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BBCNEWS Talking July 2, 2024

Herself at risk of sexual and criminal expectation. When she was 13, her localauthority criminal expectation. When she was 13, her local authority applied for what is called a deprivation of Liberty Order. I what is called a deprivation of Liberty Order what is called a deprivation of Liberty Order. I felt like i needed hel , Liberty Order. I felt like i needed heln, i Liberty Order. I felt like i needed help. I felt Liberty Order. I felt like i needed help, i felt like Liberty Order. I felt like i needed help, ifelt like i Liberty Order. I felt like i needed help, i felt like i was Liberty Order. I felt like i needed help, i felt like i was not Liberty Order. I felt like i needed help, i felt like i was not given l help, ifelt like i was not given help, ifelt like i was not given help, and that is not how you deal with someone. Help, and that is not how you deal with someone. These orders allow local authorities with someone. These orders allow local authorities to with someone. These orders allow local authorities to take with someone. These orders allow local authorities to take away local authorities to take away vulnerable childrens most basic freedoms when they are deemed at serious risk. The order was meant to Keep Zarha Safe. I serious risk. The order was meant to Keep Zarha Safe Keep Zarha Safe. I could not do anything Keep Zarha Safe. I could not do anything. Everything Keep Zarha Safe. I could not do anything. Everything they Keep Zarha Safe. I could not do anything. Everything they were doing, i was there, going to the toilet, cooking something, just simply going down to the kitchen, they were watching. They were watching. Zarha was detained in they were watching. Zarha was detained in a they were watching. Zarha was detained in a care they were watching. Zarha was detained in a care home they were watching. Zarha was detained in a care home 60 i they were watching. Zarha was i detained in a care home 60 miles away. She was not allowed a phone or Internet Access and two workers often mail would observe her 24 hour day. Often mailwould observe her 24hour da. G, often mailwould observe her 24hour da. I, u, often mailwould observe her 24hour da. I, i , often mailwould observe her 24hour da. , g, g, often mailwould observe her 24hour da. , day. You could cry, and then they will think that day. You could cry, and then they will think that you day. You could cry, and then they will think that you are day. You could cry, and then they will think that you are going day. You could cry, and then they will think that you are going to i will think that you are going to harm yourself so they kind of put you on the floor. I dont believe that a teenager that is being sexually exploited should be restrained by two guys. Were you in touch with people restrained by two guys. Were you in touch with people back restrained by two guys. Were you in touch with people back home . Restrained by two guys. Were you in touch with people back home . No, | touch with people back home . No, they thought touch with people back home . No, they thought i touch with people back home . Iifr, they thought i was dead because they had not heard from me. Zarha they thought i was dead because they had not heard from me. Had not heard from me. Zarha has onl had had not heard from me. Zarha has only had one had not heard from me. Zarha has only had one consistent had not heard from me. Zarha has only had one consistent life had not heard from me. Zarha has i only had one consistent life through her life. When that placement broke down, she stayed in touch. I felt like i could down, she stayed in touch. I felt like i could trust down, she stayed in touch. I felt like i could trust her, down, she stayed in touch. I felt like i could trust her, she down, she stayed in touch. I felt like i could trust her, she was i like i could trust her, she was always there. It like i could trust her, she was always there. Like i could trust her, she was always there. It is a compliment that shows always there. It is a compliment that shows that always there. It is a compliment that shows that in always there. It is a compliment that shows that in terms always there. It is a compliment that shows that in terms of always there. It is a compliment that shows that in terms of the l that shows that in terms of the professional roles for zarha should be in professional roles for zarha should be in her professional roles for zarha should be in herjourney through care, there be in herjourney through care, there are be in herjourney through care, there are gaps. Be in herjourney through care, there are gaps. What do you think about the fact there are gaps. What do you think about the fact he there are gaps. What do you think about the fact he was there are gaps. What do you think about the fact he was often about the fact he was often restrained by men . Absolutely disgusting restrained by men . Absolutely disgusting l restrained by men . Absolutely disgusting. I felt restrained by men . Absolutely disgusting. I felt that restrained by men . Absolutely disgusting. I felt that added i restrained by men . Absolutely disgusting. I felt that added to j disgusting. I felt that added to what disgusting. I felt that added to what she has now brought with her. She has what she has now brought with her. She has been let down multiple times she has been let down multiple times. ~. ,. , times. When the high cut for began issuint times. When the high cut for began issuing these times. When the high cut for began issuing these orders, times. When the high cut for began issuing these orders, it times. When the high cut for began issuing these orders, it was times. When the high cut for began issuing these orders, it was meant| issuing these orders, it was meant to be a last resort. The government recently set out a task force on the childrens commissioner for england sits on it. , childrens commissioner for england sits on it. ,. , childrens commissioner for england sitson it. ,. ,. , sits on it. This is a national scandal. Sits on it. This is a national scandal, these sits on it. This is a national scandal, these are sits on it. This is a national scandal, these are the sits on it. This is a nationall scandal, these are the most memorable scandal, these are the most memorable of scandal, these are the most memorable of our scandal, these are the most memorable of our children. | scandal, these are the most memorable of our children. They have been affected memorable of our children. They have been affected in memorable of our children. They have been affected in terms memorable of our children. They have been affected in terms of memorable of our children. They have been affected in terms of their been affected in terms of their lives been affected in terms of their lives now been affected in terms of their lives now after been affected in terms of their lives now after isolated been affected in terms of their lives now after isolated locked| been affected in terms of their i lives now after isolated locked up and taken lives now after isolated locked up and taken away lives now after isolated locked up and taken away from lives now after isolated locked up and taken away from their lives now after isolated locked up. And taken away from their families, but they and taken away from their families, but they have and taken away from their families, but they have also and taken away from their families, but they have also been and taken away from their families, but they have also been affected i and taken away from their families, but they have also been affected in| but they have also been affected in the longer but they have also been affected in the longer term. But they have also been affected in the longer term. But they have also been affected in the longer term. Some might say in some instances, the longer term. Some might say in some instances, the the longer term. Some might say in some instances, the deprivation i the longer term. Some might say in some instances, the Deprivation Ofl some instances, the deprivation of Liberty Order is a necessary resort. What would you say to that . The child is going what would you say to that . The child is going to harm themselves, harm child is going to harm themselves, harm someone child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also be child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also be harmed i child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also be harmed byl harm someone also be harmed by others harm someone also be harmed by others we harm someone also be harmed by others. We might harm someone also be harmed by others. We might need harm someone also be harmed by others. We might need to harm someone also be harmed by others. We might need to protect| others. We might need to protect them others. We might need to protect them but others. We might need to protect them but i others. We might need to protect them but i cannot others. We might need to protect them but i cannot help others. We might need to protect them but i cannot help but others. We might need to protect them but i cannot help but think. Them but i cannot help but think there them but i cannot help but think there are them but i cannot help but think there are better them but i cannot help but think there are better ways them but i cannot help but think there are better ways to them but i cannot help but think there are better ways to achieve this there are better ways to achieve this. There are better ways to achieve this. ,. ,. , , this. The orders are not ust useful ou this. The orders are not ust useful you saw this. The orders are not ust useful you saw children i this. The orders are not ust useful you saw children in i this. The orders are notjust useful you saw children in care this. The orders are notjust useful you saw children in care and i you saw children in care and foster homes. Some are removed from theirfamilies. That is foster homes. Some are removed from their families. That is what happened to katie, who spent more than two years in her mid teens separated from her nan and sister. My separated from her nan and sister. My nan lived near the place. I would run off, i did not want to be in this care home, i wanted to be with my family. I ran off. I remember getting dragged, literally getting dragged, i did not know, they were hiding around the corner from dragged, i did not know, they were hiding around the cornerfrom me. These were workers. They literally dragged me. These were workers. They literally dragged me these were workers. They literally dragged me. This was not the only time when katie dragged me. This was not the only time when katie felt dragged me. This was not the only time when katie felt the dragged me. This was not the only time when katie felt the actions i time when katie felt the actions were excessive. I time when katie felt the actions were excessive. Time when katie felt the actions were excessive. I was in the shower and i am 14 were excessive. I was in the shower and i am 14 at were excessive. I was in the shower and i am 14 at the were excessive. I was in the shower and i am 14 at the time were excessive. I was in the shower and i am 14 at the time and were excessive. I was in the shower and i am 14 at the time and this i were excessive. I was in the shower and i am 14 at the time and this guy is supervising me so it gets a bit weird. He said if you dont come out, i am going to bust the door down. And then hejumped on me when i was like naked. That was a guy, a Support Worker. Length . I was like naked. That was a guy, a Support Worker i was like naked. That was a guy, a Support Worker. Why did he do that . Because it is Support Worker. Why did he do that . Because it is about Support Worker. Why did he do that . Because it is about power. Support worker. Why did he do that . Because it is about power. Children | because it is about power. Children services say because it is about power. Children services say they because it is about power. Children services say they only because it is about power. Children services say they only use because it is about power. Children services say they only use their i services say they only use their orders when hrd is extreme vulnerable and the increase is due to more young people with serious needs entering the care system. For zarha, while she views being deprived of liberty as something that has worsened her trauma, at least she has verna. Least she has verna. Even now, i have my black least she has verna. Even now, i have my black days. Least she has verna. Even now, i have my black days. I least she has verna. Even now, i have my black days. I feel i least she has verna. Even now, i have my black days. I feel as i least she has verna. Even now, i j have my black days. I feel as she saved me. You have iwould be dead. I have never been loved. Do you know what i am trying to say . You taught me what it was like to be loved and it is real as well. I am grateful. I am really trying to contain myself here am really trying to contain myself here i am really trying to contain myself here. ,. And you can hear the full story on radio 4s file on 4 programme detained and restrained britains vulnerable kids, now available on bbc sounds. Lets return to the General Election, and take a closer look at scotland, where both rishi sunak and sir keir starmer have been trying to convince voters to move away from the snp, who have been the dominant party in scotland since 2007. I spoke to james walker for his thoughts on the Campaign Trail. From the labour point of view, the points are suggesting even in scotland they very much have the momentum and i think that is something they really want to sort of keep on sort of trucking way. And their message really is they are trying to get the tories out but also trying to get the snp out. I think msha is that both are dysfunctional parties. 0n the snp, i think there are several different messages. 0ne think there are several different messages. One is very much unity. John swinney is the nail leader trying to unify the Pro Independence vote that has done so well in past elections. There is also this understanding in the snp right now that if they are losing votes to labour and they are not losing them because they think that labour are going to get independence, so you can see them really trying to nail sort of certain messages down, to go back down to the issues, which i think you will see from john swinney today, his so called they of action across scotland. 5ir today, his socalled they of action across scotland. Across scotland. Sir keir starmer also saying across scotland. Sir keir starmer also saying there across scotland. Sir keir starmer also saying there would across scotland. Sir keir starmer also saying there would be i across scotland. Sir keir starmer also saying there would be no i across scotland. Sir keir starmer i also saying there would be no deal between the parties under any circumstances, trying to create a real divide. Circumstances, trying to create a real divide circumstances, trying to create a real divide. Yes, i mean, ithink, ou real divide. Yes, i mean, ithink, you know. Real divide. Yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when real divide. Yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when it real divide. Yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when it comes i real divide. Yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when it comes to i real divide. Yes, i mean, ithink, i you know, when it comes to stammer and the Scottish Labour Leader anas sarwar, what the polls are suggesting is that they could very much bmp wise. Could deliver a chunk that labour need, you know, uk wide. I think that they are definitely. The idea is to put the foot in. It definitely. The idea is to put the foot in. , , definitely. The idea is to put the foot in. ,. Definitely. The idea is to put the footin. ,. , definitely. The idea is to put the footin. ,. Foot in. It has been such a busy time for you. Foot in. It has been such a busy time for you, the foot in. It has been such a busy time for you, the political time for you, the political reporters in scotland at the moment. However the electorate feeling, as they energised by all of this . What do you think . Do you think . Honestly, i dont think they do you think . Honestly, i dont think they are do you think . Honestly, i dont think they are all do you think . Honestly, i dont think they are all that do you think . Honestly, i dont i think they are all that energised. I think. Sort of. Speaking for, say, our readers, i think that there is still very much. They are still very much Pro Independence and very passionate about that but they dont know where necessarily the snp stand and obviously there are other Pro Independence parties but they are smaller. And. I dont think they are as energised by keir starmer, so i dont really see an energised electorate, to be honest. But it is a General Election and it is time to go now. I guess well what happens. The former post office boss Paula Vennells has completed three days of Public Questioning at the inquiry into the horizon it scandal, in which more than 900 subpostmasters were wrongly prosecuted after Faulty Software said money was missing from their accounts. Her answers included more than 20 apologies, four tearful moments and boos from the gallery. 0ur International Business correspondent theo leggett has more on how it unfolded. Any word before you go in, miss vennells . After years of keeping a low profile, Paula Vennells was thrust into the spotlight this week and making her way through a scrum of cameras may have been the easy part. She started with an apology. I would just like to say, and im gratefulfor the opportunity to do this in person, how sorry i am for all the Sub Postmasters a

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