The disruption of Sporting Events or this kind of action, what kind of protest is ok for you . Looking forward to talking to you about that, do get in touch. Before anything else, lets get the latest news. Donald trump has described his latest Court Appearance as a very sad Day For America after pleading not guilty to trying to overturn the 2020 us election result. The former president denied four charges, and said the case was persecution of a political opponent. Five people who were arrested after an anti fossil fuels protest at the home of the Prime Minister have been released on bail pending further inquiries. Greenpeace activists climbed onto the roof of rishi sunak 5 North Yorkshire house and covered it in black fabric. The government has set out plans to expand the use of the private sector to tackle the nhs backlog in england. 13 new Community Diagnostic Centres are being set up eight of which will be run privately. Scientists have warned that the oceans have hit their hottest ever recorded temperature, as they soak up warmth from Climate Change. The average daily global Sea Surface Temperature has beaten the record set in 2016. Welcome. Great to have your company this morning. Chris warburton with you. The question were asking, are you. The question were asking, are you sick of these stunts . As i say, you sick of these stunts . As i say, you will probably have seen those pictures by now, the Prime Ministers constituency in North Yorkshire, the front page of a lot of the newspapers, it is being widely debated all over the place. Greenpeace, they knew, we knew that the Prime Minister and his family were going to be jetting the Prime Minister and his family were going to bejetting off the Prime Minister and his family were going to be jetting off to california, so they made the most of it. All sorts of questions now about the security around the Prime Ministers holmes, plural, he has more than one, of course, under uk deputy Prime Minister had his say and was asked about the incident during a visit to hartlepool yesterday. I during a visit to hartlepool yesterday during a visit to hartlepool esterda. ~ ,. ,. , yesterday. I think most people would sa , sto yesterday. I think most people would say. Step the yesterday. I think most people would say, stop the stupid yesterday. I think most people would say, stop the stupid stunts. Yesterday. I think most people would say, stop the stupid stunts. What say, stop the stupid stunts. What they want to see from the government is action. That is what you are seeing here today. The largest Offshore Wind Farm being built here, creating jobs. At the same time, in the coming decades, we are going to need oil and gas as part of the energy mix. Need oil and gas as part of the energy mix need oil and gas as part of the energy mix. Need oil and gas as part of the ener mix. ~. ,. , i. , energy mix. What do you think . Is Oliver Dowden energy mix. What do you think . Is Oliver Dowden speaking energy mix. What do you think . Is Oliver Dowden speaking for energy mix. What do you think . Is Oliver Dowden speaking for you, i energy mix. What do you think . Is i Oliver Dowden speaking for you, are you sick of this kind of thing or do you sick of this kind of thing or do you think it is entirely legitimate, based on what we are facing as a planet, when it comes to the climate situation. Lets get into it. We are going to speak to the former Deputy Superintendent at the Metropolitan Police in just a little superintendent at the Metropolitan Police injust a little bit. But lets talk to greenpeace. Good morning to you, Will Mccallum. What has this achieved . Has this achieved . Well, im on 5 live now talking has this achieved . Well, im on 5 live now talking about has this achieved . Well, im on 5 live now talking about the has this achieved . Well, im on 5 live now talking about the risk i has this achieved . Well, im on 5 live now talking about the risk ofj live now talking about the risk of Climate ChangeAll Over The World. Eight front pages this morning talking, yes, obviously, but the protests, but also about why we were there. And its this government, despite the rhetoric of being a climate leader, talking about climate leader, talking about climate ambition, they announced 100 new oil and gas operations. fire climate ambition, they announced 100 new oil and gas operations. New oil and gas operations. Are they talkin new oil and gas operations. Are they talking about new oil and gas operations. Are they talking about that new oil and gas operations. Are they talking about that or new oil and gas operations. Are they talking about that or the new oil and gas operations. Are they talking about that or the breach new oil and gas operations. Are they talking about that or the breach of. Talking about that or the breach of the Prime Ministers security, an invasion of his property, trespass, etc . That is what is being discussed. You can talk legitimately about a lot of those are the subjects anyway. If you look at the bbc news website this morning, we are talking about the oceans. That is the top story on the bbc news website this morning. Whether you are doing that kind of protest or not . � ,. , ,. , are doing that kind of protest or not . Absolutely, it is the top story because it is not . Absolutely, it is the top story because it is quite not . Absolutely, it is the top story because it is quite scary. Not . Absolutely, it is the top story because it is quite scary. I not . Absolutely, it is the top story because it is quite scary. I think i because it is quite scary. I think people are genuinely scared about the impact they are feeling from Climate Change. People are not to see any action they want from government. On monday, every Single Member of the cabinet came out extolling the virtue of north sea oil and gas. Extolling the virtue of north sea oiland gas. By extolling the virtue of north sea oil and gas. By friday, the same cabinet members, we heard that Oliver Dowden was visiting an Offshore Wind Farm, they are talking about renewables, that is because they misread the public mood on monday. They thought they had the public on their side and they didnt, because the public are worried, they are seeing that top story and seeing that what the garment is doing is not enough, and we are worried. As greenpeace, our role is to elevate that sense of public urgency and desire for action, and take it to the decision makers. ~. , action, and take it to the decision makers. ~. , i. Action, and take it to the decision makers. ~. ,. , makers. What about you reading the ublic makers. What about you reading the public mood . Makers. What about you reading the public mood . Are makers. What about you reading the public mood . Are you makers. What about you reading the public mood . Are you 100 makers. What about you reading the public mood . Are you 100 sure makers. What about you reading the | public mood . Are you 10096 Sure You Public Mood . Are you 100 sure you are getting the public mood right on this . People have already shown their disdain, this . People have already shown theirdisdain, i this . People have already shown their disdain, i suppose, this . People have already shown their disdain, isuppose, their support, dont get me wrong, for the titlejust support, dont get me wrong, for the title just just support, dont get me wrong, for the titlejustjust oil support, dont get me wrong, for the title Just Just Oil tactics. Support, dont get me wrong, for the Title Justjust oil tactics. We are talking about the Prime Minister, his home, we are talking about mps in recent years, we know about the tragedy is, the deaths of mps who people have disagreed with. Im not making a direct comparison with what happened there, that would be ridiculous. But what about people who might think that it is ok to have a private home as a legitimate target for grievances against politicians . Irate target for grievances against politicians . Target for grievances against oliticians . ~. , , politicians . We are very, very careful with politicians . We are very, very careful with action politicians . We are very, very careful with action like politicians . We are very, very careful with action like this. I politicians . We are very, very i careful with action like this. We walked up to his front door extremely calmly and knocked on it, just to triple check the news reports were not lying when they said he was in california. We have also taken action at a politicians houses as well, 2005 we were atjohn prescott� s house, 2014, david cameron. We are always extreme the careful and we would not have taken this action if he and his family were home, so that would not be acceptable. There is a dividing line. There is a picture of oily black drapes covering the Prime Ministers house in the week that he announced he wants 100 new oil and gas licenses. But announced he wants 100 new oil and gas licensee gas licenses. But it is not the h sical gas licenses. But it is not the physical harm gas licenses. But it is not the physical harm or gas licenses. But it is not the physical harm or threat, gas licenses. But it is not the physical harm or threat, but. Gas licenses. But it is not the i physical harm or threat, but you are talking about a family home here, his constituency home, i understand that as well, as we said, he has many homes. I dont know if you have ever been burgled before on the impact that can have on your children, when youre talking to them about that, and the feeling that they have about the threat to their security. There is an emotional impact on anybody� s lives when Something Like this happens to their home. Surely . Their home. Surely . Absolutely, i cant imagine their home. Surely . Absolutely, i cant imagine what their home. Surely . Absolutely, i cant imagine what it their home. Surely . Absolutely, i cant imagine what it is their home. Surely . Absolutely, i cant imagine what it is like i their home. Surely . Absolutely, i cant imagine what it is like to i their home. Surely . Absolutely, i cant imagine what it is like to be| cant imagine what it is like to be the child of a Prime Minister living with a permanent security detail. They were away, i sincerely hope and i assume they are being very well taken care of at the moment. I hope they feel no threat. We are so calm, we are so measured in our actions, smiling and the pictures, we are there simply to send that message. It is still their house. Home there simply to send that message. It is still their house. It is still their house. Now was not the time to it is still their house. Now was not the time to be it is still their house. Now was not the time to be pushing it is still their house. Now was not the time to be pushing forward i it is still their house. Now was not l the time to be pushing forward with a fossil fuel future. Star; the time to be pushing forward with a fossil fuel future. A fossil fuel future. Stay with us. I want to bring a fossil fuel future. Stay with us. I want to bring in a fossil fuel future. Stay with us. I want to bring in the a fossil fuel future. Stay with us. I want to bring in the former i i want to bring in the former Detective Superintendent from the met. Hello, what was your Immediate Reaction when he started seeing the photos of what was happening in North Yorkshire . Its photos of what was happening in North Yorkshire . North yorkshire . Its really interesting North Yorkshire . Its really interesting to North Yorkshire . Its really interesting to hear North Yorkshire . Its really interesting to hear what i North Yorkshire . Its really| interesting to hear what Will Mccollum has to say, and there are a couple of points i absolutely agree with. One is that he is right, it is really scary, what is going on. Can you imagine that somebody� s private home has been accessed, whether it is outside come on top of the building, where children live, where those children are going to have to come back at some point and they are going to be petrified. Im speaking from a police perspective, when we deal with victims, he talked about burglary, this was not a burglary because you have to prove intent and gain access to the building, but having dealt with thousands of victims of crime, that have had their house broken into, or they have had people outside, it is irrelevant whether you are careful when you entered and had a big smile on yourface. Children in when you entered and had a big smile on your face. Children in that environment particularly will not be having a big smile on theirface, they will be petrified. That will have lasting effects on them. Privacy of their home, but nobody is hurt or injured, they have done their thing and gone again, and the children are old enough to understand what happened in that case, surely . Understand what happened in that case. Surely . Case, surely . Dont think theres an issue case, surely . Dont think theres any issue around case, surely . Dont think theres any issue around people case, surely . Dont think theres i any issue around people supporting what the reasons are for protesting and making your point, but the fact is they have gone a step too far. Yes, they may explain to their children, and it may be because the Prime Ministers children are already in an environment where the fact is, those children in that family, any family, go home to the privacy of their home, they close their front door, privacy of their home, they close theirfront door, even privacy of their home, they close their front door, even when they are not there, the majority of people that have their homes broken into or they find out that simply has been lurking around outside their premises, when they are away on holiday, they come back and they find that really difficult to deal with. And it has opened up another can of worms in terms of the security at the Prime Ministers house. 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The only debate was, are they in the house and activists . The only debate was, are they in the house or and activists . The only debate was, are they in the house or not . I and activists . The only debate was, are they in the house or not . We i are they in the house or not . We know are they in the house or not . We know that are they in the house or not . We know that we take every precaution to speak know that we take every precaution to speak with the police, inform people to speak with the police, inform people what we are doing and be very safe. People what we are doing and be very safe we people what we are doing and be very safe. We have two red lines, one was was it safe. We have two red lines, one was was it safe, safe. We have two red lines, one was was it safe, was the weather safe enough was it safe, was the weather safe enough to was it safe, was the weather safe enough to do it, and where people at home . Enough to do it, and where people at home . So enough to do it, and where people at home . So it enough to do it, and where people at home . So it was not burglary, as the police home . So it was not burglary, as the Police Officer home . So it was not burglary, as the Police Officerjust said, it was notched Police Officerjust said, it was notched off the children were not there. Notched off the children were not there. So, notched off the children were not there, so, we take every single precaution, and that is where all of our focus precaution, and that is where all of our focus days, making sure people are safe, our focus days, making sure people are safe, that people know what were are safe, that people know wh