To the government in 2020 2022. Good to see you, thank you for coming onto the programme. Rishi sunak has made this as flagship policy, it has dominated politics for much of this year. Why is it so important to him . For much of this year. Why is it so important to him . Ultimately, this is about stepping important to him . Ultimately, this is about stopping the important to him . Ultimately, this is about stopping the boats. Important to him . Ultimately, this is about stopping the boats. If important to him . Ultimately, this is about stopping the boats. If we | is about stopping the boats. If we could look back even just ten years, the idea that 30,000 to 50,000 people were crossing the channel every year, that we have lost control of the borders, would seem incredible. We note is an issue that many of the public feel strongly about, and that is what this is about, and that is what this is about, stopping the boats by deterring people from making that Channel Crossing in the first place. 0bviously, last nights parliamentary conclusion was a triumph of the Prime Minister, but it is only the beginning. There are going to be considerable battles ahead for him before those planes take off. , ,. , take off. You published a paper, our take off. You published a paper, your organisation, take off. You published a paper, your organisation, on take off. You published a paper, your organisation, on the take off. You published a paper, your organisation, on the safety| take off. You published a paper, l your organisation, on the safety of the bill. In the past arrive so, we have heard from two top un officials saying that the policy will have a harmful impact on refugee protection and human rights around the world. What is your reaction to that . My reaction what is your reaction to that . M reaction to what is your reaction to that . M reaction to that what is your reaction to that . M; reaction to that is that the uk as a sovereign nation and it is for our parliament to make those decisions. At the end of the day, france is a safe country, nobody is being persecuted in france, and therefore those who choose to cross the channel illegally are leaving from a safe country to get here. So, it is absolutely right and how we look at putting a stop to those troubles, and we saw the news you read out a couple of minutes ago about the terrible human costs of allowing those crossings to continue. [30 terrible human costs of allowing those crossings to continue. Do you believe it will those crossings to continue. Do you believe it will have those crossings to continue. Do you believe it will have a those crossings to continue. Do you believe it will have a deterrent believe it will have a Deterrent Effect . We are watching people get on those boats, and savvy people losing their lives trying to head to the uk in these books sadly, people losing their lives. This is the , i, i, people losing their lives. This is the i, i, the question, you will not see a Deterrent Effect the question, you will not see a Deterrent Effect until the question, you will not see a Deterrent Effect until the the question, you will not see a Deterrent Effect until the first i Deterrent Effect until the first plane takes off. As a nation, we have been arguing and debating about this policy for two years now, so if i were sitting in france and considering crossing the channel, i wouldnt believe it would happen until i actually saw it. I would think, and i think the Prime Minister and his team will acknowledge this, it will take more than one plane, a drumbeat of planes leaving. Ultimately, the proof of the pudding will be any in the eating, and the measure of success will not be how many people get sent to rwanda, but ultimately do we see a significant drop in the number of people crossing the channel . That is ultimately about human psychology, human behaviour, which is very hard to predict. 0f human behaviour, which is very hard to predict. Of course, it will depend on what likelihood does a person think who is crossing the channel in october or november, think that they personally will be sent to rwanda . That will be the real test of this policy. As i say, a real triumph of the Prime Minister lastly, but a lot of tests still to come. ~ i, lastly, but a lot of tests still to come, ~ i, i,i, lastly, but a lot of tests still to come. ~ i, i, i, come. What about the cost of this . The national come. What about the cost of this . The National Audit come. What about the cost of this . The National Audit office come. What about the cost of this . The National Audit office puts come. What about the cost of this . The National Audit office puts the i the National Audit office puts the cost at sending the first 300 people to rwanda at £2 million per person. How can the governmentjustify that . The real cost is not stopping the boats. It was published last year a calculation that said we are spending £3 billion a year on hotels and education and other services and payments to those who had crossed the channel illegally. Failing to control our border is costing billions of pounds a year, coming out of our overseas Development Budget which could be much better spent. If it succeeds in stopping the boats, it will be money well spent. It all hinges on that fact. Will it deliver . Spent. It all hinges on that fact. Will it deliver . I, ~ , i, i will it deliver . Thank you very much for our will it deliver . Thank you very much for yourtime a furious row has erupted between elon musk and the Australian Government over access to footage that shows a stabbing in a Church In Sydney Last week. An Australian Court has ordered mr musk� s Social Media Platform, x, to take down the video across the world, not just in australia. Mr musk is challenging the ruling. He said the decision meant that any single country could control what was posted on the entire internet. Australias Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, called mr musk an arrogant billionaire who thinks hes Above The Law. We will do what is necessary to take on this arrogant billionaire who thinks he is Above The Law but also above, dc. What the Safety Commission is doing is herjob to protect the interests of australians. Above common decency. The idea that someone would go to court for the right to put up vibrant content on a platform shows how out of touch mr musk is. Violent content. Social media needs to have response ability. Mr musk is not showing any. To have response ability. Mr musk is not showing any not showing any. What has elon musks reaction not showing any. What has elon musks reaction been . Not showing any. What has elon musks reaction been . He not showing any. What has elon musks reaction been . He has l not showing any. What has elon musks reaction been . He has posted a meme accusing musks reaction been . He has posted a meme accusing the musks reaction been . He has posted a meme accusing the australian a meme accusing the Australian Government of censorship. He says these global take down orders, as he has described them, that australia has described them, that Australia Hasissued has described them, that australia has issued threatened free speech everywhere. This really does begin to test the reach of australian laws beyond the shores of this country. The australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese, is adamant that this footage must not be available and must be taken down. This row concerns very graphic and confronting video of a Stabbing Attack at a Church In Sydney a week ago. The authorities are worried that the sort of footage could inflame tensions between religious communities in this country, given that the authorities here have declared that Stabbing Attack a week ago religiously motivated incident. What is the legality, what is the Legal Process that will follow . Aha, Legal Process that will follow . Court on monday here in australia said that x, the Social Media Platform owned by elon musk must remove this content. At the time, ex said it would comply pending a legal challenge, that in the meantime, the row between both sides is continuing. Elon musk are saying this is an issue of freedom of speech, and freedom of the internet, and not only have the australian Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese e, making remarks about elon musk, a senator in canberra has described him as a narcissistic cowboy. Certainly, it is our row that looks like it will intensify in the coming days and weeks. An extreme form of soil erosion is causing entire communities to disappear across africa and latin america. Experts have told the bbc that Gully Erosion is advancing at a worrying speed thanks to deforestation and the extreme weather caused by Climate Change and a lack of urban planning. 0ur Population correspondent Stephanie Hegarty has this report from two cities living on the edge. This city in brazil is at risk of falling apart. Translation this thing has taken away my life. L joao batista is a mechanic and his workshop is on the edge of a giant ravine. Translation it got risky after it started raining when the gullies started to grow. Our whole house would collapse. Boom. These ravines are caused by Gully Erosion. Translation my belongings, my house, its all gone. I only saved my children and my wife. In total, 60 people were killed when their homes collapsed into a gully here in kinshasa, in the Democratic Republic Of Congo in 2022. Translation my neighbour who was on the other side, l she died with her four children. Brigitte blames the construction of a highway uphill. Translation they built very tiny drains. They couldnt cope with the amount of rainwater, and it overflowed. Ive spent 19 years here, and nothing like this has ever happened. Buriticupu is in the brazilian amazon, but since the � 90s, the Timber Industry has cut down most of the trees a natural barrier to erosion. And when rainwater hits the bare ground, it can dislodge soil. Streams of water then push this soil downhill, carving gullies into the earth that develop into these huge canyons. Climate change is expected to make this problem worse. The rainfall intensities may increase with 10 to 15 , and due to that, Gully Erosion rates may double or even triple. So for sure, this is a man made disaster in many ways, but with proper infrastructure, this can be prevented. Stopping gullies after they form is expensive. The brazilian government is considering a 60 million proposal for structural works in buriticupu. Meanwhile, joao batista is trying to solve the problem by himself. Translation if i dont take action, the rain when it comes will take everything. After i started planting the bamboo there, the ground no longer fell. Stephanie hegarty, bbc news in buriticupu, brazil. Around the world and across the uk this is bbc news. Here in the uk, a long awaited report into the use of infected blood in the nhs is due to be published in just under four weeks. Around 30,000 people were infected with hiv and hepatitis in the 1970s and � 80s after being given unsafe blood products. 3,000 of them of have since died. Fiona lamdin has more. Good morning, sir. Merry christmas to you. All right . Ive got a stomachache. Youve got a stomachache . He knew, he knew. Yeah, he knew he was dying. He used to say im frightened. He was scared. As a baby, lee was diagnosed with haemophilia, a rare genetic condition where the blood doesnt clot properly. To help control his bleeding, when he was two, he was treated with a blood product called factor viii, which had been collected from a large number of donors. We went for a routine checkup and we went in to see the consultant. And he told us that lee was infected with hiv. And then he was gone. He walked out the door. They were left completely on their own to deal with this devastating news. But then when he started school, things got even worse. I had a phone call one morning from the headmistress to say that there was press at the school and, obviously, the parents had been told and they didnt want him in the school. There were two teachers that didnt want to teach him. They used to stand away from me at the gate. Lee wasnt invited to Birthday Parties or, out of school hours, no playing with anybody. He was sort of like a little leper. They were forced to move away and start a new life in cornwall. And even though they didnt tell anyone lee had hiv, things were very hard. We werent the people we should have been. We were the people we were made to be, because thats how our life was. We lied. And how do you tell people afterwards that we lied to them all . By the age of nine, lee had developed aids and he was very ill. He had days when he used to say, i cant hear you. I cant see anything. And he used to sit there and say he was frightened. He couldnt eat. This was lees last christmas, taken three weeks before he died. He wasjust ten. We were given ten days, and he wanted to go to the beach. We wrapped him up and took him down to see the sea. And then he died on the eighth day. Rob was also ten when, in 1971 he was given a Blood Transfusion after an operation to remove his appendix. Every day, i was having more and more bloods and that went on for maybe two months or so. It wasjust nonstop. Id have three, sometimes four drips coming into me at any one time. For many years after, rob used a wheelchair and was always exhausted. It wasnt until three decades later he was finally diagnosed. My doctor phoned me. I need to see you urgently. He then said, im sorry to say, but youve got hep c. This is about that specific type. Rob tracked down his old records and discovered he was one of the thousands whod been given contaminated blood in a transfusion. That was the bottle of blood that gave me hepatitis. So that was the day that i was given hepatitis. Wow. His doctors knew at the time, but didnt tell him. There is no doubt he has a viral hepatitis, probably transmitted by blood or plasma, transfusions. It was there in black and white. From 197a. Dated from september 1974, they knew then. And the moment you saw it, you read it and you thought, oh, my goodness, they knew all the time. What was that like . Itjust overwhelmed me, and i was physically sick. Ijust, couldnt believe that someone, a business, the nhs, had wilfully hidden all this information from me, but no one told me. Thats why i feel really bitter about that. Really bitter. Rob has since had brutal treatment for hepatitis c and has been left with irreversible liver damage. You know, youve got to remember, hes a little boy and hes been through all this because somebody gave him two viruses. And to watch him suffer, no child should go through that. What would justice look like now . He should be recognised and they should now pay for the life that hes lost. Lees family, like so many others, have never received any compensation. 0n certain days, you always wonder and you wish he was here. You know, birthdays. First girlfriend, car. Learning to drive. Hes not part of being there with us, celebrating, you know . And he should be. Fiona lamdin, bbc news. A student who has Cerebral Palsy and relies on a Communication Device to speak has found a new voice after a two year search. Daniel challis was fed up with sounding like a robot and decided to search for someone from his local area walsall to record a spoken vocabulary for him. Hes been talking with our Midlands Correspondent navtej johal. Midlands accent when i chose my. Voice, i know what voice i like. Voice, i knew what voice i liked. Dan will happily admit that he loves the sound of his own voice. But you cant blame him, especially as its not technically his own voice. Dan was diagnosed with Cerebral Palsy when he was a toddler, and has never been able to speak in his own voice. Since he was nine years old, hes used a tablet like device to communicate, which he controls with his eyes, and sounds like this. Generic robotic voice this is my old voice. Its a robot voice. But two years ago, he set out on a mission to replace the robotic drawl and find someone with a walsall accent like his family, whose voice he could use as his own. Midlands accent i wanted my voice because i want to talk to my friends i in my familys accent. A social media and Bbc Local Radio Appeal led him to eli from walsall. Thats good. The she wolf had developed a ferocious temper. With the help of dans specialist college, where he also lives, eli recorded three and a half thousand words from new york where hes studying drama. I think it sounds more like us now, doesnt it . And this was the moment his mum heard her sons new voice for the first time. Emotional. When his dad heard him as well, he was like, oh, he sounds like me now. You can hear him. I was going to say, thats his voice there. Thats him in the background, yeah. Does he ever stop talking now . No, you wouldnt ever get him quiet now and dan had a special message for the person who gave him his voice. I feel happy, and