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BBCNEWS World July 4, 2024

It examined his career, his behaviour and the way he was vetted. The metropolitan Police Service told the inquiry in 2022 that it would still have recruited him if provided with the same information. Ifind this astonishing. Now is the time for change. Without a significant overhaul, there is nothing to stop another Wayne Couzens operating In Plain Sight. The report describes how in 2004 and 2008, kent police turned down couzens� application to join but allowed him to work as a special constable. In 2011, another force, the Civil Nuclear constabulary, took him on as a full time officer, despite a recommendation that he shouldnt get through the vetting because of his heavy debts. In 2018, he successfully applied to join the metropolitan police. Here, the report found the vetting was flawed. An Indecent Exposure allegation was one of the concerns about him, which was on the system but appeared to be missed. There are no words that i can use that can adequately express to the Everard Familyjust how sorry we are across the whole of policing. I was left aghast at the catalogue of missed opportunities, errors, red flags to stop Wayne Couzens. The report describes how Wayne Couzens used his Police Powers to falsely arrest Sarah Everard on a Street In Clapham in south london during the covid lockdown in 2021. Here, Showing Sarah his warrant card and accusing her of breaching lockdown rules. Couzens then drove sarah 80 miles to kent, where he raped and strangled her. A week after sarahs disappearance, Wayne Couzens was arrested. Described as a man of diverse and deviant sexual interests, he allegedly committed a very serious Sexual Assault against a child barely in her teens before hejoined the police. At a mcdonalds drive thru, in the days before he abducted sarah, he indecently exposed himself to staff more than once. Hes also alleged to have possessed indecent images of children. The coming days will see the third anniversary of Sarah Everards death. In the report, her family welcome its recommendations. They say the loss of sarah pervades every part of their lives. June kelly, bbc news. Home secretary James Cleverly says the report is distressing but incredibly important. Tragically, the report identifies that cousins was completely unsuitable to serve as a Police Officer, and worse still, that there were multiple occasions where this should could have been recognised. Lady elish found significant and repeated problems and vetting throughout couzens� career, including overlooking his chaotic financial situation. This meant that he was able to serve in a range of privileged roles, including as a firearms officer. It is appalling that reports of Indecent Exposure by couzens were not taken sufficiently seriously by the police and that officers were not adequately trained, equipped or motivated to properly investigate those allegations. 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Secondly, there was information regarding a time in 2015, when he was reported missing. From his home. 2015, when he was reported missing. From his home 2015, when he was reported missing. From his home. Now, there have been chances from his home. Now, there have been changes since from his home. Now, there have been changes since sarah from his home. Now, there have been changes since Sarah Everards changes since Sarah Everards Murdeh Changes since Sarah Everards murder. Could he get a job as a police murder. Could he get a job as a Police Officer now . Someone like him, Police Officer now . Someone like him, because they get a job as a place him, because they get a job as a place of him, because they get a job as a place of hooker, and keep it . Olice place of hooker, and keep it . Police Officer . I would hope that the vetting in place now would be in place now, that means it should have been means it would be viewed as seriously now as it should have been at then. There is not as any other insurance that there arent other Wayne Couzens in the police force, waiting In Plain Sight. I Wayne Couzens in the police force, waiting In Plain Sight. Waiting In Plain Sight. I want to ask about waiting In Plain Sight. I want to ask about that, waiting In Plain Sight. I want to ask about that, because waiting In Plain Sight. I want to ask about that, because there | waiting In Plain Sight. I want to l ask about that, because there is waiting In Plain Sight. I want to ask about that, because there is an arresting ask about that, because there is an arresting insights that you make. Two not arresting insights that you make. Two not have any other Couzens Operating two not have any other Couzens Operating In Plain Sight. Has not already operating In Plain Sight. Has not already been another overhaul . Yes, there has not already been another overhaul . Yes, there has not been already been another overhaul . Yes, there has not been a already been another overhaul . Is there has not been a significant overhaul, the recommendations i made needs to be invented. The Vetting Systems are still not sufficiently thorough and sufficient for what we are giving it to these people. We rely on a Police Officer is to be good people, to protect us. It is a challenging and difficult role. It is also a great privilege. To do that, they had to surrender certain things, which other citizens dont, and are not subjecting themselves, for example coup for great information for that has to be done to make sure we are not endangered by having the wrong people in that role. And therefore, it has to be and much more vigorous process of vetting that is required. That is what i recommend. The vetting that is required. That is what i recommend. The response so far from the what i recommend. The response so far from the government, what i recommend. The response so far from the government, the what i recommend. The response so. Far from the government, the shadow home far from the government, the shadow home secretary, yvette cooper, has accused home secretary, yvette cooper, has accused James Cleverly of a response that is accused James Cleverly of a response that is too accused James Cleverly of a response that is too weak, too little, too late that is too weak, too little, too late what that is too weak, too little, too late. What is your view . He has only had today to late. What is your view . He has only had today to consider it, late. What is your view . He has only had today to consider it, but late. What is your view . He has only had today to consider it, but i late. What is your view . He has only had today to consider it, but i do had today to consider it, but i do hope that the government will take very seriously the regulations i make and implement them. And do so as soon as possible. And make and implement them. And do so as soon as possible. As soon as possible. 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Therefore, if you are in the cliff are more than ten years or so, i think it should be reverted. How things are now. It should be something that is not predictable, random vetting which can happen more than once in your career. Earlier, zoe billingham, former hm inspector of constabulary, shared her reaction on the initial findings. Already, the new ish commissioner, he has been in place for over 18 months, he has made it an absolute pledge on his appointment that he will root out predatory offices. We see that manifesting itself in at three Police Officers a week, a week being in our courts, because of the infrastructure that is being put in place to make sure that officers who have got a history of sexual offending, who has other proclivities that mean there is no place for them in policing, are being identified, are being brought tojustice, are going through being identified, are being brought to justice, are going through the Police Disciplinary process, although it is a slow, clunky process, and are being removed from policing and taking away from the front line. That has to happen, doesnt it, because without that happening, women in london in particular are not going to trust the police. That has catastrophic consequences, it will mean that the public dont come forward to the police, when they are either victims or witnesses. There is a danger that the whole fabric of Law And Order could break down. Until we put people through measures in policing, that you would expect in a most normal walks of life, until we are checking on peoples background, looking at their social media, doing face to face interviews, in order to do appointmentjobs, when we undertake vetting, making sure that we visit Police Officers homes. For goodness sake, if you were adopting a stray puppy, people come and visit your home. The idea that someone would come and check you out if you are about to become a Police Officer, with all of the powers, that that entails, it is unthinkable. As i say, Police Leaders in england and wales have absolutely no option but to respond rapidly and at pace to these fairly straight recommendations that will cost additional money, but are absolutely necessary if we are to restore public trust in policing right now. And lets hearfrom parm sandhu, former Chief Superintendent and author. She told my colleague meghan 0wen that she welcomes the report but still has frustrations. This is not the first report. We had the game met louise report, which was published in march last year. We had a hmrc report, published in november, 2022. Even with this brand new report, with right honourable lady one, there is actually nothing that is new in there. It is repeating the recommendations and im really frustrated by the lack of actions that have been taken. Elish angiolini. Im really concerned that there are people out there who need help, he will hesitate about picking up help, he will hesitate about picking up the phone and asking for that help when they need it. Taste up the phone and asking for that help when they need it. We know only that the home help when they need it. We know only that the home secretary help when they need it. We know only that the home secretary said help when they need it. We know only that the home secretary said that that the home secretary said that the government will take action on this report the government will take action on this report. We also heard from the met commissioner, who describes the finding. Met commissioner, who describes the finding. Is met commissioner, who describes the finding, is an urgent call to action. Finding, is an urgent call to action, for all of us in policing. How action, for all of us in policing. How confident are you that change will happen . How confident are you that change will happen . How confident are you that change will ha en . ,. ,. ,. , will happen . Change has to happen to rebuild the trust will happen . Change has to happen to rebuild the trust and will happen . Change has to happen to rebuild the trust and confidence rebuild the trust and confidence that has been lost in policing. The only weather that is going to happen is about looking at that vetting, by looking at the very vetting of offices and recruitment, but also about creating a safe environment for the members of the public, and for the members of the public, and for them to r

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