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Imagine doing this while under enemy fire. Trying to find and make safe a deadly hidden device which could also kill you. It is what these experienced ukrainian engineers have been doing for the past year. Now here in neighbouring poland, honing their skills. With the health of british soldiers, who faced a similar threat in the heat and dust of afghanistan. Back in ukraine, this is what they are facing. Ground littered with russian mines and explosives. Ukraine is now the most heavenly heavily mined country in the world and it is what has balked down their advance. Russia has led hundreds of thousands of mines across ukraine, scattered over an area the size of florida. In some places, the minefields are ten kilometres deep. And injust one square metre there could be as many as five minds. Then it is among those being targeted by Russian Forces so they mostly have to conduct their work at night and theyre simply not enough of them. 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Is that because you are going. We need your help. Is that because you are worried going. We need your help. Is that because you are worried that going. We need your help. Is that because you are worried that the | because you are worried that the west will not keep going . Because we will not make west will not keep going . Because we will not make it west will not keep going . Because we will not make it by west will not keep going . Because we will not make it by our west will not keep going . Because we will not make it by our own. West will not keep going . Because we will not make it by our own. When west will not keep going . Because we will not make it by our own. When we | will not make it by our own. When we make stuff shape will not make it by our own. When we make stuff shape galach will not make it by our own. When we make stuff shape galach safe will not make it by our own. When we make stuff shape galach safe we make stuff shape galach safe we should make stuff shape galach safe we should make sure the other teams. This training should make sure the other teams. This training and support is appreciated. The uk has also supplied ukraine with 1500 mine detectors, the hope that it will make a difference. We detectors, the hope that it will make a difference. Detectors, the hope that it will make a difference. We are fellow soldiers at make a difference. We are fellow soldiers at the make a difference. We are fellow soldiers at the end make a difference. We are fellow soldiers at the end of make a difference. We are fellow soldiers at the end of the make a difference. We are fellow soldiers at the end of the day make a difference. 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The clock is ticking on the ukrainian offensive and are | on the ukrainian offensive and are still in their way or the minefields, the booby traps laid on an industrial scale. The slow roll out their homeland. This is a journey no one squeezed into their regular calls ever imagined they would make. Ethnic armenians fleeing Nagorno Karabakh on whatever transport they can find. It is a week since azerbaijan seized back the enclave. It did promise to protect the armenian majority there no one we found dared believe that. Instead, they flooded here to armenia. We met this family of seven who had crammed their entire lives into some cases. Hungry and exhausted after more than a day crushed into one car. And still reeling from what they have had to give up. Translation it was tough there but it was our land for generations. Armenian land and now today we are here, we are homeless. Armenia initially prepared to host 40,000 refugees. It could be facing many more. The cars keep coming through the mountains. There are still hundreds of people leaving Nagorno Karabakh every single hour. People have left behind their homes and their land and almost everything they own and i have not met a Single Person who has told me they think they are ever going back. This is not a temporary evacuation, it is an exodus. We cannot get to Nagorno Karabakh from Armenia Now Azerbaijan is in control but a local journalist recalled told me everyone he knows plans to leave as soon as the giant traffic jams he knows plans to leave as soon as the giant trafficjams die down. Translation there was a war but things are really hard. So people did not really hard. So people did not really think long about whether to stay or go. They decided to leave. Because we lost, it was a capitulation. So what can we do . In a nearby town there is now a Desperate Crush for information and for aid. Desperate crush for information and foraid. From people Desperate Crush for information and for aid. From people who suddenly have nothing. There are donations though not much. And no clear picture on for all of these people will end up. And many are still shaken by two days of shelling last week. As is retook Nagorno Karabakh ljy week. As is retook Nagorno Karabakh by force this woman and her grandchildren huddled in their cellar. Translation she has now had to tell them they will not be going home because she is scared to live under the rule of azerbaijan. They have joined the crowds now heading into uncertainty. As the face of Nagorno Karabakh is transformed. Driving across niger, the countryside appears peaceful. But despite the veneer of normality, this is one of the ten deadliest countries in the world for terrorism. Approach until supporters have been camped outside a French Military base for weeks. They said the french have failed to stop the terror attacks. The french have failed to stop the terrorattacks. Every the french have failed to stop the terror attacks. Every friday since the military transition in this country, friday prayers have been held here right outside the French Military base, hundreds of people are in attendance and in the sermon today the imam was preaching patience saying in a divorce between a man and a woman it takes time and similarly he says niger is in a war with france and that will take time. For the imam, perceived french hypocrisy is to blame. Translation why is Emmanuel Macron saying he does not recognise our authorities when he has recognised judges in other countries like chad. That is what has made us angry and we think france takes us for idiots. The chantra has ceased in his talk of resentment at the french to argue that niger can go it alone. I asked the newly appointed governor weathered the chantra can keep his country safe from terrorists. Translation he replies that niger forces have obese ensured the safety of their people and can defend their country without foreign partners. But those opposed to the crew believe the departure of french troops could be dangerous. Translation in the fight against terrorists france is a key partner that provides most of the intelligence that helps us beat the terrorists trying to attack niger. But many local people are frustrated with the lack of progress when it comes to the war on terror. This woman is originally from one of the regions worst affected byjihadi violence. She tells me her mother � s because in a Village Chief was assassinated by terrorists seven months ago, they killed him by slitting his throat. She does not believe the french have successfully reduced terrorism. There has been some progress in the fight against extremism, last year terror related deaths in nigerfell by 79 . One critical of the chantra will speak to us on the record and the Military Follow our every move so it is unclear what proportion of the population once the french to stay but as france loses its last base in the sahel its influence in the region has been dealt a blow. The government is working on a bill that would make surrogacy a universal crime. Many gay couples say their chance of having a family is destroyed. You are having to seek Political Asylum . And considering all the possible ways to escape as quick as possible. So is the Italian Government eroding the rights of Lgbt Families . I caught icaught up i caught up in italy and this is a place to influence of the Catholic Church has always been strong. Gay marriages are legal and same sex couples have fewer rights than in most of western europe. Surrogacy hats against the law as Artificial Insemination or. Surrogacy is when a woman carries a pregnancy for another couple and it has been illegal in italy per year so same sex couples travel to countries where it is regulated such as the us, canada or the uk. Then they bring their Newborn Babies back home. Like miro and moritz you who have been together for 20 years and they are the twins. Born to a circuit in america. They are the twins. Born to a circuit in america. Smiling and lau~ahin circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot. For circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot. For louisa, circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot. For louisa, she circuit in america. Smiling and i laughing a lot. For louisa, she is caring, she seems to need more protection. Has caring, she seems to need more protection protection. As a gay couple how difficult has protection. As a gay couple how difficult has it protection. 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So for them surrogacy was | the only option to become fathers. But now, the Italian Parliament is working on a bill that would make surrogacy a universal crime. That means that couples go abroad to undertake surrogacy in countries where it is legal could face a 1 Million Euros fine and up to two years injail. To Million Euros fine and up to two years in jail years in jail. To be the son of a universal years in jail. To be the son of a universal crime years in jail. To be the son of a universal crime is years in jail. To be the son of a universal crime is a years in jail. To be the son of a universal crime is a stigma years in jail. To be the son of a universal crime is a stigma onl years in jail. To be the son of a i universal crime is a stigma on our children. 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A crime so serious it is prosecuted evenif crime so serious it is prosecuted even if committed abroad but there is normally human trafficking, paedophilia or war crimes. It feels odd that surrogacy which is legal in many countries would fall under this category. Many people feel that this is about ideology, it is a political attack and it is personal. So what have italian politicians been saying about this . The political debate has been extremely fractious. Applause. The politicians come they talk about surrogacy, they call it uterus for rent which is terrible. There is no dignity for all the people involved. In calling a woman it uterus, 0k . And saying she is for rent. Because they want to humiliate anybody, if you call it uterus for rent you cannot have a positive opinion about that, how can you say, it is good. No other country in the world has a similar ban but is Making Surrogacy A Universal crime legal . In similar ban but is Making Surrogacy A Universal crime legal . 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Like to send to the west . Keep going we like to send to the west . Keep going we need like to send to the west . Keep going. We need your like to send to the west . Keep going. We need your help. Like to send to the west . Keep going. We need your help. Is i like to send to the west . Keep i going. We need your help. Is that because you going. We need your help. Is that because you are going. We need your help. Is that because you are worried going. We need your help. Is that because you are worried that going. We need your help. Is that because you are worried that the | because you are worried that the west will not keep going . Because we will not make west will not keep going . Because we will not make it west will not keep going . Because we will not make it by west will not keep going . Because we will not make it by our west will not keep going . Because we will not make it by our own. West will not keep going . Because we will not make it by our own. 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We are fellow soldiers at the end of the day make a difference. We are fellow| soldiers at the end of the day and we share soldiers at the end of the day and we Share Experiences<\/a> throughout the course we Share Experiences<\/a> throughout the course of we Share Experiences<\/a> throughout the course of our experiences and their experiences course of our experiences and their experiences and we train together. And you experiences and we train together. And you think you have given them the skills to stay alive . We and you think you have given them the skills to stay alive . The skills to stay alive . We have added to them. The skills to stay alive . We have added to them. The the skills to stay alive . We have added to them. The clock the skills to stay alive . We have added to them. The clock is the skills to stay alive . We have i added to them. The clock is ticking on the ukrainian added to them. The clock is ticking on the ukrainian offensive added to them. The clock is ticking on the ukrainian offensive and added to them. The clock is ticking on the ukrainian offensive and are | on the ukrainian offensive and are still in their way or the minefields, the booby traps laid on an industrial scale. The slow roll out their homeland. This is a journey no one squeezed into their regular calls ever imagined they would make. Ethnic armenians fleeing Nagorno Karabakh<\/a> on whatever transport they can find. It is a week since azerbaijan seized back the enclave. It did promise to protect the armenian majority there no one we found dared believe that. Instead, they flooded here to armenia. We met this family of seven who had crammed their entire lives into some cases. Hungry and exhausted after more than a day crushed into one car. And still reeling from what they have had to give up. Translation it was tough there but it was our land for generations. Armenian land and now today we are here, we are homeless. Armenia initially prepared to host 40,000 refugees. It could be facing many more. The cars keep coming through the mountains. There are still hundreds of people leaving Nagorno Karabakh<\/a> every single hour. People have left behind their homes and their land and almost everything they own and i have not met a Single Person<\/a> who has told me they think they are ever going back. This is not a temporary evacuation, it is an exodus. We cannot get to Nagorno Karabakh<\/a> from Armenia Now Azerbaijan<\/a> is in control but a local journalist recalled told me everyone he knows plans to leave as soon as the giant traffic jams he knows plans to leave as soon as the giant trafficjams die down. Translation there was a war but things are really hard. So people did not really hard. So people did not really think long about whether to stay or go. They decided to leave. Because we lost, it was a capitulation. So what can we do . In a nearby town there is now a Desperate Crush<\/a> for information and for aid. Desperate crush for information and foraid. From people Desperate Crush<\/a> for information and for aid. From people who suddenly have nothing. There are donations though not much. And no clear picture on for all of these people will end up. And many are still shaken by two days of shelling last week. As is retook Nagorno Karabakh<\/a> ljy week. As is retook Nagorno Karabakh<\/a> by force this woman and her grandchildren huddled in their cellar. Translation she has now had to tell them they will not be going home because she is scared to live under the rule of azerbaijan. They have joined the crowds now heading into uncertainty. As the face of Nagorno Karabakh<\/a> is transformed. Driving across niger, the countryside appears peaceful. But despite the veneer of normality, this is one of the ten deadliest countries in the world for terrorism. Approach until supporters have been camped outside a French Military<\/a> base for weeks. They said the french have failed to stop the terror attacks. The french have failed to stop the terrorattacks. Every the french have failed to stop the terror attacks. Every friday since the military transition in this country, friday prayers have been held here right outside the French Military<\/a> base, hundreds of people are in attendance and in the sermon today the imam was preaching patience saying in a divorce between a man and a woman it takes time and similarly he says niger is in a war with france and that will take time. For the imam, perceived french hypocrisy is to blame. Translation why is Emmanuel Macron<\/a> saying he does not recognise our authorities when he has recognised judges in other countries like chad. That is what has made us angry and we think france takes us for idiots. The chantra has ceased in his talk of resentment at the french to argue that niger can go it alone. I asked the newly appointed governor weathered the chantra can keep his country safe from terrorists. Translation he replies that niger forces have obese ensured the safety of their people and can defend their country without foreign partners. But those opposed to the crew believe the departure of french troops could be dangerous. Translation in the fight against terrorists france is a key partner that provides most of the intelligence that helps us beat the terrorists trying to attack niger. But many local people are frustrated with the lack of progress when it comes to the war on terror. This woman is originally from one of the regions worst affected byjihadi violence. She tells me her mother \ufffd s because in a Village Chief<\/a> was assassinated by terrorists seven months ago, they killed him by slitting his throat. She does not believe the french have successfully reduced terrorism. There has been some progress in the fight against extremism, last year terror related deaths in nigerfell by 79 . One critical of the chantra will speak to us on the record and the Military Follow<\/a> our every move so it is unclear what proportion of the population once the french to stay but as france loses its last base in the sahel its influence in the region has been dealt a blow. The government is working on a bill that would make surrogacy a universal crime. Many gay couples say their chance of having a family is destroyed. You are having to seek Political Asylum<\/a> . And considering all the possible ways to escape as quick as possible. So is the Italian Government<\/a> eroding the rights of Lgbt Families<\/a> . I caught icaught up i caught up in italy and this is a place to influence of the Catholic Church<\/a> has always been strong. Gay marriages are legal and same sex couples have fewer rights than in most of western europe. Surrogacy hats against the law as Artificial Insemination<\/a> or. Surrogacy is when a woman carries a pregnancy for another couple and it has been illegal in italy per year so same sex couples travel to countries where it is regulated such as the us, canada or the uk. Then they bring their Newborn Babies<\/a> back home. Like miro and moritz you who have been together for 20 years and they are the twins. Born to a circuit in america. They are the twins. Born to a circuit in america. Smiling and lau~ahin circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot. For circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot. For louisa, circuit in america. Smiling and laughing a lot. For louisa, she circuit in america. Smiling and i laughing a lot. For louisa, she is caring, she seems to need more protection. Has caring, she seems to need more protection protection. As a gay couple how difficult has protection. 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The Italian Government<\/a> is using other ways to come down on lgbt parents, they described it to me as a small but systematic ambushes that are making it more difficult for them to create a family. And critics of the Italian Government<\/a> are pointing to what is happening to 33 Young Children<\/a> born to lesbian parents in northern italy. To lesbian parents in northern ital. Y. , to lesbian parents in northern ital. G. , to lesbian parents in northern ital. G. ,. ,. , to lesbian parents in northern ital. G. ,. M to lesbian parents in northern ital. Q. ,. ,. , m name italy. My name is valentina. My name is daniela. Italy. My name is valentina. My name is daniela she italy. My name is valentina. My name is daniela. She is italy. My name is valentina. My name is daniela. She is katarina, italy. My name is valentina. My name is daniela. She is katarina, our is daniela. She is katarina, our daughter is daniela. She is katarina, our daughter. Our is daniela. She is katarina, our daughter. Our love is daniela. She is katarina, our daughter. Our love story is daniela. She is katarina, our. Daughter. Our love story started very quickly. We fell in love. It was love at first sight. Katarina was love at first sight. Katarina was born using was love at first sight. Katarina was born using a was love at first sight. Katarina was born using a danish was love at first sight. Katarina was born using a danish sperm j was love at first sight. Katarina was born using a danish sperm donor. She was registered in italy as having two mothers. But in december only a couple of months after the government took power, their world was turned upside down. All lesbian mothers in the area received letters from the public prosecutor. Challenging their children. {jut challenging their children. Our families are challenging their children. Our families are not challenging their children. Or families are not really families. In the opinion of the actual government. That decision has left several children suspended in legal limbo. Because daniela is not the biological mother, she cannot have parenting rights to her child. We feel like the Italian Government<\/a> is going we feel like the Italian Government<\/a> is going through a battle against children is going through a battle against children but is absolutely violent and ab5urd. And very dangerous. For the future and ab5urd. And very dangerous. For the future of and ab5urd. And very dangerous. For the future of these children. But the Prime Minister<\/a> says children deserve the best. And that is being raised by a mother and father. She says it is so many times that her words were remixed into a House Music Song<\/a> that played in clubs and on the radio. I wanted to speak to someone in government about this so i am going to meet the mp who drafted the bill that would make surrogacy a universal crime. She believes even in countries like the us and canada where surrogacy is regulated, women do it for the money. We are on our way to meet two men who are expecting a baby three surrogacy and they are really scared of what could happen to them and their baby. And so they have asked us not to reveal their identity or where they live. They fear someone in government could watch this, figure out who they are and target them. How do you feel about the fact that you are about to become parents for the first time . It is you are about to become parents for the first time . The first time . It is super, super excitina. The first time . It is super, super exciting. Considering the first time . It is super, super exciting. Considering that the first time . It is super, super exciting. Considering that it the first time . It is super, super exciting. Considering that it is i the first time . It is super, super. Exciting. Considering that it is not an easy process. We are finally getting there. If an easy process. We are finally getting there an easy process. We are finally getting there. If the bill is passed before their getting there. If the bill is passed before their baby getting there. If the bill is passed before their baby is getting there. If the bill is passed before their baby is born, getting there. If the bill is passed before their baby is born, they i before their baby is born, they could face severe consequences. I am afraid that our could face severe consequences. I am afraid that our child could face 5evere consequences. I am afraid that our child will not have his parents afraid that our child will not have his parents because their parents or injail~ his parents because their parents or injail~ if his parents because their parents or in ail. , his parents because their parents or in ail. ,. , \ufffd in jail. If the baby comes and were auoin to in jail. If the baby comes and were going to go in jail. If the baby comes and were going to go to in jail. If the baby comes and were going to go to jail. In jail. If the baby comes and were going to go to jail, who in jail. If the baby comes and were going to go to jail, who takes in jail. If the baby comes and were going to go to jail, who takes care | going to go to jail, who takes care of the baby . In going to go to ail, who takes care of the baby . Going to go to ail, who takes care of the bab . ,. ,. , of the baby . In that case we have to be ready to of the baby . In that case we have to be ready to escape of the baby . In that case we have to be ready to escape as of the baby . In that case we have to be ready to escape as quick of the baby . In that case we have to be ready to escape as quick as be ready to escape as quick as possible be ready to escape as quick as tossible. ,. ,. ,. , ~ be ready to escape as quick as tossible. ,. ,. ,. , ~. , possible. They are looking for countries possible. They are looking for countries where possible. They are looking for countries where it possible. They are looking for countries where it is possible. They are looking for countries where it is easier i possible. They are looking for| countries where it is easier for them to be gay parents like malta and the netherlands. You would have to pack up and move . Yes. And the netherlands. You would have to pack up and move . To pack up and move . Yes, in the worst scenario, to pack up and move . Yes, in the worst scenario, yes. To pack up and move . Yes, in the worst scenario, yes. We to pack up and move . Yes, in the worst scenario, yes. We have i to pack up and move . Yes, in the worst scenario, yes. We have to. | to pack up and move . Yes, in the i worst scenario, yes. We have to. How do ou worst scenario, yes. We have to. How do you feel worst scenario, yes. We have to. How do you feel about worst scenario, yes. We have to. How do you feel about having worst scenario, yes. We have to. How do you feel about having to worst scenario, yes. We have to. How do you feel about having to leave i do you feel about having to leave the country you were born in . I ieeil the country you were born in . I feel reall bad the country you were born in . I feel really bad because the country you were born in . I feel really bad because it the country you were born in . I feel really bad because it took the country you were born in . I feel really bad because it took time to create really bad because it took time to create a really bad because it took time to create a good environment, a Good Community<\/a> create a good environment, a Good Community<\/a>. | create a good environment, a Good Community<\/a> create a good environment, a good communi. ,. , ~. ,. , community. I would not like to leave my country community. I would not like to leave my country because community. I would not like to leave my country because i community. I would not like to leave my country because i had community. I would not like to leave my country because i had a community. I would not like to leave my country because i had a good i community. I would not like to leave my country because i had a good job| my country because i had a good job and i am proud to be italian. I am feeling judged for something which is not a crime, actually, i have been trying to be part of this society, be honest in order to be a good citizen and now you are telling me i am a criminal. So good citizen and now you are telling me i am a criminal. Me i am a criminal. So do you feel like ou me i am a criminal. So do you feel like you are me i am a criminal. So do you feel like you are having me i am a criminal. So do you feel like you are having to me i am a criminal. So do you feel like you are having to seek like you are having to seek Political Asylum<\/a> . Like you are having to seek Political Asylum<\/a> . Like you are having to seek tolitical as lum . ,. , Political Asylum<\/a> . Yes, i do. Ifeel like i am being Political Asylum<\/a> . Yes, i do. Ifeel like i am being exiled Political Asylum<\/a> . Yes, i do. Ifeel like i am being exiled for Political Asylum<\/a> . Yes, i do. Ifeel like i am being exiled for having l like i am being exiled for having done something which is actually normal. So becoming a father. Without exploiting anybody. Exploitation is the accusation often used against these couples but they say they have a great relationship with their surrogate. A few weeks ago she sent them this letter with a gift. Ago she sent them this letter with a tift. ,. ,. , ago she sent them this letter with a gift. Congratulations on your baby bo. We gift. Congratulations on your baby boy we are gift. Congratulations on your baby boy we are so gift. Congratulations on your baby boy. We are so grateful gift. Congratulations on your baby boy. We are so grateful you gift. Congratulations on your babyj boy. We are so grateful you chose gift. Congratulations on your baby i boy. We are so grateful you chose us to go boy. We are so grateful you chose us to go on boy. We are so grateful you chose us to go on this boy. We are so grateful you chose us to go on this journey with you. This to go on this ourney with you. This is a ve to go on this journey with you. This is a very special to go on this journey with you. T\ufffd i 3 is a very special bear, enjoy your gift we cannot wait to see you. Although our love. It was written like a hug and then we hugged it and there was a sound and there was a heartbeat. And this is a symbol of everything, of the and this is a symbol of everything, of the journey. So we are not doing anything of the journey. So we are not doing anything bad. So of the journey. So we are not doing anything bad anything bad. So far there is no suggestion anything bad. So far there is no suggestion the anything bad. So far there is no suggestion the government i anything bad. So far there is Noj Suggestion<\/a> the government will anything bad. So far there is no suggestion the government will back down. The proposal to make surrogacy a universal crime is likely to become law. Chipping away at the already fragile status of italy \ufffd s lgbt community. Everyone we spoke to told us that they are not going to give up. They dont want their children to be treated as second class citizens just because they have two mothers or fathers, just because they have two mothers orfathers, no matter what the Italian Government<\/a> does next. They will keep fighting for the right to have a family. We will keep fighting for the right to have a family have a family. We need to be vitilant have a family. We need to be vigilant and have a family. We need to be vigilant and we have a family. We need to be vigilant and we need have a family. We need to be vigilant and we need to have a family. We need to be vigilant and we need to fight | have a family. We need to be i vigilant and we need to fight for our rights. They think they had the right to ive they think they had the right to give us they think they had the right to give us the permission to live our lives . Give us the permission to live our lives . This give us the permission to live our lives . This is discrimination. This is homophobia. They could not stop i5 homophobia. They could not stop us in i5 homophobia. They could not stop us in the i5 homophobia. They could not stop us in the past. And they will not stop us in the past. And they will not stop us us in the past. And they will not stop us in us in the past. And they will not stop us in the future. Hello. Some of you will stay dry and bright through the day but for others it is a soggy saturday as we go through the afternoon. It is down to these Weather Fronts<\/a> approaching from the south west, bringing outbreaks of rain especially through the central strip of the country meaning north of scotland is dry and bright with sunny spells and isolated showers, lighter winds than yesterday, South Of England<\/a> and the Channel Islands<\/a> day strike with breaks in the cloud but outbreaks of rain, heavy and extensive in Northern Ireland<\/a>, erratic to the north and west of wales and turning wetter in south west scotland. Strong winds gusting may 45 miles an hour around the irish sea coast, pressure to the north, warm to the south east with sunshine, 20 or 21 degrees. This evening and overnight the first batch of heavy rain gets through before Clearing Skies<\/a> come in later but it turns wetter in parts of northern england, north and west wales tomorrow morning but not the temperatures, 12 16 , warm and humid. Particularly the further south you are, leading to mist and murk around especially around south western coast and for northern england, north and west wales, further outbreaks of rain some of which will be happy. Moving south and east, Brightening Up Here And Joining Scotland<\/a> and Northern Ireland<\/a> with sunshine. South west england, the midlands and lincolnshire turning cloudy and damp later but towards the south and east, we see sunny breaks and 23 or 24 degrees, pretty warm for the 1st of october. As we go into monday, High Pressure<\/a> is across europe, sharing some of the warmth, unusual for this time of year but we are on the edge of it and that will still allow further Weather Fronts<\/a> to push their way in. The wind is strong on monday away from the north of scotland, mixture of sunshine and showers but through parts of western england and wales we see rain developing, some of that heavy through the midlands and some glimpses of sunshine, pretty warm and humid in the south east, pressure further north especially with the wind across northern scotland, 13 or 14 degrees. Taking us into next week, we see some sunshine, it will feel quite warmer times although fresher days to come on tuesday and wednesday but expect rain every now and again especially in the north and the west. Take care. Live from london. This is bbc news. More than 100,000 Ethnic Armenians<\/a> have now fled Nagorno Karabakh<\/a> since azerbaijans offensive on the region began earlier this month. The threat of a Us Government<\/a> shutdown inches closer, after members of Congress Fail<\/a> to reach an agreement on spending. 15 year old Jessica Baker<\/a> has been named as the teenage girl who died in a School Bus Crash<\/a> on the m53 in the wirral. The driver, stephen shrimpton, also died. 27 years after the death of tupac shakur, police in nevada charge a former gang leader for the murder of the american hip hop star. Hello, im Lewis Vaughan<\/a> jones. Armenias government says more than 100,000 Ethnic Armenians<\/a> have now fled Nagorno Karabakh<\/a>. Thats after azerbaijan took control of the disputed enclave after a lightning Military Campaign<\/a> earlier this month. 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