You think about this idea . And whether we think we need this idea . Visit bbc dot co. Uk slash five live and here� s your news. Sir keir starmer has called labour� s win in the rutherglen and Hamilton West by election a seismic result for the party. They secured more than twice the number of votes as the snp which had held the seat. Labour� s pledged to bring in supervised toothbrushing at schools in england as well as an extra 700,000 Dentist Appointments if they win the next election. The party� s also pledged to prioritise patients in need of serious treatment. Rishi sunak and his italian counterpart Georgia Meloni Have urged the eu to go much further in tackling illegal migration. They say action� s needed to smash the Smuggling Gangs who� ve caused a moral and humanitarian crisis. And mps are calling for a ban on the use of Live Facial Recognition Technology for public surveillance. They� ve signed a statement with tech experts and Campaign Groups to raise concerns about the police and private companies deploying the cameras. So this idea of supervised Tooth Brushing sessions at school. As i mentioned, it� s already happening. Teachers, let� s hear on you from this. 83 of teachers say they help with brushing. They said that there are children and their schools who do not have supplies. This could relate to The Cost Of Living crisis. We know there� s a crisis in dentistry. How much is this is not having access to a dentist, or being able to afford dental toothpaste, toothbrushes. What is at the heart of it . Professor Claire Stevens, a paediatric dentist is on our show to talk about this. Good morning, how are you . I� m fine. Wanting to get to the bottom of this. We� ve got Chris Groombridge who is head of the charity, and michelle, a health visitor. In charity, and michelle, a health visitor. �. ,. ,. , visitor. In bournemouth, Dental Health is really visitor. In bournemouth, Dental Health is really important. Visitor. In bournemouth, Dental Health is really important. We l visitor. In bournemouth, dental. Health is really important. We give out toothbrushes, toothpaste because we dont out toothbrushes, toothpaste because we dont routinely see children until we dont routinely see children until theyre ten months. So we try to get until theyre ten months. So we try to get in until theyre ten months. So we try to get in early, get their teeth sorted to get in early, get their teeth sorted at to get in early, get their teeth sorted at an early age. Its about getting sorted at an early age. Its about getting that message out early, how to promote Good Dental Health in children to promote Good Dental Health in children. But to promote Good Dental Health in children. � ,. ,. , children. But why are you needed, sor to children. But why are you needed, sorry to interrupt. Children. But why are you needed, sorry to interrupt. Well, children. But why are you needed, sorry to interrupt. Well, because l children. But why are you needed, i sorry to interrupt. Well, because we know that there sorry to interrupt. Well, because we know that there are sorry to interrupt. Well, because we know that there are far sorry to interrupt. Well, because we know that there are far too sorry to interrupt. Well, because we know that there are far too many. Know that there are far too many children know that there are far too many children who need teeth out. Dental care is children who need teeth out. Dental care is a children who need teeth out. Dental care is a real problem. Children are having care is a real problem. Children are having problems, their parents are registered having problems, their parents are registered at a dentist so getting a child into registered at a dentist so getting a child into a dentist is almost impossible. There is an nhs act where impossible. There is an nhs act where you impossible. There is an nhs act where you can put in your postcode and yotrit where you can put in your postcode and youll be lucky if a dentist come and youll be lucky if a dentist come up and youll be lucky if a dentist come up once a month when theyve ot come up once a month when theyve got space come up once a month when theyve got space and theyre not taking new patients got space and theyre not taking new patients. 50 got space and theyre not taking new atients. ,. , ~ got space and theyre not taking new atients. ,. , � ,. , got space and theyre not taking new atients. Y. , � ,. ,. ,. , patients. 50 you think its a lack of dentistry patients. 50 you think its a lack of dentistry rather patients. 50 you think its a lack of dentistry rather than patients. 50 you think its a lack of dentistry rather than a patients. 50 you think its a lack of dentistry rather than a lack. Patients. 50 you think its a lack| of dentistry rather than a lack of knowledge . It� s of dentistry rather than a lack of knowledge . Of dentistry rather than a lack of knowledge . Of dentistry rather than a lack of knowledue . � ,. ,. , knowledge . Its a bit of both but i think the knowledge . Its a bit of both but i thinkthe lack knowledge . Its a bit of both but i think the lack of knowledge . Its a bit of both but i think the lack of Dentistry Knowledge . Its a bit of both but i think the lack of dentistry is knowledge . Its a bit of both but i think the lack of dentistry is a think the lack of dentistry is a huge. Think the lack of dentistry is a huge, huge issue. Ifi think the lack of dentistry is a huge, huge issue. If i go to a family huge, huge issue. If i go to a family and huge, huge issue. If i go to a family and the parents have got bad teeth, its things like sugary drinks, teeth, its things like sugary drinks, we need to promote good habits drinks, we need to promote good habits from an early age. We need to id habits from an early age. We need to go in habits from an early age. We need to go in when habits from an early age. We need to go in when they are 6 7, if we going then its go in when they are 6 7, if we going then its a go in when they are 6 7, if we going then its a little bit too late. We need then its a little bit too late. We need to then its a little bit too late. We need to getting early. Early help intervention, having service like us, its intervention, having service like us, its really important to give that us, its really important to give that support. Do us, its really important to give that sowed us, its really important to give that suort. ,. , that support. Do some people not realise the that support. Do some people not realise the correlation that support. Do some people not realise the correlation between i realise the correlation between coca cola, and tooth decay and too much chocolate and tooth decay . Bill much chocolate and tooth decay . All that stuff . Absolutely. This is why heaith that stuff . Absolutely. This is why Health Promotion. Its an unusual thing. Health promotion. Its an unusual thing, Health Promotion nurses but we are thing, Health Promotion nurses but we are important, thats why we are so important, we need to be out there. So important, we need to be out there, getting these messages out to people there, getting these messages out to people. We have one mandatory visit before people. We have one mandatory visit before they people. We have one mandatory visit before they are 27 months and thats not quite before they are 27 months and thats not quite enough. We need to be able to get not quite enough. We need to be able to get out not quite enough. We need to be able to get out there, get these messages out there. To get out there, get these messages out there, have funding to run groups. Out there, have funding to run groups, help educate parents. Why do the need groups, help educate parents. Why do they need educating . Groups, help educate parents. Why do they need educating . Im groups, help educate parents. Why do they need educating . Im not groups, help educate parents. Why do they need educating . Im not being i they need educating . I� m not being judgmental, masking the question . Why don� t they understand that coca cola and sugary drinks will rot your teeth . Cocacola and sugary drinks will rot your teeth . Your teeth . Well, the thing is, we can all have your teeth . Well, the thing is, we can all have things your teeth . Well, the thing is, we can all have things in your teeth . Well, the thing is, we can all have things in moderationl can all have things in moderation but a can all have things in moderation but a bottle of cheap coke might be cheaper but a bottle of cheap coke might be cheaper than Buying Squash or Something Like that. We dont want to make Something Like that. We dont want to make food and drink, you know they cant to make food and drink, you know they cant have them or dont want them, they cant have them or dont want them, and they cant have them or dont want them, and we know that people really resist them, and we know that people really resist when them, and we know that people really resist when youre telling them what they can resist when youre telling them what they can and cant have. Its about getting they can and cant have. Its about getting the they can and cant have. Its about getting the message out there that things getting the message out there that things should be taken in moderation. We need to be getting out the moderation. We need to be getting out the message that things in moderation, you dont have to binge on things moderation, you dont have to binge on things. You can have something but maybe on things. You can have something but maybe not have a two litre bottle but maybe not have a two litre bottle of but maybe not have a two litre bottle of coke between a family over one night bottle of coke between a family over one night i bottle of coke between a family over one niuht. ,. ,. ,. , one night. I understand. You are doinu a one night. I understand. You are doing a great one night. I understand. You are doing a great job. One night. I understand. You are doing a great job. Youve one night. I understand. You are doing a great job. Youve given l one night. I understand. You are. Doing a great job. Youve given us one night. I understand. You are i doing a great job. Youve given us a doing a greatjob. You� ve given us a great start with your knowledge from what you do. It� s a great call. This ideas come from the labour party. We are wondering about the merit in the policy. Talking of labour, they had a famous victory last night in the by election and we are expecting Circuits Tamar to be uttering a few words this morning sir keir starmer. We still want to discuss that results. What about that call, Claire Stevens, from michelle in bournemouth . Stevens, from michelle in bournemouth . � ,. ,. , bournemouth . Its amazing that Health Visitors bournemouth . Its amazing that Health Visitors have bournemouth . Its amazing that Health Visitors have just bournemouth . Its amazing that Health Visitors have just got i bournemouth . Its amazing that Health Visitors have just got all. Bournemouth . Its amazing that | Health Visitors have just got all of this expertise. They are the trusted Health Care Professionals for these young families and i have to applaud everything that she has said. And everything that she has said. And everything the Health Visitors are doing because children� s health is everybody� s business and she� s just explained so amazingly how having that important early access can really make a difference in these children� s lives. Who; really make a difference in these childrens lives. Childrens lives. Why is it so bad now . Im childrens lives. Why is it so bad now . Im looking childrens lives. Why is it so bad now . Im looking at childrens lives. Why is it so bad now . Im looking at some i childrens lives. Why is it so bad now . Im looking at some of i childrens lives. Why is it so bad | now . Im looking at some of the now . I� m looking at some of the statistics here, the amount of children who suffering in this way. I did read this one earlier on in my eyes alighted on it again. Three in ten children have a now multi decay in england. It� s like that everywhere . It shocking. In in england. Its like that everywhere . It shocking. In england at the moment everywhere . It shocking. In england at the moment we everywhere . It shocking. In england at the moment we have everywhere . It shocking. In england at the moment we have half everywhere . It shocking. In england| at the moment we have half Children Starting School with visible tooth decay. Removing Decayed Teeth is the most common reason for a child to be admitted to hospital in england so when i say we need radical policy and we need investment in children� s oral health i do that based on the statistics day in, day out. As a consultant, i� m on the receiving end of children in the highest need. I� ve removed all 20 teeth from a two year old child. I� ve Got Ia Year Olds who have never been able to access an nhs dentist. It� s time to do things differently. That� s absolutely heartbreaking a two year old child . Run that won by me again. Twoyearold child . Run that won by me aaain. My twoyearold child . Run that won by me aaain. , � , twoyearold child . Run that won by me aaain. , � ,. ,. , me again. Nicky, thats not a oneoff me again. Nicky, thats not a oneoff. This me again. Nicky, thats not a oneoff. This is me again. Nicky, thats not a oneoff. This is a me again. Nicky, thats not a oneoff. This is a weekly i me again. Nicky, thats not a i oneoff. This is a weekly event. One off. This is a weekly event. This, as a parent, i can� t tell you the number of times i� ve had to step aside from the Operating Table because itjust aside from the Operating Table because it just feels aside from the Operating Table because itjust feels so wrong. This is a socialjustice issue and, you know, when i hear these things are too difficult, workaday of a paediatric surgeon and you will understand why it so important to make a difference to children� s oral health. Tote make a difference to childrens oral health. ~. ,. ,. ,. , health. We are going to head teacher colin watson health. We are going to head teacher colin watson. Did health. We are going to head teacher colin watson. Did you health. 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We are seeing a similar attern in front line. We are seeing a similar pattern in schools, front line. We are seeing a similar pattern in schools, to front line. We are seeing a similar pattern in schools, to be front line. We are seeing a similar pattern in schools, to be honest, | pattern in schools, to be honest, and we pattern in schools, to be honest, and we now pattern in schools, to be honest, and we now are trying to get people to brush and we now are trying to get people to brush their teeth as early as key stage to brush their teeth as early as key stage one to brush their teeth as early as key stare one. ,. ,. , stage one. How do teachers find the time to do this stage one. How do teachers find the time to do this with stage one. How do teachers find the time to do this with all stage one. How do teachers find the time to do this with all the time to do this with all the pressure they� re under . Time to do this with all the pressure theyre under . Fortunately, we had it in pressure theyre under . Fortunately, we had it in place pressure theyre under . Fortunately, we had it in place for pressure theyre under . Fortunately, we had it in place for a pressure theyre under . Fortunately, we had it in place for a few pressure theyre under . Fortunately, we had it in place for a few nears. I we had it in place for a few nears. The children we had it in place for a few nears. The children are brought in a couple of minutes the children are brought in a couple of minutes early at lunchtime and they sit of minutes early at lunchtime and they sit their children down, get their they sit their children down, get their teeth brushed from the brush bus and their teeth brushed from the brush bus and they all brush their teeth for two bus and they all brush their teeth for two minutes. Bus and they all brush their teeth for two minutes. When did you start this and what for two minutes. When did you start this and what made for two minutes. When did you start this and what made you for two minutes. When did you start this and what made you think for two minutes. When did you start this and what made you think you i for two minutes. When did you start i this and what made you think you had to . It� s this and what made you think you had to . � ,. ,. ,. , to . Its been going for five years. We were approached to . Its been going for five years. We were app