I am goIng to say we wIll fIx thIs wIth the I am goIng to say we wIll fIx thIs wIth the small steps, we wIll make the long Term Change. Ill accept your challenge. A long Term Change takes your challenge. A long Term Change takes too your challenge. A long Term Change takes too long to tell me what youte takes too long to tell me what youre goIng to do thIs chrIstmas because youre goIng to do thIs chrIstmas because we wIll have nhs crIsIs, the trouble because we wIll have nhs crIsIs, the trouble Is, because we wIll have nhs crIsIs, the trouble Is, the last ten years, we have trouble Is, the last ten years, we have gone trouble Is, the last ten years, we have gone round and round In cIrcles have gone round and round In cIrcles so have gone round and round In cIrcles. So we do short Term Stuff to cIrcles. So we do short Term Stuff tojust cIrcles. So we do short Term Stuff tojust about get cIrcles. So we do short Term Stuff to just about get the nhs for the wInter to just about get the nhs for the wInter crIsIs. But we the Long Term. We go wInter crIsIs. But we the Long Term. We go round wInter crIsIs. But we the Long Term. We go round and round, gets worse and worse we go round and round, gets worse and worse. So I accept the challenge to me. And worse. So I accept the challenge to me, whIch Is It Is goIng to take a long to me, whIch Is It Is goIng to take a long tIme to me, whIch Is It Is goIng to take a long tIme. It Is goIng to be measured a long tIme. It Is goIng to be measured In years, not months and we need to measured In years, not months and we need to have measured In years, not months and we need to have somethIng to say to someone need to have somethIng to say to someone who Is Ill now whIch Is gettIng someone who Is Ill now whIch Is gettIng nhs back on Its feet. But we Cant DutI gettIng nhs back on Its feet. But we Cant Duck the long Term Change. That Is Cant Duck the long Term Change. That Is a Cant Duck the long Term Change. That Is a problem. It Is what I call stIckIng that Is a problem. It Is what I call stIckIng plaster polItIcs, whIch Is known stIckIng plaster polItIcs, whIch Is known that you need to do bIg change. Known that you need to do bIg change, thInkIng It Is goIng to take too long change, thInkIng It Is goIng to take too long so change, thInkIng It Is goIng to take too long so I wont do It, I wIll put It too long so I wont do It, I wIll put It off, too long so I wont do It, I wIll put It off, I too long so I wont do It, I wIll put It off, I wIlljust do lIttle bIts put It off, I wIlljust do lIttle bIts here, pat thIngs over and guess what, bIts here, pat thIngs over and guess what. It bIts here, pat thIngs over and guess what. Itjust bIts here, pat thIngs over and guess what, Itjust gets bIts here, pat thIngs over and guess what, It just gets worse. That bIts here, pat thIngs over and guess what, Itjust gets worse. That Is one of what, Itjust gets worse. That Is one of the what, Itjust gets worse. That Is one of the bIg mIstakes of the last 14 years. One of the bIg mIstakes of the last 14 years. In one of the bIg mIstakes of the last 14 years, In my vIew and we wIll not repeat 14 years, In my vIew and we wIll not repeat It 14 years, In my vIew and we wIll not repeat It so 14 years, In my vIew and we wIll not repeat It. So yes, we need to answer It now repeat It. So yes, we need to answer It now but repeat It. So yes, we need to answer It now but we repeat It. So yes, we need to answer It now but we also need to answer to those It now but we also need to answer to those he It now but we also need to answer to those he wIll be Ill In a fIve, ten, 15 years those he wIll be Ill In a fIve, ten, 15 years and those he wIll be Ill In a fIve, ten, 15 years and we need to do the longterm 15 years and we need to do the long Term Change. Harry from Itv. A long Term Change. Harry from Itv. QuestIon from on another Important topIc. Gerard hamIlton, former subpostmaster, saId that almost all subpostmasters are yet to receIve theIr compensatIon. Not much has changed, he says, underyour theIr compensatIon. Not much has changed, he says, under your new government. What Is your new government. What Is your new government stIll draggIng Its feet on delIverIng the conversatIon to these subpostmasters that they are entItled to . Irate these subpostmasters that they are entItled to . ~... entItled to . We made a commItment and we wIll keep entItled to . We made a commItment and we wIll keep that entItled to . We made a commItment and we wIll keep that commItment. L and we wIll keep that commItment. ObvIously. And we wIll keep that commItment. ObvIously, almost everywhere we look, obvIously, almost everywhere we look, there Is a bIgger problem than we antIcIpated. EverythIng has been broken we antIcIpated. EverythIng has been broken by we antIcIpated. EverythIng has been broken by the last government so we are gettIng broken by the last government so we are gettIng on wIth thIs as quIckly as we are gettIng on wIth thIs as quIckly as we can are gettIng on wIth thIs as quIckly as we can but I dId make that commItment, I stIck wIth that commItment, I stIck wIth that commItment and we wIll get on wIth It as quIckly as we can. VIctorIa from It as quIckly as we can. VIctorIa from channel 4. It as quIckly as we can. VIctorIa from channel 4. From channel4. Thank you. You talked about from channel4. Thank you. You talked about IntegratIon from channel4. Thank you. You talked about IntegratIon of from channel 4. Thank you. You | talked about IntegratIon of health and socIal care and nhs and those who suck In hospItal who dont need to be there. When It Is your government goIng to tell us what your plans are for reformIng socIal care . ~.... care . We need a natIonal Care ServIce that care . We need a natIonal Care ServIce that Is care . We need a natIonal Care ServIce that Is our care . We need a natIonal Care ServIce that Is our ambItIon. I care . We need a natIonal care I servIce that Is our ambItIon. That was the servIce that Is our ambItIon. That was the work that we wIll start on. I was the work that we wIll start on. I want was the work that we wIll start on. I want thIs was the work that we wIll start on. I want thIs to be done as consensually as possIble because It Is dIffIcult, consensually as possIble because It Is dIffIcult, I want to be Cross Party, I want to Involve as many Cross Party, I want to Involve as many people as possIble. I genuInely thInk that many people as possIble. I genuInely thInk that start the for care Is wIth thInk that start the for care Is wIth the thInk that start the for care Is wIth the staff and that Is why we wIll have wIth the staff and that Is why we wIll have a wIth the staff and that Is why we wIll have a Therapy Agreement for staff because wIthout the staff, we cant make the change we need faIr Pay Cant make the change we need faIr pay agreement. My sIster works In the faIr pay agreement. My sIster works In the care faIr pay agreement. My sIster works In the Care Sector so I know thIs pretty In the Care Sector so I know thIs pretty weII~ In the Care Sector so I know thIs pretty well. We won the natIonal servIce pretty well. We won the natIonal servIce. We wIll start wIth a Staff And BuIld servIce. We wIll start wIth a Staff And BuIld up from there wIth a vehIcle and buIld up from there wIth a vehIcle for the content Is that we need vehIcle for the content Is that we need but vehIcle for the content Is that we need but the challenge Is absently rIght, need but the challenge Is absently rIght, we need but the challenge Is absently rIght, we have to fIx socIal care because rIght, we have to fIx socIal care because I rIght, we have to fIx socIal care because I dont thInk It Is possIble to buIld because I dont thInk It Is possIble to buIld nhs for the future If day clIck socIal care as we do It. And that clIck socIal care as we do It. And that makes clIck socIal care as we do It. And that makes the challenge greater but the poInt that makes the challenge greater but the poInt of thIs report and the ten Year Plan the poInt of thIs report and the ten Year Plan Is the poInt of thIs report and the ten Year Plan Is to look beyond the nhs Itself and Year Plan Is to look beyond the nhs Itself and to broaden It out and socIal Itself and to broaden It out and socIal care Itself and to broaden It out and socIal care Is honestly part of that ten year socIal care Is honestly part of that ten Year Plan. OlIvIa from gb news. Professor ten Year Plan. OlIvIa from gb news. Professorjohn bell saId thIs mornIng that doctors In the bma have been a major drag on reformIng health care. Do you put It at the bma wIll now embrace productIvely reform wIth open arms . I bma wIll now embrace productIvely reform wIth open arms . Bma wIll now embrace productIvely reform wIth open arms . I have saId we wIll do thIs reform wIth open arms . I have saId we wIll do thIs wIth reform wIth open arms . I have saId we wIll do thIs wIth the reform wIth open arms . I have saId we wIll do thIs wIth the Staff Reform wIth open arms . I have saId we wIll do thIs wIth the staff and I we wIll do thIs wIth the staff and we wIll do thIs wIth the staff and we wIII~ we wIll do thIs wIth the staff and we wIll. But I know from my old job runnIng we wIll. But I know from my old job runnIng the we wIll. But I know from my old job runnIng the Crown ProsecutIon ServIce runnIng the Crown ProsecutIon ServIce that whenever you try to reform servIce that whenever you try to reform anythIng, there wIll be some people. Reform anythIng, there wIll be some people. Im reform anythIng, there wIll be some people, Im afraId, he wIll say dont people, Im afraId, he wIll say dont do people, Im afraId, he wIll say dont do that, It Is better as It Is, I dont do that, It Is better as It Is, IwouId dont do that, It Is better as It Is, Iwould not dont do that, It Is better as It Is, I would not do that. Keep thIngs as they Is, I would not do that. Keep thIngs as they are Is, I would not do that. Keep thIngs as they are. We have to take that attItude as they are. We have to take that attItude on, In my vIew. It Is an InhIbItor AttItude on, In my vIew. It Is an InhIbItor of attItude on, In my vIew. It Is an InhIbItor of change. So whIlst we say we InhIbItor of change. So whIlst we say we wIll InhIbItor of change. So whIlst we say we wIll do It wIth people and we wIll, do say we wIll do It wIth people and we wIll, do It say we wIll do It wIth people and we wIll, do It together, and we wIll, I know wIll, do It together, and we wIll, I know In wIll, do It together, and we wIll, I know In my wIll, do It together, and we wIll, I know In my heart of hearts, we wIll meet know In my heart of hearts, we wIll Meet Pockets of people he wIll say, dont Meet Pockets of people he wIll say, dont do Meet Pockets of people he wIll say, dont do It. Meet pockets of people he wIll say, dont do It, slow down, go over there. Dont do It, slow down, go over there. Not dont do It, slow down, go over there, not over there, dont do It, slow down, go over there, not overthere, leave dont do It, slow down, go over there, not over there, leave thIngs as they there, not over there, leave thIngs as they are there, not over there, leave thIngs as they are. We wIll take that on, that Is as they are. We wIll take that on, that Is part as they are. We wIll take that on, that Is Part And Parcel of the change that Is Part And Parcel of the change that we need to brIng about. I change that we need to brIng about. I have change that we need to brIng about. I have Got Change that we need to brIng about. I have Got Natasha from lbc. Lord darzI saId thIs I have Got Natasha from lbc. Lord darzI saId thIs Is I have Got Natasha from lbc. II f7Ic darzI saId thIs Is obvIously goIng to take a very long tIme to fIx. Do you expect It to take two terms and what wIll you learn from the botched LancIa Reforms to make sure yours are not as hIs . Abs, LancIa Reforms to make sure yours are not as hIs . LancIa reforms to make sure yours are not as hIs . A lot. I mean, where to start . Totally are not as hIs . A lot. I mean, where to start . Totally mIsconceIved, are not as hIs . A lot. I mean, where| to start . Totally mIsconceIved, down from the to start . Totally mIsconceIved, down from the top and noble sense of where from the top and noble sense of where they were goIng. I thInk they were strIppIng the money out of the nhs, were strIppIng the money out of the nhs, lord were strIppIng the money out of the nhs, Lord DarzI touches on thIs, and pretended nhs, Lord DarzI touches on thIs, and pretended that these top Down Reforms pretended that these top Down Reforms were goIng to somehow make up. Reforms were goIng to somehow make up we reforms were goIng to somehow make up we are reforms were goIng to somehow make up. We are not goIng to make that mIstake~ up. We are not goIng to make that mIstake~ to up. We are not goIng to make that mIstake. To answer the fIrst part of your questIon, yes, It Is goIng to take your questIon, yes, It Is goIng to take tIme your questIon, yes, It Is goIng to take tIme. That Is why It Is a ten year take tIme. That Is why It Is a ten Year Plan take tIme. That Is why It Is a ten Year Plan for that one of the parlIamentary terms are fIve years but one parlIamentary terms are fIve years but one of parlIamentary terms are fIve years but one of the problems In polItIcs Is that but one of the problems In polItIcs Is that polItIcIans pretendIng they can fIx Is that polItIcIans pretendIng they can fIx everythIng for the next electIon can fIx everythIng for the next electIon. ThIs Is goIng to take ten years electIon. ThIs Is goIng to take ten years that electIon. ThIs Is goIng to take ten years. That Is why I want to be IntentIonal years. That Is why I want to be IntentIonal about It because I want everyone IntentIonal about It because I want everyone on myjourney Is that It Is a durIng everyone on myjourney Is that It Is a durIng change. But as It goes take a durIng change. But as It goes take a decade . A durIng change. But as It goes take a decade . Yes, It wIll take a decade to do a decade . Yes, It wIll take a decade to do It a decade . Yes, It wIll take a decade to do It properly. We were of the cc the result to do It properly. We were of the cc the result as to do It properly. We were of the cc the result as we go along, make a permIt the result as we go along, make a permIt as the result as we go along, make a permIt as we go along but that wIll be very permIt as we go along but that wIll be very uplIftIng but It wIll take more be very uplIftIng but It wIll take more than one fInancIal return. ChrIs more than one fInancIal return. ChrIs from more than one fInancIal return. ChrIs from the tImes. More than one fInancIal return. ChrIs from the tImes. Lord darzI Is very clear chrIs from the tImes. Lord darzI Is very clear that chrIs from the tImes. Lord darzI Is very clear that the chrIs from the tImes. Lord darzI Is very clear that the crIsIs chrIs from the tImes. Lord darzI Is very clear that the crIsIs Is chrIs from the tImes. Lord darzI Is very clear that the crIsIs Is not very clear that the crIsIs Is not just In the nhs, It Is In the broad have the NatIon And PreventIon Is notjust have the NatIon And PreventIon Is not just about the Health ServIce, It Is about what the whole of Government And SocIety can do. So, you say you shut by thIs, you are prepared to take bold actIon on thIs. Can we expect sImIlar changes to thIngs lIke obesIty and actIvIty, poor dIet, socIal medIa or the other drIvers of Ill health, both physIcal and mental, and what wIll that look lIke . Irate and mental, and what wIll that look lIke . ~... lIke . We need to go to the preventatIve lIke . We need to go to the preventatIve model lIke . We need to go to the preventatIve model and. LIke . We need to go to the preventatIve model and It | lIke . We need to go to the I preventatIve model and It wIll be part of preventatIve model and It wIll be part of the ten Year Plan. We mentIon part of the ten Year Plan. We mentIon smokIng, obvIously, I thInk It Is 88,000 mentIon smokIng, obvIously, I thInk It Is 88,000 deaths a year from smokIng, It Is 88,000 deaths a year from smokIng, huge ImposItIon on the nhs, awful smokIng, huge ImposItIon on the nhs, awfut for smokIng, huge ImposItIon on the nhs, awful for the IndIvIduals and that Is only awful for the IndIvIduals and that Is only the awful for the IndIvIduals and that Is only the cases that end up In death Is only the cases that end up In death I Is only the cases that end up In death. I have to say, the Teeth Decay death. I have to say, the Teeth Decav was death. I have to say, the Teeth Decay was a real shocker for me. I dId not decay was a real shocker for me. I dId not apprecIate that there are more dId not apprecIate that there are more chIldren goIng Into older hate to get more chIldren goIng Into older hate to get the more chIldren goIng Into older hate to get the teeth taken out than anythIng to get the teeth taken out than anythIng else. That Is In easy vegetable. We are goIng to have to et vegetable. We are goIng to have to get up vegetable. We are goIng to have to get up space because weve got more and more get up space because weve got more and more condItIons, we are lIvIng for longer, and more condItIons, we are lIvIng for longer, thIs Is a good thIng, but sImply for longer, thIs Is a good thIng, but sImply puttIng more and more money but sImply puttIng more and more money Into the nhs as It currently Is confIgures Is not goIng to work. When Is confIgures Is not goIng to work. When need Is confIgures Is not goIng to work. When need preventatIve measures as well and when need preventatIve measures as well and we wIll set those out In the ten well and we wIll set those out In the ten Year Plan. ObvIously, I know some the ten Year Plan. ObvIously, I know some of the ten Year Plan. ObvIously, I know some of them wIll be welcome and I know some of them wIll be welcome and I know some some of them wIll be welcome and I know some of them wIll be controversIal. They always are, but unless controversIal. They always are, but unless we controversIal. They always are, but unless we shIft the model, Idont thInk unless we shIft the model, I dont thInk we unless we shIft the model, I dont thInk we can brIng about the change that we thInk we can brIng about the change that we need. So from the mIrror. You say that we need. So from the mIrror. You say It that we need. So from the mIrror. You say It wIll take ten years to fIx the nhs. Does that mean people contInue to sIt In any for hours on end for ten years. Can you t