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BBCNEWS The Context September 4, 2024

Looking forward to talking to our pAnel very shortly. First, the latest bbc news. The french Interior Minister says at least 12 people have died And two are still missing, after a Boat Carrying migrAnts capsized in the english chAnnel. Ten of them were female, six of them said to be young girls. Theres been a large Search And Rescue operation under way since this morning. Ukraines president , volodymyr zelensky, says 51 people have been killed And more thAn 200 injured by a russiAn Missile Strike in the city of poltova. He said two ballistic missiles partially destroyed a building belonging to the institute of communications. It is one of the deadliest single strikes of the war to date. Five children have been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of An 80 year old mAn who was attacked in a park. Bhim kohli died in hospital after being assaulted while walking his dog at FrAnklin Park in leicestershire on sunday evening. You are very welcome to the programme. Shameful is how Benjamin NetAnyahu described today the british GOvernments Decision to suspend 30 of its 350 Arms Licenses to israel. On social media, the israeli Prime Minister said the decision would embolden hamas. He vowed to continue the war with or without british arms. The uks chief rabbi sir Ephraim Mirvis said the decision beggars belief. The former prime Minister Borisjohnson asked On X whether labour wAnted hamas to win. And yet the review was started by the last conservative gOvernment. The foreign Secretary David Lammy said the report found there was a clear risk that Uk Arms may be used in violation of international humAnitariAn law. Here is the Uk Defence Secretaryjohn Healey defending the Announcement. We are a staunch ally of israel, we remain a staunch ally of israel. Weve made this a legal judgment as a result of the process were required to follow. But our determination to stAnd with israel, we suspended the Export Licenses of the 250 parts. These are ones that could be a clear risk in reaching international law in gaza. Suspended 30 of the 350. But our determination to stAnd with israel, to be part of the collective defence if they come under direct attack again as they have done before remains resolute And absolute. Kezia, clearly we cAn see what the Labour GOvernment is trying to do, they are trying to satisfy their backbenchers will not causing a golf And relations with the israeli gOvernment And theres a very strong likelihood here there will not achieve either objective. I will not achieve either objective. Will not achieve either objective. Will not achieve either obective. ~. , objective. I dont think thats what happened objective. I dont think thats what happened here objective. I dont think thats what happened here at objective. I dont think thats what happened here at all. L objective. I dont think thats i what happened here at all. The reasons you outlined, if labour wAnted to move on this issue for political reasons, they would know well they would not be able to please either camp. I actually think this is a strict question of international lawful stop this was review commissioned by the last uk gOvernment, And it has determined that it is possible if not likely that some of the arms that are produced in this country are used for more crimes in gaza. Iii country are used for more crimes in gaza. Country are used for more crimes in gaza. If thats the case, crimes in gaza. If thats the case. Then crimes in gaza. If thats the case, then why crimes in gaza. If thats the case, then why have crimes in gaza. If thats the case, then why have we crimes in gaza. If thats the j case, then why have we not taken a similar approach to saudi arabia, in their long Air Campaign against the who the rebels in yemen . We know full well civiliAns have been told repeatedly. Well civiliAns have been told repeatedly well civiliAns have been told repeatedly. ChristiAn, ithink thats a good repeatedly. ChristiAn, ithink thats a good question repeatedly. ChristiAn, ithink thats a good question And i repeatedly. ChristiAn, ithink. Thats a good question And you like to the logic of this decision will apply to all conflicts, wherever they are in the world. This is the first time this Labour Defence Secretary has made such An intervention. It may not be the last. I do think it is importAnt to reckon eyes this is a question of law. Theres also a Proportionality Issue here as well. Were talking about britain being 0. 2 of An exporter of all ammunitions And Arms Israel receives, a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of them come from the united kingdom, And in this particular instAnce, we are talking about 10 of that tiny tiny fraction, i do that we need to put this into proportion And recognise that ultimately for labour, i think this is a question of legaljudgment, one that was started by the previous gOvernment. Started by the previous cOvernment. ~ ,.. gOvernment. Wills, as kezia said, it gOvernment. Wills, as kezia said. It was gOvernment. Wills, as kezia said, it was commissioned l gOvernment. Wills, as kezial said, it was commissioned by the previous gOvernment And published by the Labour GOvernment. There was a suggestion. Is the interpretation And legal one or is it political . I interpretation And legal one or is it political . Is it political . I think you cAn see is it political . I think you cAn see it is it political . I think you cAn see it both is it political . I think you cAn see it both ways. Is it political . I think you | cAn see it both ways. This obvious cAn see it both ways. This obvious concern with the civiliAn obvious concern with the civiliAn deaths, that keep building every in gaza, And on this side building every in gaza, And on this side of the atlAntic, the response this side of the atlAntic, the response to this is quite muted, response to this is quite muted, surprisingly muted, considering the tide that is turning considering the tide that is turning against net yahoo, And the us turning against net yahoo, And the us actually sits outside the us actually sits outside The International legal bodies, such The International legal bodies, such as The International legal bodies, such as the icc, but theres got such as the icc, but theres got to such as the icc, but theres got to he such as the icc, but theres got to be some sense of legal factors, got to be some sense of legal factors, sorry, political factors, factors, sorry, political factors, involved in this. The left, factors, involved in this. The left, very factors, involved in this. The left, very Angry And furious at the fact left, very Angry And furious at the fact that the civiliAn conditions are so poor in gaza, And conditions are so poor in gaza, And Israet Conditions are so poor in gaza, And israel are going on unabated with their so youve ot unabated with their so youve got to unabated with their so youve got to read between the lines a little got to read between the lines a little bit got to read between the lines a little bit And see that the fact little bit And see that the fact the Labour GOvernment have done fact the Labour GOvernment have done this fact the Labour GOvernment have done this so quickly into the ministration. It s done this so quickly into the ministration. Ministration. Its the third such decision ministration. Its the third such decision they ministration. Its the third such decision they have. Ministration. Its the third such decision they have taken eight weeks. The arms decision yesterday, the reinstating of finAncial support for unrwa And its operations in gaza And then the decision not to challenge the decision not to challenge the right of the icc to seek An Arrest WarrAnt. For Prime Minister net yahoo. It does appear to be more sceptical approach to israel. Where do you think it leaves our relations with them . Do they care .. relations with them . Do they care .. relations with them . Do they care . Do Israel Care . In NetAnyahus Care . Do Israel Care . In netAnyahus eyes, care . Do Israel Care . In netAnyahus eyes, he. Care . Do Israel Care . In netAnyahus eyes, he is care . Do Israel Care . In netAnyahus eyes, he is going to go netAnyahus eyes, he is going to go on netAnyahus eyes, he is going to go on whatever happens. He is determined, never seal statement he has made since prirnus statement he has made since primus insert of this war, that he is primus insert of this war, that he is going primus insert of this war, that he is going to keep going until hamas he is going to keep going until hamas is he is going to keep going until hamas is completely eradicated. He is hamas is completely eradicated. He is going to be Angry, he is losing he is going to be Angry, he is losing key he is going to be Angry, he is losing key support from a key ally. Losing key support from a key ally. But losing key support from a key ally, but he is a huge amount of sunport ally, but he is a huge amount of support from the us. The us Over of support from the us. The us Over the of support from the us. The us Over the last couple of days, President Biden has been criticai President Biden has been critical of Hound And Yahoo has been critical of Hound And Yahoo has been in critical of Hound And Yahoo has been in the Cease Fire talks, but the been in the Cease Fire talks, but the us is still backing him And theyll keep going Corticat And Theyll keep going cortical of netAnyahu. Thats An Yahoos Determination keep going. An Yahoos Determination keep going, state empower, keep going going, state empower, keep going. He may not care. If this were going. He may not care. If this were to going. He may not care. If this were to strike out it is going to have were to strike out it is going to have An were to strike out it is going to have An impact on their War Effort to have An impact on their War Effort. ,. ~ to have An impact on their War Effort. ,... effort. Lets talk about other issues today. This is the strike in ukraine. At least 51 people have been killed And more thAn 200 injured today in a russiAn Missile Strikes in poltova, in central ukraine. President zelensky said two ballistic missiles were fired by the russiAns at An educational facility And a nearby hospital, as well as a communications institute, which was also partially destroyed. You will see huge holes in the side of several of these buildings. Pro Kremlin Bloggers in russia say two iskAnder missiles were fired at ukrainiAn military communications. They are short rAnge missiles fired from the ground. Kezia, i guess on days like this, ukrainiAns would be scratching their head, asking why the uk And the united states a play double stAndard to Self Defense . Why is israel allowed to use weapons that Risk And ExpAnsion but not ukraine which is not under Daily Bombardment . I ukraine which is not under Daily Bombardment . I think Eo Le Daily Bombardment . I think peeple in Daily Bombardment . I think people in ukraine Daily Bombardment . I think people in ukraine in Daily Bombardment . I think people in ukraine in the people in ukraine in the ukrainiAn gOvernment will also be equally concerned about the degree to which we talk less about them, less about the conflict that is happening there, because of other world events. Really serious develop its in ukraine Over the past couple of days. And really serious consequences in the months to come yet if the us president ial elections choose to focus on ukraine to do the degree to which the West Supply weapons. He said today they need help with the defence weapons. This attack is the most deadly so far this year so the lesson we cAn afford to do is take our eyes away from what is take our eyes away from what is happening in ukraine. UkrainiAns were in washington on friday to plead the case for the use of those longer rAnge weapons, there were generals who we have had on the programme, who have second if we keep doing the same thing, ukraine will eventually lose because right now, we are purposely not giving ukraine what they need to win. Do you think days like today, the attacks we have seen in the last week or so, are going to sharpen the focus in washington . Sharpen the focus in washinrton . , washington . Definitely, because it rinus washington . Definitely, because It Rings back washington . Definitely, because It Rings back to washington . Definitely, because It Rings back to the washington . Definitely, because It Rings back to the forefront. It rings back to the forefront. The It Rings back to the forefront. The war It Rings back to the forefront. The war in It Rings back to the forefront. The war in gaza has definitely in some the war in gaza has definitely in some ways put ukraine on, id in some ways put ukraine on, id say, in some ways put ukraine on, id say, An in some ways put ukraine on, id say, An equal footing. They are both id say, An equal footing. They are both horrific tragedies but on equal are both horrific tragedies but on equal footing for events like on equal footing for events like these, the lenski will use to say, like these, the lenski will use to say, these are critical, And there to say, these are critical, And there are to say, these are critical, And there are already negotiations going there are already negotiations going on there are already negotiations going on for the longer rAnge ballistic going on for the longer rAnge ballistic missiles that cAn reach ballistic missiles that cAn reach deep into russiAn territory. We know ukraine have made territory. We know ukraine have made And territory. We know ukraine have made And risen to Russia And Zelensky made And risen to Russia And Zelensky said today in interview with nbc he is not giving interview with nbc he is not giving Any of that territory. The giving Any of that territory. The long rAnge missiles from the us the long rAnge missiles from the us could take months. That of course the us could take months. That of course his barrier in the brutai of course his barrier in the brutal winter months in ukraine which brutal winter months in ukraine which is brutal winter months in ukraine which is going to be terrible for civiliAns And the soldiers, so today for civiliAns And the soldiers, so today is, for lack of a better so today is, for lack of a better word, An opportunity for zelensky better word, An opportunity for zelensky to say, we need these air defences, we need more Munitions Air defences, we need more munitions to survive, to beat hack munitions to survive, to beat back russia, And congress, when congress back russia, And congress, when congress returns next week, aid to Ukraine Congress returns next week, aid to ukraine will be on the forefront And it may be easier to pass forefront And it may be easier to pass the six e1 Billion Dollar Package that was approved six months ago. 60 1 Billion approved six months ago. 60 1 Billion | approved six months ago. 60 1 Billion. ~. approved six months ago. 60 1 Billion 1 Billion. I know they see the threat of the 1 Billion. I know they see the threat of the return 1 Billion. I know they see the threat of the return of 1 Billion. I know they see the threat of the return of the threat of the return of the Trip Administration which is why they are talking but the surgeon And doing this work in the next few weeks, which is why they were in washington at the weekend. The irony is that the weekend. The irony is that the russiAn resident, while his forces were killing civiliAns, he was in mongolia, which is a member of The International criminal court, And you will remember that in march of last year, they issued An international Arrest WarrAnt for putin Over the war crimes. You might be surprised or maybe not surprised to hear looking at these pictures, mongolia did not arrest him sorry, not sorry, said the gOvernment. Mongolia imports a lot of petroleum from our neighbours russia, supply which they say is critical to our existence And that of our people. We cAn see the position they are in, the truth is, he is never going to face justice, izzy . Certainly not for as long as he is a And lAnd. Farfrom a warm welcome, that is a Red Carpet welcome, that is a Red Carpet we cAn see in the background you have a spleen with the reasons why. We have known the longer the conflict happens in ukraine, the more to the advAntage it is of the russiAns because the russiAns are relying on the west shrugging his shoulders, slowly giving up, And he goes by, becoming less willing to commit the finAnces And the munitions required ukrainiAns to win this war. The longer it goes on, The End confident putin will feel. We will leave it there. We will focus on where it might add up to into the Election Campaign which is ongoing. We will talk about the campaigning that has been under way during the labour day weekend. That is also come. Around the world And across the uk, this is bbc news. 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