Families have told him over the years that they want because they want in this sense of accountability, that someone was listening. You talk about the politics of it, in the report he talks about a successive governments and their failures. Talks about a successive governments and theirfailures. That talks about a successive governments and their failures. That is governments of both colours, conservative and labour governments over the years who have made mistakes, who have may missed risks, not paid attention to the risks and as he said, in some cases, have covered up some of the things that happened. Qm. Covered up some of the things that ha ened. , happened. 0k, ellie price, for the moment, happened. Ok, ellie price, for the moment, thank happened. 0k, ellie price, for the moment, thank you happened. 0k, ellie price, for the moment, thank you very happened. 0k, ellie price, for the moment, thank you very much. I talking about apologies, the Scottish Public Health minister has apologised to the victims. In a statement, she said on behalf of the scottish government, i reiterate our sincere apology to those who have been infected or affected by nhs blood or Blood Products will stop the scottish garment already accepted the moral case for compensation for infected blood victims and is committed to working with the uk government to ensure any Compensation Scheme works for victims. She adds that the covenant has set up an Oversight Group including senior staff from nhs boards and charities representing those affected to consider the inquiry� s recommendations for scotland. This is a uk wide issue. Well, the Public Inquiry has looked over more than 50 years of government decision making, saying there has been an Institutional Defensiveness by the nhs and government which has compounded the harms that have been done. Earlier, we spoke to sarah westoby, solicitors at leigh day who has who hundreds of clients affected by the infected blood scandal. Lets have a listen to what she had to say. Lets have a listen to what she had to sa. ~. ,. , ;; lets have a listen to what she had to sa. ~. ,. , g; i . , lets have a listen to what she had tosa. ~. ,. ,~, . , to say. Well, for our 300 or so clients that to say. Well, for our 300 or so clients that we to say. Well, for our 300 or so clients that we represent to say. Well, for our 300 or so clients that we represent in. To say. Well, for our 300 or sol clients that we represent in this inquiry, we welcome the report and an absolute vindication for years of struggling to be heard, get to the truth and constantly being pushed back. It is a Fight Forjustice that has gone on for four decades, five now, and what the report finds is what it calls a litany of failures at individual, collective, systemic levels. As you said, largely avoidable and together, the chair of the inquiry, sir Brian Langstaff, because those failures amounting to a calamity. So, really strongly worded and that is welcomed as vindication for our clients who have fought for so long. You vindication for our clients who have fought for so long. Fought for so long. You said of the word calamity. Fought for so long. You said of the word calamity, use fought for so long. You said of the word calamity, use of fought for so long. You said of the word calamity, use of the fought for so long. You said of the word calamity, use of the word word calamity, use of the word largely avoidable, it really does beg the question how did it get to a point where it was able to continue, this treatment, even though people were speaking up and saying in letters as far back as the early 19805 that letters as far back as the early 1980s that this should stop . I think eole 1980s that this should stop . I think peeple werent 1980s that this should stop . I think people werent listened 1980s that this should stop . I think people werent listened to 1980s that this should stop . I think people werent listened to and 1980s that this should stop . I think people werent listened to and that | people werent listened to and that is why this is so important today for our clients because they feel they have been heard by sir brian and his report and the report uses words like inaccurate, misleading, and defensive lines to take by the authorities which it calls cruel and thatis authorities which it calls cruel and that is the wording. Cruel lines to take. It is so important to hear because that is the reason why it has taken so long, decades and decades, to get today because people havent been heard and they havent been believed when i think what we know now is that this wasnt right, what was happening. It wasnt right. You sat through this inquiry, it has lasted a number of years, what would you say where the most compelling testimony is that really evidence what we heard from sir brian today . It is very difficult to pick out any testimonies because each clients story is unique and uniquely devastating and i dont think i will everforget devastating and i dont think i will ever forget the clients� stories devastating and i don� t think i will ever forget the clients� stories i have been told, the other stories i have been told, the other stories i have heard throughout which i brought people to tears. The stories of the devastation in terms of people� s physical and mental health, the effects on their lives, their work, education, relationships and at the stigma of these deadly viruses are. At the stigma of these deadly viruses are. ,. ,. , viruses are. There is so much to take away viruses are. There is so much to take away from viruses are. There is so much to take away from that viruses are. There is so much to take away from that and viruses are. There is so much to take away from that and many l viruses are. There is so much to | take away from that and many of viruses are. There is so much to take away from that and many of our viewers will just take away from that and many of our viewers willjust be tuning in who won� t know what the main headlines of it are. Of course, we will go through those and they are available as well on the bbc news website and we will continue to recap them but one of the takeaway is that really struck me when i was talking to our Health Editor hugh pym was the fact that this report says that there was a deliberate destruction of documents. Documents that might have actually helped uncover this a lot sooner. � ~. , actually helped uncover this a lot sooner. � ~. , actually helped uncover this a lot sooner. � ~. ,. , sooner. And i think that is really important sooner. And i think that is really important for sooner. And i think that is really important for our sooner. And i think that is really important for our clients sooner. And i think that is really important for our clients to sooner. And i think that is really important for our clients to hearj important for our clients to hear because it is such an important point which is made in the report. The problem with it taking so long to get to this Public Inquiry is documents have been destroyed, we now know that, documents have been lost. We haven� t been able to hear from individuals because they are no longer around to give testimony to the inquiry, nevertheless sir brian saysin the inquiry, nevertheless sir brian says in the report he has still been able to come to the conclusions he has which is a very good result for our clients. Has which is a very good result for our clients has which is a very good result for our clients. ,. ,. , our clients. So, when you hear is in that a news our clients. So, when you hear is in that a News Conference our clients. So, when you hear is in that a News Conference just our clients. So, when you hear is in that a News Conference just now,. That a News Conference just now, sarah, campaigners, Family Members are saying it was a cover up, do you say that those words are fair . In terms of the report saying that the authorities gave inaccurate lines, misleading lines and were very defensive over the decades, yes, it does sound as if that is right. And does sound as if that is right. And would ou does sound as if that is right. And would you say does sound as if that is right. And would you say that is the most shocking part about this . Given that we knew this was happening and people fought for this to come to this stage of the inquiry, is that the biggest takeaway from you . I think so. People need to be heard. They have wanted to be heard but they have been silenced. It is really hard to fight for justice when you have been silenced but they haven� t given up and today really is a vindication of that fight. And a vindication of that fight. And what of these a vindication of that fight. And what of these suggestions and recommendations from. Apologies to our viewers, recommendations from. Apologies to ourviewers, It Recommendations from. Apologies to our viewers, it is a bit noisy. Wait for the ambulance to pass. Sarah, what would you say the lessons we can that sir brian now proposes to avoid Something Like this happening again . Avoid Something Like this happening auain . ~. , again . Well, we have 12 recommendations again . Well, we have 12 recommendations which again . Well, we have 12 recommendations which are set again . Well, we have 12 recommendations which are set out in full in the report and i won� t go through them all now. We have some really good recommendations on Patient Safety and candour which is testament to our clients� commitment to trying to ensure this never happens again and then we are also looking at number one, compensation without further delay, in sir brian� s report. Lifelong care and treatment for people who have been infected which is so good and important to hear for our clients and, as i said, candourand he recommends extending the duty of candour to Government Officials and nhs leaders which we really welcome on the back of our clients as well. That would have helped ensure this couldn� t have gone on for so long with that being sorted out. To couldnt have gone on for so long with that being sorted out. With that being sorted out. To be heard in that with that being sorted out. To be heard in that a with that being sorted out. To be heard in that a news with that being sorted out. To be heard in that a News Conference l heard in that a News Conference there that some people were saying that although the remit wasn� t for prosecutions, you had some people saying they they felt doctors who were involved at the time, although many may have been long retired by now, they felt they should be prosecuted for manslaughter. From a legal point of view, where does this go if at all anywhere . Titer . Go if at all anywhere . Very difficult to go if at all anywhere . Very difficult to comment go if at all anywhere . Very difficult to comment on go if at all anywhere . Very| difficult to comment on that go if at all anywhere . Very i difficult to comment on that i go if at all anywhere . Difficult to comment on that i think it will be for the Prosecutorial Authority is to review and see where that goes. find authority is to review and see where that noes. � ,. ,. , authority is to review and see where that noes. � i. , i. That goes. And will you or your client to be that goes. And will you or your client to be taking that goes. And will you or your client to be taking any that goes. And will you or your client to be taking any furtherl client to be taking any further cases now . We client to be taking any further cases now . Client to be taking any further cases now . ~ ,. ,. , ~. , cases now . We will be looking to see what the government cases now . We will be looking to see what the government say cases now . We will be looking to see what the government say in cases now . We will be looking to see| what the government say in response. We will be looking to see if they implement the recommendations. We are really pleased to see there is an ongoing monitoring role by the chair in parliamentary scrutiny to see that the recommendations are acted upon so we will be listening and watching really carefully to see if that happens and if not, taking any necessary action. And if that happens and if not, taking any necessary action. Any necessary action. And briefly before we let any necessary action. And briefly before we let you any necessary action. And briefly before we let you go, any necessary action. And briefly before we let you go, would any necessary action. And briefly before we let you go, would you | any necessary action. And briefly before we let you go, would you like the Prime Minister to say sorry . I think an apology is really important. I don� t think there has been a full apology. What sir brian saysin been a full apology. What sir brian says in his report is that an apology can� t just says in his report is that an apology can� tjust be a simple, we are sorry for the suffering, but it has to be meaningful and set out exactly what is being apologised for. The wrongs, the errors, the denials, the delay. find for. The wrongs, the errors, the denials, the delay. For. The wrongs, the errors, the denials, the delay. And in terms of this, this is denials, the delay. And in terms of this, this is not denials, the delay. And in terms of this, this is notjust denials, the delay. And in terms of this, this is notjust a denials, the delay. And in terms of this, this is notjust a party this, this is notjust a Party Political story, this, this is notjust a Party Politicalstory, it this, this is notjust a Party Political story, it almost involves all parties in the uk because this goes over so many different administrations and governments, doesn� t it . It administrations and governments, doesnt it . ,. Administrations and governments, doesnt it . ,. , administrations and governments, doesnt it . ,. , doesnt it . It does and it has gone across consecutive doesnt it . It does and it has gone across consecutive governments i doesnt it . It does and it has gone l across consecutive governments for many years now and i think yesterday we heard from both main parties that they would be listening to the criticisms made of them in the final report so i� m hopeful that is the way this will continue. Report so im hopeful that is the way this will continue. Report so im hopeful that is the way this will continue. Thank you so much, way this will continue. Thank you so much. Sarah way this will continue. Thank you so much, sarah westoby, way this will continue. Thank you so j much, sarah westoby, representing around 300 clients and many of them here today . Around 300 clients and many of them here toda . , , around 300 clients and many of Them Heretoda . , around 300 clients and many of them here today . Here today . Yes, it is very busy and it is a lot to here today . Yes, it is very busy and it is a lot to digester here today . Yes, it is very busy and it is a lot to digester in here today . Yes, it is very busy and it is a lot to digester in this it is a lot to digester in this report but i think it is bittersweet for many of them. Bittersweet. It is too late for some. Bittersweet as sarah says there and of course this is all about notjust justice but remembering. Remembering all of those who lost their lives in something which the inquiry said could have been avoidable. Let� s have a listen back in to that service that is continuing at the moment. � ,. , moment. And listen to their testimony moment. And listen to their testimony. This moment. And listen to their testimony. This inquiry moment. And listen to their testimony. This inquiry putl moment. And listen to their. Testimony. This inquiry put the infected and the affected in the best seats so that they could see, hear and be moved by the testimony of those who have suffered and see, hear and judge those responsible for that suffering. Applause by applause by putting the unprotected first, suddenly, finally, after all these years, it became possible to interrogate power. And sir brian won� t like this one bit because he doesn� t want today to be about him and because he is so modest, but frankly tough, he is not going to stop us from thanking him. Cheering and applause for his humility, care and precision with the language. The integrity of his listening. Emotional intelligence. Deep sense of fairness. And for being frightened of no one. Applause we are and will always be profoundly grateful. Applause he has shown how the administration of justice he has shown how the administration ofjustice can be done. Half a century since this scandal began, the spirit is undiminished. We are farfewer the spirit is undiminished. We are far fewer than the spirit is undiminished. We are farfewer than we were the spirit is undiminished. We are far fewer than we were but those we have lost are now heard because we will make sure that they are and because we have the support of this document. History will know the strength and resolve of a people who have suffered pain and terror and shame and still stand fighting. Applause perhaps there is no complete answer to alan� s question. But though its tone is rhetorical, its content is not. It contains within it a deep longing that demands and deserves the most serious response and will not tolerate silence or inaction. Applause this report, our report, brings us a giant step closer to justice. This is our story. Let us go out from this Place Holding it high and holding by the hand of those we have lost and spread the word. Let there be no doubt, justice will be ours and justice is coming. 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