You were there yesterday and, david, you were there as well. How was it being there, being surrounded by so many other people who have been through similar experiences to you . It was very surreal and i am still trying to take it all in because for the first time we heard the truth being pronounced in such clarity and it was damning. We knew it was going to be damning but to hear it and to be there with some of the others, but we were also so aware of so many that couldnt be there because they were either too ill or had already passed away, so it was a very poignant day, very powerful and we are extremely thankful for the work of the inquiry. Are extremely thankful for the work of the inquiry of the inquiry. David, coming to ou, of the inquiry. David, coming to you. Your of the inquiry. David, coming to you, your father of the inquiry. David, coming to you, your father of of the inquiry. David, coming to you, your father of course of the inquiry. David, coming to j you, your father of course could of the inquiry. David, coming to you, your father of course could not be there like so many others, as roger was saying. How was it for you as an Effective Member of the family . I as an Effective Member of the famil . , , as an Effective Member of the famil . ,. ,. , family . I have always been alone, it has alwa s family . I have always been alone, it has always been family . I have always been alone, it has always been myself family . I have always been alone, it has always been myself as family . I have always been alone, it has always been myself as my family . I have always been alone, it l has always been myself as my mother and the has always been myself as my mother and the family altogether as a group and the family altogether as a group and we and the family altogether as a group and we never talked this. We never faced and we never talked this. We never faced this and we never talked this. We never faced this day with so much emotion with people being in the same position with people being in the same position and just being brought to life with position and just being brought to life with all these feelings we have had over life with all these feelings we have had over the past 30 years and it was emotional. It felt as if you were was emotional. It felt as if you were hot was emotional. It felt as if you were not alone. The people around you were were not alone. The people around you were going through the exact same you were going through the exact same thing, so there was a massive release same thing, so there was a massive release that same thing, so there was a massive release that i felt yesterday. I was numb release that i felt yesterday. I was numb but release that i felt yesterday. I was numb but after the event it really brought numb but after the event it really brought to light that you should be able to brought to light that you should be able to talk about what you have experienced, to learn from what you have experienced as well. And experienced, to learn from what you have experienced as well. Have experienced as well. And like so many others have experienced as well. And like so many others who have experienced as well. And like so many others who have have experienced as well. And like so many others who have talked i have experienced as well. And like so many others who have talked about the fact that you couldnt talk about it, you were told not to tell anyone about this. Now that it is so public, it is in such a global stage what happens, do you feel vindicated in a way . I what happens, do you feel vindicated in a wa . ,. , what happens, do you feel vindicated inawa . ,. , in a way . I do, i really do, because it is an opportunity in a way . I do, i really do, because it is an opportunity for in a way . I do, i really do, because it is an opportunity for me in a way . I do, i really do, because it is an opportunity for me to it is an opportunity for me to actually it is an opportunity for me to actually Say Something and be a part of people actually Say Something and be a part of people that have gone through the experience and dont be ashamed. Dont experience and dont be ashamed. Dont be experience and dont be ashamed. Dont be ashamed of what we have gone dont be ashamed of what we have gone through or what i have gone through gone through or what i have gone through as gone through or what i have gone through as a family, just be open. Roger, through as a family, just be open. Roger, the through as a family, just be open. Roger, the same question to you. Your story is so shocking it is hard to believe that at the age of around eight or nine you were given factor eight or nine you were given factor eight as a haemophiliac and this was supposed to help you and actually infected you with hepatitis c and hiv and at one point you were told he had a couple of years to live. Yes, when i was about 15 or 16 my doctor told my mum over the phone that not only me but my brother as well were hiv positive and then later on he said you have probably got about a couple of years, that is all we know at the moment. It soon became apparent that other haemophiliacs around were starting to get ill and then several years later he said i have also got hepatitis c. I had already had hepatitis c. I had already had hepatitis b during school and was already then told i must not share any cutlery or drinks, so i already felt dirty in some way and it was something to keep secret. Then hepatitis c, the treatment for that was really shocking and i was very ill with that. And then finally when i thought everything was better i was told that i was exposed to variant cjd and somebody who had donated blood in the uk later died of what was called Mad Cow Disease Backin of what was called Mad Cow Disease back in the day and every time i have to have a procedure i have to tell the Clinical Team or dentist and that causes complications sometimes with treatment. Yes, it was like one thing after the other. So your entire life pretty much has been overshadowed by this. We are waiting to hear about compensation today. How can you possibly be compensated for that . Today. How can you possibly be compensated for that . Yes, i mean, money will compensated for that . Yes, i mean, money will never compensated for that . Yes, i mean, money will never compensate compensated for that . Yes, i mean, money will never compensate for compensated for that . Yes, i mean, | money will never compensate for the damage that has been done and for the loss and the trauma. I am still having therapy right now. I need to still process things right now and with the inquiry that has brought to light a lot of pain. But it is not possible, but at the same time i want to know that there is security for my family and for the future and i think it is a symbol as much as anything. I think it has to be a symbol of the government actually taking some ownership and acknowledging their liability for this, which they have always denied for 30 or a0 years. I am 56 now and i have lived with it for most of my life. , i have lived with it for most of my life. ,. ,. , i have lived with it for most of my life. , i. , , life. Sarah, you are representing something life. Sarah, you are representing Something Like life. Sarah, you are representing Something Like 300 life. Sarah, you are representing Something Like 300 people life. 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