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BBCNEWS The July 3, 2024

Representatives form israel and Palestinian Authority both had scathing remarks. Also ahead former us President Donald Trump is back in court today. Well take a look at the latest developments on two of his legal battles. Here to discuss it all, our panel tonight zoe williams columnist for the Guardian Newspaper and doug heye former Communications Director for the Republican National committee. Weve heard today from one of the two Israeli Women Released Last Night after being taken hostage by hamas. 85 year old Yocheved Lifshitz said shed been through hell. Her husband, who is 83, is still being held. Israel estimates 220 hostages are still in gaza, after being abducted in the attacks of october 7th. Hamas, which is designated a Terrorist Group by the uk, said the release was for humanitarian reasons. Meanwhile, concerns about the amount of aid reaching gaza continue. The main un agency there has warned it would stop work within 2a hours unless there were urgent deliveries of fuel. Were going to get more on both of those stories later in the show. I want to first look at diplomacy. In new york, a meeting of the un Security Council. Israels Foreign Minister has slammed the un Secretary General, Antonio Guterres, for comments made at the meeting. Mr guterres condemned the hamas attacks and said he was deeply concerned about what he described as clear violations of International Humanitarian law in gaza. He said Even War Has Rules and that the hamas attack on october seven did not take place in a vacuum. Nothing can justify the deliberate killing, injuring, and kidnapping of civilians or the launching of rockets against civilian targets. All hostages must be treated humanely and released immediately and without conditions. It is important to also recognise the attacks by hamas did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian People have been subjected to 56 years of suffocating occupation. Well, the Israeli Foreign minister was clearly not impressed with the Secretary General gutteres comments. Take a listen. These kids witnessed all which cannot be described by words. Mr Secretary General, in what world do you live . Definitely, this is not our world. Radio chatter this is a terrorist of hamas. What he said in there in arab, hes telling to his mother and father. That he is proud that he has blood of tenjewish that he murdered. L what monster they gave birth to . Secretary general, this. Is the world that we live. Foreign minister eli cohen there. In the last few hours, we have heard that he has also cancelled a planned meeting with Secretary General guterres that was scheduled for this evening. We also heard from the top Palestinian Authority diplomat. The ongoing massacres being deliberately and systematically and savagely perpetrated by israel, the occupying power, against the palestinian civilian population under its illegal occupation, must be stopped. The Security Council has a duty to stop them. The International Community is obliged, under international law, to stop them. It is our collective human duty to stop them. Now, continued failure at this council is inexcusable. Us Secretary Of State Antony Blinken was also there. The us has been clear that it stands with israel, but that israel must do everything in its power to protect civilians while carrying out its military response. He repeated that claim. 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While israel has the right, indeed i slaughter of its people. While | israel has the right, indeed the obligation to defend itself, the way it does so matters. We know hamas does not represent the Palestinian People, and Palestinian Civilians are not to blame for the carnage committed by hamas. Palestinian civilians must be protected. That means hamas must cease using them as human shields. Its hard to think of an act of greater asceticism. That means israel must take all possible precautions to avoid. Diplomatic efforts continue in the region, too. In the past week we have seen a number of World Leaders head to israel to offer support and try to de escalate the crisis. Today, it was Emmanuel Macron of france. Here he is next to israels Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. He expressed solidarity with israel saying the first objective of the war should be to free all hostages. He says it was israels duty to fight against hamas, but he warned against enlarging the conflict. Take a listen. I consider that this is an International Coalition in order to fight against this Terrorist Group that we have to deal. Ijust reminded my people in my language what we discussed about fight against terrorism, humanitarian action, rules to be respected, but as well, political process. And obviously i warned against an escalation and i warned hezbollah and some other regimes not to be part of whats happening. I know how committed you are. Let me express once again my solidarity, my friendship and the fact that france stands with you. So lets bring in our panel for the first time. Zoe williams, columnist for the Guardian Newspaper, and doug heye, former Communications Director for the Republican National committee. Good to see you both, thanks very much for being our panel. Doug, if we could start with you, that meeting there in new york still ongoing actually, but weve heard some pretty strong words there . Ladle some pretty strong words there . We have, and its clear from what secretary have, and its clear from what Secretary Blinken says there, its not Secretary Blinken says there, its noliusl Secretary Blinken says there, its Notjust The Will of Secretary Blinken says there, its not just the will of the people but a huge not just the will of the people but a huge bipartisan majority of Congress Congress doesnt seem to be much Congress Congress doesnt seem to be much democrat able to do much these be much democrat able to do much these days, be much democrat able to do much these days, which well talk about and a these days, which well talk about and a bit. These days, which well talk about and a bit, but this was one place where and a bit, but this was one place where the and a bit, but this was one place where the House Of Representatives and the where the House Of Representatives and the senate came together to stand and the senate came together to stand behind israel. Ultimately he. Oes stand behind israel. Ultimately he goes to stand behind israel. Ultimately he goes to what we heard earlier, that this didnt goes to what we heard earlier, that this didnt happen in a vacuum, which this didnt happen in a vacuum, which ultimately means what happened in isreel which ultimately means what happened in israel is which ultimately means what happened in israel is somehow israels fault, this is in israel is somehow israels fault, this is what in israel is somehow israels fault, this is what they are pushing back on. This is what they are pushing back 0h the this is what they are pushing back on. The present is correctly telling them on. The present is correctly telling them they on. The present is correctly telling them they have a right to defend themselves and exist these acts are terrorism, but you need to do so in a way are terrorism, but you need to do so in a way to are terrorism, but you need to do so in a way to minimise any civilian, and especially for children who are in palestine. It will be very hard to do in palestine. It will be very hard to do given in palestine. It will be very hard to do given how theyve enmeshed themselves, hamas has, in and around themselves, hamas has, in and around the people themselves, hamas has, in and around the people of themselves, hamas has, in and around the people of palestine. Interesting. What do you make of the diplomacy that weve been witnessing . Diplomacy that weve been witnessin . ~. , diplomacy that weve been witnessin . ~. , diplomacy that weve been witnessinu . ~. ,. Witnessing . Well, i mean there is a ve hiuh witnessing . Well, i mean there is a very high level witnessing . Well, i mean there is a very high level of witnessing . Well, i mean there is a very high level of solidarity witnessing . Well, i mean there is a very high level of solidarity with very high level of solidarity with israel from nation states, you know, as weve spoken about, the us. But also, france sorry. Late as weve spoken about, the us. But also, france sorry. As weve spoken about, the us. But also, france sorry. We will come back to you also, france sorry. We will come back to you if also, france sorry. We will come back to you if theres also, france sorry. We will come back to you if theres Something Back to you if theres something theyre distracting you. Doug, if theyre distracting you. Doug, if the communications are ok with you, lets get some thoughts now on the us� s role specifically with israel. Weve had a couple days now of reports that the Biden Administration potentially asking israel to delay any possible ground incursion, to give more time, space and priority for the hostages. No we havent heard any of those reports, but do you think thats something thatis but do you think thats something that is happening or ought to be happening . I that is happening or ought to be happening . That is happening or ought to be haueninu . ~ , happening . I think it is happening. Clearly weve happening . I think it is happening. Clearly weve not happening . I think it is happening. Clearly weve not seen happening . I think it is happening. Clearly weve not seen the happening . I think it is happening. Clearly weve not seen the full clearly weve not seen the full escalation at this point that we were escalation at this point that we were expecting will happen, but its clear that were expecting will happen, but its clear that biden has been successful thus far clear that biden has been successful thus far in clear that biden has been successful thus far in this effort. It clearly hasnt thus far in this effort. It clearly hasntiust thus far in this effort. It clearly hasntjust been the biden ministration, its been other countries, ministration, its been other countries, as well, the uk and france countries, as well, the uk and france come to mind most specifically. But we know how dangerous this can get, notjust in israel dangerous this can get, notjust in israel ahd dangerous this can get, notjust in israel and palestine, dangerous this can get, notjust in israeland palestine, but dangerous this can get, notjust in israel and palestine, but as other neighbouring countries are possibly, or terrorist neighbouring countries are possibly, or Terrorist Organisations are looking or Terrorist Organisations are looking at getting involved, lebanon bein looking at getting involved, lebanon being the looking at getting involved, lebanon being the most prominent example, we want to being the most prominent example, we want to make sure this does not escalate want to make sure this does not escalate any further than it already has. Escalate any further than it already has but escalate any further than it already has. But very clearly, israel has a right has. But very clearly, israel has a right to has. But very clearly, israel has a right to exist and defend itself. Its right to exist and defend itself. Its going right to exist and defend itself. Its going to be criticised, however it defehd its going to be criticised, however it defend itself, israel has learned that lesson. They know thats not what that lesson. They know thats not what theyll Pay Attention to in the global what theyll Pay Attention to in the global conversation, but its why its important why the us True Leadership here. So its important why the us True Leadership here. Its important why the us True Leadershi here. ,. , , leadership here. So weak, hopefully youre back leadership here. So weak, hopefully youre back with leadership here. So weak, hopefully youre back with us. Leadership here. So weak, hopefully youre back with us. I leadership here. So weak, hopefully youre back with us. Ijust leadership here. So weak, hopefully youre back with us. I just want leadership here. So weak, hopefully youre back with us. I just want to i youre back with us. I just want to get your take on the diplomacy, diplomatic efforts that weve seen today . I diplomatic efforts that weve seen toda . ~. , diplomatic efforts that weve seen toda . ,. , today . I think what we are seeing is the oint today . I think what we are seeing is the point at today . I think what we are seeing is the point at which today . I think what we are seeing is the point at which diplomatic the point at which diplomatic efforts will start to look much more combustible than they are in volume. So the row in the un today there was bound to come a point today where Antonio Guterres said, this is skating close to breaking international law. That point had to come, and it was very highly likely to come from the un. As a result of that at the moment, weve got this slight disconnect between the language and National Leaders are using, like macron and sunak, and biden, and the language of International Bodies like the un are using. Actually those Points Of View will start to harmonise because it will plainly be a case to answer about the number of civilian deaths which breached 5700 today. So the number of Palestinian Civilians that have already been killed is quite extraordinary, and to listen to aid agencies within gaza thats before the rolling crises hit of everybody running out of fuel and water, and hospitals running out of space and ability to provide shelter. Ltruleiiii ability to provide shelter. Well aet onto ability to provide shelter. Well get onto the ability to provide shelter. Well get onto the issue ability to provide shelter. Well get onto the issue of ability to provide shelter. Well get onto the issue of aid ability to provide shelter. Well get onto the issue of aid in ability to provide shelter. Well get onto the issue of aid injust a get onto the issue of aid in just a moment, thank you very much for that, thank you for your opinions on that, thank you for your opinions on that, well be back with them a little later. The images on the side of the screen are the life pictures of the screen are the life pictures of the screen are the life pictures of the un Security Council meeting in new york. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Lets look at some other stories making news. Everton chairman bill kenwright, an acclaimed West End Theatre and film producer, has died at the age of 78. He was also know for Playing Gordon Clegg in Coronation Street between 1968 and 2012. In a statement, everton said they lost a chairman, a leader, a friend and an inspiration. Threejust stop Oil Protesters have been sentenced to i2 Month Community orders after briefly interrupting play during an ashes test at lords cricket ground. 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