The conflict special. Hello. Im jackie leonard, one of the hosts of the global news podcast. And, again, weve teamed up with the Conflict Podcast to answer some of your questions about whats going on in israel and gaza. Werejoined by the host of the Conflict Podcast, lyse doucet, from jerusalem. And here in the studio is the bbc security correspondent frank gardner. So lets get on with the questions. This is camille from australia and my questions about all the aid trucks, because i knowjust before this conflict started, there was a lot of discussion about us funding and aid to ukraine, and now theres a lot of trucks amassed at the egypt border. | was this aid that was already destined to go into gaza . Cos ive also heard reports that there was aid going in already, but not as much as now. So, just a note on how Thisl Manoeuvring had happened and if one affects the other. So, lyse, if you could start with that one. Thank you very much for the question. Its very important. The. The un and other agencies tell us that before this war erupted between israel and gaza, that as many as 500 trucks a day were getting into gaza with all kinds of goods, and that includes commercial supplies as well. The United Nations on its own was sometimes 100 trucks a day, sometimes 200 trucks a day. If you compare that to now, since the trucks started rolling across the border from egypt, through the rafah crossing into southern gaza, there was only about, at the time that im speaking, about 74 trucks, which is over the past few weeks, since this siege was imposed by israel. So, that is why the un says it is a drop in an ocean of needs, and it doesnt include fuel, which were hearing from the United Nations today, means that the Aid Operations they are able to still maintain in the gaza strip are collapsing. And greg in the us also draws comparisons with ukraine. This one is for you, frank. My name is greg and i live in logan, utah. 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I told him, you fool, come with me, dont be a hero now. This is what i thought afterwards, why did i fight with him, lets leave them alone and lets run away. With him, lets leave them alone and lets run away lets run away. After 12 hours, thomas was lets run away. After 12 hours, thomas was finally lets run away. After 12 hours, thomas was finally rescued. L lets run away. After12 hours, i thomas was finally rescued. Two lets run away. After12 hours, thomas was finally rescued. Two days later he discovered what hamas had done to his daughter. Later he discovered what hamas had done to his daughter. Someone from the kibbutz rang done to his daughter. Someone from the kibbutz rang me done to his daughter. Someone from the kibbutz rang me up done to his daughter. Someone from the kibbutz rang me up and done to his daughter. Someone from the kibbutz rang me up and said, done to his daughter. Someone from the kibbutz rang me up and said, i i the kibbutz rang me up and said, i need to talk to you. I thought, here we go. Here we go. And i was relieved. The weirdest thing, for a parent to hear that their child is dead and you are relieved. I knew she wasnt in gaza, i knew she wasnt terrified out of her life, i knew she wasnt going to be. In any more pain or stress, it wasjust all overfor her. More than 100 bodies were discovered in the area and looking at the scale of destruction, it is not hard to see via. Hamas burnt, mutilated and murdered in a coordinated and targeted attack that day. I spoke to a hamas representative who is based in lebanon. Hamas killed many israeli siblings, including women and children in the most brutal way. How can this ever be justified . Israeli civilians. How can this ever be ustified . Israeli civiliansh Israeli Civilians. How do you usti Israeli Civilians. How do you justify killing Israeli Civilians. How do you justify killing the Israeli Civilians. How do you i justify killing the palestinians Israeli Civilians. How do you justify killing the palestinians for the last 75 years . The justify killing the palestinians for the last 75 years . Justify killing the palestinians for the last 75 years . The fact is, we have seen the last 75 years . The fact is, we have seen the the last 75 years . The fact is, we have seen the pictures, the last 75 years . The fact is, we have seen the pictures, i the last 75 years . The fact is, we have seen the pictures, i have i the last 75 years . The fact is, we i have seen the pictures, i have been to the places, many Israeli Civilians were killed in the most brutal manner by hamas, you cannot deny that . Brutal manner by hamas, you cannot den that . ,. , � brutal manner by hamas, you cannot den that . , , deny that . Excuse me, i dont buy that from from deny that . Excuse me, i dont buy that from you. I deny that . 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L are over and over and over again. Its very close from us. Rushdi lives with his wife and baby daughter in gaza city. H