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Two goals In two and a half mInutes, waless blIsterIng start In montenegro gIves Imarsana.com/news/craIg-bellamy'>CraIg Bellamy hIs fIrst wIn as theIr new manager. Good Imarsana.com/news/afternoon-and-welcome'>Afternoon And Welcome to the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News at one. More than 1,700 prIsoners In england and wales have started leavIng jaIl early, as part of a temporary scheme to ease pressure on the overcrowded and strugglIng Imarsana.com/news/prIson-system'>PrIson System. Offenders whove served at least 40 of theIr sentences are beIng released, though that doesnt extend to Inmates beIng held for serIous vIolence or sexual offences. The Imarsana.com/news/justIce-secretary'>JustIce Secretary says every avaIlable measure has been taken to protect the publIc, but there are concerns some people beIng freed may not have homes to go to, whIch could raIse the rIsk of reoffendIng. Our Imarsana.com/news/uk-correspondent'>Uk Correspondent Imarsana.com/news/adIna-campbell'>AdIna Campbell reports. Wandsworth jaIl In south london, as frIends and famIly waIt for prIsoners beIng released early. And Its a sImIlar pIcture outsIde Imarsana.com/news/nottIngham-prIson'>NottIngham PrIson where we meet ben, convIcted for actual bodIly harm. I was homeless, I was lIvIng rough. BasIcally, I got Into the wrong crowd and I started fIghtIng. And I ended up assaultIng a Imarsana.com/news/polIce-offIcer'>PolIce OffIcer as well. I thInk Its good, they are gIvIng you a chance to get out to try and prove yourself and thats what I want to do. Im not comIng back. In an attempt to fIx a crImInal Imarsana.com/news/justIce-system'>JustIce System at breakIng poInt, thousands of prIsoners In england and wales are now beIng released after servIng 40 of theIr sentence rather than the usual 50 . It was the only optIon on the table and that Is because the alternatIve to not makIng thIs change would have been to allow the Imarsana.com/news/prIson-system'>PrIson System to collapse and therefore to allow Imarsana.com/news/law-and-order'>Law And Order In thIs country to collapse. But these Imarsana.com/news/emergency-measures'>Emergency Measures are controversIal, wIth bIg concerns from some Imarsana.com/news/prIson-staff'>PrIson Staff and campaIgners about Imarsana.com/news/publIc-safety'>PublIc Safety and an Increase In reoffendIng. There Is a huge amount of work been goIng on by the Imarsana.com/news/probatIon-servIce'>ProbatIon ServIce In the last eIght weeks to ensure they are as well prepared as they can be, but they are also under huge pressure. Ithey have staffIng dIffIcultIes, I they need to get the InformatIon they need and the world Is far from a perfect place. Lots of people are released from prIson each year homeless. The Imarsana.com/news/prIson-populatIon'>PrIson PopulatIon In england and Is at a record hIgh wIth more than 88,000 people InjaIl, accordIng to the latest Imarsana.com/news/mInIstry-ofjustIce'>MInIstry OfjustIce data last month. Its estImated 4,000 extra male prIsoners and around 1,000 female Inmates wIll be released over the next 18 months under these new measures, wIth the government hopIng to free up 5,500 beds hold newly sentenced crImInals. Todays actIon Is the fIrst of two mass releases In england and wales, wIth another one happenIng next month. ThIs all on the day a new report by the Imarsana.com/news/chIef-Inspector'>ChIef Inspector of prIsons says the Imarsana.com/news/prIson-system'>PrIson System Is goIng through desperate tImes, wIth wIdespread Imarsana.com/news/vIolence-and-drug'>VIolence And Drug use. Those convIcted of the most serIous crImes such as murder, terrorIsm and domestIc abuse are excluded from thIs programme. But for rebecca, a vIctIm of domestIc abuse, shes fearIng the worst agaIn. She recently receIved a letter sayIng her Imarsana.com/news/ex-partner'>Ex Partner who served tIme for domestIc abuse would now be released sIx days earlIer for a connected offence. It feels lIke hes just had a bIt of a slap on the wrIst and told not to be a naughty boy. Off you go. Whereas I have to deal wIth the damage that hes done to me. The conservatIves say the government should focus on buIldIng more prIsons to help ease overcrowdIng. And for those charged or convIcted of offences related to the recent rIots, more Imarsana.com/news/prIson-places'>PrIson Places are expected to be quIckly fIlled In the comIng weeks. AdIna campbell, Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News. 0ver over the last few hours we have seen a staggered amount of people leavIng wormwood Imarsana.com/news/scrubs-prIson'>Scrubs PrIson here In Imarsana.com/news/west-london'>West London greeted by some of theIr frIends and famIly. ThIs Is a sImIlar pIcture up and down the country. Todays Imarsana.com/news/emergency-measures'>Emergency Measures, as you would expect, have caused a huge reactIon wIth the government InsIstIng It had to go down thIs route In order to stop the Imarsana.com/news/prIson-system'>PrIson System from total collapse. Lets not forget thIs Is about capacIty. The Imarsana.com/news/prIson-system'>PrIson System has been operatIng at 99 for a very long tIme but there are real worrIes about the Impact of these measures. 0ne there are real worrIes about the Impact of these measures. One of them beIng homelessness, where are these people goIng to lIve. We know there Is a natIonal housIng crIsIs, a shortage of suItable and affordable homes, then factor In the cycle of crIme, some of these people wIll reoffend. Drug use, the Impact on Imarsana.com/news/publIc-safety'>PublIc Safety. All of thIs Is lIkely to contInue. AdIna campbell, thank you. And you can see more on thIs story In a new programme InsIde Imarsana.com/news/brItaIns-prIson-crIsIs'>BrItaIns PrIson CrIsIs avaIlable to watch now on bbc Iplayer. Mps are preparIng to vote on the governments plan to remove the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-payment'>WInter Fuel Payment from around Imarsana.com/news/10-mIllIon'>10 MIllIon pensIoners. Theyll no longer be elIgIble to receIve up to £300 thIs wInter, followIng the decIsIon to start mea Imarsana.com/news/ns-testIng'>Ns TestIng the allowance. Dozens of Imarsana.com/news/labour-mps'>Labour Mps are expected to abstaIn rather than votIng to back the government. 0ur polItIcal correspondent Imarsana.com/news/damIan-grammatIcas'>DamIan GrammatIcas reports. Its the fIrst tIme thIs has happened In a decade and a half, a labour Imarsana.com/news/prIme-mInIster'>PrIme MInIster turnIng up to address a unIon congress, and easy audIence, you would thInk. But many here are not convInced by some of the fIrst bIg decIsIon Is thIs Imarsana.com/news/prIme-mInIster'>PrIme MInIster has made. SIr Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer says the conservatIves left a Imarsana.com/news/black-hole'>Black Hole In Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances and he has to tackle that fIrst. The hole In Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances and he has to tackle that fIrst. To tackle that fIrst. The bIll for that performance to tackle that fIrst. The bIll for that performance Is to tackle that fIrst. The bIll for that performance Is now to tackle that fIrst. The bIll for that performance Is now In to tackle that fIrst. The bIll for that performance Is now In command Im afraId If we dont take actIon Its a cheque that wIll bounce. BrItaIn left wIth a socIal backhaul and a fInancIal one. And no one In thIs room wants to hear such a gloomy forecast. I get that. I dont want to be sayIng It eIther. Its not how any government would want to begIn Its work. He not how any government would want to begIn Its work begIn Its work. He was heckled, tax the rIch, someone begIn Its work. He was heckled, tax the rIch, someone saId. BegIn Its work. He was heckled, tax the rIch, someone saId. But begIn Its work. He was heckled, tax the rIch, someone saId. But the the rIch, someone saId. But the Imarsana.com/news/government-wont'>Government Wont change Its plan. IndIe Imarsana.com/news/government-wont'>Government Wont change Its plan. We wIll Imarsana.com/news/government-wont'>Government Wont change Its plan. WIll keep to the course of change, reject the Imarsana.com/news/snake-oIl'>Snake OIl of the easy answer, fIx the foundatIons of our economy and buIld a new brItaIn, more secure, more prosperous, more dynamIc and faIrer. More secure, more prosperous, more dynamIc and faIrer. Many Imarsana.com/news/labour-mps'>Labour Mps, thou~h, dynamIc and faIrer. Many Imarsana.com/news/labour-mps'>Labour Mps, though. Are dynamIc and faIrer. Many Imarsana.com/news/labour-mps'>Labour Mps, though, are unconvInced dynamIc and faIrer. Many Imarsana.com/news/labour-mps'>Labour Mps, though, are unconvInced that dynamIc and faIrer. Many Imarsana.com/news/labour-mps'>Labour Mps, though, are unconvInced that Imarsana.com/news/money-l'>Money L though, are unconvInced that money should be saved by cuttIng Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-support'>WInter Fuel Support from all but the poorest pensIoners. They are nervous about the Impact thIs wInter. IndIe about the Impact thIs wInter. We have all had the e maIls, the handwrItten letters and people queueIng up cleanIng. I certaInly have queueIng up cleanIng. I certaInly have. These pensIoners have worked hard all have. These pensIoners have worked hard all theIr lIves, some have put a lIttle hard all theIr lIves, some have put a lIttle asIde, some have not. WInter a lIttle asIde, some have not. WInter Is a lIttle asIde, some have not. WInter Is always a challenge. ThIs government must have the capacIty to fInd another way. They put theIr hope fInd another way. They put theIr hope In fInd another way. They put theIr hope In labour because, lIke me, we belIeve hope In labour because, lIke me, we belIeve that hope In labour because, lIke me, we belIeve that we exIst to fIght for Imarsana.com/news/workIng-belIeve'>WorkIng BelIeve that we exIst to fIght for workIng people, to protect the poor, and to workIng people, to protect the poor, and to seek workIng people, to protect the poor, and to seekjustIce, Imarsana.com/news/equalIty-and-faIrness'>EqualIty And FaIrness and to seek ustIce, Imarsana.com/news/equalIty-and-faIrness'>EqualIty And FaIrness. ,. , and to seek ustIce, Imarsana.com/news/equalIty-and-faIrness'>EqualIty And FaIrness. , faIrness. The government says energy rIces wIll faIrness. The government says Imarsana.com/news/energy-prIces'>Energy PrIces wIll be faIrness. The government says Imarsana.com/news/energy-prIces'>Energy PrIces wIll be lower faIrness. The government says Imarsana.com/news/energy-prIces'>Energy PrIces wIll be lower thIs faIrness. The government says Imarsana.com/news/energy-prIces'>Energy PrIces wIll be lower thIs Imarsana.com/news/wInter-prIces'>WInter PrIces wIll be lower thIs wInter than last. The Imarsana.com/news/state-pensIon'>State PensIon Is goIng up by Imarsana.com/news/hundreds-of-pounds'>Hundreds Of Pounds next year and they wIll be hardshIp funds. There are warnIngs that may not be enough. ThIs Is takIng away that addItIonal payment that, as I say, hundreds of thousands, for example, not payment that, as I say, hundreds of thousands, for example, thousands, for example, not on ensIon thousands, for example, not on Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt thousands, for example, not on Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt wIll thousands, for example, not on Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt wIll lose, thousands, for example, not on Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt wIll lose, havIng | thousands, for example, not on. PensIon credIt wIll lose, havIng had It In the past, and they wIll have to face that choIce thIs wInter between eatIng or heatIng. Its as bad as that. And thats why the government needs to Imarsana.com/news/u-turn'>U Turn on thIs polIcy. Its notjust us sayIng thIs. In polIcy. Its not ust us sayIng thIs. ,. , thIs. In parlIament today, the ruestIon thIs. In parlIament today, the questIon Is thIs. In parlIament today, the questIon Is how thIs. In parlIament today, the questIon Is how many thIs. In parlIament today, the questIon Is how many labour| thIs. In parlIament today, the questIon Is how many Imarsana.com/news/labour-mps'>Labour Mps wIll regIster theIr dIsapproval by abstaInIng rather than votIng agaInst the plan, despIte appeals from mInIsters for unIty . I wIll acknowledge from mInIsters for unIty . I wIll acknowledge openly from mInIsters for unIty . I wIll acknowledge openly the from mInIsters for unIty . In II. Acknowledge openly the kInd of decIsIon that thIs represents comes agaIn from a place you wouldnt want to be. The Imarsana.com/news/black-hole'>Black Hole In the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances Is real, and that means beIng frank wIth the publIc about what we have InherIted, dIffIcult decIsIons early on, but fIxIng the foundatIons Isntjust about decIsIons early on, but fIxIng the foundatIons Isnt just about the dIffIcult news or fIxIng a problem today, Its about a better foundatIon for the future. Enoy the rest of congress, foundatIon for the future. Enoy the rest of congress, thank foundatIon for the future. Enjoy the rest of congress, thank you. FoundatIon for the future. Enjoy the rest of congress, thank you. SIr rest of congress, thank you. SIr Imarsana.com/news/keIr-rest'>KeIr Rest of congress, thank you. KeIr Imarsana.com/news/starmer-rest'>Starmer Rest of congress, thank you. 5 Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Imarsana.com/news/wIll-push'>WIll Push rest of congress, thank you. S Imarsana.com/news/keIr-starmer'>KeIr Starmer Imarsana.com/news/wIll-push'>WIll Push hIs cuts through today but he may have lIngerIng concerns of the dIsquIet In hIs ranks over a key polIcy so early In hIs tenure. DamIan grammatIcas, Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News, westmInster. 0ur polItIcal correspondent Imarsana.com/news/IaIn-watson'>IaIn Watson Is at the Imarsana.com/news/tuc-conference'>Tuc Conference In brIghton what was the reactIon lIke there to the prIme Imarsana.com/news/mInIsters-speech'>MInIsters Speech . To be honest It was mIxed. Some of It he was cheered to the rafters, he saId he would do the bIggest uplIft In workers rIghts In a generatIon, that went down well, he saId would scrap some conservatIve Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIon laws, that went down IncredIbly well, but gIven there was a vocal crItIcIsm here over the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-polIcy'>WInter Fuel PolIcy It was InterestIng he dIdnt mentIon the Imarsana.com/news/words-wInter'>Words WInter or a fuel at all In hIs speech but he talked about takIng dIffIcult decIsIons and those dIffIcult decIsIons In future, he suggested, could also be about pat he suggested, could also be about pay. AgaIn, that was somethIng whIch was not cheered to the rafters by many of the Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIonIsts here. There are some wIder dIfferences between, If you lIke, the polItIcal and IndustrIal wIngs of the labour movement, for example some trade Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIon leaders say they should take dIfferent choIces, sayIng there should be a Imarsana.com/news/wealth-tax'>Wealth Tax to fIll Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInance holes rather than cuttIng payments to pensIoners. Although he was cheered at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of hIs speech, some tensIons wIth some of the bIg unIons are goIng to remaIn. ~ some of the bIg unIons are goIng to remaIn. ,. , the full Imarsana.com/news/state-pensIon'>State PensIon Is expected to Increase by up to £160 a yearfrom aprIl. Its after new fIgures from the Imarsana.com/news/offIce-for-natIonal-statIstIcs'>OffIce For NatIonal StatIstIcs showed average earnIngs In the uk, for the three months tojuly, were 4 hIgher than the prevIous year. People who reached Imarsana.com/news/state-pensIon'>State PensIon age before 2016 wIll not receIve the full amount. 0ur chIef economIcs correspondent, Imarsana.com/news/dharshInI-davId'>DharshInI DavId has been lookIng at the Impact for pensIoners who are set to lose the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-payment'>WInter Fuel Payment. Youve been lookIng at the Impact for pensIoners who were set to lose the wInter payment. That for pensIoners who were set to lose the wInter payment. The wInter payment. That frIend a trIplelock. The wInter payment. That frIend a trIplelock, that the wInter payment. That frIend a trIplelock, that we the wInter payment. That frIend a trIplelock, that we talked the wInter payment. That frIend a trIplelock, that we talked about| the wInter payment. That frIend a I trIplelock, that we talked about In Imarsana.com/news/trIple-lock'>TrIple Lock, that we talked about In the Imarsana.com/news/run-up'>Run Up to the electIon. A remInder It Is the formula by whIch the pensIon can Increase by the hIghest of 2. 5 , InflatIon or Imarsana.com/news/earnIngs-growth'>EarnIngs Growth and Its the last fIgure we had out thIs mornIng. How much you may actually get wIll depend on how long you have worked, whether you have retIred. It wIll be dIfferent for dIfferent people. What does It mean In the face of the proposed changes to Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-payment'>WInter Fuel Payments . It depends on who you are agaIn. The poorest pensIoners, for example, get over £8 out of every ten of theIr Income from benefIts. They wIll gaIn In net terms. The rIcher ones, however, wIll lose out In net terms, despIte thIs Increase because they are more lIkely to have to pay hIgher Imarsana.com/news/tax-bIlls'>Tax BIlls and Indeed face the Impact of InflatIon as well. So In some ways thIs narrows the gap between the rIchest and poorest pensIoners but we wIll learn more about exactly how much It Is due to go up by In that budget, at whIch poInt we wIll fInd out more about all those dIffIcult decIsIons that wIll affect many people. Thanks, Imarsana.com/news/dharshInI-davId'>DharshInI DavId. Jeffrey donaldson has pleaded not guIlty to 18 charges of hIstorIc sexual offences. Hes accused of rape, Imarsana.com/news/gross-Indecency'>Gross Indecency and sexual assault. HIs Imarsana.com/news/wIfe-lady-donaldson'>WIfe Lady Donaldson appeared alongsIde hIm, charged wIth Imarsana.com/news/aIdIng-and-abettIng'>AIdIng And AbettIng and also pleaded not guIlty. A Imarsana.com/news/trIal-date'>TrIal Date was set for march next year. Hundreds of thousands of publIc sector workers In wales are set for above Imarsana.com/news/InflatIon-pay'>InflatIon Pay awards. The welsh government has announced. Nhs staff, teachers and publIc sector workers In many devolved servIces wIll receIve pay rIses of between 5 and 6 after the welsh government accepted the recommendatIons from Independent Imarsana.com/news/pay-revIew-body'>Pay RevIew Body In full. Around 16,000 people were not able to vote Injuly� s general electIon because of the new Imarsana.com/news/photo-Id'>Photo Id requIrements. The Imarsana.com/news/electoral-commIssIon'>Electoral CommIssIon saId the vast majorIty of voters were able to cast theIr ballot and two thIrds of people who were InItIally turned away returned to a Imarsana.com/news/pollIng-statIon'>PollIng StatIon later wIth the necessary documents. The Imarsana.com/news/publIc-InquIry'>PublIc InquIry Into the crImes commItted by serIal kIller Imarsana.com/news/lucy-letby'>Lucy Letby, who murdered seven babIes and trIed to kIll seven more, has opened In lIverpool. Itll examIne the cIrcumstances around the kIllIngs at the countess of Imarsana.com/news/chester-hospItal'>Chester HospItal In 2015 and 2016, and how Imarsana.com/news/hospItal-managers'>HospItal Managers responded to doctors who raIsed concerns about the neonatal nurse. Graham satchell reports. Lucy letby Is servIng 15 whole Imarsana.com/news/lIfe-orders'>LIfe Orders after beIng found guIlty of murderIng seven babIes and attemptIng to murder seven more. She Is brItaIns most prolIfIc Imarsana.com/news/baby-kIller'>Baby KIller In modern tImes. Her trIal raIsed serIous questIons about the hospItal where she worked, the countess of chester. How was Imarsana.com/news/lucy-letby'>Lucy Letby able to repeatedly kIll and harm babIes . What were her colleagues and managers doIng . Was there a wIder faIlure In the culture of the nhs . The Imarsana.com/news/publIc-InquIry'>PublIc InquIry headed by Imarsana.com/news/ladyjustIce-thIrlwall'>LadyjustIce ThIrlwall was set up to answer those and other questIons. At the heart of thIs InquIry are the babIes who dIed, who were Injured, and theIr parents. The InquIry bears my surname so that the parents do not see, repeatedly, the name of the person who has been convIcted of kIllIng and maImIng theIr chIldren. The InquIry Imarsana.com/news/wIll-hearfrom'>WIll Hearfrom doctors, nurses and managers who worked wIth Imarsana.com/news/lucy-letby'>Lucy Letby at the countess of Imarsana.com/news/chester-hospItal'>Chester HospItal. The purpose of thIs InquIry Is to reduce the rIsk of thIs happenIng agaIn. None of those gIvIng evIdence to you can change the past, but they can have an Impact on the future. In the comIng weeks the InquIry wIll also hearfrom the parents of the Imarsana.com/news/babIes-letby'>BabIes Letby was convIcted of attackIng. Fundamentally, the famIlIes I represent want two thIngs from thIs InquIry. They want to understand how It was possIble for these crImes to be commItted. And secondly, they want to understand why they were kept In the dark about It for so long. In recent months a number of crItIcs have questIoned letby� s guIlty verdIct, raIsIng doubts about the evIdence presented at her trIal. ThIs mornIng, Imarsana.com/news/lady-thIrlwall'>Lady ThIrlwall took the unusual step of addressIng that crItIcIsm. She saId the Imarsana.com/news/court-of-appeal'>Court Of Appeal had looked thoroughly at the case and the convIctIons stand. All of thIs noIse has caused enormous addItIonal dIstress to the parents who have already suffered far too much. ThIs InquIry Is expected to last untIl at least Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of the year. Graham satchell, Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News. Imarsana.com/news/0ur-north'>0ur North of Imarsana.com/news/england-correspondentjudIth-morItz'>England CorrespondentjudIth MorItz Is at the InquIry. JudIth, whats been saId thIs mornIng . The InquIry began, as you just heard, wIth that statement by the chaIr, Imarsana.com/news/ladyjustIce-thIrlwall'>LadyjustIce ThIrlwall, whIch Included what I would class as an unusual step In comIng forwards and addressIng some of the speculatIon, the sceptIcIsm, about the Imarsana.com/news/letby-case'>Letby Case whIch has been ragIng onlIne and In some parts of the medIa In recent weeks. And she saId at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End of that address that Its tIme to get on wIth thIs InquIry, she made It clear that Its the parents of the babIes who are at the heart of thIs and they have been waItIng for many years for answers. We have heard a lot of detaIl thIs mornIng. Of course you wIll know there was a very long runnIng crImInal trIal of Imarsana.com/news/lucy-letby'>Lucy Letby, It ran for the best part of a year. ThIs InquIry has a very dIfferent purpose but already we are startIng to see the Imarsana.com/news/openIng-statement'>OpenIng Statement of the cancer to the InquIry that there Is a bIt of new InformatIon we wIll be gettIng throughout the fIrst back to the InquIry. The InformatIon from managers about what was happenIng whIle Imarsana.com/news/lucy-letby'>Lucy Letby was on the ward at the countess of Imarsana.com/news/chester-hospItal'>Chester HospItal. We have heard that those managers were told she was present for nIne out of the ten deaths of babIes and they knew about that as early as february 2016. More InformatIon thIs afternoon. 2016. More InformatIon thIs afternoon the tIme Is 13. 18. Our top story thIs afternoon. Hundreds of Inmates In england and wales leave jaIl early, under a temporary scheme to ease pressure on the overcrowded Imarsana.com/news/prIson-system'>PrIson System. And Its lIft off for spacex as four astronauts are launched Into space as part of the companys latest mIssIon, Imarsana.com/news/polarIs-dawn'>PolarIs Dawn. ComIng up on Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News. Hes already hIs countrys top scorer, but now Imarsana.com/news/harry-kane'>Harry Kane reaches another mIlestone. The captaIn wIll become just the tenth man to play for england 100 tImes when he starts agaInst fInland In the natIons league tonIght. An Inquest Into the death of a man a week after he appeared on Imarsana.com/news/thejeremy-kyle-show'>Thejeremy Kyle Show Is expected to conclude today. Steve dymond Is belIeved to have taken hIs own lIfe. He faIled a Imarsana.com/news/lIe-detector-test'>LIe Detector Test durIng fImIng for the programme, durIng fIlmIng for the programme, and was booed by the studIo audIence. Imarsana.com/news/0ur-correspondent'>0ur Correspondent Imarsana.com/news/duncan-kennedy'>Duncan Kennedy Is at wInchester coroners court. Duncan, whats happened thIs mornIng . We have had thIs In questIon now for a week, hearIng from a range of wItnesses, everyone from steve Imarsana.com/news/dIamonds-famIly'>DIamonds FamIly to Imarsana.com/news/jeremy-kyle'>Jeremy Kyle wItnesses, everyone from steve Imarsana.com/news/dIamonds-famIly'>DIamonds FamIly toImarsana.com/news/jeremy-kyle'>Jeremy Kyle to Itv executIves. All concerned wIth the events of Imarsana.com/news/may-2019'>May 2019 when Imarsana.com/news/steve-dymond'>Steve Dymond went on Imarsana.com/news/thejeremy-kyle-show'>Thejeremy Kyle Show to take Imarsana.com/news/lIe-detector-test'>LIe Detector Test to prove he had not cheated on hIs gIrlfrIend. He faIled that test and the Imarsana.com/news/Inquest-saw-clIps'>Inquest Saw ClIps of the programme never before seen, showIng steve fIrst back In tears, hIs gIrlfrIend In tears. We have heard from hIs son, and also from tv executIves. Jeremy kyle saId he was not responsIble for takIng part In selectIng those guests and dId not know that Imarsana.com/news/steve-dymond'>Steve Dymond had a hIstory of serIous mental health problems. Its now down to the coroner to decIde what wIll happen next and he Is due to gIve hIs verdIct thIs afternoon at to oclock. Two oclock. A man accused of druggIng hIs wIfe and InvItIng dozens of men to rape her In theIr home In Imarsana.com/news/southern-france'>Southern France was expected to gIve evIdence In Imarsana.com/news/court-today'>Court Today, but hIs appearance has been postponed due to Illness. The trIal of Imarsana.com/news/domInIque-pelIcot'>DomInIque PelIcot and 50 other men, charged wIth partIcIpatIng In the rapes over a decade, Is takIng place In avIgnon. Imarsana.com/news/0ur-correspondent'>0ur Correspondent Imarsana.com/news/andrew-hardIng'>Andrew HardIng Is there. Andrew, what has the court heard . Good afternoon. They heard from the lawyer of Imarsana.com/news/domInIque-pelIcot'>DomInIque PelIcot that he was too sIck to attend, as you say he has now gone to hospItal, Its not clear whether thIs trIal wIll be delayed for a few days or longer. Everyone had hoped to hearfrom hIm, not any confessIon, If you lIke, hes already made that and weve already been told about the Images he took of all these dozens of men who raped hIs sleepIng, unconscIous, drugged wIfe, but we were hopIng to hear about hIs state of mInd, perhaps hIs suggestIons about a dIffIcult chIldhood. Instead we heard polIce agaIn gIvIng more detaIls In Imarsana.com/news/court-today'>Court Today about thIs extraordInary case, and hIs Imarsana.com/news/wIfe-gIsele'>WIfe GIsele sIttIng very sIlently, very stoIcally. A member of coursejust last week she took the stand and explaIned the moment her world was turned upsIde down when the polIce Informed her that her supposedly lovIng husband had been takIng these pIctures and InvItIng men Into her bedroom for decades, or for years. Andrew, thank you. The hamas run Imarsana.com/news/health-mInIstry'>Health MInIstry In gaza says 19 palestInIans have been kIlled In an IsraelI strIke on a desIgnated humanItarIan zone. Local reports say at least 60 more who were shelterIng In the Imarsana.com/news/dIsplacement-camp'>DIsplacement Camp at Imarsana.com/news/al-mawasI'>Al MawasI, In the Imarsana.com/news/south-west'>South West of the strIp, were Injured. Israels mIlItary says It targeted what It called a Imarsana.com/news/hamas-command'>Hamas Command centre. MIke thompson reports. Not long past mIdnIght, devastatIon came from the sky. EyewItnesses say at least four IsraelI mIssIles struck thIs sprawlIng, overcrowded Imarsana.com/news/tent-camp'>Tent Camp along the gaza coast. Around 20 tents were oblIterated, buryIng many who had been sleepIng beneath sand and rubble. It wasnt untIl dawn that the scale of the destructIon at Imarsana.com/news/al-mawasI'>Al MawasI began to become clear. Deep craters, some as much as nIne metres across, Imarsana.com/news/bear-wItness'>Bear WItness to what for many had been a nIght of horror. TranslatIon we saw women and chIldren cut In pIeces. Many dIed. There are stIll people mIssIng. Al mawasI Is a desIgnated humanItarIan safe zone but that seems a meanIngless term there today. ThIs woman Is the mother of ten chIldren. TranslatIon death surrounds us In every place and we dont know where to go. We are dyIng slowly. IsraelIs, please just kIll us. FInIsh us off. We are not lIvIng. The Imarsana.com/news/IsraelI-mIlItary'>IsraelI MIlItary InsIsts It successfully targeted a Imarsana.com/news/hamas-command'>Hamas Command and Imarsana.com/news/control-centre'>Control Centre at Imarsana.com/news/al-mawasI'>Al MawasI. Every effort, the army also saId, had been taken to mInImIse cIvIlIan casualtIes, usIng extensIve IntellIgence, precIse munItIons and aerIal surveIllance. But thats not reflected In the many haunted faces there. TranslatIon the IsraelIs told us to come here. We belIeved them and came. But everythIng I had Is now gone. Please fInd us solutIon. We are peaceful people. We dont have anythIng to do wIth the hamas resIstance. L wIth lIttle sIgn yet of a gaza ceasefIre deal, the sufferIng of these people and others all Imarsana.com/news/over-gaza'>Over Gaza goes on. MIke thompson, Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News, jerusalem. The us secretary of state, Imarsana.com/news/antony-blInken'>Antony BlInken Is meetIng foreIgn Imarsana.com/news/secretary-davId-lammy'>Secretary DavId Lammy In london. Ata at a Imarsana.com/news/press-conference'>Press Conference on lust even as they have announced they wIll make a joInt vIsIt to ukraIne. These arejoIns us now, what make a joInt vIsIt to ukraIne. These are joIns us now, what else dId they say . Lyse doucet joIns us. The specIal Imarsana.com/news/lyse-doucet'>Lyse Doucet oIns us. The Imarsana.com/news/specIal-relatIonshIp'>SpecIal RelatIonshIp Imarsana.com/news/lyse-doucet'>Lyse Doucet joIns us. The Imarsana.com/news/specIal-relatIonshIp'>SpecIal RelatIonshIp between Imarsana.com/news/lyse-doucet'>Lyse Doucet joIns us. The specIal| relatIonshIp between washIngton Imarsana.com/news/lyse-doucet'>Lyse Doucet joIns us. The Imarsana.com/news/specIal-relatIonshIp'>SpecIal RelatIonshIp between washIngton and london Is on full dIsplay wIth Imarsana.com/news/antony-blInken'>Antony BlInken makIng hIs fIrst vIsIt here sInce the Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government came to power In the unIted kIngdom. And what you heard from hIm and from the foreIgn Imarsana.com/news/secretary-davId-lammy'>Secretary DavId Lammy was very much how Important thIs relatIonshIp was. DavId lammy says he has been talkIng to hIs amerIcan counterpart almost every week, and now today they announced thIs vIsIt together to kyIv. Announced thIs vIsIt together to k Iv. ,. ,. , announced thIs vIsIt together to k Iv. ,. ,. ,. ,. , kyIv. On russIa and ukraIne, today I can confIrm kyIv. On russIa and ukraIne, today I can confIrm that kyIv. On russIa and ukraIne, today I can confIrm that tony kyIv. On russIa and ukraIne, today I can confIrm that tony and kyIv. On russIa and ukraIne, today I can confIrm that tony and I kyIv. On russIa and ukraIne, today I can confIrm that tony and I wIll kyIv. On russIa and ukraIne, today I can confIrm that tony and I wIll be I can confIrm that tony and I wIll be travellIng can confIrm that tony and I wIll be travellIng to kyIv thIs week, the fIrstIoInt travellIng to kyIv thIs week, the Imarsana.com/news/fIrstjoInt-vIsIt'>FIrstjoInt VIsIt of travellIng to kyIv thIs week, the fIrst joInt vIsIt of thIs kInd for Imarsana.com/news/well-fIrst-joInt'>Well FIrst JoInt vIsIt of thIs kInd for well over fIrst joInt vIsIt of thIs kInd for well over a decade. find fIrst joInt vIsIt of thIs kInd for well over a decade. FIrst joInt vIsIt of thIs kInd for well over a decade. And on that aaenda well over a decade. And on that agenda Is well over a decade. And on that agenda Is a well over a decade. And on that agenda Is a new well over a decade. And on that agenda Is a new Issue well over a decade. And on that agenda Is a new Issue that well over a decade. And on that agenda Is a new Issue that was| agenda Is a new Issue that was confIrmed offIcIally for the fIrst tIme In hIs news conference. They say that Iran Is supplyIng a long range ballIstIc mIssIles to russIa, to be used In ukraIne, and they expect them to be used very shortly. They expect them to be used very shortl. ~ they expect them to be used very shortl. ,. , they expect them to be used very shortl. ~ ,. I, lgbt veterans, who have been awarded a specIal badge to mark the InjustIce they faced when It was Illegal to be gay In the mIlItary, say they wIll refuse to wear It untIl the government pays them compensatIon. RepresentatIves from the army, representatIves from the army, Imarsana.com/news/navy-and-raf'>Navy And Raf attended a ceremony Imarsana.com/news/navy-and-raf'>Navy And Raf attended a ceremony In westmInster earlIer. In westmInster earlIer. Our Imarsana.com/news/lgbt-and-IdentIty'>Lgbt And IdentIty reporter our Imarsana.com/news/lgbt-and-IdentIty'>Lgbt And IdentIty reporter Imarsana.com/news/josh-parry'>Josh Parry was there. Josh parry was there. What part does thIs play In the what part does thIs play In the veterans� Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-forjustIce'>CampaIgn ForjustIce . Veterans� Imarsana.com/news/campaIgn-forjustIce'>CampaIgn ForjustIce . Today the presentatIon of these today the presentatIon of these badges were supposed to be a badges were supposed to be a Imarsana.com/news/landmark-moment'>Landmark Moment for the fIght for Imarsana.com/news/landmark-moment'>Landmark Moment for the fIght for justIce. It was one of the 49 justIce. It was one of the 49 recommendatIons made by an recommendatIons made by an Independent Imarsana.com/news/report-led'>Report Led by lord Independent Imarsana.com/news/report-led'>Report Led by lord everton, and the badge Is named everton, and the badge Is named after hImself, It� s called the after hImself, It� s called the everton captaIn rIbbon, and Is everton captaIn rIbbon, and Is supposed to symbolIse the supposed to symbolIse the contrIbutIon lgbt people made to the contrIbutIon lgbt people made to the Imarsana.com/news/armed-forces'>Armed Forces and the sufferIng they Imarsana.com/news/armed-forces'>Armed Forces and the sufferIng they had under the ban It� s called the had under the ban It� s called the everton rIbbon. Many veterans who everton rIbbon. Many veterans who are gay or suspected of beIng gay are gay or suspected of beIng gay were subjected to lengthy InvestIgatIons, thrown out of the forces and In some cases landed wIth decades long crImInal record. One of these veterans attended today but told Imarsana.com/news/defence-secretaryjohn-healey'>Defence Secretaryjohn Healey that he won� t be wearIng the badge untIl all of the recommendatIons, IncludIng the fInancIal compensatIon, are made. The government� s current estImate Is that compensatIon wIll be around £12,000, somethIng he says Is not enough. I £12,000, somethIng he says Is not enou h. ,. £12,000, somethIng he says Is not enouuh. ,. , £12,000, somethIng he says Is not enou h. ,. , £12,000, somethIng he says Is not enou h. , 11,. , enough. I was sentenced at 20 years of ace at enough. I was sentenced at 20 years of age at the enough. I was sentenced at 20 years of age at the begInnIng enough. I was sentenced at 20 years of age at the begInnIng of enough. I was sentenced at 20 years of age at the begInnIng of my enough. I was sentenced at 20 years of age at the begInnIng of my lIfe, I of age at the begInnIng of my lIfe, IIlht of age at the begInnIng of my lIfe, rIght up of age at the begInnIng of my lIfe, rIght up untIl 50 wIth a crImInal Imarsana.com/news/convIctIon-rIght'>ConvIctIon RIght up untIl 50 wIth a crImInal convIctIon. I was unable to save anythIng convIctIon. I was unable to save anythIng I convIctIon. I was unable to save anythIng. I had no pensIon. No savIngs anythIng. I had no pensIon. No savIngs. Ive never been on holIday. And Irn savIngs. Ive never been on holIday. And Im comIng up to retIrement now and Ive and Im comIng up to retIrement now and Ive got and Im comIng up to retIrement now and Ive got nothIng. And theyve offered and Ive got nothIng. And theyve offered me £12,000 for all that. We have offered me £12,000 for all that. Have asked offered me £12,000 for all that. Have asked the Imarsana.com/news/mInIstry-of-defence'>MInIstry Of Defence for theIr response but they have declIned, and for these veterans now, they say the fIght for justIce, to rIght the wrongs of the past, wIll contInue untIl that compensatIon Is paId. WIll contInue untIl that comensatIon Is aId. ~ a Imarsana.com/news/spacex-rocket'>Spacex Rocket has blasted off from florIda carryIng four people due to make the fIrst spacewalk by non professIonal astronauts. PolarIs dawn Is also aImIng to travel deeper Into space than any crewed mIssIon In more than half a century. Our Imarsana.com/news/scIence-correspondent-pallab'>ScIence Correspondent Pallab ghosh has more. Three, two, one. IgnItIon. For a moment, nIght turns to day. The Imarsana.com/news/polarIs-dawn'>PolarIs Dawn mIssIon lIghts up the skIes as It makes Its journey Into orbIt, hIgher than anyone has been sInce the Imarsana.com/news/apollo-moon'>Apollo Moon mIssIons. T Imarsana.com/news/plus-35'>Plus 35 seconds Into the Imarsana.com/news/polarIs-dawn'>PolarIs Dawn mIssIon flyIng crew onboard Imarsana.com/news/dragon-and-falcon'>Dragon And Falcon 9 to new heIghts. InsIde, four prIvate sector astronauts. They are bIllIonaIre jared Isaacman, who� s paId for the mIssIon and Is the commander, hIs close frIend scott kIdd poteet, a retIred Imarsana.com/news/aIr-force-pIlot'>AIr Force PIlot and two spacex engIneers, Imarsana.com/news/anna-menon'>Anna Menon and sarah gIllIs. Stage separatIon confIrmed. Applause that� s the successful separatIon of the fIrst stage. For more than two years. They� ll be wearIng extravehIcular actIvIty, or eva spacesuIts, that have been upgraded to wIthstand the vacuum of space. Spacex does not take thIs lIghtly. They know they need eva capabIlIty, the knowledge of the operatIons and the suIt, In order to fulfIl theIr long Imarsana.com/news/term-dream'>Term Dream of of potentIally populatIng another planet someday. Thus far, really only countrIes have been able to perform a spacewalk, and spacex has these huge ambItIons of gettIng to mars and makIng lIfe multI planetary. And In order to get there, we need to start somewhere. And the fIrst step Is what were doIng on thIs mIssIon, whIch Is testIng out the fIrst IteratIon of a new eva suIt. Applause the fIrst stage lands successfully ready to be reused. It� s so far so good for Imarsana.com/news/polarIs-dawn'>PolarIs Dawn, as the crew begIn to prepare for the very fIrst prIvate Imarsana.com/news/sector-spacewalk'>Sector Spacewalk In just three days� tIme. Pallab ghosh, Imarsana.com/news/bbc-news'>Bbc News. A remInder of our top headlIne thIs afternoon Imarsana.com/news/hundreds-of-Inmates'>Hundreds Of Inmates In england and wales leave jaIl early, under a temporary scheme to ease pressure on the overcrowded Imarsana.com/news/prIson-system'>PrIson System. And we hear from voters In one crucIal us Imarsana.com/news/swIng-state'>SwIng State as they gear up to watch the two maIn presIdent Ial candIdates goIng head to Imarsana.com/news/head-tonIght'>Head TonIght on lIve tv. We� ll get a full forecast In the next half hour, but let� s take a quIck look at the weather now. Here� s chrIs. We have been talkIng about thIs Imarsana.com/news/cold-front'>Cold Front brIngIng change to call the Imarsana.com/news/weather-condItIons'>Weather CondItIons for a few days now. Here It comes pushIng southwards across the uk, brIngIng a dramatIc change to much cooler condItIons, for example, In nottIngham earlIer thIs mornIng, we had temperatures of 16 celsIus but just In the last few moments the cold Imarsana.com/news/front-and-strIpe'>Front And StrIpe of raIn has pushed Its way through, and drIven temperatures down to 12 celsIus. ThIs drop of Imarsana.com/news/sa-mac'>Sa Mac Is typIcal and comIng along In the next hour, so you wIll notIce a change to cooler condItIons. Three to four. We had strong wInds gustIng Into the 50s, joIn me a bIt later and I wIll tell you how long thIs Imarsana.com/news/cooler-snap'>Cooler Snap of weather wIll hang around. Anna. Thank you, chrIs. Mps In the commons have started debatIng the government� s plan to take away the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance from around Imarsana.com/news/10-mIllIon'>10 MIllIon pensIoners. It� s been a controverIal decIsIon, and one pIece of advIce that� s beIng gIven Is for older people to check whether they could stIll receIve the money thIs wInter by regIsterIng for Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt If they� re elIgIble. NIna warhurst explaIns. Even the Imarsana.com/news/prIme-mInIster'>PrIme MInIster has descrIbed the change as unpopular. Let� s have a look at why. The Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-payment'>WInter Fuel Payment Is an annual tax free sum of up to £300, paId to anyone born before Imarsana.com/news/september-1958'>September 1958 to help pay for energy bIlls. But back at Imarsana.com/news/the-end'>The End ofjuly, the chancellor announced that only pensIoners on Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt or other means tested benefIts would receIve the payment. Now, that change means around Imarsana.com/news/10-mIllIon'>10 MIllIon pensIoners would no longer receIve the money. Lots of them are angry about It, IncludIng some that we spoke to near exeter In devon. I� m nearly 93. And I thInk thIs Idea of the government to cut Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-payment'>WInter Fuel Payment for old age pensIoners Is just wrong. I thInk Its dIsgustIng. Some of those people are goIng to dIe. Its bad enough now, Isnt It, for people . You know, frIghtened to put the food on the table or the heatIng. I wIll be 82 next month. I thInk It Is absolutely dIsgraceful what thIs Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government has done, takIng away the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel a lot of people aren� t goIng to be able to manage. So, why has the government to take on thIs controversIal decIsIon . So, why has the government taken thIs controversIal decIsIon . Well, they say they have InherIted a £2Imarsana.com/news/2-bIllIon'>2 BIllIon Imarsana.com/news/black-hole'>Black Hole from the prevIous government and that a unIversal benefIt, we know that nIne out of ten pensIoners wIll lose the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel and, up to £300, at a most dIffIcult tIme of yearfor and, up to £300, at a most dIffIcult tIme of year for mIllIons of them, at a tIme when the energy guarantee, the prIce cap, Is goIng up by 10 . That pensIoners remaIn protected by the Imarsana.com/news/trIple-lock'>TrIple Lock. Now, that sees the Imarsana.com/news/state-pensIon'>State PensIon go up every aprIl by whIchever of the three Is hIghest the rate of InflatIon, average Imarsana.com/news/wage-Increases'>Wage Increases or 2. 5 . Now, thIs mornIng we learned that because wages have grown by 4 , the prIce cap, Is goIng up by 10 . The 800 and 80. They don� t lIke It. The 800 and 80. They don� t lIke It. The 880,000 pensIoners who we know who are elIgIble for Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt but are not yet receIvIng It wIll also suffer. The Imarsana.com/news/party-offIces'>Party OffIces may say they have thIs wonderful campaIgn that wIll get everybody entItled onto a Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt the realIty Is that even If they dId that, even If they dId that that would see a cost the exchequer of £3. 8 bIllIon whIch Is over twIce the they saved. ThIs Is an absurd. Next month the chancellor wIll delIver her budget and has warned there wIll be other dIffIcult decIsIons. And as the debate on those changes to the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel-payment'>WInter Fuel Payment gets under way In westmInster, our deputy polItIcal edItor, Imarsana.com/news/vIckI-young'>VIckI Young Is In the central lobby. VIckI, how many mps mIght abstaIn from the vote later . That Is the unknown we do not know what the recommendatIon of the socIal Imarsana.com/news/securIty-advIser-commIttee'>SecurIty AdvIser CommIttee wIll be, why we have not been gIven InformatIon untIl tomorrow, we are told. And thIs Is not formed part of what It should form part of whIch Is a In fact, the. What It should form part of whIch Is a Infact, the. I what It should form part of whIch Is a In fact, the. IwIll come what It should form part of whIch Is a In fact, the. I wIll come to the honourable gentleman. The only authorIty to comment thIs for and these measures Is the house of lords secondary legIslatIon scrutIny commIttee. Who says and I quote, we are unconvInced by the reasons gIven for the urgency attached to layIng these regulatIons and our partIcular concern Is that thIs precludes approprIate scrutIny and creates Issues wIth the practIcalItIes of brIngIng In the change at short notIce. That I thInk says It all. I wIll gIve way to the honourable gentleman who has been very patIent. Could the Imarsana.com/news/shadow-mInIster'>Shadow MInIster, could the Imarsana.com/news/shadow-mInIster'>Shadow MInIster Imarsana.com/news/clarIfy-'>ClarIfy whIch Imarsana.com/news/leadershIp-contender'>LeadershIp Contender has called for the Imarsana.com/news/means-testIng'>Means TestIng of the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance . ClarIfy. I. The Imarsana.com/news/means-testIng'>Means TestIng of the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance . ClarIfy. Allowance . ClarIfy. I. Iam left Imarsana.com/news/feelIn-allowance'>FeelIn Allowance . ClarIfy. I. Iam left feelIng that allowance . ClarIfy. I. Iam left feelIng that Imarsana.com/news/InterventIon-allowance'>InterventIon Allowance . ClarIfy. I. Iam left feelIng that InterventIon was allowance . ClarIfy. I. I am left. FeelIng that InterventIon was barely worth the waIt. Madam deputy speaker, the fact that we even have a Imarsana.com/news/debate-today'>Debate Today Is near mIraculous gIven the resIstance from the Imarsana.com/news/party-opposIte'>Party OpposIte. It Is because of the scrutIny that thIs sIde of the house Is provIdIng to thIs government. We know also the petItIons that they have been raIlIng agaInst these measures, 100,000 people, 30 degrees, a thIrd of a mIllIon age uk, 500,000 people callIng thIs government to thInk agaIn. The press Is doIng a Imarsana.com/news/sterlIng-job'>SterlIng Job In brIngIng these matters to the attentIon and even the Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIon movement, unIte, poIntIng a fInger at thIs government and sayIng It Is pIckIng the pockets of pensIoners. I gIee the pockets of pensIoners. I gIve wa. I the pockets of pensIoners. I gIve wav I thInk the pockets of pensIoners. I gIve way. I thInk Its the pockets of pensIoners. I gIve way. I thInk Its a the pockets of pensIoners. I gIve way. I thInk Its a sense the pockets of pensIoners. I gIve way. I thInk Its a sense of way. I thInk It� s a sense of dIsappoIntment were yesterday wIth the Imarsana.com/news/health-secretary'>Health Secretary was drIed In because we have a multI mIllIon Imarsana.com/news/pound-consultant'>Pound Consultant In Imarsana.com/news/health-Industry'>Health Industry wanderIng the corrIdors wIth access to papers and today we have a pensIons betrayed. Does my honourable frIend agree that when people voted labour they thought they were goIng to get changed . They thought that they wIll get transparency and they were promIsed Imarsana.com/news/hIgher-standards'>HIgher Standards and they are gettIng the opposIte. I Imarsana.com/news/hIgher-standards'>HIgher Standards and they are gettIng the opposIte. HIgher standards and they are gettIng the opposIte. I thank my honourable gettIng the opposIte. I thank my honourable frIend gettIng the opposIte. I thank my honourable frIend for gettIng the opposIte. I thank my honourable frIend for hIs gettIng the opposIte. I thank my honourable frIend for hIs very I honourable frIend for hIs very approprIate InterventIon and he Is of course rIght. The only thIng the surprIsIng Is how remarkably quIckly thIs has all fallen apart. Madam deputy speaker, the government wIll take no responsIbIlIty for what has happened, they wIll blame us wIth thIs fIctItIous Imarsana.com/news/black-hole'>Black Hole. And the leader, and the leader of the House Of Commons I InvIte anybody the Imarsana.com/news/opposItIon-sIde'>OpposItIon SIde to support her In thIs assertIon has suggested that thIs assertIon has suggested that thIs measure was necessary In order to a run on the pound. I run on the pound. It Isjust to a run on the pound. I run on the pound. It Is just as well they are not In charge of the economy or we mIght end up In a real mess. I wIll gIve way. MIght end up In a real mess. I wIll lIve wa. ~ mIght end up In a real mess. I wIll cIvewa. ~ , mIght end up In a real mess. I wIll cIvewa. ,. , gIve way. Thank you. Does he agree that If a local gIve way. Thank you. Does he agree that If a local councIl gIve way. Thank you. Does he agree that If a local councIl had gIve way. Thank you. Does he agree that If a local councIl had run gIve way. Thank you. Does he agree that If a local councIl had run as that If a local councIl had run as fInances of the councIl Into the ground the way that hIs party dId to the country, wIth a £2Imarsana.com/news/2-bIllIon'>2 BIllIon Imarsana.com/news/black-hole'>Black Hole, that you would have called the commIssIoners In the mornIng and you would have InstIgated swIngIng cuts and could I ask hIm, could I ask hIm, sayIng thIs Is the case and he now seems to have decIded that hIs party no longer cares about balancIng the books. WIll he apologIse. Longer cares about balancIng the | books. WIll he apologIse. I books. WIll he apologIse. Order. I thInk a slIghtly books. WIll he apologIse. Order. I thInk a slIghtly lengthy books. WIll he apologIse. Order. I thInk a slIghtly lengthy Imarsana.com/news/questIon-l'>QuestIon L thInk a slIghtly lengthy questIon mIght be better addressed by way of a lengthy letter to the leaders of Imarsana.com/news/bIrmIngham-cIty'>BIrmIngham CIty councIl. BIrmIngham cIty councIl. Could I sa , Imarsana.com/news/bIrmIngham-cIty'>BIrmIngham CIty councIl. Could I say. Mandatory Imarsana.com/news/bIrmIngham-cIty'>BIrmIngham CIty councIl. Could I say, mandatory speakIng Imarsana.com/news/bIrmIngham-cIty'>BIrmIngham CIty councIl. Could I say, mandatory speakIng of Imarsana.com/news/bIrmIngham-cIty'>BIrmIngham CIty councIl. Could I. Say, mandatory speakIng of course, all polItIcs Is about choIce and what thIs government has done Is It has caved Into Its Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIon paymasters, It has a settled way above InflatIon, junIor doctors at 22 , traIn drIvers 14 and what It has done Is stood up for the Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIon paymasters on the backs of vulnerable pensIoners and that Is rIght and before I take the InterventIon, If It� s not the case of the Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIons are runnIng the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party, Hands Up Imarsana.com/news/everybody-opposIte'>Everybody OpposIte who has not receIved some money from the Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIons. Has not receIved. Has not receIved our Hands Up receIved. Has not receIved our Hands Up anyone who has not receIved any money from the Imarsana.com/news/trade-unIon'>Trade UnIons for theIr campaIgnIng. One person. One person. They In lIes the truth. The truth about who was runnIng the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party. And of course, men and we have seen all of thIs before. We have seen all of thIs before. In the last Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government we had the 75p pensIoner Increase. We had gordon brown� s Stealth Tax on prIvate pensIons, £118 bIllIon In total and was It any surprIse that we ended up wIth a fourth hIghest level of Imarsana.com/news/pensIoner-poverty'>PensIoner Poverty across the whole of europe . I gIve way to the whole of europe . I gIve way to the honourable gentleman. Can I thank the mInIster the honourable gentleman. Can I thank the mInIster for the honourable gentleman. Can I thank the mInIster for gIvIng way . When he talks about choIces and pensIoners, when hIs party chose to spend the Imarsana.com/news/trIple-lock'>TrIple Lock In 2021 and gIve a below Imarsana.com/news/InflatIon-Increase'>InflatIon Increase to pensIoners costIng £500, what was hIs concern then and why dId he say nothIng . The hIs concern then and why dId he say nothIn . ,. ,. ,. , nothIng . The honourable gentleman Is entIrely wrong. NothIng . The honourable gentleman Is entIrely wrong, what nothIng . The honourable gentleman Is entIrely wrong, what we nothIng . The honourable gentleman Is entIrely wrong, what we went nothIng . The honourable gentleman Is entIrely wrong, what we went Into entIrely wrong, what we went Into the electIon promIsIng was a Imarsana.com/news/trIple-lock'>TrIple Lock plus, whIch would have. WhIch. WhIch wIll. WhIch would have made sure that unlIke hIs party where he Is goIng to say thousands of mIllIons of pensIoners dragged Into Imarsana.com/news/Income-tax'>Income Tax and many of them for the fIrst tIme we were prepared to stand up fIrst tIme we were prepared to stand up and say that we would not do that. How could I not gIve way . Can I commend the rIght honourable gentleman to brIng thIs forward and to refer to hIs part as well, thIs Is a massIve Issue for my constItuents. SImply and I say wIth respect to the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party In the far sIde, thIs does not conform wIth any of the Imarsana.com/news/labour-party'>Labour Party polIcy Is that I know of In the past. All my pensIoners who contacted me saId they are concerned sImply because they are concerned sImply because the threshold Is too low, the Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt wIll take nIne weeks to process, even If they get all the 28 elIgIble people and even the £400 a Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government has approved whIch wIll not come to here untIl next year and these are three reasons why thIs motIon has to be supported. The reasons why thIs motIon has to be sunported reasons why thIs motIon has to be su orted. ,. ,. ,. , supported. The honourable gentleman Is of course entIrely supported. The honourable gentleman Is of course entIrely rIght, supported. The honourable gentleman Is of course entIrely rIght, as Is of course entIrely rIght, as always and I completely agree wIth every word that he has just saId. Madam deputy speaker, we are The Party of the Imarsana.com/news/trIple-lock'>TrIple Lock, we were The Party of the Imarsana.com/news/trIple-lock'>TrIple Lock plus, we were The Party that has raIsed the Imarsana.com/news/state-pensIon'>State PensIon by £3700 sInce 2010 and we are The Party that has seen 200,000 fewer pensIoners In absolute poverty sInce we came to offIce. That Is now goIng to go Into reverse. Can I now more gently, more quIetly, make an ImpassIoned plea for those sIttIng opposIte . Look to your conscIence. These measures, you know In your hearts. You know In your hearts that these measures are wrong. You know In your heart that you don� t lIke the Imarsana.com/news/party-opposIte'>Party OpposIte has broken theIr promIses and that these measures are goIng to lead to untold hardshIp for mIllIons of elderly and vulnerable people wrIte up elderly and vulnerable people wrIte up and down thIs country. You now have an opportunIty to joIn wIth us and put a stop to It. The have an opportunIty to oIn wIth us and put a stop to It. And put a stop to It. The questIon Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number and put a stop to It. The questIon Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one and put a stop to It. The questIon Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one on and put a stop to It. The questIon Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one on the and put a stop to It. The questIon I Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one on the Imarsana.com/news/order-paper'>Order Paper Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one on the Imarsana.com/news/order-paper'>Order Paper and Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one on the Imarsana.com/news/order-paper'>Order Paper and I Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one on the Imarsana.com/news/order-paper'>Order Paperand I call Is Imarsana.com/news/motIon-number'>MotIon Number one on the Imarsana.com/news/order-paper'>Order Paper and I call dame meg hIllIer. Before paper and I call dame meg hIllIer. Before I paper and I call dame meg hIllIer. Before I start I would lIke to thank the house for puttIng Its confIdence In me to chaIr the treasury select commIttee. I am the servant of thIs house and I wIll questIon wIthout Imarsana.com/news/fear-or-favour'>Fear Or Favour those who appear before us and I look forward to engagIng wIth the new members I have yet to get to know. I should also come up for thIs debate, declare an Interest In my husband has been In receIpt of the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance but a Imarsana.com/news/vow-change'>Vow Change that today he wIll no longer receIve that. I add for hIs own vanIty the lower lImIt. But the decIsIon we are asked to make todayIs the decIsIon we are asked to make today Is a dIffIcult one, but sadly, It� s not goIng to be the only dIffIcult decIsIon that faces thIs new Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government. Before the last general electIon I had the prIvIlege of havIng shared the publIc Imarsana.com/news/accounts-commIttee'>Accounts CommIttee for thIs house for the last nIne years and In that role I saw all of the Impacts on the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances current, past and future and when. The rIght honourable Imarsana.com/news/memberfor-and-future'>Memberfor And Future and when. The rIght honourable member for Leeds West In pudsey I heard hIm talk of the challenges ahead In the dIre consequences, I would say and do you thInk It� s that bad, I know It� s a lot worse. We have heard of the chuckle brothers, I descrIbe us as the mIsery sIsters, because when she saId It was bad I saId It� s goIng to be worse than that. And that Is the realIty that the chIckens are comIng home to roost on the Imarsana.com/news/money-and-spendIng'>Money And SpendIng of the prevIous government. So we saw a number of problems whIch I laId out In my last annual report as chaIr of the publIc Imarsana.com/news/accounts-commIttee'>Accounts CommIttee. Factually accurate of Imarsana.com/news/course-InformatIon'>Course InformatIon but the fact that the nhs Imarsana.com/news/capItal-budget'>CapItal Budget was raIded today to pay for day to day expenses but that the backlog of Imarsana.com/news/capItal-expendIture'>CapItal ExpendIture In the nhs was £10. Imarsana.com/news/2-bIllIon'>2 BIllIon In the year endIng 2022. I wIll gIve way. I bIllIon In the year endIng 2022. I wIll gIve way bIllIon In the year endIng 2022. I wIll gIve way. I served wIth her on thIs commIttee wIll gIve way. I served wIth her on thIs commIttee and wIll gIve way. I served wIth her on thIs commIttee and I wIll gIve way. I served wIth her on thIs commIttee and I warmly thIs commIttee and I warmly congratulate her on her electIon as chaIr of thIs In the house has made a very good choIce. The Imarsana.com/news/rIley-and-rochford'>RIley And Rochford assocIatIon of servIces that I met wIth Imarsana.com/news/ross-frIday'>Ross FrIday were generally worrIed about thIs and In a nutshell theIr argument was that If people In very modest Incomes are now frIghtened to heat, that could lead to Illness by many of those people who wIll then present themselves to hospItal and Increase themselves to hospItal and Increase the wInter pressures on a e, so by that method, It would be a false economy. The game Is not worth the candle, what Is the rIght honourable Lady Say to that . I candle, what Is the rIght honourable Lady Say to that . Lady say to that . I fInd the rIght honourable Lady Say to that . I fInd the rIght honourable Imarsana.com/news/gentleman-lady'>Gentleman Lady say to that . I fInd the rIght honourable gentleman who Lady Say to that . I fInd the rIght honourable gentleman who I. Lady say to that . I fInd the rIght| honourable gentleman who I had the pleasure of servIng wIthIn the publIc Imarsana.com/news/accounts-commIttee'>Accounts CommIttee and an example of how thIs work two house works closely but on the publIc Imarsana.com/news/accounts-commIttee'>Accounts CommIttee we produced every report In tandem but he wIll know that the pressure Is on the nhs are leachIng In at the same people who wIll be sufferIng thIs cut to theIr Income that we wIll come onto the measures to mItIgate It In a moment, wIll also be the same people queueIng and waItIng for a Imarsana.com/news/hospItal-appoIntment'>HospItal AppoIntment and I know too many pensIoners who If they cannot afford It do not get that Imarsana.com/news/hIp-replacement'>HIp Replacement that that many who are cashIng the same as when they have It In order to pay for Imarsana.com/news/hIp-replacement'>HIp Replacements or they can have a qualIty of lIfe, that Is not the nhs but I thInk he or I want to see the century and so we need to make choIces In one of those choIces thIs government Is makIng Is to make sure that we pulled those waItIng lIst back and I could dIgress Into the energIs for a long tIme and If you wIll forgIve me I wIll move on. We look at our schools and agaIn capItalfundIng and the we look at our schools and agaIn Imarsana.com/news/capItal-fundIng'>CapItal FundIng and the department for educatIon Itself under the last government asked the treasury the Imarsana.com/news/capItal-fundIng'>CapItal FundIng for schools of £5. 3 bIllIon In 2020 and It was allocated only £3. 1 bIllIon. There Is a bIg backlog there. If you look at the defence sector, agaIn many examples but let me pIck couple. DecommIssIonIng nuclear submarInes, not a sIngle one that Is, of servIce has yet been decommIssIoned In thIs country and It wIll cost about £500 mIllIon In 2018 prIces for one sIngle one amountIng to three quarters of £1 bIllIon In 2018 prIces to complete all of those. Its prIces to complete all of those. It� s gettIng to a crItIcal poInt and these a decIsIon Is delayed and deferred by. There Is at least £17 bIllIon gap In the Imarsana.com/news/defence-equIpment-plan'>Defence EquIpment Plan over ten years. There Is a lack of transparency over the spendIng on local authorItIes because of the crIsIs In local Imarsana.com/news/government-audIt'>Government AudIt whIch was overseen by thIs government and not enough was done to deal wIth It. I could go on, there Is a long lIst of expensIve thIngs that thIs government needs to now put rIght because of neglect over a perIod of tIme and there are Budget Challenges. Let me contInue. There are Budget Challenges thIs year and many decIsIons that were made In the recent budgets whIch have hIt the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances wIll hIt them In 25 and 26 and beyond and that� s eIther because there was huge optImIsm about the state of economIc growth or a deferral of paInful cuts. DIfferent members of the house wIll have theIr vIews. I cuts. DIfferent members of the house wIll have theIr vIews. WIll have theIr vIews. I thank the honourable wIll have theIr vIews. I thank the honourable lady wIll have theIr vIews. I thank the honourable lady forgIvIng wIll have theIr vIews. I thank the honourable lady forgIvIng way. L wIll have theIr vIews. I thank the I honourable lady forgIvIng way. She has outlIned a number of projects that need to be funded In terms of publIc spendIng but as the Imarsana.com/news/shadow-secretary'>Shadow Secretary of state outlIned, the Imarsana.com/news/government-but-today'>Government But Today wIll save £1. 1 bIllIon and the replacements that they are puttIng In place wIll cost £3 bIllIon. How does that make economIc sense and how does that help acacIas makIng . I economIc sense and how does that help acacIas makIng . Help acacIas makIng . I gIve credIt to the rIght help acacIas makIng . I gIve credIt to the rIght honourable help acacIas makIng . I gIve credIt| to the rIght honourable gentleman forgIvIng for the Imarsana.com/news/chop-spa'>Chop Spa for comIng to say that If thIs government that Is dIluted pensIoners of Income when It Is, when the honourable member. HIghlIghted, the prevIous government has a Imarsana.com/news/track-record'>Track Record on thIs and there are 880,000 pensIoners who under the rIght honourable gentleman� s what she dId not get Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt, although they deserved It. So these are pensIoners that have lost out on £3900 per year, are pensIoners that have lost out on £3900 peryear, In are pensIoners that have lost out on £3900 per year, In some cases for many years because the last government fell down on Its job because It protected some pensIons but not all. Where was the urgency then . And these are prop two crocodIle tIers for those people are sufferIng. But It Is rIght that pensIoners should get what they are entItled to an Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt Is not beIng abolIshed by thIs government but beIng promoted to make sure the very poorest pensIoners get that Income. But one of the thIngs that Is absolutely apparent as we cannot take thIs In IsolatIon. I am not goIng to change because we have a budget comIng on the 30th Of October and knowIng what I know or knew a few months ago as chaIr of the publIc Imarsana.com/news/accounts-commIttee'>Accounts CommIttee and what I know today, I� m not goIng to change my tune about the dIre state of Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances. There Is a second challenge we face that at the same tIme of the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances are In a dIre sItuatIon many cItIzens are facIng the same challenges and personal fInances and the government, the Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government Is rIghtly commItted to growth because growth wIll requIre an approach to taxatIon that helps ensure growth and It wIll therefore hear arguments wIth the need for Imarsana.com/news/taxatIon-system'>TaxatIon System that wIll underpIn growth. I wIll gIve way. I that wIll underpIn growth. I wIll lIve wa. ~ that wIll underpIn growth. I wIll cIvewa. ~ , that wIll underpIn growth. I wIll cIvewa. ,. ,. , gIve way. I thank my honourable frIend and gIve way. I thank my honourable frIend and I gIve way. I thank my honourable frIend and I called gIve way. I thank my honourable frIend and I called her gIve way. I thank my honourable frIend and I called her Imarsana.com/news/frIend-frIend'>FrIend FrIend and I called herfrIend because we have worked closely over the years and I do welcome the fact that she was elected and I would support her for that. The dIffIculty Is the publIc are not buyIng It because we are essentIally sayIng that pensIoners who are vulnerable and over 20,000 that pensIoners who are vulnerable and over20,000 In that pensIoners who are vulnerable and over 20,000 In my constItuency wIll lose the support, you cannot as a government claIm you need to take thIs money from pensIoners and then reward traIn drIvers who work four days a week and 70 grand a year. ThIs Is the dIffIculty so how Is she explaInIng that your constItuents because I haven� t been able to gIve an answer . I because I havent been able to gIve an answer . Because I havent been able to gIve an answer . ,. , ~. ,. , an answer . I can speak forever about the challenges an answer . I can speak forever about the challenges that an answer . I can speak forever about the challenges that thIs the challenges that thIs government left. Let� s be clear. Let� s take the dIre state of what� s happenIng on our traIn servIce. It was. It was the former government that refused to engage and stop the strIkes whIch meant that anybody travellIng had no certaInty about whether they could get to everythIng from work, to a Imarsana.com/news/famIly-funeral'>FamIly Funeral and lIves were put In havoc because of thIs. It Is absolutely rIght that we begIn to set rIght the chaos that the last government left and, yes, there Is a cost to that and the challenge for my rIght honourable frIend, the Memberfor Leeds my rIght honourable frIend, the member for Leeds West In pudsey and thIs government Is how we do that and make those decIsIons that wIll buIld up the future of brItaIn In the way we all want to see. We also need to address, as I saId about taxatIon, the bIggest challenge In a taxatIon, the bIggest challenge In a Imarsana.com/news/taxatIon-system'>TaxatIon System Is that those who are facIng the greatest fInancIal challenges often face the bIggest challenges often face the bIggest challenges often face the bIggest challenges of all because the realIty Is the greatest prIvIleges In our taxatIon and benefIts wIll affect not those who are already startIng to earn In the communIty wIth but those were most fInancIally challengIng so those of the margIn and we come across examples of thIs and we come across examples of thIs and thIs Is not the only one where the margInal cost of a slIght Improvement In Income can drastIcally outweIgh that Improvement. EverythIng from whether we see Tax Thresholds frozen to many more examples, for example wIth Imarsana.com/news/chIld-benefIt'>ChIld BenefIt, the Issues we have seen there and the debate we are havIng today Is such an example. The solutIon Is not to defer the need for tough choIces so for the record, I wIll be votIng wIth the government thIs evenIng. But equally, for the record, I want thIs government to commIt to tacklIng those clIff edges because that� s what progressIve Imarsana.com/news/polIcy-and-taxatIon'>PolIcy And TaxatIon polIcy looks lIke. And I know from bItter experIence, as many members of thIs house of that rushed laws tend to be bad laws. ThIs Is not. I do not expect some houdInI lIke solutIon to be and are but my the front for Imarsana.com/news/leIcester-west'>LeIcester West from the front bench In the closIng speeches but Instead, I expect and trust that she wIll consIder removIng these chaIns of poverty as a key mIssIon for thIs government In a thoughtful, carefully planned way, tIed up wIth the next budget but are way beyond that. I also know, the next budget but are way beyond that. Ialso know, Is the next budget but are way beyond that. I also know, Is agaIn many members wIll that there are technIcal challenges In makIng changes. A look at what� s happened wIth Imarsana.com/news/chIld-benefIt'>ChIld BenefIt. The lImIts on Income for Imarsana.com/news/chIld-benefIt'>ChIld BenefIt draggIng many people Into Tax Returns were households of the same Income dId or dIdn� t receIve Imarsana.com/news/chIld-benefIt'>ChIld BenefIt dependIng on who was earnIng the money and that� s an example of why lessons are why change It when there may need to be made In a sustaInable way wIth a plan and my rIght honourable frIend the front bench and her colleagues has a plan but the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance whIch we are dIscussIng now Is a prIme example of those clIff edges and what they create and addressIng those In IsolatIon wIll mean all other clIff edges and we need to look at thIs challengIng poverty In the round. I was honoured to be chosen to be the chaIr of the treasury select commIttee yesterday. I do not yet have commIttee members to be elected, the chaIr of the Imarsana.com/news/dwp-scent'>Dwp Scent has to be elected so I cannot promIse how or speak for a commIttee that does not exIst on a Imarsana.com/news/cross-party-basIs'>Cross Party BasIs but I wIll be urgIng the commIttee to be consIderIng thIs wIder challenge of clIff edges as a matter of urgency and I look forward to workIng wIth mInIsters to fInd some practIcal steps forward. We have to make tough choIces In government because one of the challenges Is the whole of the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances Is notjust about. The hole today. In prevIous budgets decIsIons were made to defer spendIng to later years so the real challenge Is now and I have seen too often calls for effIcIency savIngs, because senIor whIch would end up beIng deferred. Under the conservatIve government In 2010, there was a desIre to balance the books. In doIng so, the Imarsana.com/news/mInIstry-of-defence'>MInIstry Of Defence deferred spendIng and moved to the rIght. And thIs left us wIth aIrcraft carrIers wIthout aIrcraft and a raft of other Issues. DeferrIng decIsIons and spendIng does not solve thIngs and thIs government and thIs cabInet Is makIng the tough decIsIons to make those decIsIons In your because that Is fInancIally lIterate and the rIght thIng to do. I Is fInancIally lIterate and the rIght thIng to do. Is fInancIally lIterate and the rIght thIng to do. I call the father ofthe rIght thIng to do. I call the father of the house. RIght thIng to do. I call the father of the house. If rIght thIng to do. I call the father of the house. If I rIght thIng to do. I call the father of the house. If I can rIght thIng to do. I call the father of the house. IfI can reach rIght thIng to do. I call the father of the house. IfI can Reach Out. Of the house. If I can Reach Out to the other of the house. If I can Reach Out to the other party of the house. If I can Reach Out to the other party for of the house. If I can Reach Out to the other party for a of the house. If I can Reach Out to the other party for a moment, I of the house. If I can Reach Out to I the other party for a moment, there Is I thInk a case for havIng a serIous debate about the total package that we gIve to pensIoners. We could have done thIs In a sensIble way and I raIsed wIth myself and questIoned some aspects of the Imarsana.com/news/trIple-lock'>TrIple Lock a couple of years ago. It� s a very dIffIcult debate but I do understand that the total package paId to pensIoners as a proportIon of the gross natIonal product must not keep IncreasIng every year because that Is the way to bankrupt the country and we need to bankrupt the country and we need to have a socIal contract between older people lIke myself and younger people, partIcularly In terms of Imarsana.com/news/house-buIldIng'>House BuIldIng and understand all that. That� s a debate we should have been havIng today and we could have combIned, as a house, to have It and to protect the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances. But thIs Is not the debate that we are havIng. We are debatIng the actIon of the government whIch has notjust gone agaInst a Imarsana.com/news/manIfesto-commItment'>ManIfesto CommItment, there was no Imarsana.com/news/manIfesto-commItment'>ManIfesto CommItment to do that and they gave a specIfIc promIse that they would not do thIs and thIs, surely, Is a questIon of publIc trust, an absolute guarantee and thIs Is why I thInk people are so upset. I know some people say and here I declare an Interest, why should somebody lIke me receIve the Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance . All rIght, does have a serIous debate about that, but what about the people. And the people I feel so strongly about who worked hard all theIr lIves, they have served theIr country, they have receIved a very small occupatIonal pensIon, they don� t receIve Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt, they are lookIng after every penny and suddenly because they don� t receIve Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt and cannot receIve Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt and cannot receIve Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt and cannot receIve Imarsana.com/news/pensIon-credIt'>PensIon CredIt because they have a very small occupatIonal pensIon, theIr Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance Is taken theIr Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance Is Imarsana.com/news/ta-ken'>Ta Ken away theIr Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel allowance Is taken away and thIs wIll make a real dIfference to them. I thInk that we really have to consIder them and have a serIous debate about how we wIll protect these people and If I may make one suggestIon to the government and thIs was alluded to by the honourable member who has just spoken, they should have been some serIous debate about taperIng or thIs Is about a punIshment beatIng. The new Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government decIded a punIshment beatIng. The new Imarsana.com/news/labour-government'>Labour Government decIded they had to make theIr case when the Imarsana.com/news/publIc-fInance'>PublIc FInances were In a dIre state