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walls, all sorts of poignant things like that around here at the memorial that really take you back 80 years and make you think about exactly what happened on these beaches way back then. we can talk to the man responsible for the stone and the wonderful sculpture behind us, alan mcconnell and david william ellis. good morning to you. allen, when you are given a brief to take on something like this, i assume it is quite daunting. i know you have great experience, but how do you approach it? irate great experience, but how do you approach it? great experience, but how do you approach it? we get to design and for this design approach it? we get to design and for this design it approach it? we get to design and for this design it was approach it? we get to design and for this design it was liam - approach it? we get to design and l for this design it was liam o connor who put for this design it was liam o connor who put the for this design it was liam o connor who put the design in here and then obviously who put the design in here and then obviously we manufacture all of the stone obviously we manufacture all of the stone and obviously we manufacture all of the stone and get that manufactured but quite daunting, as you say. whenever you are quite daunting, as you say. whenever you are faced with all of this from the beginning, from the outset. but we are the beginning, from the outset. but we are well the beginning, from the outset. but we are well used to it and we ve done we are well used to it and we ve done a we are well used to it and we ve done a lot we are well used to it and we ve done a lot of memorials over the years done a lot of memorials over the years and done a lot of memorials over the years and we are well used to working years and we are well used to working with this type of material.