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BBCNEWS BBC News September 8, 2024

Our Ireland Correspondent Sara Girvin reports. After years of strained relations, this was the Moment Sir Keir starmer was given A Hundred Thousand welcomes to dublin. There were smiles and handshakes as he and his irish counterpart were presented with football jerseys. This will be proudly worn in north london before too long. Both leaders said this was an opportunity to renew and deepen the friendship between britain and ireland. I know as two new leaders of our respective countries, we both said we wish to really place British Irish Relations on a new path, and i really appreciate the time that youve given to that since taking office. Its really important to me and to my government, and i think it is the moment for reset, and its when we put meaning behind those words. International matters took Centre Stage following a roundtable business discussion. We have to be clear in the face of russian aggression, we have to stand together to coordinate, stand with our allies and give ukraine all of the support that it needs for as long as it needs. Photo opportunities are one thing, but the taoiseach and Prime Minister will need to decide what a reset in their relationship actually looks like. Symbolism is important here, but moving forward theyll need to deliver substance over style. There have already been announcements a yearly summit between the two countries addressing trade, security, justice and climate. Both governments are keen to send the message that when it comes to the relationship between britain and ireland, this is a new ball game. Sarah girvin, Bbc News in dublin. Lets speak to david henig, who has been working to map out the Post Brexit Future of Uk Trade policy in his work at the thinktank, the European Centre for international political economy. When it comes to the optics, it is looking good between the two leaders, but they still have a lot of work to do. Lot of work to do. Thats ri. Ht. Lot of work to do. Thats right its lot of work to do. Thats right. Its always lot of work to do. Thats right. Its always a lot of work to do. Thats right. Its always a Goodi Lot of work to do. Thats right. Its always a good start for leaders of countries to talk to Each Other, to promise to work together. It gets a lot harder when they actually have to put that into some kind of detail. One of the subject that wasnt mentioned was Northern Ireland, where there is clearly a large shared interest between the uk and ireland. Various issues like energy, issues with the implementation of the northern Ireland Protocol, the windsor framework, and the wider Uk Eu relations and deepening that. Good optics, a good start, lots more to do. You are working out the Post Brexit relationship, Uk Trade policy. What do they need to focus on, how do they take it forward . As you say, still quite a lot of Sticking Points. A huge agenda for the uk with the Eu And Member states such as ireland. For example, trade in goods to reduce the barriers, for Example Food and drink agreement. The trade in services to allow people to move more easily for work. Discussions around mobility, which is something the uk wants, used mobility, something the eu wants. Shared challenges in terms of energy and climate change. Youth mobility. There is a shared Energy Market across the island of ireland. Security was mentioned there, thats one of the earliest discussions that is ongoing about a Security Pact between the uk and the eu. We are told a lot of this Wont Start in real anger, the negotiations, until december orjanuary. Until december or january. Thats because until december orjanuary. Thats because the eus forming a new commission and they are not yet in place to start this. Its on details like that which will put into practice the warm words we are seeing from the leaders now. Pm words we are seeing from the leaders ow leaders now. An awful lot of detail. How leaders now. An awful lot of detail. How important leaders now. An awful lot of detail. How important is leaders now. An awful lot of detail. How important is it l detail. How important is it that Sir Keir Starmer is making these moves, talking about the importance he places on the reset with the Republic Of Ireland, and of course also with the rest of the european union. Inaudible question. This was an essential start. Relations were in poor shape under previous Uk Governments. To be 30 rishi sunak, had started the process of rebuilding relations. To be fair to rishi sunak. Particularly over Northern Ireland. A lot of people in the eu looking closely to see, has the uk really changed, are they prepared to move on from the battles of the past . To work out whether you can have a better relationship. Is the uk still essentially committed to what they consider trying to have their cake and eat it, cakeism . The Uk Government is under a lot of scrutiny from the eu. Each time the Prime Minister has talked about a Mobility Deal with the eu, it takes a half step back. Thats why there is a lot more to do to turn all of the good optics into serious negotiations, and then into results that will help uk businesses, young people wanting to work elsewhere, and so on. David, lets put elsewhere, and so on. David, lets put you elsewhere, and so on. David, lets put you on elsewhere, and so on. David, lets put you on the elsewhere, and so on. David, lets put you on the spot. Elsewhere, and so on. David, i lets put you on the spot. What do you think, has the uk changed enough to get there . As you say, the Youth Mobility scheme is something Sir Keir Starmer wasnt necessarily that optimistic or happy about . I think the trajectory is now towards closer relations with the eu, thats not an issue of rejoining, i dont think that some the table, a customs union, a single market. What i expect is a steady increase in the number of agreements in different topics. Coming together in various areas, starting with security, over the next period of time. I think we will see a steady improvement. Think we will see a steady improvement. For the time bein , improvement. For the time being. Really improvement. For the time being, really good improvement. For the time being, really good to improvement. For the time being, really good to get. Improvement. For the time i being, really good to get your thoughts and recollections. Thank you very much. A busy day for the uk leader. He also gave his first major interview since becoming Prime Minister. He told the bbc the previous government Broke The Nhs in ways which were unforgivable. Speaking exclusively to sunday with laura kuennsberg, he said a review of the Health Service to be published in the coming week finds the conservatives changes to the nhs were hopelessly misconceived, and austerity in the coalition years, followed by the pandemic, had left the nhs in a perilous awful position. Everybody watching this who has used the nhs or relatives who have, know its broken. Its unforgivable, the state of our nhs. The last government Broke The Nhs. Ourjob now is to properly understand how that came about and bring about the reforms, starting with the first steps, 40,000 extra appointments. But we have to do the hard yards of reforms. I think its only a Labour Government that can do the reform that our nhs needs, and we will start on that journey. Sir Keir Starmer Talking On Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg. Our political correspondent leila nathoo. Pretty damning, what he was saying about the situation the tories have led Up To, and the nhs is in now . Tories have led Up To, and the nhs is in now . Remember, this is one of labours core missions, trying to fix the nhs, getting it back on its feet. Sir Keir Starmer wants to deploy what we have become familiar with from the government since they took charge, blaming the conservative party for the state of the nhs. This is blaming successive conservative governments, he is talking about reforms going back to the Coalition Government in 2010, Big Structural reforms led by the then Health Secretary andrew lansley. He is mentioning this review, that was done within days of Labour Taking Charge by the former Labour Mp Lord darzi. Independent review into the whole state of the nhs, talking about access to Health Care services, the performance of the nhs, and the quality of Health Care. Any inequalities in terms of those three aspects. So this will provide the context for a bigger, longer Term Look at the nhs. Part of what it is calling fixing the foundations. So a really central part of what the Labour Government is trying to do. In addition to their first steps, the short term fixes of their policy, thousands of new appointments, evenings and weekend appointments. You can see why Keir Starmer is trying to present this very bleak picture of the state of the nhs, it chimes with everything we have heard about various other parts of the public sector. Prisons, for example. Blaming the conservatives. The tories are trying to defend their record. The last tory government, the shadow Health Secretary Victoria Atkins, having talked about the tories putting more doctors and nurses into the nhs and accusing them of politicising childrens health. This is because we had some early findings from the report by lord darzi, which are going to be released on thursday. Early indications of the things he is talking about, for example falling vaccination rates among children, growing rates among children, growing rates of prescriptions for adhd medications. A rise in Hospital Admission for children and young people with eating disorders. He is presenting this big picture to the government on thursday, and the Health Secretary Wes Streeting will take it away and that will inform a longer ten year plan. Given Sir Keir Starmer was adamant and scathing about the conservatives and the state that in his word they have left the nhs, as you mentioned the tories shadow Health Secretary Victoria Atkins has hit back. They are defending their records. Victoria atkins was the Health Secretary in the previous government, defending the Tories Record about the Work Force and improvements in the nhs that they made in their view, and accusing Keir Starmer of politicising childrens health. of politicising childrens health.. health. On a different story, but still on health. On a different story, but still on politics, health. On a different story, but still on politics, we health. On a different story, but still on politics, we had| but still on politics, we had the damning report into the Grenfell Tower fire. Today in the Morning Papers i believe we are getting Michael Gove, the former housing secretary, speaking. What has he said . Obviously a huge range of actors over a number of years criticised in that report from the grand cell inquiry. In the Sunday Times, Michael Gove, the former housing secretary. The grenfell inquiry. He talks about this and he starts in this piece in the Sunday Times with an apology to those who lost their lives in the fire, the families, relatives, campaigners and survivors, saying they were let down by successive governments including those in which he played a part. He talks about the efforts that he tried to go through, in his view, to take action against some of the companies who the inquiry had accused of systematic dishonesty. Some of the companies that made and sold the cladding which was around Grenfell Tower. He talks about his time as housing secretary, trying to go after them and persuade other countries too. He talked about restricting imports of some of their products and he said he ran up against bureaucracy. This is Michael Gove for the first time giving his response to his part in the Governments Response to the Grenfell Tower fire, which of course played out over many years. Of course played out over many ears. ~ of course played out over many ears. ~ ,. of course played out over many ears. ~ i. Of course played out over many ears. ~. years. Thank you so much. I am sure those years. Thank you so much. I am sure those comments years. Thank you so much. I am sure those comments by years. Thank you so much. I am | sure those comments by Michael Gove will be picked up on, on sunday with Laura Kuenssberg Tomorrow Morning. You can watch the full interview with the uk leader, the Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, Tomorrow Morning at 9am On Bbc one, the News Channel and the Bbc Iplayer. A rare event took Place Today in london when richard moore, the head of m16, and Cia Director William Burns appeared in public together for the first time at a public event in london. Mr burns, who has been central to efforts to reach a ceasefire in the middle east, said the us was working with other mediators to refine the existing framework for a deal. Also discussed, ukraines seizure of the russian territory in kursk, which was described as a significant tactical achievement. Lets have a listen. Its absolutely critical that we do sustain our support to ukraine. And its really difficult. Its hard. And particularly in eastern ukraine, this is attritional warfare where there is a huge amount of suffering on both sides. And putin is pushing forward in a sort of attritional pyrrhic Campaign Of Taking Village by village as he goes forward. When he takes those, theres nothing left. And thats why i used, deliberately used the term pyrrhic. There is nothing left because everything is utterly destroyed. But that is the Kremlin Way of war. Thats what they did in grozny. Its what they did in aleppo. And its what theyre now doing here. So it is tough, but its also important to remember that our ukrainian friends have an absolute will to fight. And its important to remember how this started. It started in this phase with putin mounting a War Of Aggression in february 2022, and two and a half years later, that failed. It continues to fail. Ukrainians will continue to fight. We will continue to help them to fight. We have to all remember that despite all of that work that needs to be done, this is ultimately a question of political will. And this gets to your question whether or not leaders on both sides are prepared to recognise that enough is enough, and that the time has come, finally, to make some hard choices and some difficult compromises. I hope, i hope profoundly, that both of those leaders are going to make that decision because, as i said, theres an enormous amount at stake here. Daniel lomas is an Assistant Professor at The School of politics and international relations at the university of nottingham. He told me about the significance of that first public meeting between the Top Uk and us spy chiefs. Its important to see a joint front between the two Top Uk and us spy chiefs. The message they are giving off is one that is fact based, we do face in the west an existential threat from countries like china, obviously with russia and the invasion of ukraine, and i think it was an uncompromising message. Parts of the message they were delivering, quite pessimistic in some sense. For those in the west who believe putin is suddenly going to collapse, the essential message from both was that no significant cracks have emerged within the kremlin itself. This was a tough, uncompromising picture they were painting, essentially talking about power and the situation at the moment, the West And Security situation we face. Its a bleak picture they do offer. When it comes to russia, they said they had been warning ukraine ahead of that full Scale Invasion in february 2022. The kind of workings they are now doing in order to warn the rest of the population, is it alarming . Are we to take this as beneficial for the international community, for lay People Like Us to hear this . What we are seeing is, yes, this is a significant moment. Its the first time the head of m16 and the cia have spoken in person in a public setting. Its part of a broader package of briefings by Senior Western intelligence officials on the situation both in ukraine and the Security Situation more broadly. Its part of a broader picture. In terms of the messaging, and why they are doing it, when were looking for example at polling in the uk and the us, it could be argued that senior officials are seen as more trusted, lets say, to deliver some of these key lines than some of the politicians out there. So this message and the people delivering the message is one of fact based, intelligence led, shaped by the Information Western intelligence agencies themselves are collecti

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