A judge struck down the state's near total ban on abortion, saying north dakota's constitution gives women a fundamental right to choose abortion before foetal viability. Elisabeth smith is with the center for reproductive rights — the organisation that argued on behalf of the plantiffs in north dakota. Ms smith, thanks forjoining us. What's your reaction to the ruling? what's your reaction to the rulin: ? ,. , what's your reaction to the rulin? ,. ,. , ruling? this was an incredible rulin: ruling? this was an incredible ruling and _ ruling? this was an incredible ruling and it's _ ruling? this was an incredible ruling and it's the _ ruling? this was an incredible ruling and it's the first ruling? this was an incredible ruling and it's the first time i ruling and it's the first time thatis ruling and it's the first time that is stayed that totally bans abortion in the us, one of those 1a states has seen abortion be reaffirmed as a right under the state constitution. So this was not a decision based — the decision by boaters, this was a judge saying, no, the north dakota constitution protects a fundamental right to make a decision on polyatomic, free from government interference, this is a wonderful day for people across the country are dakota. �* ,. , , people across the country are dakota. �* ,. ,. , dakota. But you will be aware that this notification dakota. But you will be aware that this notification that that this notification that there will be an appeal? absolutely, we fully expect appeals to go up to the north dakota supreme court but the opinion that the trial court judge wrote as he quoted from is really strong and clearly lays out the case of the north dakota constitution protects da kota constitution protects the dakota constitution protects the right to choose abortion. Do you recognise there's tension here between the law as it is seen by this charge and by some of the states politicians who voted this law through last year? absolutely. And you've _ through last year? absolutely. And you've seen _ through last year? absolutely. And you've seen that through last year? absolutely. And you've seen that are through last year? absolutely. | and you've seen that are north dakota and we've seen that in states across the country. The vast majority of americans support abortion rights and what abortion is legal and accessible. And what we've seen in the 1a states where abortion is criminally banned is that politicians are completely out of step with their constituents. And in fact, in many instances, it is gerrymandered to state legislation that is making this decision again, out of step with the people living in the states. ~. , states. What practical difference _ states. What practical difference do states. What practical difference do you states. What practical| difference do you think states. What practical difference do you think this will make immediately for than in after koorda? —— north dakota? in after koorda? north dakota?— in after koorda? north dakota? ~. ,. , , dakota? we have to recognise that there _ dakota? we have to recognise that there was _ dakota? we have to recognise that there was one _ dakota? we have to recognise that there was one abortion i that there was one abortion clinic in north dakota prior to the decision which overruled rabey weight. That clinic has since moved and is not in north dakota. What this will mean is that abortion will be available in hospital and by certain providers but to restart a clinic and reopening clinic is a major undertaking. —— roe v wade. One of the laws like note the coda is to shut down axis by shutting down clinics and by setting providers outside of the state. —— north dakota. To reassert accidents they will be a major undertaking. You reassert accidents they will be a major undertaking. — a ma'or undertaking. You will be a major undertaking. You will be aware _ a major undertaking. You will be aware that _ a major undertaking. You will be aware that political a major undertaking. You will be aware that political this i be aware that political this issue has become, not least during an election campaign, you would watch the debate on tuesday night, how did you assess the two candidates as they spoke on this particular issue. I they spoke on this particular issue. . , , , they spoke on this particular issue. . , _ issue. I was by saying the centre for _ issue. I was by saying the centre for a _ issue. I was by saying the centre for a protective. Issue. I was by saying the l centre for a protective right is the organisation so we do know a lectionary but you see two very stark pictures of america. And i think voters have a real choice about whether they want to ensure that abortion rights are illegal across every state in this country or not. And as we have seen in every paul, the vast majority of americans support abortion right and one abortion kid to be legal and accessible across the country. What do you say to the argument made by donald trump and some of his supporters that this should be a matter that's decided at the state level? i decided at the state level? i think we can only look at the limitations on voting rights, limitations on voting rights, limitations on voting rights, limitations on democracy and the gerrymandering of state legislation is in states like my her state of texas to really demonstrate that that's not possible, the vast majority of texans support abortion right but texas currently has one of the most abortion bans that if you violated, you could potentially be facing 99 years in prison, criminalfines, etc so texans have no avenue. To affect what the law is on abortion in the state. And it is only the new federal ride either through a federal statue or a new federal constitution amendment that will ensure that everyone across the country can access abortion care where they live. . , , access abortion care where they live. . , ,,. , ,, live. Elizabeth smith, thank ou for live. Elizabeth smith, thank you forjoining _ live. Elizabeth smith, thank you forjoining us _ live. Elizabeth smith, thank you forjoining us on live. Elizabeth smith, thank you forjoining us on bbc i live. Elizabeth smith, thank you forjoining us on bbc news. The next issue we're going to turn to is the level of crime in the us. This came up in the debate and in the fall—out from the debate. Here's merlyn thomas from bbc verify. Trump has been going hard on crime particularly, the harris's racket on it. And this really came to a head on the presidential debate on tuesday when he said that crime was going through the roof and the abc news moderator pick them up on this and challenged him. Crime here is up and through the roof. _ crime here is up and through the roof, despite their fraudulent statements that they made. — fraudulent statements that they made, crime in this country is through— made, crime in this country is through the roof and we have a new form — through the roof and we have a new form of crime, it's called migrate — new form of crime, it's called migrate crime and it's happening at levels that nobody thought — happening at levels that nobody thought possible. As happening at levels that nobody thought possible. — thought possible. As you know, the fbi says — thought possible. As you know, the fbi says overall— thought possible. As you know, the fbi says overall violent the fbi says overall violent crime — the fbi says overall violent crime is _ the fbi says overall violent crime is coming _ the fbi says overall violent crime is coming down the fbi says overall violent crime is coming down in i the fbi says overall violent. Crime is coming down in this country _ crime is coming down in this count. , ,. , country. The thing is they are both referring _ country. The thing is they are both referring to _ country. The thing is they are both referring to different both referring to different datasets so, trump are correct, they are correct according to they are correct according to the national crime stats that were published today on thursday, after the debate on tuesday and the figures at the abc news moderator was referring to others published by the fbi and the only include crime reported to law enforcement. Crime reported to law enforcement. ~. . , enforcement. When i had part of bbc verify. _ enforcement. When i had part of bbc verify. One _ enforcement. When i had part of bbc verify, one of _ enforcement. When i had part of bbc verify, one of the _ bbc verify, one of the challenges when we take on issues such as this is the source of different sources of data and information on any given policy issue? data and information on any given policy issue? exactly and we've been _ given policy issue? exactly and we've been looking _ given policy issue? exactly and we've been looking through given policy issue? exactly and| we've been looking through the difference in the data sets and the nuances that they both come with an for example, the figures that trump quoted, they are based on numbers that are on a nationwide survey of victims of so they include people who might not have reported to the police as well and it's important to say that it includes 2020 which was a covid yes i remember, we don't know what they will have done to the opportunities for crime in that year as well and the survey does add, it must be said, the 2023 rate of violent crime was higher than those of 2020 and 2021 so, they also say it was not statistically different to that of five years ago in 2019. Crime and abortion were two of many issus that came up during tuesday's debate. But let's try and understand which issues matter the most to voters. Anthony salvanto, cbs news polling director. Thank you for your time. It's easy to look at the headline national polls but there's so much detail beneath them, let's start with what your understanding as of the major factors that decide which choice the voters make. Good evening _ choice the voters make. Good evening the _ choice the voters make. Good evening. The two _ choice the voters make. Good evening. The two you've choice the voters make. Good evening. The two you've been talking about are important but the one i want to start with and i'll show you theirs, its inflation and it's the economy, that something that most voters do say is a major factor and that something that most voters do say is a majorfactor and in fact, one of the reasons this race is so close is that for those who say, commonly that inflation is a majorfactor in their vote but also that they feel that their incomes are not keeping pace with inflation, they tend to be voting for donald trump in large measures. And one of the reasons to unpack that is that when we asked people how do you remember the economy, when donald trump was president, quite frankly, they're looking back passed over to pre—covid times and they are saying they remember it as good and so that's one of the factors actually underpinning a lot of his standing in the polls, it's inflation, it's the economy and the feeling, the retrospective feeling in the economy was better when he was president. And i'm curious, to these major factors vary according to whether a voter is likely to vote republican or democrat? well, they do, republicans are even more likely to say, not only that the economy as a factor but the economy is in good and part of that is the partisanship wrapped up, we see that a lot around campaigns but let me point out something that is pushing back against a little bit and i'll show it to you here on the screen and that is what happens when reproductive rights when abortion is said to be a major factor in people's votes, you see these numbers, you're getting very margins who then are saying they are voting for kamala harris, based on that issue. . ,. . Kamala harris, based on that issue. . ,. ,. , �* , issue. To a larger point, it's a combination _ issue. To a larger point, it's a combination of— issue. To a larger point, it's a combination of factors issue. To a larger point, it's| a combination of factors and issue. To a larger point, it's i a combination of factors and at some point in the campaign, you see that back and forth between what people should decide based upon and notjust what their vote is and that one of those factors that's helping out, kamala harris right now. I’ue kamala harris right now. I've not ask kamala harris right now. I've got ask you _ kamala harris right now. I've got ask you a _ kamala harris right now. I've got ask you a question you asked an awful lot because there's such a focus on this crucial swing states, how are things looking in particular in michigan, and wisconsin? tight, close, michigan, and wisconsin? tight, close. Even. _ michigan, and wisconsin? tight, close, even, you _ michigan, and wisconsin? tight, close, even, you can _ michigan, and wisconsin? tight, close, even, you can unpacked l close, even, you can unpacked your words and adjectives, one of the things that i'll show you in those days particular this is what i mean, i was point out the people, easy estimates like this, remember that all of these are within the margin of error, although these are highly dependent on what you classify as a likely voter. Things are tight and locked in at this point but there is some varian in her might actually show up to vote and that explains a lot of what you see in the campaign were often times, your scene and campaigns talk to some of their base voters because they want to motivate them. In fact, one of the real interesting dynamics that's gotten this race to be so close versus when joe biden was nominee going to be the nominee for the democrats is that there's been a social enthusiasm sends a mother harris became the nominee, they've increasingly been saying that they're likely to turn out and that's come up much the republican enthusiasm and another big factor behind that tight race. This and another big factor behind that tight race. — that tight race. As one more thing and — that tight race. As one more thing and it _ that tight race. As one more thing and it ask _ that tight race. As one more thing and it ask you, that tight race. As one more thing and it ask you, and that tight race. As one more i thing and it ask you, and 2016 and 2020, the polls had assessing support for donald trump and quite frequently, underestimated his support, presumably, the paul industry is looking at its approach to try and make sure that doesn't happen this time? i try and make sure that doesn't happen this time?— happen this time? i always emphasised _ happen this time? i always emphasised two _ happen this time? i always emphasised two things, i happen this time? i always. Emphasised two things, one happen this time? i always emphasised two things, one is to look at the state—by—state polls, one of the things that 2016 is that a lot of folks were looking at the national rate which quite frankly, from our point of view are upholding was spot on but in the states, you had a donald trump when in the electoral college that state—by—state contest, even state— by—state contest, even though state—by—state contest, even though hillary clinton won the national popular vote, i think now that is better communication about the fact that this is decided state—by—state and i'll certainly keep emphasising that. But number two, certainly keep emphasising that. But numbertwo, it certainly keep emphasising that. But number two, it goes back again to china, when you look at polls, look at the ones that talk about the likely voters because quite frankly, and start smaller percentage of people who might be on the fence about whether or not to turn out, pollsters always wrestle with looking at that behavioural aspects of this, will they want they show up? frankly, campaigns to was well and that's something that when you see the measures, you know that there's going to be varian's on that cliche about turning to turn out, that's what you see in the bowling and in the shifts in the polling and that's what you see this year. And that's what you see this ear. . . , and that's what you see this ear. ,,. , ,. , and that's what you see this ear. ,. , ~ i. Year. So helpful, thank you very much _ year. So helpful, thank you very much indeed. Year. So helpful, thank you very much indeed. Cbs year. So helpful, thank you| very much indeed. Cbs new polling director. One issue that we know is especially important in many swing states, — the one anthony was talking about is fracking. It's a technique where pressure is applied to shale rock in order to release gas and oil. And trump has been very keen to highlight that harris' position on fracking has changed from 2019 — when she was callng for a ban based on environmental and climate concerns. For more on this — here's ben german from axios. I think it's fair to say that the biden administration has recognised the need for the us to be a robust oil and natural gas producer and by definition, thatis gas producer and by definition, that is something that's going to include a lot of fracking. One thing that influenced is a great deal, the natural gas side is the fact that during the beginning of the russian invasion of ukraine, you had this european effort to move away from russian oil and gas supplies and us that were fired natural gas exports have helped for some of that gap, similarly when oil prices were rising and there had been efforts to move away from russian oil, you also saw the biden administration and encouraging producers to open the tabs even more so it has been a mixed message from an administration that is both taken unprecedented steps on climate change but also recognising the geopolitical and economic leveraged that our fossil fuel and economic leveraged that our fossilfuel production and economic leveraged that our fossil fuel production provides and from our political standpoint, that very little tolerant for rising gas leak prices and rising heating costs and from that standpoint, using the administration to make sure that it doesn't undercut itself on heading into these elections. — on heading into these elections. �* �*, elections. And you say there's been a mixed _ elections. And you say there's been a mixed message elections. And you say there's been a mixed message from | elections. And you say there's i been a mixed message from the biden administration, nonetheless, it is fair that this approach is a long way from what kamala harris used to advocate towards the end of the last decade? i advocate towards the end of the last decade?— last decade? i think it's absolutely _ last decade? i think it's absolutely right. Last decade? i think it's absolutely right. If last decade? i think it's absolutely right. If we i last decade? i think it's absolutely right. If we wind back to 2019 when she was running for her own campaign for the democratic nomination, ultimately they went to joe biden, she was among a fairly large number of candidates who all felt that they had to run to the left, to the political left and in so doing, she called for a ban on fracking. Candidly, not something that a little bit more messaging than it would be reality because outright banning would require an act of congress and is not enough political appetite for that or even close now, a ban on fracking was not the precision of the top of the ticket when she became the vice presidential nominee and she said at the time thatjoe biden would not ban fracking. And so that's something that is — her 2019 comments of this effect have certainly come back to be a big thing now that she is running her own campaign for president and republicans at every turn are trying to remind voters especially in the state of pennsylvania which is absolutely pivotal and a huge natural gas producer, they've been looking to remind voters that she wants to disposition. The mother harris in recent weeks in an interview with cnn and the very recent debate she had with donald trump, she has made very clear that this is no longer her position, she says that the us can grow its clean energy posture and attempt to confront climate change even while encouraging these types of domestic fossil fuel of domestic fossilfuel supplies and in fact, we've seen her very much privy to the centre by openly touting and boasting about the rise in us oil and natural gas production. Both candidates think it's an important issue, they are both referencing it, frequently in their different ways, i wonder whether their calculation is that this is about keeping gas prices down for americans or is it to do with generating and keeping jobs within the energy market? i keeping “obs within the energy market? ~ �* ,. ,. ,. , market? i think it's a mix of a lot of different _ market? i think it's a mix of a lot of different things. Market? i think it's a mix of a lot of different things. If market? i think it's a mix of a lot of different things. If you | lot of different things. If you look at some of the republican criticisms of kamala harris, is this idea that while he was production has been rising in recent years, that a democratic administration and already the behaviour of the biden administration is sowing the seeds to deter investment that would allow continued increases in this production whether that is through offering fewer federal areas are putting on new types of environmental regulations across the board. When it comes republicans, i think this is part of the message that the democratic climate change agenda is something that is ultimately going to cost us jobs something that is ultimately going to cost usjobs in something that is ultimately going to cost us jobs in these industries and that's why to bring this back to pennsylvania, this is absolutely us wednesday for, kamala harris and while polling shows is someone mixed views of fracking, the votes that she needs to pick up in that state have led to the conclusion that she needs to sprint away from this prior call for banning this prior call for banning this practice. We've considered abortion, crime, polling, fracking. And we've looked at how the polling fit into all of this as well. Let's step back and consider where this week leaves the race with two seasoned political strategists. Thank you for your time. I'm assuming you felt that the debate went well for kamala harris so let's look forward, what should she do now? haifa harris so let's look forward, what should she do now? now she should do what _ what should she do now? now she should do what she _ what should she do now? now she should do what she is _ what should she do now? now she should do what she is doing, should do what she is doing, she needs to hit the trail, she needs to go to all the battleground states and the aiming for turning out her base voters and expanding that base and also try to convert those who are moderate or republicans that letting them know they have a home with the campaign and so she can shut everyone up doing an interview or two. N doing an interview or two. I will ask about that, it might be time to sit down only a few generalists to ask some questions. I generalists to ask some questions— generalists to ask some ruestions. ~. . , , questions. I think that i was art of questions. I think that i was part of the _ questions. I think that i was part of the plan _ questions. I think that i was part of the plan but questions. I think that i was part of the plan but the questions. I think that i was | part of the plan but the truth is, she is doing direct to consumer, if you will. She is going straight to the voters on the campaign trail, they are hearing her, she is hearing from them, they're asking the questions so we had that fracking conversation, the real question if you're in pennsylvania is where you stand with fracking now? they don't care where she was before, only matters what is happening today. How do you assess your messaging on issues such as fracking and on gun control because on both during debates, it's unless she was trying to offer reinsurance is to republicans who may be considering coming across to her. I mean, what she's learned as vice—president is a president for everyone. And so, while you might have some personal views that may be to the left or to the right as the case may be of the electorate but ultimately, you will do what is right for the vast majority of americans and what makes right in terms of policy so, i don't think that any surprise there, americans are shifting change positions all the time, that is natural, it is unnatural to take a position, never change even in the face of facts and changing circumstances so, i think what she's doing is quite right is to talk about where her values are, those are unwavering but where she may be on any particular issue, especially ones that these are not moral issues, these are ones that different positions that might change over time that indicates a fracking, there might�*ve been a fracking, there might�*ve been a shift there. In the case of some other issues, the might of been a shift but it's not like there was a long list, she's been pretty consistent. Ok, that a democrat _ been pretty consistent. Ok, that a democrat perspective on the political strategy, that's got a republican perspective. Thank you very much for being with us, ron. Talk to me about where you think this week lives donald trump and how he should blot his way forward? first donald trump and how he should blot his way forward?— blot his way forward? first of all, i blot his way forward? first of all. I was _ blot his way forward? first of all, i was listening _ blot his way forward? first of all, i was listening to blot his way forward? first of all, i was listening to the all, i was listening to the fracking conversation and i just want to say that i noticed i kamala harris didn't talk much about the fracking issue after she was exposed by trump and didn't talk about energy policy either. I have a feeling in the next couple of weeks, we will see some type of energy policy, from kamala harris campaign to try and mitigate the damage. But what i think is going to happen after this debate is first of all, no—one landed a fatal blow during that debate. Kamala harris, ithink, truly wanted on the merits, she had arguments down, she had donald trump on de france but there is no deathblow and i think that we just have to see how far she will move the needle. �* i. �* how far she will move the needle. �* �*. , ,, needle. But you're talking uuite a needle. But you're talking quite a lot _ needle. But you're talking quite a lot about needle. But you're talking quite a lot about kamala i needle. But you're talking quite a lot about kamala harris but i'm interested to know what you think about donald trump and his performance in that debate and what he should do, for example,, there's a of search interest in donald trump and trump and cats and dogs, is that really what you want your candidate to be having people looking him up for? surely that should be looking him up for policy? should be looking him up for oli ?. , ,, should be looking him up for oli ?. , _. , should be looking him up for oli ?. ,,. _. ,. , �* policy? probably not, wouldn't want to have _ policy? probably not, wouldn't want to have that _ policy? probably not, wouldn't want to have that happen, want to have that happen, no—one would, i think donald trump needs to get focused, he was very focused during the debate, he kept kamala harris on de france, regarding immigration and i thought as attack at the end was very good about saying, hey, if you have all these plans and what you do them during the vice—president, why didn't you initiate all the things you're talking about, she should have done that at the beginning and really hammered home time after time after time and now going forward, what he needs to do is start talking about hitting table issues that people talk about. They don't care about cats or dogs, they don't care about what happened in the last election or the grievances, they want to know if you will help solve problems at the carabao cup, i don't think we will see much of a change about donald trump, he is to be is, will know that. —— that people care about. Kamala harris has a lot of catching up to do so trump is a known quality and he's out there, he's constantly — kamala harris is trying to educate these are decided that she is a credible alternative so that the real challenge there for her. — so that the real challenge there for her. Both of you, thank you _ there for her. Both of you, thank you very _ there for her. Both of you, thank you very much there for her. Both of you, l thank you very much indeed. Let's go back to anthony, pollen director who is still with us because anthony, but ask you a question that i know ask you a question that i know a lot of people are wondering which is when will we know what impact that debate had? when will they get positive reveal that? if any, ifany, i if any, i think it will be next week, to was the end of next week, to was the end of next week and i'll tell you why. First is conceptually, if you look at post debate, immediate post— debate from 2016, from 2020 past years, you've mentioned, there have been times where you saw winners of perceived winners of debate including the fact that in 2016, a lot of people thought that hillary clinton was winning some of those debates and ultimately, that didn't pan out when election day rolled around so, those polls have some value but it's around so, those polls have some value but its limited, number one and number two, you have to remember that the audience for those debates is large but it's often disproportionately older and so, as younger people and we know they're getting their information from a lot of different sources, that's going to trickle out over dates, they are going to be getting information from the internet, from family or friends, etc so that things a while to process and that's why i think you want to see that measurement in a few days but finally, let me say this, there isn't a lot of room to move in this electorate, in our polling, the numbers of people that we think are persuaded will buy even the most generous measures is less than 110 and may be smaller than 110 and may be smaller than that so the question is, how many of those people are really watching to be moved in one direction or another and frankly, the number is fairly small, we will see but that's the context. — the context. Really helpful aaain. The context. Really helpful again cbs _ the context. Really helpful again. Cbs new— the context. Really helpful again. Cbs new pollen the context. Really helpful again. Cbs new pollen director, thank you very much indeed. Which way with the voters go? but also how many of them will turn out, turnout is going to be a crucial factor as well, do remember, there's more detail on all of the subjects we have considered the last half—an—hour on bbc news app and website. We will see you back here in half—an—hour but further now, for listening. —— but for now, thanks for listening. Hello there. It was an unseasonably chilly start to friday morning with a touch of frost for some, but lots of blue sky and sunshine throughout the day and we started to draw in that warmer feeling air. Now that trend is just set to continue over the next few days. So warmer by day, milder by night, too. For the weekend — some sunshine, but also some outbreaks of rain here and there, too. You can see all of the sunshine clearly with the lack of cloud on the satellite picture here. We will see this front just gradually continue to push its way further eastwards through the rest of the night, bringing outbreaks of rain across northern ireland and western scotland. More cloud here, too, and some of the cloud will seep down into northern england. It's windy out towards the northwest, but look at much of england and wales — dry with clear skies again. And while it's not quite as cold as it was last night here, temperatures rurally could still drop, perhaps as low as 3 or 4 c. And then on saturday, well we're set to keep a lot of that sunshine across england and wales through the day. It will stay dry here, more cloud towards the north and probably some more in the way of high cloud through the afternoon turning the sunshine hazy. Meanwhile, across northern ireland, western scotland we'll see outbreaks of rain push eastwards. Taking their time to reach eastern scotland — dry here for much of the day. Windy across the border, fresh south—westerly wind. Highs of 16 to 19 c, so already feeling warmer. And then on sunday, our front continues to slip southwards and eastwards across from northern england, down through wales, the midlands and eventually into south east england, but there will be some sunshine ahead of our front. It will stay dry during the daylight hours, 20 degrees so warm and sunshine developing behind the front, too, with some showers scattered across northern and western scotland. So here's our area of high pressure that's going to keep us largely dry and settled into next week. It's gradually pushing further eastwards over the next few days, but on monday we could start off the day with those lighter winds, with some areas of mist and fog that could take a little time, perhaps to lift and clear through the morning. But they will do so and there'll be some sunshine emerging and temperatures will be higher. So we're looking at 15 to 21 c, perhaps north to south. And those temperatures could rise even further — low to mid 20s potentially, especially in the south as we head through the middle of next week. Lots more sunshine to come. Voiceover: this is bbc news. We'll have the headlines for you at the top of the hour, which is straight after this programme. This week, we're at europe's biggest tech show to meet this year's tech movers and shakers. Quivering: er. . . Yeah, we have the lowdown on what's cooking, what's trending, and what's bouncing. Are those phones? they are phones, yeah. 0k. Meanwhile, lara's getting her groove on at a live concert in the metaverse. My avatar, beat engineer, there. He's ready to dance. My finest dance moves. And we meet the brothers who are trying to replace plastics with plants. 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