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with some of those taking part openly calling for the country's leader, xijinping, to stand down. these recent demonstrations have been prompted by a deadly fire in the western region of xinjiang last week, amid suggestions that rescue efforts were hindered by coronavirus restrictions — a claim the authorities have rejected. there were demonstrations in some of the biggest cities, including shanghai, wuhan, and beijing. from there, stephen mcdonell reports it's not unusual to see acts of defiance in china, but this was something different. chanting a crowd of protesters in shanghai chanted, calling for the country's leader, xijinping, to stand down and for the communist party to give up power. a fire which killed ten residents in xinjiang last week has prompted widespread anger in china.

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Newsday

frank, there have been these protests that you've been talking about over the course of the weekend — what was the mood at these organisations, these demonstrations, i should say? and what is the sense of what might happen in the coming days? i what might happen in the coming da s? . , what might happen in the coming da 5? . , . what might happen in the coming da s? ., what might happen in the coming das? ., days? i was an observer at the rotests days? i was an observer at the protests yesterday, _ days? i was an observer at the protests yesterday, saturday l protests yesterday, saturday afternoon in shanghai, i went before it was broken up by the police. i know a number of people were taken away. i also think in shanghai and across the country, there's been police restraint, there hasn't been police brutality, more or less, despite all the videos being sent around. ian observer they are on saturday night —— i was in an observer —— wasn't an observer. that one was much bigger and something truly unprecedented in shanghai. one thing i'll say is

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Newsday

forcing business after business to shut down. the policy is tied to something that really hits people in their everyday lives. the question of whether they can get on with going to work, that's where these restrictions have really come up against the idea that it is the leadership that is forcing these policies. protests have been building in china all year, with people here increasingly sick of zero—covid restrictions. the government seems to have drastically underestimated popular discontent, yet, for the moment, has no easy way out of the zero—covid corner it's painted itself into. officially, china's goal is to return each outbreak to zero new infections using strict stay—at—home orders, travel restrictions, and mass testing. entire cities are still being locked down. but it's been criticised for not prioritising vaccination amongst high—risk groups and not increasing

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HARDtalk

how relevant is it? it is the... you know, it is the original sin. it is something... it is so, um... how can i say it? so essential a historical event in the soul of america until... i really don't think that we will ever.... ..be free of this history. now, we have to deal with it. it's not going to go away. it's not going to... it can be rewritten 1,000 times, but it is still going to be there. and as, you know, a great sort of...

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HARDtalk

it was... i was supposed to have a life in london, as a matter of fact, when i left yale, and something happened. and so my sort of... ..interest in history and in monuments and so on is not... it is part of me, but not the main part, not the... not the very soul of me. it is more like following the star, following my own path, following my own destiny. but you didn't want to use any influence you might have had to help advance the civil rights movement by staying in the united states?

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now, this... i think this is just dumb luck, because there... i was in a lot of situations where something like that would have happened or could have happened, but didn't happen. and so this... ..this kind of liberation of not having a brick... ..not having to face a brick wall made me perhaps brave... ..which is what my mother wanted me to be. barbara chase—riboud, thank you very much indeed for coming on hardtalk. i was delighted to be here. thank you.

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0k. and i'm hoping that something significant will happen with mine replacing it. so... it's, um... and it wouldn't be... it's not a matter of exchange. it's a matter of historical truth. it's a matter of... you know, 1619 — it goes back a long time. you'd like to see the roosevelt statue replaced with one of your sculptures, africa rising from around 1997—98, which is of a large concave black platform, on top is a winged figure. it's in manhattan now, and it stands on the site where bodies of enslaved africans were buried. i want to ask you this question. how important do you think the legacy of slavery is today?

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Newsday

of wheat and its relatives stored here, and they date back to the 1700s and come from every continent apart from antarctica. and the hope is that looking back into the past can help us to produce the crops of the future. this specimen, which was collected on captain cook's first voyage to australia... oh, wow, you can see the dates, can't you? every wheat specimen is painstakingly examined and photographed, and 1,500 of them will have their genomes sequenced. because the collection spans also across time, across 300 years, we have specimens that are from before the introduction of various agricultural techniques, so they can tell us something about how wheat was growing wild, or before things like artificial fertilisers. the project will take months to complete. ah, so here we are. at thejohn innes centre, in norwich, they're also shining a light on the past.

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HARDtalk

the youngest person to ever have a work acquired by moma, the museum of modern art in new york. it was reba, which was a woodcut print of a young girl with a plant next to her. and you have said that "success as a child came easily to me," and that "i grew up as a confident, curious child, "not willing to settle for anything but the best." were you always very ambitious from an early age? i wouldn't call it ambition. i didn't know what it was. i knew that i wanted to do something, you know, significant, but i had no idea what and i had no idea how. and i had no concept of the world except my little family, which is very small. you know, it was very intimate. and it seemed to me that the world was intimate too.

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HARDtalk

by public memorials and her sculptures honour various historical and culturalfigures. but how should society commemorate controversial people from the past? barbara chase—riboud, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. we're sitting here at a major exhibition of your work called infinite folds, and you started your artistic training at the age of seven. how on earth did you know at that early age that you wanted to become an artist? i didn't know i wanted to be an artist. it was my mother and my grandmother who decided that i was going to have something to do with the arts. they weren't quite sure what. you were 16 and you were

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