you doing, maisie . So i have a magazine and if i point ata line. Reads i always say that there are. Its reading it we surprised maisie with a book from one of her favourite authors. Kaitlyn dunnett. Cool the orcam tells you the time. The time is 3 29pm. Yay and can name who is standing in front of you. Of course, i wanted to see if we could get it to recognise maisie. The device does this by remembering the unique points of a persons face, a bit like a map. Maisie. Oh, yeah high five, blind girl high five. We also tried a new feature the ability to scan food product barcodes. This was a hit. Tomato cup a soup remember to hold your item about a foot above the counter top. Alexa, what am i holding . I was really excited to test the new amazon echo show feature. You hold a food item in front of the screen camera and move it around until the device tells you what the item is. It was difficult knowing whether the item was centre screen, and this threw up some less than accu rate results. Show me another side. It looks like vanilla coca cola. Oh, my god. Thats cool. I have done that so many times like, ive picked up cherry diet coke by mistake. Yeah we also have been told that that wasnt vanilla coca cola and just regular coca cola. You would have to really nail getting your snapshots correct to find this useful. It was so great to try all the technology throughout the day. The wider the choice of tech, the better for everyone. Not everything today was a complete success, but the impact that blind tech can have continues to surprise me. Im really excited

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