Thats not the same as staying in the eu. Its going to be a very dystopian five years if we are going over language and terminology, but i would just like to point out that crashing out of, and defaulting the Daily Telegraph is saying this default into wto arrangements for the eu is commonly understood to be leaving with a no deal. That is what the last two years has commonly understood to mean crashing out without a deal. We cant argue about the language for the next five yea rs, about the language for the next five years, thats going to be nuts. Years, thats going to be nutsm has nothing to do with linkage, it has nothing to do with linkage, it has nothing to do with definition and reality, which is that we have left on the terms of withdrawal agreement, if we then dont get a trade deal coming out week, europe doesnt get a trade deal, then its wto. But i have to say, that we should not come of this will be the remainders last fling, want to . As they finally agree that possibly, they finally agree that possibly, they may have lost. But at the end of the day. Remain as would like a deal, obviously. We cant argue about this, but actually come in germany badly needs actually come in germany badly needs a deal with this country. France badly needs a deal with this country. It will happen. Just to point Something Else out, because this is a paper if you come i thought it was interesting that the Daily Telegraph has had its also learned that borisjohnson intends to shake up the house of lords by pointing brexit supporting peers to help shape britains trade policy. It hadnt come across that before. No, i hadnt. Ithink that it hadnt come across that before. No, i hadnt. I think that was really interesting. That does jump out. He intends to appoint brexit sporting peers that he will be calling so called working peers, so it does look like he does want to stack the process, but another of this, which we were talking about earlier, wasjust in this, which we were talking about earlier, was just in terms of the logistics, the timing of presenting this withdrawal bill on friday, and then having Parliament Going into recess the next week. So there will be a two week break, presumably, before it. U nless presumably, before it. Unless they are called back early. I wouldve thought, doing this properly, and not trying to rush it through, they rushed the surrender bill through to become an act in hours. But to do it properly. It wasnt called that, just saying. To do it properly. To do it properly, we are talking about, i would say, minimum of a week. And that gets, the lords want to argue with it, because its in the manifesto, therefore, the government of the day gets its day, and rightly. But it will be about a week. So quite how he is going to do this by friday night, i find a little strange. But if they want to say on the weekends, we will go, its interesting. What about Christmas Day . Will you go . Our country is a bit more in important than christmas, isnt it . I would actually say that if you would stack it with working peers, this isnt. Would stack it with working peers, this isnt. No would stack it with working peers, this isnt. No this would stack it with working peers, this isnt. No this isnt what i said, this is what the telegraph said. 0k, putting brexit supporting peers in the lords is not stacking it. Well, normally. What is it then, just out of interest, what is that . Normally, just be patient. Im very patient. Normally, a Prime Minister of any party would stack the lords to get something through. This has got nothing to do with that. This is to do with getting working peers, people who will actually not do other jobs, people who will actually not do otherjobs, give full time attention and work to a subject, and to move into the lords, so they have the power to effectively work in the government and. Thats terrific, but why are they all brexit supporting in that case . Because you are trying very ha rd in that case . Because you are trying very hard to get this through. So it is stacked . No, because its not about voting. No. If you know about your subject. Make no, i understand what youre saying. It will be there time for free for their country. Absolutely, so why do they have to beat. This isnt a vote. They are not needed for that. Hes already won such a majority. This is about getting work done. Theyve got to be brexit people, because its about brexit. 0k, brexit people, because its about brexit. Ok, lets leave it there. We have already touched on the independent command i dont think we need to rehearse, we can look at the front page, but dont think we need to rehearse this. Its all around the language of what no deal means, which rachel and digby i think were agreed to disagree about. Shall we move on to the labour party and the i . The wrath of con it, rather interesting headline, sadiq khan, the mayor of london, who is a p pa re ntly the mayor of london, who is apparently according to the eye joining labour of ludicrous leadership explanation for election debate. Defeat. Rachel, whatever else you can say about the labour defeat, the rift seems to be widening, and they are being played out in public, arent they . Thats not a good look. Its not a great look to have these divisions all play out in public. Absolutely not. But its also not at all surprising. It was a really bad defeat, and people are really upset, and also angry about that. You know, i would expect that as well. Sadiq khan, as you say, he is saying that to some of the issues that account for that defeat were the leadership, that it wasnt a credible Prime Ministerial candidate, and also that the explanation for the brexit, the defeats, which is basically saying that labour got caught on the horns of the brexit dilemma. He is saying that thats not a palatable explanation either, although, i suspect that that is one of the big reasons that accounted for such a dramatic loss. But there is going to be an inquest, i do think its important to have an inquest to find out exactly what mistakes were made, so out exactly what mistakes were made, so that they dont happen going forward. Digby, i do want your take on this, but can we move on to the guardianjust to on this, but can we move on to the guardian just to show that from page . Because its interesting, this isa page . Because its interesting, this is a focus on who might succeed jeremy corbyn, when he does decide to stand down, and weve got a picture of two of them, possible contenders, rebecca long bailey on the left there, and angela rayner, and according to the cardinal guardian, the shadow secretary, angela raynor, is going to clear the way for herfriend angela raynor, is going to clear the way for her friend rebecca long bailey to run it, but again, this strikes at the heart of who he is going to replace jeremy strikes at the heart of who he is going to replacejeremy corbyn. Strikes at the heart of who he is going to replace jeremy corbyn. |j think these two, the i am the guardian are actually, there is a Common Thread here. Which is if labour dont understand the mistake they made, which is the average brit is not actually a marxist, hes not actually anti business, and is not unpatriotic, and so youve got to go to the doorstep and persuade people that your policies are not somewhere so that your policies are not somewhere so far over there that your policies are not somewhere so faroverthere far that your policies are not somewhere so far over there far left. Youve got to be somewhere in the centre. The country is a bit centreleft, sometimes centre rate, the country is not an extreme country, and therefore, what really lost it for labour was this metropolitan elite in london have been completely change the offering of the labour party, that had no residence with the midlands and the north. And if they kid themselves either that this was about brexit, and by the way, if it was, they only have three years to try to sort their policy, so what does that say for competence in government . But also if they had just gone on with rebecca long bailey and angela rayner, two corbyn like went back candidates, they are women, it would be nice to get more women, it would be nice to get more women in high profile jobs in parliament, but nevertheless, if youre going to put corbyn straight into the position and keep going him in five years time, you will get another kick in, because thats not where the country is. We met i know you want to move on, but i do need to push back on that slightly. You will notjust to to push back on that slightly. You will not just to point out that the thing about the labour policies are that that they are incredibly popular. There overwhelming public support. Biggest landslide defeat since 1939. The party failed to persuade the public of their capacity to implement them. He makes with the public solids . No, im not saying its theirfault, public solids . No, im not saying its their fault, its a failure of the labour party, however, when you look at the policies, im sorry, i dont make up these statistics. They are overwhelmingly popular, re nationalization, higher tax for the highest earners, these are not extreme politics. 100 compulsory purchase topic extreme politics. 10096 compulsory purchase topic let 100 compulsory purchase topic let mejust finish. They play centreleft and quite moderate and the rest of europe, and they are overwhelmingly popular in this country, even according to polls run by right wing think tanks, so polls run by right wing think tanks, so there is no disputing that. Limit 10 of every private company in britain is something that europe does . I dont think so. 0k, does . I dont think so. Ok, lets finally finish on something, well, you may not agree actually on this, i think its a slightly unusual take by the daily mail, we dont expect rails to be. This is the archbishop of canterburyjustin be. This is the archbishop of Canterbury Justin welby who be. This is the archbishop of Canterburyjustin Welby who has given an interview to the big issue, and hasnt actually specifically named any royals, has he . But the daily mail is somewhat sensationalized. Id like to thank you, actually, for this, because one of the problems of doing the papers is that we only get the front pages. And of course, you cant. It the front pages. And of course, you cant. It says the front pages. And of course, you cant. It says turn to page five. So when we were working this out tonight, we asked you, could we have page five please. Bless you, you delivered. On more than one page as well, thats terrific. Are not being patronizing about it, this is so important, because it gives the whole thing into context. He gave this interview, he talked a lot about homelessness, he talked a lot about homelessness, he talked a lot about social issues, generally, he talked about the fact that you know, he had been choosing the pope last week, and had a chat about football in argentina. Of which he said knew nothing. And it was a general interview, and in the middle of it, he talked about how what we put these rails on pedestals, my words, we expect them to be other than all of us, and we dont forgive them when they fail. We dont have much time, but it was also a response to a question he was asked, wasnt it . We do need to point out that he was asked by the big issue, he was asked explicitly about the duke of york scandal, he was asked following the prince and her scandal, do you think of for oilfamily prince and her scandal, do you think of for oil family have to adhere to a higher moral code than the rest of society, and it was in the context that he said that we shouldnt ask them to be superhumans, but theres a big gap between being superhuman saints and the kind of behaviour that epstein was accused of. We will leave it there for now. We can all go away and preached peace and love for a bit. Because that is it. Not a bad thing. Thats it for the papers this hour. Digby and rachel will be back at 11 30pm for another look at the papers. And dont forget, you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. Its all there for you seven days a week at bbc. Co. Uk papers. And if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. Thank you both. Goodbye. Might have had a bit of snow across scotla nd might have had a bit of snow across scotland in the last few hours, pretty nippy as well, temperatures have been down to minus six degrees, but here is the headline for the week ahead. Very different. Its mild, wet, and windy. Not all the time, in fact, mild, wet, and windy. Not all the time, infact, by mild, wet, and windy. Not all the time, in fact, by around about thursday, temperatures could be in the low teens across the south of the low teens across the south of the uk, not very festive. So the clouds across not just the uk, not very festive. So the clouds across notjust the uk but many parts of europe and incidentally, its a very very mild further east across europe as well, temperatures in some areas or 10 degrees above the average for the time of year. So just a Little Pocket of cold air across scotland and northern england. Temperatures here are around freezing or so by the early hours of tuesday morning. You can see the blue colours there indicating the air frost, but different there in the southeast and east anglia around 5 7d. We have a cloud, the drizzle, the weather frontier, slightly warmer air. Tomorrow stays damp, and probably quite cloudy across much of the southeast, may be the midlands as well, but many of us will get some decent weather tomorrow, that will be sunshine for sure. But a fairly nippy day across the northern half of the uk around 5 degrees, and thats about as cold as its going to get, because after that, its going to get quite a bit milder. But tuesday nights, into wednesday, we are in between weather systems. So when zips away towards the east, this next one is rushing in, but before that one reaches us, early on wednesday, we are expecting some thick fog, particularly around the midlands, may be northern england, not exclusively, but this will likely be the focal point, it could be very thick indeed. So travel disruption. Sunshine is welcome and you cant miss this, this is the next, i will move out of the way, big low pressure here, that will basically race across the uk wednesday into thursday. This means Gale Force Winds around some of these western coasts, with could be gusting around 70 mph, not unusual for the time of year, but it will be pretty rough, and look at that rainbow, sweep across the uk through wednesday and into thursday as well, maybe some wintry nest there across the scottish mountain. So really blustery thursday on the way to, and thursday into friday, what we is this big low trauma quite often when we this big low trauma quite often when we get these big lows, these really large ones, they scoop up warmth from the south. I will say warmth loosely around this time of year, but its relatively warm air coming our way, so but its relatively warm air coming our way, so that does mean thursday, friday, we could see temperatures around 13 celsius. Really unsettled picture, will be bad all the time, there will be sunshine as well, but certainly no chance of any snow across the uk, widely, that is, in a short time. Bye bye. This is bbc news the headlines at 11 00 in the past hour boeing says its suspending the production of its 737 max aircraft which had been the subject of intense scrutiny following two fatal crashes. Borisjohnson welcomes his new conservative mps to westminster, and says they must repay the trust of former labour voters who backed them last week. As some of the new intake made their way to westminster, a sense of excitement and trepidation about what lies ahead. Its a bit surreal. Here we are, we can get these things done. The last time you remember these sort of things its