The uk Home Secretary, has used a speech to a right wing us think tank, to say that multiculturalism has failed. And that a lack of control over migration poses an � existential challenge� to the west. Suella braverman also said that fearing said that fearing discrimination for being gay, or a woman, should not be enough to qualify for International Refugee protection. She questioned whether the application of the uns 1951 Refugee Convention is � fit for our modern age�. The Refugee Convention was drawn up following world war two, and has at its centre the principle that refugees should not be returned to countries where they face threats to their lifes or freedom. Heres part of the Home Secretarys speech. Illegal migration is notjust a cyclical problem, it is a permanent and structural challenge to the developed nations in general and the west in particular. Unless we act, it will only worsen in the years to come. Live now to our political correspondent, david cornock. A lot of different, it is important to go through and she says there was a fundamental challenge of uncontrolled migration and existential challenge she described and political systems cannot control borders, cannot endure and the threat to democracy effectively the line that she was talking about and not just line that she was talking about and notjust in america with the Mexican Border to europe, to italy, to where the situation in terms of people coming to doubled this year, in terms of the eu, she cited figures of 66 in the eu compared with 2021 in terms of refugees, she said the un reckon there were 29 million refugees and she talked about the numbers likely to search over the next few years and then went on to talk about the legal constraints on the models that she said were outdated and that has a very prompt and Swift Response from the un agency who said that the Refugee Agency who said that the Refugee Agency sold the refugees remain the cornerstone of refugee protection and it is critical now as it is when it was originally draughted and went on to say that the Convention Save millions of lives and pointed to conflicts in ukraine and saddam and its continued importance is very swift for a bottle from the un agency and join the programme, we will look at some of those claims and assertions made in verify and we have guests from both sides of the political argument about how to control migration and will continue to go to the debate here in the next little while others are just some of the main planks we have heard from swell a bra for return to that story next two minutes. The number of Ethnic Armenians leaving the disputed territory of Nagorno Karabakh has grown to about 19,000. Thats about 15 per cent of the population. Adding to the scenes of desperation. At least 20 people died in an explosion at a fuel depot. Armenian separatist officials say, almost 300 people are in hospital. Dozens are in critical condition. The International Committee of the red cross says there are hundreds of burns victims and it is looking to help with medical evacuations. The cause of the blast is not known. The roads out of Nagorno Karabakh to the border are jammed, with people trying to get out as fast as they can. They fear persecution and ethnic cleansing. Heres heres one refugee describing their experience of leaving. Translation it was horrible, children were starving and they were crying. A child fainted, she had a fever, so we gave her some medication. We ran away to survive, that is all. Live now to our correspondent kasra naji in the armenian capital yerevan. Where the entrance of this villa and it is the first place refugees arrived into armenia and this is their entrance into armenia and all day, weve been hearing in the mornings and the last few hours, theres been a steady stream of cars coming through and an hour ago, suddenly it stopped for some reason that we do not understand and he picked up again and theyre coming through. Full of people, refugees and other belongings, whatever they could get in there heading towards a Registration Centre which is just behind the camera and there are a few tenants they been set up by the International Committee of the red and to register them. There is also another Registration Centre further up another Registration Centre further up in the next town, and the next village and some people say theyre going there to register but my own impressions that a lot of these people are not registering and their driving through and for that reason, i think the numbers that are given by the authorities at the red cross and the numbers of refugees coming through, it may be a real number is a lot higher than that. We heard this morning that there were about 19,000 people so far arriving here in the last two or three days but my impression is that the real number is higher. The impression is that the real number is hiaher. , impression is that the real number is hiaher. , is higher. The official figure is now a of 20,000 is higher. The official figure is now a of 20,000 and is higher. The official figure is now a of 20,000 and all is higher. The official figure is now a of 20,000 and all the i is higher. The official figure is now a of 20,000 and all the while it climbs and im sure it will continue to climb and let us go back to the same place of the border and watching those numbers increase and give us a sense of it feels being there . � , give us a sense of it feels being there . � ,. ,. , give us a sense of it feels being there . � ,. , , give us a sense of it feels being there . , there . Its about seven minutes past eiuht there . Its about seven minutes past eight oclock there . Its about seven minutes past eight oclock local there . Its about seven minutes past eight oclock local time there . Its about seven minutes past eight oclock local time and there . Its about seven minutes past eight oclock local time and it there . Its about seven minutes past eight oclock local time and it is eight oclock local time and it is dark, as you can see, up until a few moments ago, the steady stream of cars coming through and it stopped for some reason, there seems to be some regulating work going down the road there which we are not allowed to go which is the actual border and every now and then, there huge number of cars coming in suddenly stopped. This is going on in the numbers are going up and up expect this to continue through the night. Some the stories people have been saying to you . It is some the stories people have been saying to you . Saying to you . It is very sad and the all saying to you . It is very sad and they all look saying to you . It is very sad and they all look very saying to you . It is very sad and they all look very dazed, saying to you . It is very sad and i they all look very dazed, confused, angry, hungry and troubling for 28 hours or so and that way, you can see the mountains and its taken them around 2a hours or more to reach here in their cars and some of them did not know where they were going and others in the capital im going and others in the capital im going to ask them whether they have relatives, some of them said we have not been in contact and others say not been in contact and others say no and we just want to rent a place and basically, many of those i talked to did not know where theyre going to sleep tonight and all of them shone from a in their places because they have fled war and we are very fearful, many of them have fled the last minute and taking of the last things that they could take with them and getting in the car and leaving because there are explosions, there were things around them and basically they did not feel safe at all and when i said to them, azerbaijan, the security of fighting to stay and it is the last thing we do and in any case, we do not want to live under azerbaijan rule. That is the general mentality and when i asked what do you plan for this, interesting was one mans answer saying the traitors. And he said russia, of course a lot of these people blame russian forces, russia had 20,000 Peacekeeping Forces and it looks as though they would be other way while azerbaijan took over their land and their homes. But school live their land and their homes. But school live to their land and their homes. But school live to the person in the dedication of our media. Thank you for being with us and we spoke earlier, what is the situation from where youre sitting in the needs and the numbers which are able to provide . And the numbers which are able to rovide . ~ and the numbers which are able to rovide . , ~ ,. , and the numbers which are able to rovide . , ~ i. ,. Provide . Thank you very much. The humanitarian provide . Thank you very much. The humanitarian situation provide . Thank you very much. The humanitarian situation in provide . Thank you very much. The humanitarian situation in the provide . Thank you very much. The humanitarian situation in the area l humanitarian situation in the area remains precarious. Basically food and social medicines are running out and social medicines are running out and Communication Services remain disrupted. Thousands of people are fleeing their homes and our organisation really needs a statement for humanitarian law and in respect of the people that are fleeing these large scale movements that are taking place but we are calling on is the people, where they choose to stay or leave must be protected. People and Family Members must not be separated against their will and our priority has been identified to ensure the protections of people and those who choose to states that they have enough for health care and other social Services Like water and food. And people maintaining contact with them the area with Family Members and focusing our efforts especially after yesterday for the fuel depot for the transport of medical treatment as well as the dignified treatment as well as the dignified treatment of the dead. And treatment as well as the dignified treatment of the dead. Treatment of the dead. And more Eole Treatment of the dead. And more people what treatment of the dead. And more people what happened treatment of the dead. And more people what happened at treatment of the dead. And more people what happened at the treatment of the dead. And more l people what happened at the Depot Treatment of the dead. And more people what happened at the depot to actually the numbers are climbing all the time, do you have adequate provisions to cope with those numbers and possibly many more in the coming days . find numbers and possibly many more in the coming days . The coming days . And absolute, hundreds of the coming days . And absolute, hundreds of people the coming days . And absolute, hundreds of people injured the coming days . And absolute, hundreds of people injured and l hundreds of people injured and tonnes were killed and complication and actually dealing with this issue on the already capacity of the local hospitals that are working beyond the possibilities and basically we are talking about the influx of patients on top of those wounded and those of the medical staff and the medical response and the dressing kit and materials for the local hospitals currently, we are in a convoy of ambulances dismissed or bring part of the urgent critical injured burnt patients however, we are continuing our dialogue the Decision Makers to increase the number of medical evacuations. Pressure talk again but thank you for providing us with the latest information of what is happening there on the ground. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Lets look at some other stories making news. 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Saying that multiculturalism has failed and that the lack of control over migration poses an existential challenge to the west. It is good to robert, the head of statistics robertson Headline Grabbing Numbers is a0 Million People who want to come to the uk and 780 million on whom the convention grants Refugee Rights and those are some of the figures she used and how much weight should be put on those figures in the way that we used. Should be put on those figures in the way that we used. Almost scary settin the way that we used. Almost scary Setting Numbers the way that we used. Almost scary Setting Numbers in the way that we used. Almost scary Setting Numbers in their the way that we used. Almost scary Setting Numbers in their very the way that we used. Almost scary Setting Numbers in their very high l Setting Numbers in their very high and the people said they might want to come to a country like the uk in april conducted, youd roughly get the same number of yes the question 2012, and the gap of the people might want to do and later pops possibly migrate and those who do it up possibly migrate and those who do it up with their lives and move around the world with a huge number, the southern edge of the million who could get granted Refugee Rights, thatis could get granted Refugee Rights, that is adding up all the people in the world who might get persecuted on the ground of race, religion, Sexual Orientation and things like that, but theres a big difference in being in a group that may get persecuted and actually meeting the definition of a refugee and someone new as of the year that they will get persecuted and is a big gap between that 780 who might possibly get Refugee Status in the 35 Million People who, these are pretty highball numbers. People who, these are pretty highball numbers. What about the performance highball numbers. What about the performance around highball numbers. What about the performance around 2096 Highball numbers. What about the performance around 20 in highball numbers. What about the l performance around 20 in general crossings . Performance around 20 in general crossinus . , performance around 20 in general crossinus . ~. , ;; 11 11 crossings . Channel. Around 30,000 eole crossings . Channel. Around 30,000 people across crossings . Channel. Around 30,000 people across the crossings . Channel. Around 30,000 people across the Channel Crossings . Channel. Around 30,000 people across the channel to crossings . Channel. Around 30,000 people across the channel to seek people across the channel to seek entrance and thats 25,000 now and thatis entrance and thats 25,000 now and that is a decrease, 20 . But its to the second highest year on record insolent one part of the problem of the government is facing because of the government is facing because of the part they have and they were for this is the Million Pounds a day of their spending on hotel bills to accommodate people who were waiting for there is some claims to be processed by the reason for that is the number of people coming in and another part of the reason is a long time between arriving and getting her asylum claim and the government is not showing any sign of significant progress on that and the backlog is going up and theyve called some improving numbers that the government can look at but theres still some pretty significant issues in terms of government performance and dealing with this issue has to do with public scepticism. Quite back thank you very much. And in the incident. Mikejones, the Migration Watch Uk and think support of you thank you both. 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