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BBCNEWS Verified July 3, 2024

Not to be so consumed by rage after the deadly attacks by hamas that it makes the same mistakes the us made after 9 11. Speaking during a Whirlwind Trip to tel aviv to show his support, he assured israel it is not alone, but said the palestinians are suffering as well. He said that from what hes been told, the explosion at the hospital his visit has been overshadowed by tuesday nights devastating explosion at a hospital in gaza city which the Health Minister says killed 471 which the Health Minister says killed a71 people. Which the Health Minister says killed 471 people. Which the Health Minister says killed 471 people. Hundreds more were wounded, killed 471 people. Hundreds more were wounded, israel killed 471 people. Hundreds more were wounded, israel has killed 471 people. Hundreds morej were wounded, israel has blamed killed 471 people. Hundreds more i were wounded, israel has blamed it on palestinian misfired rocket. Arab countries have joined on palestinian misfired rocket. Arab countries Havejoined Hamas in blaming israel from that explosion. President biden seem to agree with israel saying that it appeared to have come from quote to the other team. He said he will work with israel to prevent much tragedy from innocent civilians. The incident has led to shock waves in the region and the cancellation of a planned summit between mr biden and arab leaders. These are the scenes in the lebanese capital, beirut, where crowds gathered outside the us embassy. Over the next hour, we will look at what we know and what we dont know about the explosion at the hospital, and speak to our correspondents in the region about the response. But lets start the hour with this report from our correspondent, wyre davis. Joe biden arrived in israel this morning at one of the most dangerous points in the recent history of the region. From the us president , a very public demonstrative show of support for isreal and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu who has vowed to do what it takes to crush hamas. Mr biden� s visit has been overshadowed by what palestinian Officials Say was an Israeli Attack last night on a hospital in gaza. According to hamas, 500 people were killed including many whod already been forced to evacuate their homes and were sheltering in the now burnt out hospital grounds. As the victims were buried, more desperation for gazans and a sense increasing anger across the arab world. There were overnight protests across the west bank, jordan, lebanon, and yemen. But israel says it was not to blame. In a detailed rebuttal of the claims from gaza, israeli officials said intelligence reports pointed to a misfired missile from palestinian militants. Part of israels defence, intercepted communication between militants, said to be acknowledging what had actually happened. Israels evidence appeared persuasive enough forjoe biden. I was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital in gaza yesterday and based on what i have seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you. Mr biden also expressed concern about hostages held in gaza. They include us citizens like Hersh Goldberg polin. The 23 year old was badly wounded at a hamas attack at the Music Festival at which hundreds were killed. His mother rachel is desperate for progress. I do feel that President Biden is very much with the hostages. We have spoken to him, i have spoken to him personally and we feel that support. And i know that the israelis as well want all the hostages released. And yet there is this quagmire of time and chaos and pandemonium and we are actively at war. Joe biden� s short visit will be followed by other World Leaders many of whom also have citizens killed or abducted by hamas. But the events of the last 24 hours have made things even more perilous for people in the immediate region including the hostages being held in gaza. Wyre davies, bbc news, jerusalem. The very latest from joe biden and the white house because you saw in that report that when he had met Benjamin Netanyahu a little earlier to use that phrase, the Hospital Blast had been done by the Hospital Blast had been done by the other team. A little bit more detail in the last few seconds that is being reported, said the imagery into ships show that israel was not behind the gaza strikes. That has come from the white house, the Security Council has been tweeting the same thing. Worth just repeating that because it gives a little more detail to what we heard from joe biden on the ground that the white house is saying that imagery into intercept show that gaza was not israel was not behind that gaza blast. Biden has been speaking on that visit to israel and he warned israel to learn from americas mistakes after 911 and not to act in rage. Justice must be done but i caution this while you feel that rage, dont be consumed by it. After 9 11, we were enraged in the united states, while we sought justice were enraged in the united states, while We Soughtjustice and got justice we also made mistakes. figs justice we also made mistakes. As well as those passengers aimed in directed israel and of course, he referenced those attacks 11 days ago and saying it was the worst loss of life since the holocaust, he then went on to speak about the palestinians inside gaza and he said that the palestinians were suffering greatly because of the fighting. We greatly because of the fighting. Mourn the loss of innocent palestinian lives like the entire world, i was outraged and saddened by the enormous loss of life in the hospital in gaza. Based on the information that we have seen it appears to be the result of an errant rocket fired from gaza. United states eric with a free stand for the protection of civilian life during conflict. I grieve, i truly agree for the families who would killed and wounded by this tragedy. That was joe biden killed and wounded by this tragedy. That wasjoe biden in the last 60 minutes. What hope we been able to establish with any certainty about this attack on the hospital . 0ur Diplomatic Correspondent Caroline Hawley has been working with our colleagues at bbc verify. You can see where the hospital is located within gaza city. This footage shows to be what appears to be the Courtyard Car Park of the hospital in flames. We have been able to establish that thatis have been able to establish that that is what it is from the shape of the buildings. Now the Aljazeera Television station was broadcasting live from gaza at the time. You can see a series of Bright Lights in the air, we dont know exactly what these are. The israeli army said there was a failed Rocket Launch by there was a failed Rocket Launch by the palestinian militant group. That was followed by a big fireball. A Verification Team have looked at these images and can tell from other skyline details are illuminated by the flames that it was in the main courtyard of hospital. Next they have been looking at daylight images taken this morning, here you can see quite a lot of fire damage to the cars that most of the building surrounded it are mostly intact and standing. There is actually a relatively small crater. Now, we have shown these images to a number of Weapons Experts on what they couldnt come to a firm conclusion, several of them told us that if the explosion had been caused by the type normally used by Israeli Forces that the creator would have been bigger and there would have been more damaged buildings. 0ne bigger and there would have been more damaged buildings. One way of trying to establish what hitlers hospital by studying bomb or Missile Fragments at the scene. With our what hit this hospital. Last night we saw these images of two men searching through the crater that we show earlier. The logo on their vestas from the Palestinian Police from the explosive ordinance department, we dont know what if anything they recovered. They put out a statement saying that explosion was caused by Israeli Aerial bombing and that they have the remnants of the explosive had but they havent yet provided any evidence of this. What is in dispute is that there was what is not in dispute is that there was a very large number of casualties, mostly by people who have been sheltering in the hospital and sleeping on the grass. To establish the exact routes of what because then you need an independent investigation but that is not going to happen in what is an active war zone. Lets continue with that theme of trying to establish what has actually happened. We have the director of the research and training in Investigative Group that specialises in Fact Checking and open source intelligence. As uessing you been doing this for many years. Just tell me, in terms of many years, what material you are going through, how have you been approaching this . Through, how have you been approaching this . Through, how have you been auroachinu this . ,. , ~ approaching this . Hello. Thank you for havin approaching this . Hello. Thank you for having me approaching this . Hello. Thank you for having me on. Approaching this . 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I think anyone who is looking to material on this conflict on Different Social Media platforms, i think the best thing they can do is slow down and not share videos or pictures that they are seeing but rather slow down their consumption and social media content and ask critical questions about everything that they are seeing that they are not unwittingly sharing this information. Infer . Sharing this information. Very sensible advice. Sharing this information. Very sensible advice. Thank sharing this information. Very sensible advice. Thank you very much forjoining us. We are looking at the pictures there alongside me of joe biden climbing aboard Air Force One at the end of that trip to tel aviv in israel. We were hearing the president only a short while ago saying to reporters as he touched on every important strand of this conflict, he said that there is a deep, deep wound within israel as a result of hamass attacks. He said that he was thinking as a priority, in terms of hostage families, people left in limbo. He said that he was working with partners in the region to try and bring home loved ones. There was no higher priority, he said. And in terms of the wider conflict, he urged israel that he understood the collective trauma of the country had gone to but urged them not to act in terms of rage alone. He said that the us had done that after 911 and that mistakes had been made. When you turn to what is happening in gaza he said that the people in gaza need food, water and fuel and they are actively exploring ways to get humanitarian aid into gaza. He was even talking about that you would have to have inspections of anything that was coming across the border, he was saying that none of it must go to hamas. But talking about all of that is aid agencies on the ground. Immediately after hearing from joe biden we spoke and underlined the immediate necessity to have humanitarian pauses so that some of that aid waiting on the border can get it with so many people in desperate need. Those are some are just the latest pictures as joe biden departs from tel aviv. He was, of course, supposed to go to jordan to have a summit with arab leaders, that is immediately cancelled as a result of the Hospital Blast. There is the latest Pictures Asjoe Biden ends that trip to the middle east. Around the world and across the uk, you watching bb

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