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BBCNEWS Verified Live September 6, 2024

Grenfell. The Deputy Prime Minister says it is completely unacceptable that people are still living in homes covered with Dangerous Cladding seven years after the Grenfell Tower fire. Yesterdays final report into the disaster said all 72 deaths were entirely avoidable. The government also wants police and prosecutors to take action as quickly as possible. Criminal charges could include corporate manslaughter. This report this is from jessica lane. Corporate manslaughter. This report is from jessica lane. Survivors and relatives survivors and relatives of those who died Say Theyve of those who died Say Theyve now had apologies and some now had apologies and some answers, but theirfight answers, but Theirfight Forjustice goes on. Forjustice goes on. Antonio and miguel managed antonio and miguel managed to escape the fire. To escape the fire. Miguel and his wife knocked miguel and his wife knocked on doors of five other on doors of five other flats on the 13th floor, flats on the 13th floor, warning friends and warning friends and neighbours to get out. Neighbours to get out. Its my duty to do that anyway, its my duty to do that anyway, if i knew that its if i knew that its a fire in the building. A fire in the building. I mean, its the small thing that i mean, its the small thing that i can do isjust to give i can do isjust to give advice to my neighbours. Advice to my neighbours. Now the inquirys finished, and the second chapter is starting. So it is important now that the government takes on board the recommendation. But bereaved families and survivors may have to wait until at least The End of 2026 for a decision on potential criminal charges over the fire. Here are some of the reports key findings. In 2001, before the disaster, the alarm was raised about cladding related fires. But despite a committee of Mps Raising concerns flammable Cladding Wasnt banned. The report also found that tests conducted in 2001 revealed that the cladding of concern burned violently, though the government did not tighten any rules. In 2010, the Coalition Government was intent on cutting regulations. The inquiry found that even matters affecting the safety of life were ignored, delayed or disregarded. The inquiry also found there had been systematic dishonesty from manufacturers, with one company deliberately concealing the true extent of the danger of its product. The report also found the firefighters from the London Fire brigade, who went into grenfell, were not properly prepared. Prime minister Keir Starmer visited grenfell and apologised yesterday for the systematic failings which led to the deaths, all of which the report found were avoidable. But his government says it wont be easy to make peoples homes safer, even though 5 billion is available to carry out the work needed. Theres no excuse to not do this work now, and there are still some buildings that we believe havent been identified. Also, weve identified a630 and only 50 of them are currently in remediation. But it is completely unacceptable that the remediation is taking as long as it is. Around the country, people are fighting to get safety improvements made to their homes. Rachael loftus lives in leeds city centre, Building Checks after the Grenfell Fire found urgent changes needed to be made here. Alongside Timber Cladding on the outside of the building. Weve also been told that this Polycarbonate Sheeting should never have been used on a residential building because its likely to melt if the temperature got very high. And then the other problem is that this is the insulation thats used behind the outer wall of our building, and thats basicallyjust polystyrene. So that also would melt. And that should be quite toxic in the event of a fire. New Fire Alarms have been fitted and residents took the owners of the building to court. But Work Isnt expected to begin until november next year. The developers say thats reasonable given the Nature And Complexity of the works in question. Seven years on, Grenfell Tower remains a place of remembrance and a warning that urgent changes are needed to dangerous homes the government says speeding up the process of identifying those and getting that work done is now its priority. Jessica lane, Bbc News. With me now is someone who has been reporting on grenfell since the fire, bbc londons reporter. You know many of the families, the bereaved families, the survivors really well. You have them many times and after yesterdays report from the inquiry, what is their Mood Today . I from the inquiry, what is their Mood Toda . ~ ,. from the inquiry, what is their Mood Toda . ~ ,.. from the inquiry, what is their Mood Toda . ~ ,. today . I think its fair to say many are simply today . I think its fair to say many are simply exhausted, today . I think its fair to say many are simply exhausted, not today . I think its fair to say many are simply exhausted, notjust today . I think its fair to say many are simply exhausted, notjust by| are simply exhausted, notjust by the last days, weeks, months and years of waiting for this final report to come out. There had been huge delays and many i have spoken to said they did not want it this way round. The public Inquiry Idea came from theresa may, that trauma on them while also campaigning and going about their daily lives, they are campaigning for the justice that they desperately need for their loved ones. Its exhaustive and it put a huge strain on people. We have thought about this a lot at bbc london, notjust myself of the team on radio and on all our platforms and television, but the mental Health Strain as well on people is huge. Ptsd is very common still seven years on. There are some campaigners that have sadly died waiting forjustice, so the strain on people here is huge. Yes, it was an important day yesterday, its a milestone, but there are still obviously a long way to go. nd milestone, but there are still obviously a long way to go. And what we have been obviously a long way to go. And what we have been reminded obviously a long way to go. And what we have been reminded of obviously a long way to go. And what we have been reminded of the last i we have been reminded of the last couple of days is the communitys strength, the resilience, the banded together to support one another. Absolutely. Is hugely diverse community. Before the fire, it was a very active community and just in the space that we are here, there is a sports that does a lot of support for young people, for adults. There are amazing Football Teams that have come out of this tragedy. There is an Arts Centre over the corner and i have just come from a Community Centre where young teenagers are for the first time talking about their trauma and that they want to be those people to keep the fight up for justice. Those people to keep the fight up forjustice. So there is a huge strength, but there is as i stay still a huge trauma here, and many arejust asking when still a huge trauma here, and many are just asking when will it end . When one of those prosecutions happen . Will those changes be implemented . The recommendations be taken seriously by government . One family i spoke to yesterday when he said the Prime Minister, went to number ten and met Keir Starmer and then looked at their television and saw how members of parliament walked out during the suppose it on grenfell or i believe it was just after the Prime Minister spoke. That does not look good, and it does not play well for this community they have tried so hard to play by the rules and to interact with government and authorities. So, yes, it is a strong, diverse community but they will still need to support Each Other going forward. I would ick u Each Other going forward. I would pick up about Each Other going forward. I would pick up about what Each Other going forward. I would pick up about what he Each Other going forward. I would pick up about what he said Each Other going forward. I would pick up about what he said about| Each Other going forward. I would i pick up about what he said about the meeting taking place with young teenagers talking about how they have to then take on this fight for justice, and it gives you a sense of how long this is taking because it sounds like they are thinking of this in generational terms and it should not have to take such a long time, should it . Should not have to take such a long time, should it . Absolutely. Anyone who is going time, should it . Absolutely. Anyone who is going along time, should it . Absolutely. Anyone who is going along to time, should it . Absolutely. Anyone who is going along to the who is going along to the anniversary events, to the silent walks are the marches, the rallies that happen, some of the signs that are held up our of other tragedies. Hillsboro for example. I know there is a lot of connection between some of the grenfell campaigners and some of the grenfell campaigners and some of the grenfell campaigners and some of the hillsboro campaigners in liverpool because that connection is unfortunate because of the tragedies and the state of the fights with the state they have both had. So, yes and people are in it for the long haul. They want to make sure that something comes of this terrible, terrible tragedy and that those 72 lives were not lost in vain. Those way people that i mentioned, they have seen their parents deal with this trauma, they have suffered in some of them have had their School Life interrupted and some of them went to the school right next to the tower. So it has affected, seven years as a long time in a childs lie. ,.. years as a long time in a childs lie. ,... lie. Its a long time if you are a ounu lie. Its a long time if you are a young teenager, absolutely. I lie. Its a long time if you are a l young teenager, absolutely. For lie. Its a long time if you are a young teenager, absolutely. For all of us, young teenager, absolutely. For all of us. There young teenager, absolutely. For all of us, there are young teenager, absolutely. For all of us, there are these milestones. | of us, there are these milestones. 18 children died in the fire. They wont make the milestones of the people will be able to, to see into a she. So, yes, ithink people will be able to, to see into a she. So, yes, i think in the words of many campaigners who have spoken to me and when i say campaigners i mean bereaved families and survivors who dont want to be campaigners for thats what they are now, the fight continues. They have no choice but to keep putting the pressure on, taking Time Out of their daily lives and put the pressure on and also support Each Other, to make sure that the young, the older people with disabilities all get to, you know, feel that they are supported going forward whatever gets thrown at them coming next. At them coming next. Thank you so much for that. At them coming next. Thank you so much for that. Of at them coming next. Thank you so much for that. Of course at them coming next. Thank you so much for that. Of course we at them coming next. Thank you so much for that. Of course we know. Much for that. Of course we know that there are people living in thousands of buildings still which are unsafe because they have got unsafe cladding and other measures need to be taken. The last thing the grenfell families want is for any otherfamily to grenfell families want is for any other family to have to go through what they went through as a result of that awful fire in june 2017. The other thing of course is those families and survivors of focusing on the metropolitan police investigation, and they want that to happen as quickly as possible. Here at Bbc News, we want to thank everyone who was spoken to us over the last couple of days, from the firefighters in the ground that night trying to save lives and especially of course the bereaved families and the survivors as well. As they continue their fight for justice, this is a story that we are going be returning to again and again. From grenfell, back to the studio. Thanks very much. Some Breaking News to bring you now, Hunter Biden Public Attorney has told bbc that he is changing his plea and will now plead guilty on Tax Evasion charges will set prosecutors accused the president s son of failing to pay at least 1. 1; million in taxes and instead spending money on a lavish hotel, drugs and sex workers. Its a second trial of the year for mr biden, who is awaiting sentencing for gun offences. Injune, he became the first ever child of a sitting us president to be criminally convicted. A member of the Royal Navy has died after a Merlin Helicopter ditched in the channel. It happened during a night time operation with the Hms Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier. Our Defence Correspondent is following the story and have the latest. This haened the story and have the latest. This happened last the story and have the latest. Ti 3 happened last night but weve only now been told that one of the crew, there were three on board, has died as a result of this incident. The other two were rescued and are safe as we understand and were taken to hospital. It happened in about 7 45pm local time, so it would have been getting dark. It is normalfor Royal Navy helicopters to carry out exercises. This was an exercise it not time to keep their hours up because that is how they have to operate often in combat situations, so to ensure they are qualified to do that. There were two helicopters in the air at the time. One of them came down. One of the marlins and we dont know why it came down. So we dont know why it came down. So we dont know why it came down. So we dont know whether this was a mechanical problem, Human Error or whether it was the weather. We dont have a clear idea and will have a clear idea until they do an investigation which obviously they have started. So three people on board he would evolve in group. This is a helicopter which can carry commandos. This was a Troop Carrier if you like. Working carry heavy loads. There is another version of the same to cover the does anti Submarine Warfare but this was the one that can carry troops. They were not marines on board at the time can bejust were not marines on board at the time can be just the three crew taking part in the exercise along with the other helicopter when it gazed into the English Channeljust off the coast of dorset, we are told. Other helicopters from Air Sea Rescue nearby came to help in the Recovery Operation and as i said they did manage to rescue two of the third they recover the body. We dont know whether its a Man Or Woman and we dont know which of the crew, with navigator, pilot, was who survived the did not survive. The Defence Secretary described the news of the crash is dreadful. This Defence Secretary described the news of the crash is dreadful. Of the crash is dreadful. This was ve , of the crash is dreadful. This was very. Very of the crash is dreadful. This was very. Very sad of the crash is dreadful. This was very, very sad news. Of the crash is dreadful. This was very, very sad news. Its news i very, very sad news. Its News Everyone very, very sad news. Its News Everyone connected with our armed Forces Everyone connected with our Armed Forces dreads. In all my thoughts are with forces dreads. In all my thoughts are with the family and the friends in the are with the family and the friends in the colleagues today. I am in portsmouth and i have been able to share portsmouth and i have been able to share my portsmouth and i have been able to share my condolences with navy personnel. And im here with the first sea personnel. And im here with the first sea lord, a full investigation has already started. And that will be one has already started. And that will be one of has already started. And that will be one of his first priorities. What A Ears be one of his first priorities. What appears to be one of his first priorities. What appears to have be one of his first priorities. Twat appears to have happened exactly . That will be for the investigation. Today that will be for the investigation. Today is that will be for the investigation. Today is a that will be for the investigation. Today is a day to mourn the loss of a valued today is a day to mourn the loss of a valued navy personnel. And to think a valued navy personnel. And to think about his family. His friends and his think about his family. His friends and his colleagues. Notjust on the heiicopter and his colleagues. Notjust on the helicopter and back at base, but the Wider Helicopter and back at base, but the wider Naval Service feels his loss. Acuteiy. Wider Naval Service feels his loss. Acutely, like we all do. For anyone connected acutely, like we all do. For anyone connected with the Armed Forces, this sort connected with the Armed Forces, this sort of connected with the Armed Forces, this sort of news is news that people this sort of news is news that People Dread. This sort of news is news that People Dread this sort of news is news that eole dread... People Dread. The Defence Secretary there and you People Dread. The Defence Secretary there and you can People Dread. The Defence Secretary there and you can follow People Dread. The Defence Secretary there and you can follow the there and you can follow the latest updates on this. We have a live Page P updates on this. We have a live page up and running so just go to the Bbc News website or the Bbc News app. Tributes are being paid to the ugandan Marathon Runner Rebecca cheptegei, whos died four days after being set on fire by her former boyfriend. The olympic athlete was reportedly doused with petrol at her home in Western Kenya, where she had been training. Cheptegei,

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