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Island in shetland. War in ukraine. In moscow. Zelensky war is coming to russia. Take a look at this drone attack on an office block in moscow. Two in two days. Three government ministries inside. The mayor of moscow nobody was hurt. This was the aftermath of the Second Attack last night. Also several drones were also reportedly shot down by air defence systems. Look at this map. Red dots here. Moscow has reported a number of Drone Attacks throughout the year. Many have targeted areas close to the Ukraine Russia border. Heres nick beake, at the bbc� s evidence hub. Drone strikes of the heart of the russian capital are a big psychological boost for ukrainians. Its a big psychological win for the ukrainians but here at bbc verify we have been taking a closer look at what has been happening in the air and on the ground. I want to show you this video from last night of the latest attack. You can see the aftermath of it. The damage that has been done to this skyscraper, the windows, theyre blown out. But this building was attacked 2a hours earlier and if i show you this video, its much more dramatic and you can see within seconds of this video starting, that huge blast that rips through what is the financial district of moscow. You can see people coming at this point and trying to work out what has been happening, filming themselves on their phones. If we look at the map. The financial district and the Business District is only about five kilometres from the kremlin, as well as government ministries, there is also restaurants and luxury flats there. You can see how close it is so when the ukrainians talk about they were coming to President Putins about the war coming to President Putins doorstep, this, ithink, is what they mean. I can show you the complex, the places struck in the space of days, this is actually one skyscraper complex. As for the drone that was used, in the videos we have been looking at you, you cannot see the drone itself at the moment of impact but i want to show you this video, its interesting. You will make a distinctive shape and you can see the rear wing is much bigger than the first one. find much bigger than the first one. And this will be much bigger than the first one. fific this will be put on the pier weve been asking Drone Experts to look at this and they say it points to this particular throne and have a look at this, with the larger rear wing, the smaller front wing and the singular is very much like a ukrainian maid thrown in a long range device has a range of 2000 km. So, potentially enough to fly from ukrainian controlled territory to moscow. We are out ukraine is not responsible for these attacks can we do not know where these drones are sent out from. But we do not know where these drones are sent out from. What were trying to do here at Bbc Verifies Look at and all reports of suspected Drone Strikes so far this year and there is another concentration run moscow that is clear there and done towards the belarusian border as well. Also if youre looking at the heart keep region around here over the border, as well as other Drone Strikes in crimea, youre seeing all of the attacks they are kharkiv in looking at all these reports, that more than 120 Drone Attacks so far this year. This gives us an indication about ukrainians orjust Striking Notjust at indication about ukrainians orjust striking not just at the indication about ukrainians orjust Striking Notjust at the russian capital but other parts of russia itself and russian control territory. Itself and russian controlled territory. Two more updates. Russia says its also destroyed three ukrainian unmanned boats that were trying to attack two Russian Naval ships in the black sea. And Drone Attacks are taking place on ukraine too. In kharkiv, a College Dormitory was hit by a drone overnight into tuesday. And more than 80 people were injured after this Missile Strike in krivyi rih on monday. An academicjournal. Thank you both for coming on the programme. Looking at two areas. Firstly, the Drone Attacks on moscow, i want to spend a bit of time looking at the russian reaction to that and what i can tell us, if anything about the wider counteroffensive and will get on that little bit later. Lets come to you first, the Drone Attacks in moscow, what is the narrative around these Russian Media . The moscow, what is the narrative around these Russian Media . These Russian Media . The kremlins Media Machine these Russian Media . The kremlins Media Machine trying these Russian Media . The kremlins Media Machine trying to these Russian Media . The kremlins Media Machine trying to use these Russian Media . The kremlins Media Machine trying to use these l Media Machine trying to use these attacks as further justification Media Machine trying to use these attacks as furtherjustification of what officials in moscow insist on calling the special Military Operation in ukraine, theyre saying that ukraine is a threat that is to be tackled and also there is a decree of unwillingness to focus on these highly embarrassing attacks too much. But that seems to be the whole point of what may possibly be an attack carried out by ukraine somebody sympathetic towards ukraine, which is to undermine President Putin Possibles Key Statehood Objective of his approach to ukraine which is to make russia safer but as residents of moscow can see over the past few days, this is not really happened and in fact, Security And Moscow has become much worse. ~ ,. , ~ Security And Moscow has become much worse. ~ i. ~. , Security And Moscow has become much worse. ~ ~. ,. ,. , worse. With you think that does to the support worse. With you think that does to the support for worse. With you think that does to the support for vladimir worse. With you think that does to the support for Vladimir Putin worse. With you think that does to the support for Vladimir Putin and | the support for Vladimir Putin and the support for Vladimir Putin and the support for the war in ukraine among ordinary people in moscow . Ive been able to speak to one resident of moscow and she said that herfriends and resident of moscow and she said that her friends and relatives are not particularly concerned about this because clearly, the impact of these Drone Attacks have been minimal, some glass shattered and moscows Business Corridor which happens to house ministries and this clearly is not going to trigger a Sweeping Change of a c special Military Operations. But if you follow conversations on social media in ukraine, they seem to be the beginning of something which ukraine can achieve in the future, a demonstration of capability and these are Something Better watch closely both in russia and in ukraine. I closely both in russia and in ukraine. ,. , ,. ,. , ukraine. I want to pick up on that oint ukraine. I want to pick up on that point about ukraine. I want to pick up on that point about the ukraine. I want to pick up on that point about the safety ukraine. I want to pick up on that point about the safety of ukraine. I want to pick up on that| point about the safety of business and broken glass and nothing too major. Is this, a successful ukrainian policy or Military Strategy or not . Ukrainian policy or Military Strategy or not . Ukrainian policy or Military Strate or not . ,. , strategy or not . The question is, the task was strategy or not . The question is, the task was for strategy or not . The question is, the task was for the strategy or not . The question is, the task was for the Military Strategy or not . The question is, the task was for the military and | the task was for the military and psychological understand that these actions psychological understand that these actions were not reaching the ammunition or logistical of something that we see in belgrade are crimea in these cases, the psychological information is important to you follow the social networks. Important to you follow the social networks, you desperately can find these networks, you desperately can find these things. How ukrainian managed to do it these things. How ukrainian managed to do it and these things. How ukrainian managed to do it and dated in moscow, that should to do it and dated in moscow, that should be to do it and dated in moscow, that should be the most protected city. But theyre doing in other parts of russia but theyre doing in other parts of russia and but theyre doing in other parts of russia and they been presenting ukrainian russia and they been presenting Ukrainian Armed forces is weak and incapable Ukrainian Armed forces is weak and incapable. So if there incapable, how are incapable. So if there incapable, how are they capable of doing this . And the how are they capable of doing this . And the Security Measures in moscow increase and the Security Measures in moscow increase since the first attack against increase since the first attack against the kremlin and also, resolve against the kremlin and also, resolve his Military Equipment on the roof resolve his Military Equipment on the roof of resolve his Military Equipment on the roof of the Ministry Of Defence and as the roof of the Ministry Of Defence and as a the roof of the Ministry Of Defence and as a result, we have several nights and as a result, we have several nights of and as a result, we have several nights of ukrainian soldiers about injuries, nights of ukrainian soldiers about injuries, we have these drones used against injuries, we have these drones used against the injuries, we have these drones used against the buildings were ministries and Business People are being ministries and Business People are being stationed and so what it says about being stationed and so what it says about Russian Air Defence and russian about Russian Air Defence and Russian Air Defence is a small part of the Russian Air Defence is a small part of the bigger puzzle of demonstrating to the russian people that it demonstrating to the russian people that it is demonstrating to the russian people that it is notjust something in the channels that it is notjust something in the channels. The work is real and the army channels. The work is real and the army is channels. The work is real and the army is capable. War. To channels. The work is real and the army is capable. War. Army is capable. War. To the wider issue army is capable. War. To the wider issue of ukrainian wider issue of ukrainian counteroffensive, how do these Drone Attacks feed into it, if at all is happening . Attacks feed into it, if at all is hauuenin . ,. ,. ,. , attacks feed into it, if at all is hanneninu . ,. ,. ,. , , happening . This war has already been called by many happening . This war has already been called by many people happening . This war has already been called by many people as happening . This war has already been called by many people as a happening . This war has already been called by many people as a drone called by many people as a drone war. You can see the future has arrived for the wrong reasons to put it simply, ukraine doesnt have enough long range missiles and Military Aircraft to target Russian Troops and hardware from a safe distance. That is what that rely on drones and see numerous videos and pictures were off the shelf chinese made relatively cheap drones have been modified to drop grenades at Russian Troops that is a tactic that ukraine has been using successfully. In terms of the counteroffensive, as hana will know, there is a debate going on in ukrainian media whether this is even the right question to ask, whether its progressing fast enough because of the past months, even the Square Kilometres captured by the russians committed an increasingly high priced and so, the battle goes on and people in ukraine die on a daily and nightly basis and its a tragic situation no matter how you look at it. Its a tragic situation no matter how you look at it. About the lack of strength how you look at it. About the lack of strength of how you look at it. About the lack of strength of ukraine how you look at it. About the lack of strength of ukraine in how you look at it. About the lack of strength of ukraine in the how you look at it. About the lack of strength of ukraine in the air. L of strength of ukraine in the air. Ukraine shows to launch this counteroffensive without Air Superiority and lots of Military Experts of the time say fair enough, you cannot wait, if you have to go flying. But they do not envy your position for agenda launch a major counteroffensive to reclaim territory without superiority in the air. Its a effect now that ukraine has to wait for that to arrive . But is a difficult has to wait for that to arrive . But is a difficult question from the beginning because definitely, we look to beginning because definitely, we look to the us operations, so its been look to the us operations, so its been a look to the us operations, so its been a huge air support but the same timeu been a huge air support but the same time, we been a huge air support but the same time, we understand we will not have the majority time, we understand we will not have the majority in seven months and that doesnt mean that we should allow that doesnt mean that we should allow motion to continue their offensive allow motion to continue their Offensive Operations and it doesnt mean Offensive Operations and it doesnt mean that Offensive Operations and it doesnt mean that ukrainian people should continue mean that ukrainian people should continue to live under the Occupation Of The War Crimes the next Occupation Of The War Crimes the next seven Occupation Of The War Crimes the next seven months. It is our ukraine wants next seven months. It is our ukraine wants to next seven months. It is our ukraine wants to be next seven months. It is our ukraine wants to be symmetric and create as much wants to be symmetric and create as much as wants to be symmetric and create as much as possible and that is why they are much as possible and that is why they are using the drones and attacking they are using the drones and attacking russian ammunition and logistics attacking russian ammunition and logistics to limit supply to the front logistics to limit supply to the front line and it is not as quick as they front line and it is not as quick as they used front line and it is not as quick as they used to front line and it is not as quick as they used to be at the beginning of they used to be at the beginning of the war they used to be at the beginning of the war has russia. And ukraine is serving the war has russia. And ukraine is serving as the war has russia. And ukraine is serving as the front line in the kilometres in russia could not identify kilometres in russia could not identify where these counteroffensive were taking place and that counteroffensive were taking place and that is how it works and unfortunately, we cannot wait until that moment when a western allies decide that moment when a western allies decide that you deserved f 16s or something decide that you deserved f 16s or Something Like this and that is why we are Something Like this and that is why we are asking for your defence. The reason we are asking for your defence. The reason is, we are asking for your defence. The reason is, weve been waiting for the last reason is, weve been waiting for the last six reason is, weve been waiting for the last six months and everyone was waiting the last six months and everyone was waiting for the last six months and everyone was waiting for it the last six months and everyone was waiting for it in march and because of our waiting for it in march and because of our hesitation on the ukrainian side and of our hesitation on the ukrainian side and our partners hesitation, we received side and our partners hesitation, we received this while russia is able to get received this while russia is able to get some defence from the minefields on the front line. Thank ou both minefields on the front line. Thank you both very minefields on the front line. Thank you both very much. Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. I recall position meaning there will be a by election from it ensures that criminals of laid siege to the countryside and recorded a 22 increase in the cost of rural crime last year. Causing widespread concern. Food inflation slowed to 13. 4 in july helped by the price of staple foods by oils, fish and breakfast cereals. Several planes are in the air heading to niger to evacuate french and other european citizens from the country. After last weeks military coup. The us, spain and italy are also arranging Rescue Flights. The uk has told British Nationals in niger to register their location and stay indoors. But how did we get to this point, Nancy Kacungira has this breakdown. Niger is the largest country in west africa and the key part of the region. That is as of land from the Electric Ocean to the red sea. This is a territory that has been destabilised by military regimes. That is when the reasons why niger is so important because it is seen as an oasis of democracy in an otherwise troubled union. What went wrong was my choir every a crew and niger. So to say this takes the crew because the lack of Good Governance and security in the country. The action is and security in the country. The action is motivated and security in the country. Tt;e action is motivated by and security in the country. Tt9 action is motivated by the sole desire to preserve our beloved homeland in the face of continuous De Terrorizing of our country. The deterrorizing of our country. The nolitics De Terrorizing of our country. 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The Economic Group and other countries in the club have been the may deadline to restore the country to democratic rule. It further afield, countries of the us, france and russia have all gotten involved in giving their opinion on what is happening and niger. It is because of its geopolitical importance Stop Will Piercing China and niger getting. Will piercing china and niger uuettin. , getting. And getting the longest Well Pipeline getting. And getting the longest Well Pipeline on getting. And getting the longest Well Pipeline on the getting. And getting the longest Well Pipeline on the continent. L getting. And getting the longest i Well Pipeline on the continent. And france Well Pipeline on the continent. And france accepted huge databases and helping france accepted huge databases and helping to fight jihadists and also an interesting uranium. They have the united an interesting uranium. They have the United States and the largest drone the United States and the largest drone base on the continent and niger~ drone base on the continent and niuer. , ,. , drone base on the continent and niuer. ,. ,. , drone base on the continent and niuer. , ,. , , niger. Despite all that niger has to offer foreign niger. Despite all that niger has to offer foreign powers niger. Despite all that niger has to offer foreign powers almost niger. Despite all that niger has to offer foreign powers almost most l niger. Despite all that niger has to| offer foreign powers almost most of its population lives under the poverty line. On this instability, hopes of better governance in a better standard of living are even more at risk. Lets get more on the russian influence in niger and speak to Beverly 0chieng from bbc monitoring whcih analyses news and media from Around The World why are we seeing these russian flags in the country . Flags in the country . Previously, Nrotests Flags in the country . Previously, protests are flags in the country . Previously, protests are not flags in the country . Previously, protests are not allowed flags in the country . Previously, protests are not allowed to flags in the country . Previously, protests are not allowed to take | protests are not allowed to take place in niger and anti french protests. He started taking place last year when niger approved the redeployment of French Forces into the country and theres been widespread anger notjust here but also in other areas against French Military intervention. Some people, the solution is and russia and its interesting because part of it is because of the deliberate targeted campaigns by Progression Activists as well as the Wagoner Group which is been running influencing campaigns and how russia presents itself is no of the region. The Foreign Secretary visited molly early this year, they are going to go to the other golf and it seemed to be a Statement Targeting countries that are open to russian operation there have been protests calling for cooperation with russia in calling for the expulsion of French Forces. In calling for the expulsion of French Forces. , , , . , , French Forces. Sake of logical point of view, French Forces. Sake of logical point of view. Is French Forces. Sake of logical point of view, is this French Forces. Sake of logical point of view, is this a French Forces. Sake of logical point of view, is this a real French Forces. Sake of logical point of view, is this a real rejection French Forces. Sake of logical point of view, is this a real rejection of i of view, is this a real rejection of france in the western level of russia. But is the online Media Operations here that seems to have worked . ,. , worked . Opportunistic, despondency and france is worked . Opportunistic, despondency and france is not worked . Opportunistic, despondency and france is not an worked . Opportunistic, despondency and france is not an equivocation worked . Opportunistic, despondency and france is not an equivocation ofl and france is not an equivocation of welcoming russia its rather naive notion. Of the same time, some of these groups are growing to lean towards russia and it feels a rather coordinated as some activists have been previously targeting for closer pushing out the west and close to russia. It is also been some groupings they tend to be linked to the government were looking at areas that are social activists and Civil Society groups which gives so much residence, notjust anti prensa progression, is the fact that they are affiliated with local groups and speaking the sentiments of people and anger towards france and towards the west because they feel the interventions against the militants have been inadequate, its not sophisticated, it writes on prevailing sentiments and its rather a parody of the west and discredits them in that way. Fascinating issue, we could talk for hours but we are nearly out of time and so will let you go. Lots of the online operation and shifts of loyalty and niger. There is a developing situation and that is with efforts and evacuation of citizens of many European Countries in the west. We know the latest of france, it is an Evacuation Effort under way in peace is in the pictures. These are people who are citizens of many countries of france European Countries the us as i mentioned, many have been told the airport there you can see them waiting in there waiting for Rescue Flights and not on the sending Rescue Flights in some countries saying effectively get on board those flights. Of the uk is saying if youre British National and youre there, register your location with uk authorities and stay indoors. Jumping across the latest of these Evacuation Efforts as they get any more details. Hello there. It looks like its going to remain unsettled for the rest of this week. Thanks to low pressure, well see showers or longer spells of rain, some windy weather in the short term and it will generally feel on the cool side for early august. Now, theres a new area of low pressure for the time of year, will continue to push across the country tonight and into tomorrow, so conditions go downhill across pretty much all areas. Heavy rain starts to spread in. The winds begin to pick up across southern and Western Areas as the centre of the low edges closer towards our shores. 0n the plus side, though, it will be quite mild and muggy across the country with temperatures in the low to mid teens celsius range. So, tomorrow, then, well see the winds picking up with gales across southern england, certainly through the channel, 50 60 mph gusts in their own right could cause some disruption, some heavy rainfall. And into the afternoon, across england and wales in the centre of the low weather, the winds will be light, well see some slow moving, heavy and thundery downpours as well. Could see temperatures reach 20 22 degrees in the warmest spots, but i think for most mid to high teens sums it up. Now, that area of low pressure starts to pull out eastwards into the north sea and the continent, takes the heavy rain with it and we start to see a northerly wind develop across the uk. So its a little bit drier, i suppose, to start thursday, but therell be plenty of showers across southern areas. This is the pressure chart, then, for thursday. Were in a run of Northerly Winds and it will be one of sunshine and showers, and well have those pretty heavy showers from the word go across some southern parts of britain. Some sunshine around as well more cloud, though, for the northern half of scotland, showers or longer spells of rain here. Some of the heaviest of the showers through the afternoon could be across central and western parts of the uk. And those winds fairly brisk and Cool Temperatures at best, ranging from around 14 20 degrees from north to south across the country. For friday, its a similar story. Weve got Northerly Winds, sunshine and showers most of the showers affecting South East Scotland Down In towards east anglia and the southeast. Again, there could be the odd thundery one mixed in there, but some better sunny spells, i think, towards the west. But again, feeling cool for the time of year. It remains unsettled into the weekend. Low pressure always nearby, showers or longer spells of rain, and again, its going to feel pretty cool for early august. See you later. Hello, im lewis vaughanjones. Youre watching the context on bbc news. Could this site in Shetland Beach is months away from launching a rocket into space . Is this the uks answer to Cape Canaveral . We just have some Breaking News to bring you here in the uk. Its about margaret faria, mp, you may remember she has been recalled, she has lost her seat as an mp. This was the mp who you may remember travelled on a train after Testing Positive for covid. She was dismissed from the snp, her party. And then her constituents through the recall petition, i love signatures were gathered to recall her with effectively mean she loses her seat as an mp. We now have a statement from her. She says this. I respect the outcome of the decision. It has been the privilege of my life to serve as member of parliament. Ive always put myjob and my constituents first that i am disappointed that this will now come to an end. I decided some time ago that i would not stand in the upcoming by election. This has been a difficult and taxing process that is now come to its conclusion. I do not wish to prolong it further. I like to thank my team