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The light of our lives. Police are continuing to question a teenage boy in connection with the stabbing. Lets cross to croydon and our correspondent barry caffrey. What is the latest . The shock and sadness here what is the latest . The shock and sadness here in what is the latest . The shock and sadness here in croydon what is the latest . The shock and sadness here in croydon really what is the latest . The shock and sadness here in croydon really is| sadness here in croydon really is palpable, with people questioning how a 15 Year Old Girl making her way to school at half past eight in the morning could have been knifed to death. She has been named, Elianne Andam, she has been described as much loved. Within the last hour, herfamily described as much loved. Within the last hour, her family have released a statement and written some words about her. I will read those to you now. They say that their hearts are broken by the senseless death of our daughter. Elianne was the light of our lives. She was bright and funny. She had her whole life ahead of her and was aged only 15. She had hopes and was aged only 15. She had hopes and dreams for her future, they said. All those dreams have now been shattered. 0ur lives have fallen apart along with that of our wider family. The details in this particular case are shocking. It was at half past eight yesterday morning that elianne was making her way to school on the number 60 bus. Witnesses described an argument taking place between a boy and two girls. Elianne was stabbed in the neck. Witnesses say it was a night of 30 centimetres long that was used. Within an hour, police had arrested the boy, just after 9 20am yesterday morning and taken to Police Custody where he remains today. Metropolitan Police Officers say they are not looking to speak to anyone else in relation to this incident. You will be able to see that bus which is just behind me. Forensic officers have been working hard all morning and all day here and the local police thanking the local community in croydon for putting up with the investigation. I have been his its Early Morning this morning speaking to lots of people in the local area, including some parents who were walking their children to school this morning. 0ne children to school this morning. One woman told me that she just didnt know how to explain to her five year old daughter about what had happened overnight. Another parent told me that she felt croydon just was not a safe area of london to be at the moment. Just to give you some figures. The girl is the 15th teen victim of homicide in london so far this year. 13 of those victims have been stabbed but as i said, the 15 Year Old Girl has been named within the past hour as Elianne Andam. Named within the past hour as Elianne Andam. , ~ ,. ,. , Elianne Andam. Thank you for those details. Elianne andam. Thank you for those details tragic Elianne Andam. Thank you for those details. Tragic incident Elianne Andam. Thank you for those details. Tragic incident for Elianne Andam. Thank you for those details. Tragic incident for the details. Tragic incident for the family and for that community. For more on this lets speak to barry mizen, co founder of the Mizen Foundation which he set up with his wife after their son jimmy was killed in an unprovoked knife attack in South East London in 2008. For most people, this is such a shocking story. Go on her way to school being killed in this way but obviously, for you, there is particular Resonance Given what he went through with your own son . Absolutely. My heart goes out to set� s family and friends, absolutely awful situation. Just that figure of being the 15th young person being killed this year. Its making the news. Unfortunately, a lot of these dont make the news nowadays. Thats dont make the news nowadays. Thats an awful thing dont make the news nowadays. Thats an awful thing to dont make the news nowadays. Thats an awful thing to think dont make the news nowadays. Thats an awful thing to think that dont make the news nowadays. Thats an awful thing to think that it an awful thing to think that it happens so often that it doesnt make the new sometimes. But what are your thoughts about effective ways to tackle this problem because obviously this incident has put that into the four peoples mines. How do we stop this . I into the four peoples mines. How do we step this . We stop this . I think theres already a we stop this . I think theres already a conversation we stop this . I think theres| already a conversation about we stop this . I think theres already a conversation about the government and knives and things. Its not that easy. When our son was killed, i was very aware that i didnt want a politician to come and say we are going to change it or make Something Else illegal because i would like to think that people tend to step back from this rhetoric, wejust tend to step back from this rhetoric, we just need tend to step back from this rhetoric, wejust need harsh punishment or harsh condemnation of these things. And try to accept the fact that these things are actually happening, there is no quick solution, increasing the punishment that has been done will not solve that. But come to the understanding that. But come to the understanding that our young people growing in this country who do not know any other way to behave, maybe we can start looking at it from a different angle. Start looking at it from a different antle. ~. , start looking at it from a different an le,. ,. , start looking at it from a different an. Le,. ,. , start looking at it from a different anale. ~. Start looking at it from a different anle. ;. , angle. What was the most useful thin for angle. What was the most useful thing for you angle. What was the most useful thing for you in angle. What was the most useful thing for you in a angle. What was the most useful thing for you in a situation angle. What was the most useful thing for you in a situation like i thing for you in a situation like this . Communities are rallying round, they want to support these families. What did you find was the most useful reaction for you in this difficult situation . The most useful reaction for you in this difficult situation . Most useful reaction for you in this difficult situation . The most useful or impactful difficult situation . The most useful or impactful thing difficult situation . The most useful or impactful thing for difficult situation . The most useful or impactful thing for us difficult situation . The most useful or impactful thing for us was difficult situation . The most useful or impactful thing for us was the i or impactful thing for us was the sheer love that was shown to us as a family for days and days afterwards. There is such a need, i can recall those as if it was yesterday, you are desperate for news, you are desperate for any bit of news about how it happened. I think for all of us, absolutely show love in any way we can but that includes putting information on the appropriate hand. Is there any information out there. The killer of our son was eventually found guilty, was found guilty at court but it was the witnesses that made a difference. So i would urge people, yes love, there are lots of Resources Available and pray they have every single resource that will help them, but the love that was shown to us made a big difference. Thank you so much for sharing your story and experience with us. Barry mizzen is a co founder of Mizen Foundation, his sonjimmy was killed in a stabbing in South East London in a stabbing in South East London in 2008. Some Breaking News now. 0fcom has launched an investigation into the episode earlier this week on tuesday as dan wootton tonight on gb news. 0fcom say they have received around 7300 complaints about the programme which aired on tuesday and they are investigating this programme under the Broadcasting Code which states that in applying generally expected standards, broadcasters have to ensure that material which may cause offence is justified ensure that material which may cause offence isjustified by the ensure that material which may cause offence is justified by the context. This is of course the media Regulator 0fcom that is launching an investigation into that programme, choose as episode of dan wootton tonight on gb news. That is a development on that story. You will remember that there were some comments made about another journalist, there was a lot of backlash to those comments and now we are hearing that 0fcom, the Media Regulator is going to be looking into this incident. We will bring you more on that as we get it. The separatist leader of Nagorno Karabakh has formally ended the territorys struggle for independence. Samvel shakhramanyan issued a decree saying that at the end of the year, the republic of Nagorno Karabakh will cease to exist. The region is recognised internationally as part of azerbaijan but armenia took control in the 19905 following the collapse of the soviet union. Azerbaijan mounted, in effect, a blockade of a vital route into the enclave in december last year. Just over a week ago, Azerbaijani Forces seized control. More than half the Ethnic Armenian population has now fled, fearing violence. Armenian Officials Say more than 70,000 people have now crossed their border. Many have ended up in the Armenian Border town of goris, from where our correspondent Sarah Rainsford gave us this update. There are huge crowds here in the centre of goris this morning, lots and lots of people. Tens of thousands have now left Nagorno Karabakh and are heading here to armenia. And in border towns like this, there is now a massive aid effort under way. It is notjust the government that is helping out, there is also local businesses bringing donations and local people who are offering rooms and houses for people to stay in. We have seen people arriving here with cars packed full of belongings. There was one this morning that had chickens, a cage of chickens strapped to the roof and a bicycle, a childs bike on top of that. People are bringing everything they can carry, but of course it is not very much, and so their needs are pretty huge as they arrive here. And there are groups of families, large families, lots and lots of children just sitting around on the grass or in some shade here, getting food, getting some help, but really, their future now is pretty uncertain. They dont quite know where they go from here, but what they do know now is that they wont be going back. In fact, there has been a formal statement by the separatist authorities in Nagorno Karabakh, that region that has never been internationally recognised, they have now said that formally speaking, all State Institutions there will be dissolved by the end of this year, and that the republic of artsakh, as armenians call it, will cease to exist. People i have been speaking to here have been very saddened by that, but also they are angry. They say they have been abandoned by the armenian government, that they were abandoned, and this was inevitable. They have called it a tragedy because so many people here have actually fought over the years for the right to be in control of that sliver of territory in the mountains, and now they have had to abandon that of independence. 0lga Ivshina Reports from the azerbaijan capital, baku. From what i hear from residents in stepanakert, the station remains critical. That help theyre getting is not enough. Azeri side says that they have sent at least six humanitarian convoys and theyre ready to deliver more. However, the Karabakh Armenians refuse to accept this help, at least directly. But overall, it seems the volume of humanitarian effort which reaches Nagorno Karabakh is definitely not enough for the amount of people who are currently trapped there. And just to remind you, all those people are exhausted, both physically and mentally, because of the nine months de facto blockade, because the only road connecting Nagorno Karabakh to armenia is currently controlled by the azeri forces, because all of that territory of Nagorno Karabakh is recognised by International Law as the territory of azerbaijan. And azerbaijan militarily has an upper hand now. The biggest question now is whats happening in those small villages around stepanakert, what situation there . Armenians are afraid that, you know, all those people they account now as missing might have died during the recent hostilities. Azeri side denies any accusations of wrongdoing. They say they have targeted only military targets. But before there is any International Independent assessment of the situation in the ground, all those questions will remain. Live now to dr vicken cheterian, who is an International Relations lecturer at the university of geneva, and also covered the establishment of Nagorno Karabkh in the 19905 as a journalist. If you think back to covering the establishment of this separate state and now what we are seeing, what are your reflections on what is with moment means . To your reflections on what is with moment means . Your reflections on what is with moment means . To things, First Establishment moment means . To things, First Establishment of moment means . To things, first i establishment of nagornokarabkh moment means . To things, First Establishment of nagornokarabkh de establishment of Nagorno Karabkh de facto state was the result of a struggle like the one recently, it was a struggle for existence and my Second Thought is that we had 26 years between the first wall and a second war that took place in 2020. The International Community lost these 26 years to find diplomatic negotiated solution for this crisis. We could have avoided the tragedy today. Share we could have avoided the tragedy toda. � ,. , we could have avoided the tragedy toda. � we could have avoided the tragedy toda. �. , we could have avoided the tragedy toda. , today. Are you saying that this is something today. Are you saying that this is something that today. Are you saying that this is something that could today. Are you saying that this is something that could have today. Are you saying that this is something that could have been | something that could have been easily predicted . Easily predicted . Yes, it was evident but easily predicted . Yes, it was evident but simply, easily predicted . Yes, it was evident but simply, i easily predicted . Yes, it was evident but simply, i think. Easily predicted . Yes, it was| evident but simply, i think we looked in a different direction. The tragedy we are witnessing today was announced for the last nine months when azerbaijan imposed a total blockade on Nagorno Karabkh and the International Community had nine months to packed to avoid this tragedy, to avoid thousands of casualties but we were paralysed, i think the war in ukraine has covered our screens, you didnt let any space to debate about the looming war over Nagorno Karabkh. Tens space to debate about the looming war over nagornokarabkh. Tens of thousands of war over nagornokarabkh. Tens of thousands of people war over nagornokarabkh. Tens of thousands of people have war over nagornokarabkh. Tens of thousands of people have now war over nagornokarabkh. Tens of thousands of people have now fled | thousands of people have now fled Nagorno Karabkh, not all of them though. What you think life will be for the armenians who decide to stay . For the armenians who decide to sta . , for the armenians who decide to sta . ,. , , for the armenians who decide to sta . , stay . That will properly be a very small minority stay . That will properly be a very small minority who stay . That will properly be a very small minority who decide stay . That will properly be a very small minority who decide to stay . That will properly be a very| small minority who decide to stay and i am very afraid that the azerbaijani government willjust use them for propaganda purposes, may be them for propaganda purposes, may be the azerbaijani government will feed and supply a couple of thousand armenians to claim that they are protecting Minority Rights and that azerbaijan is a multicultural state. In fact, azerbaijan could have chosen a diplomatic way of solving this problem, and said they chose war, they chose to ethnically cleanse Nagorno Karabkh. That war, they chose to ethnically cleanse nagornokarabkh. That is Somethina Cleanse nagornokarabkh. That is something you cleanse nagornokarabkh. That is something you are cleanse nagornokarabkh. That is something you are mentioning cleanse nagornokarabkh. That is. Something you are mentioning again, saying that time was lost in which diplomatic situation could have been found. Do you think there are lessons here in terms of dealing with these kind of conflict and perhaps pointing to the fact that solving them by mitres right doesnt produce long lasting results . I think the conclusion from what we witness is that exactly the contrary. Today, the azerbaijani president learnt and potentially many dictators in the world have learnt, that might is right. You can create tragedies and you can initiate Ethnic Cleansing and eventually what comes is that you are Strong Enough and you win. Even after the start of the attack and Ethnic Cleansing, i didnt hear a single Western Leader apart from the french leader, who said that what is happening is Ethnic Cleansing and that they are responsible for the crimes being committed. So i think it is the contrary. It is the contrary. Thank you very much, it is the contrary. Thank you very much. Good it is the contrary. Thank you very much. Good to it is the contrary. Thank you very much, good to have it is the contrary. Thank you very much, good to have you. It is the contrary. Thank you very much, good to have you. Around it is the contrary. Thank you very much, good to have you. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Lets look at some other stories making news. The average rate on a five year Fixed Mortgage has fallen below six per cent for the First Time Since earlyjuly. New figures from the Financial Information service, moneyfacts, show the typical rate dropped to 5. 99 . Thats down from 6. 03 yesterday. Lenders have been cutting rates, after the Bank Of England ended a run of 1a consecutive Interest Rate increases. The backlog of serious criminal cases waiting to be heard at Crown Courts In England And Wales has hit a new all time record. Official figures published this morning reveal there were well over 64,000 outstanding cases at the end ofjune more than double the number in 2018, before the pandemic. Northumberland National Park authority believes that a well known 300 year old Sycamore Tree was deliberately felled on wednesday night. The local landmark was situated in a natural dip in the landscape in a gap in hadrians wall. Its familiar silhouette was often photographed, and featured in the film robin hood prince of thieves. Youre live with bbc news. New rules have been published for what presenters on flagship bbc programmes can say on social media following a row over gary lineker� s posts. In March The Bbc presenter was suspended for a tweet criticising the governments Asylum Policy he was then reinstated after a few days. The report says high profile presenters should be allowed to express views on issues and policies but should stop short of political campaigning. Gary lineker said the new rules were all very sensible. 0ur Media Correspondent David Sillitto has the story. So lets go through the findings with helena wilkinson. What have we learnt today about what presenters can or cannot say . Ianthem presenters can or cannot say . When the directorgeneral presenters can or cannot say . When the directorgeneral Of Presenters can or cannot say . When the directorgeneral of the presenters can or cannot say . When the Director General of the bbc tim davie earlier this year after that whole episode, you mentioned when gary lineker, the presenter of much of the day, the bbc� s highest paid star, tim davie had said that there were grey areas in the existing bbc social media guidance and that is why there was this review to look into how it applied to freelancers, and also staff, but the bigger names on those Flagship Programmes and today, after that review, which has been published, we have also got a new set of guidelines for those big names and how they can use social media. As you mention there, it says that those presenting Flagship Programmes and the bbc lists a number of Flagship Programmes that include match of the day, which gary lineker presents, The Apprentice that alan sugar presents, the presenters of those programmes must not endorse a political party, they must also not criticise the character of individual politicians in the uk. But it seems there is quite a lot of leeway because the presenters under this new guidance can express views on issues and policies, including matters of political contention. We know of because gary lineker has tweeted previously, many occasions, regularly tweets about his fort on politics. But i think the only way that these new guidelines can be tested is when somebody like gary lineker, here is one of these high profile stars, tweets something to see how he interprets these guidelines. As you mention there, he has reacted to this update and guidance by putting on social media that it all sounds very sensible to him but we shall wait and see and probably all eyes on what he will be putting on a social media Going Forward to see how he interprets these new roles. These new roles. Thank you very much. These new roles. Thank you very much hell these new roles. Thank you very much. Hell and these new roles. Thank you very much. Hell and there. These new roles. Thank you very much. Hell and there. Lets these new roles. Thank you very| much. Hell and there. Lets show these new roles. Thank you very much. Hell and there. Lets show you some Life Pictures coming to us from the First Committee hearing on the Impeachment Inquiry against President Joe Biden of the us. That is what is happening there as you can see. This is the Us House Committee on oversight and reform. Lets listen in. Committee on oversight and reform. Lets listen in lets listen in. They did it to us. The standard lets listen in. They did it to us. The standard for lets listen in. They did it to us. The standard for impeachment l lets listen in. They did it to us. | the standard for impeachment is lets listen in. They did it to us. The standard for impeachment is not whether they did it to us but whether they did it to us but whether they did it to us but whether the president committed treason or bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanours. The constitution is irrelevant. What counts is what donald trump wants. As republican representative told cnn the other day, president tom has gone on a social media account and say we should be impeaching joe biden. This impeachment was a result of president trans pressure. So remove from the Government Shutdown to a tramp ordered Impeachment Process and yet that any reality based world, the majority is set completely empty handed with no evidence of president ial wrongdoing. In fact, we have had to slide awkwardly into a pouch that it might house Impeachment Process that the benefit of the floor vote. They went to the Department Ofjustice and got an 0lc opinion saying, quote, no Pit Committee may overtake the momentous move from legislative oversight to impeachment without the delegation from the full house. 0lc opinion, january 19, 2020 and that is why the house voted in the case of donald trump but that is exactly what has not happen here because they dont have the votes, because dozens of republicans recognise what a futile and absurd process this is. Now, the title of the his hearing is the impeachment ofjoe biden. They provide no basis at all today. We a ear provide no basis at all today. We a ear to provide no basis at all today. We appear to have lost that feed but we were listening in there today to the Impeachment Inquiry intojoe biden. In terms of what that is, it is an investigation of possible wrongdoing ljy investigation of possible wrongdoing by a federal official. It is the most powerful check than the congress has on the government which includes the president , Vice President and the cabinet. Republicans who narrowly control house at this time have accused joe biden of profiting while he served as Vice President from 2009 it was to as Vice President from 2009 it was to 2017 as Vice President from 2009 it was to 2017 from his sons business ventures. We are keeping and i on that inquiry because of course, this is the formal process that is getting under way. We will keep an eye on that Impeachment Inquiry into joe biden. Lets remind you of some other Breaking News that we have had in this hour and that is from 0fcom, which is the Media Regulator here in the uk. They have announced that they are launching an investigation into tuesdays episode of dan wootton tonight on tv news. They say they have received around 7300 complaints about the programme which aired on gb news this week. That is an investigation by the Media Regulator into that incident. We will bring you more on that as we get it. Stay with us here on bbc news. Hello. Storm agnes has swirled away from our shores, but that doesnt mean its completely plain sailing weather wise. In fact, as we head towards the end of the day, it is going to turn increasingly wet across some western parts. 0n the satellite picture, you can see yesterdays storm system, this curl of cloud pushing away northeastwards. But another Weather System now pushing in from the west that will turn things increasingly wet. And its already quite breezy out there. In fact, really quite windy up towards the northwest of the uk. Outbreaks of rain developing across some western parts, further east, largely dry with some hazy sunshine, 17 to 20 degrees. And then through the evening we will see this Band Of Rain Moving across the West Of Scotland and northern ireland. Could be some heavy thundery bursts and some squally winds and then turning really wet through the evening across parts of wales, particularly south wales, up into the midlands, some parts of south wales could see enough rain for some flooding and some localised disruption. That rain then pushes its way towards the south east corner. Behind that, clear skies, further showers racing into the western side of scotland where it will stay really quite windy. Temperatures of ten degrees in aberdeen and glasgow, but 16 there in london. A mild night down towards the southeast where this Weather Front will still be clearing away first thing in the morning. High pressure to the south of us, low pressure to the north that will bring something of a split in weather fortunes. Essentially, its a day of sunshine and showers, but most of the showers across western and particularly North Western parts where it is going to stay windy. In fact, gales are quite likely in the far north of scotland. The further south you are fewer showers. In fact, it should stay dry with some sunshine. 18 degrees in cardiff, 19 in plymouth, always a little bit cooler further north, 1a there in stornoway. Now this area of High Pressure toppling its way through could give quite a chilly night on friday night. And then for saturday, here comes another Weather System, another bouts of wet weather thats likely to push across northern ireland, up into scotland, affecting northwest england, parts of wales, further south and east. It should stay largely dry, perhaps with some sunshine lifting those temperatures to 20 or 21 degrees could actually be even warmer down towards the southeast on sunday. This band of cloud and Showery Rain Across Parts of england and wales. Further north, a mix of sunny spells and showers, temperatures ranging from 15 to around 23 degrees. Bye for now. This is bbc news. The headlines. Police name the 15 Year Old Girl stabbed to death on her way to school in south london yesterday. The family of Elianne Andam says, she was the light of our lives. More than 70,000 refugees flee Nagorno Karabakh, as its separatist leader admits the struggle for independence is over. Balancing freedom of expression and impartiality. Bbc stars are told what they can and cant say on social media. And one of the uks most loved actors, Sir Michael Gambon best known for Playing Dumbledore In The Harry Potter Films Has died at the age of 82. Let us get the sport, for a full round up here is becky davis. Thank you. Welcome to the bbc sports centre, where the clock is ticking down, untilwe centre, where the clock is ticking down, until we see that first tee shot at the ryder cup in rome where the pairs will be confirmed very shortly