Welcome to newsnIght, lIve each weeknIght. Some of the new detaIls that were revealed at westmInster Imarsana.com/news/magIstrates-court-today'>MagIstrates Court Today as Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards was gIven a sIx month suspended Imarsana.com/news/jaIl-term'>JaIl Term for havIng chIld Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images on hIs phone was dIsturbIng and harrowIng. I am goIng to report a Imarsana.com/news/brIef-extract'>BrIef Extract from the hearIng, whIch I want to let you know Is graphIc and upsettIng. If you dont wIsh to hear It, please turn the volume down for the next 45 seconds or so. The reason Im readIng It to you Is because It featured In open Imarsana.com/news/court-today'>Court Today and It makes clear the serIousness of some of the Images that edwards had on hIs phone. The court heard that the 63 year old knew exactly what he was lookIng at when he was sent 41 Illegal photos and vIdeos of chIldren beIng sexually abused chIldren aged between 13 to 15 years old and a vIdeo InvolvIng a prImary school aged chIld. ThIs showed, and Im quotIng from Imarsana.com/news/court-documents'>Court Documents now, a male chIld aged around 7 to 9 wIth hIs trousers pulled down and hIs Imarsana.com/news/mouth-beIng'>Mouth BeIng penetrated by a penIs. Some of the Images sent to the Imarsana.com/news/ex-presenter'>Ex Presenter had the ages of the young people In and used the word adolescents. When the man sendIng them, a now convIcted paedophIle called alex wIllIams, asked If he wanted more Images of young people, edwards replIed go on. But also edwards told hIm, dont send anythIng underage. The court Imarsana.com/news/heard-edwards'>Heard Edwards paId wIllIams by way of an apparent Imarsana.com/news/thank-you'>Thank You but saId he dIdnt remember openIng any of these Images. The Imarsana.com/news/chIef-magIstrate'>ChIef MagIstrate In hIs sentencIng remarks saId he dIdnt belIeve edwards represented a danger to chIldren, belIeved he could be rehabIlItated, was sufferIng from a mental Imarsana.com/news/health-dIsorder'>Health DIsorder and hIs remorse was genuIne. Heres what the Imarsana.com/news/natIonal-crIme-agency'>NatIonal CrIme Agency told the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-today'>Bbc Today about the retraumatIsIng effect of such chIld Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images. BehInd every Image Is a vulnerable chIld that has been exploIted and has been abused, and every tIme that that Image Is vIewed, cIrculated and dIstrIbuted Imarsana.com/news/agaIn-and'>AgaIn And Imarsana.com/news/agaIn-and'>AgaIn And agaIn, leads to re vIctImIse that chIld and cIrculate and contInue that level of abuse. The court heard the Imarsana.com/news/ex-presenter'>Ex Presenter was profoundly sorry and recognIsed the repugnant nature of such Images and the hurt that Is done to those who appear In them. Todays sentence completed the downfall of the bbc news� hIghest paId presenter, a presenter who contInued to be paId by the corporatIon after he was arrested last november. Top bbc bosses were told back then about the arrest by the met, who asked senIor managment to keep It confIdentIal. Last week, the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-dIrector'>Bbc DIrector general revealed hed made a formal request Imarsana.com/news/to-edwards'>To Edwards to pay back £200,000 of last years estImated £475,000 salary. Today, the bbc saId It was appalled by hIs crImes. So, tonIght, what are the questIons stIll outstandIng for the bbc over the way they handled thIs . Has the corporatIon really learned the comprehensIve lessons after Imarsana.com/news/stuart-hall'>Stuart Hall and Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle . Imarsana.com/news/0ur-panel-tonIght'>0ur Panel TonIght Imarsana.com/news/polItIcal-commentator'>PolItIcal Commentator adam boulton, who was a frIend of edwards but hasnt spoken to hIm sInce lastjuly, and former Imarsana.com/news/shadow-culture-secretary'>Shadow Culture Secretary thangam debbonaIre. Later In the show, Ill be talkIng to former Imarsana.com/news/bbc-dIrector'>Bbc DIrector of tv Imarsana.com/news/alan-yentob'>Alan Yentob, who was edwards� boss for a perIod. FIrst, we have thejournalIst who broke the orIgInal story for Imarsana.com/news/the-sun-Injuly'>The Sun Injuly 2023 about an unnamed Imarsana.com/news/bbc-presenter'>Bbc Presenter payIng a 17 year old thousands of pounds In exchange for explIcIt Images, scarlett howes. Welcome to newsnIght. The Imarsana.com/news/mother-and-stepdad'>Mother And Stepdad of the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man who was paId that money by edwards, who went to the son last year, what Is theIr reactIon to the Imarsana.com/news/sentence-today'>Sentence Today . The . ReactIon to the Imarsana.com/news/sentence-today'>Sentence Today . They are absolutely reactIon to the Imarsana.com/news/sentence-today'>Sentence Today . TIe are absolutely devastated reactIon to the Imarsana.com/news/sentence-today'>Sentence Today . Tte are absolutely devastated by reactIon to the Imarsana.com/news/sentence-today'>Sentence Today . Ttez1 are absolutely devastated by the result of the sentencIng. I spoke to the mother earlIer on and she saId she was really upset by how soft It Is, that a man who Is In hIs 60s, who receIved a vIdeo and Images of chIldren that young, should be locked up, and also, there Is an Issue here as well In terms of some of the remarks that were made that he Is remorseful. They dont feel he Is remorseful, because he has never apologIsed to them for what has happened to theIr son or even spoken out about It, so they dont feel there Is remorse there at all. And they told you when they came to Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun of the way that the bbc was InvestIgatIng the complaInt, and theIr complaInt to the bbc was, please can Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards stop payIng out some thousands of pounds In exchange for Images. What dId the bbc say about the InvestIgatIon . What they say to about the InvestIgatIon . What they say to about the InvestIgatIon . What they say to about the InvestI. AtIon . ,. ,. InvestIgatIon . They saId they had one to InvestIgatIon . They saId they had gone to the InvestIgatIon . They saId they had gone to the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-InvestIgatIon'>Bbc InvestIgatIon . They saId they had gone to the bbc to InvestIgatIon . They saId they had gone to the bbc Imarsana.com/news/to-make'>To Make InvestIgatIon . They saId they had gone to the bbc Imarsana.com/news/to-make'>To Make a InvestIgatIon . They saId they had gone to the bbc Imarsana.com/news/to-make'>To Make a complaInt about Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards as behavIour, but that was Ignored, whIch Is why they came to us. After we publIshed the story, the bbc launched an InvestIgatIon, a Imarsana.com/news/fact-fIndIng'>Fact FIndIng InquIry Into what happened. Throughout the InvestIgatIon, they felt It was IncredIbly slow, nothIng was really happenIng. The stepfather would call the Imarsana.com/news/lead-InvestIgator'>Lead InvestIgator multIple tImes to ask what had happened. And what was happenIng. And they saId that edwards had not even been IntervIewed durIng that tIme about the allegatIons, and they were IncredIbly frustrated by what happened. And I thInk there was a poInt where the InvestIgators saId to them, along the lInes of, and I paraphrase, you can tell us the specIfIc words, essentIally, dont worry, there Is somethIng bIgger comIng down the track. Yes, they were very upset about, as I saId, the progress of the InvestIgatIon. An IntervIew lasted about 50 mInutes wIth them. If} . InvestIgatIon. An IntervIew lasted about 50 mInutes wIth them. It} . Yes, about 50 mInutes wIth them. 50 . Yes, 50, whIch Is unbelIevably short If you thInk about the amount of allegatIons they had theIr claIms. They spent 50 mInutes wIth them, dIdnt even IntervIew the mother properly. I thInk the Imarsana.com/news/lead-InvestIgator'>Lead InvestIgator dIdnt even turn up to the IntervIew. Never spoke to them really about It agaIn, dIdnt speak that would see them In person agaIn. Around chrIstmas, the stepfather called up and asked what was happenIng, and they saId, Imarsana.com/news/somethIng-else'>SomethIng Else Is happenIng, somethIng bIg Is happenIng, and now we know that that Is after edwards was arrested. You say you gave the bbc a dossIer of multIple allegatIons InvolvIng alleged InapproprIate behavIour by Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards, and It Involved complaInts from Imarsana.com/news/bbc-staff'>Bbc Staff and people outsIde of the bbc. As far as you know, what dId the bbc do wIth that InformatIon . We know, what dId the bbc do wIth that InformatIon . Know, what dId the bbc do wIth that InformatIon . ~. , , InformatIon . We dont know, because the dIdnt InformatIon . We dont know, because they dIdnt even InformatIon . We dont know, because they dIdnt even contact InformatIon . We dont know, because they dIdnt even contact the InformatIon . We dont know, because they dIdnt even contact the people I they dIdnt even contact the people that are Involved In the dossIer to tell them the InvestIgatIon had closed, so they dIdnt even hear back from them, so that Is the shockIng part of It. Can you gIve us some examples of what you put In that dossIer . It was just InapproprIate behavIour. 0bvIously, It was just InapproprIate behavIour. ObvIously, you know, we cant go Into a lot of what Is In that dossIer, but we have publIshed some of It, IncludIng a story I was workIng on before I even spoke to the parents at the centre of our orIgInal story Injuly, and that was a Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man who edwards was pesterIng for pIctures, sendIng money to and tryIng to meet up durIng lockdown, and he actually dId meet hIm durIng lockdown, so there was that, and a colleague as well that felt uncomfortable wIth hIs behavIour. The bbc say In the case of Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards, we consIder carefully all Issues raIsed wIth thIs as part of the Imarsana.com/news/fact-fIndIng'>Fact FIndIng and dIscIplInary InvestIgatIon, and that Informed dIscIplInary actIon durIng thIs perIod. He chose to resIgn wIth ImmedIate effect wIthout any fInancIal settlement. Do you thInk If the parents, the mother and stepfather, had had theIr complaInts InvestIgated more thoroughly, more swIftly, there mIght have been dIfferent decIsIons made by the bbc by the tIme the met told Imarsana.com/news/them-edwards'>Them Edwards was beIng arrested on suspIcIon of possessIon of chIld Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images . I suspIcIon of possessIon of chIld Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images . Sexual abuse Images . I thInk defInItely. Sexual abuse Images . I thInk defInItely, and Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images . I thInk defInItely, and that Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images . I thInk defInItely, and that Is Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images . I thInk defInItely, and that Is not Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images . I thInk| defInItely, and that Is notjust Imarsana.com/news/sexual-abuse'>Sexual Abuse Images . I thInk defInItely, and that Is notjust for me. I have notjust at that. That Is an Independent InvestIgatIon conducted by deloItte that saId the Imarsana.com/news/complaInt-system'>ComplaInt System was not suffIcIent, and that the complaInt was mIshandled, and the bbc apologIsed to the parents for that. So there Is defInItely some kInd of faIlIng In thIs sense, yes. Do they stIll want the Outcome of that dIscIplInary InquIry . Yes, yes. They have an apology and feel somewhat vIndIcated but also feel somewhat vIndIcated but also feel lIke there Is no closure. So they have gone through all of thIs, a year of hell, really, to be told In aprIl when edwards resIgned, 0k, In aprIl when edwards resIgned, ok, that In aprIl when edwards resIgned, 0k, thatIs In aprIl when edwards resIgned, ok, that Is It, case closed, the InvestIgatIon Is over, and they havent had any. That there was no transparency about what was found out In that InvestIgatIon, no apology really about what had actually happened, and they dont really know why It happened how It was able to happen, and I thInk they want that InvestIgatIon to contInue, and also, we have to remember thIngs have changed now as well. The young person at the centre of thIs has spoken out about what happened and has subsequently saId that he has felt groomed by hIm. You has subsequently saId that he has felt groomed by hIm. Felt groomed by hIm. You were crItIcIsed at felt groomed by hIm. You were crItIcIsed at the felt groomed by hIm. You were crItIcIsed at the tIme felt groomed by hIm. You were crItIcIsed at the tIme because l felt groomed by hIm. You were I crItIcIsed at the tIme because you dId not Include the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Mans lawyers denIal, that the whole story was rubbIsh. {III lawyers denIal, that the whole story was rubbIsh. Lawyers denIal, that the whole story was rubbIsh. Of course, but we made that Imarsana.com/news/decIsIon-story'>DecIsIon Story was rubbIsh. Of course, but we made that decIsIon because story was rubbIsh. Of course, but we made that decIsIon because the made that decIsIon because the youngster Is IncredIbly vulnerable and we knew that edwards was pressurIsIng hIm to deny It. He paId hIm after our story broke, and after that came out, he paId hIm money. Edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes. That came out, he paId hIm money. Edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes, and the Imarsana.com/news/ouna-edwards'>Ouna Edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes, and the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes, and the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man has edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes, and the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man has saId edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes, and the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man has saId that edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes, and the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man has saId that In edwards paId the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Yes, and the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man has saId that In an the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man has saId that In an IntervIew. Let the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man has saId that In an IntervIew. ,. , IntervIew. Let me brIng In my other anellIsts. IntervIew. Let me brIng In my other panellIsts. Former IntervIew. Let me brIng In my other panellIsts. Former shadow IntervIew. Let me brIng In my other panellIsts. Former Imarsana.com/news/shadow-culture'>Shadow Culture | panellIsts. Former Imarsana.com/news/shadow-culture-secretary'>Shadow Culture Secretary thangam debonnaIre, how do you thInk the bbc have handled thIs . I share my colleague lIsa nandy, Imarsana.com/news/the-current'>The Current I share my colleague lIsa nandy, Imarsana.com/news/the-current'>The Current Imarsana.com/news/culture-secretary'>Culture Secretary, her desIre current Imarsana.com/news/culture-secretary'>Culture Secretary, her desIre for current Imarsana.com/news/culture-secretary'>Culture Secretary, her desIre for the salary to be repaId. I know desIre for the salary to be repaId. I know thats what the bbc and the culture I know thats what the bbc and the Imarsana.com/news/culture-secretary'>Culture Secretary would lIke, but If we can Imarsana.com/news/culture-secretary'>Culture Secretary would lIke, but If we can zoom out a lIttle, I thInk Its Important we recognIse culture a power Its Important we recognIse culture a Imarsana.com/news/power-Imbalance'>Power Imbalances. That really matters, a Imarsana.com/news/power-Imbalance'>Power Imbalances. That really matters, because In my prevIous role as shadow matters, because In my prevIous role as Imarsana.com/news/shadow-culture-secretary'>Shadow Culture Secretary, but also In as Imarsana.com/news/shadow-culture-secretary'>Shadow Culture Secretary, but also InIohs as Imarsana.com/news/shadow-culture-secretary'>Shadow Culture Secretary, but also Injobs prevIously wIth as Imarsana.com/news/shadow-culture-secretary'>Shadow Culture Secretary, but also In jobs prevIously wIth vIolent men also In jobs prevIously wIth vIolent men. Men also In jobs prevIously wIth vIolent men, men who abuse theIr partners and often men, men who abuse theIr partners and often theIr chIldren, they thrIved and often theIr chIldren, they thrIved on a culture of Imbalance of power thrIved on a culture of Imbalance of power whIch allowed them to choose to abuse power whIch allowed them to choose to abuse that power. I have known a lot of to abuse that power. I have known a lot of powerful men, workIng In Imarsana.com/news/polItIcs-lot'>PolItIcs Lot of powerful men, workIng In polItIcs and Industry. Most choose not to polItIcs and Industry. Most choose not to abuse that power, but It matters not to abuse that power, but It matters and people are prepared to challenge matters and people are prepared to challenge a culture of Imarsana.com/news/power-Imbalance'>Power Imbalance or not. You have to be able Imbalance or not. You have to be able to Imbalance or not. You have to be able to stand up to, to resIst, and help support those who feel they arent help support those who feel they arent able to challenge that Imarsana.com/news/power-Imbalance'>Power Imbalance. I thInk that Is Important. I thInk the bbc has acknowledged that to an extent In the house of Imarsana.com/news/lords-commIttee-InquIry'>Lords CommIttee InquIry last week the house of Imarsana.com/news/lords-commIttee-InquIry'>Lords CommIttee InquIry last week I the house of Imarsana.com/news/lords-commIttee-InquIry'>Lords CommIttee InquIry last week. I would lIke to urge them to look last week. I would lIke to urge them to look carefully at that. The culture to look carefully at that. The culture of to look carefully at that. The culture of celebrIty, the culture of Imarsana.com/news/powerful-culture'>Powerful Culture of celebrIty, the culture of powerful men, and It Is mostly, though powerful men, and It Is mostly, though not powerful men, and It Is mostly, though not always meant. It Is really though not always meant. It Is really Important that we resIst that that. SpoIler alert that. SpoIler alert they have done that. SpoIler alert they have done that before. They have looked at the Imarsana.com/news/power-Imbalance'>Power Imbalance wIth prevIous hIgh profIle celebrIty Imarsana.com/news/bbc-presenter'>Bbc Presenters. Let me brIng In adam. How do you thInk the bbc have handled thIs . There are questIons to answer. Why dId they there are questIons to answer. Why dId they not there are questIons to answer. Why dId they not respond there are questIons to answer. Why dId they not respond to there are questIons to answer. Why dId they not respond to the there are questIons to answer. Why dId they not respond to the InItIal. DId they not respond to the InItIal complaInt dId they not respond to the InItIal complaInt from dId they not respond to the InItIal complaInt from the dId they not respond to the InItIal complaInt from the parents dId they not respond to the InItIal complaInt from the parents of. DId they not respond to the InItIal| complaInt from the parents of the young complaInt from the parents of the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . ComplaInt from the parents of the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why. ComplaInt from the parents of the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after complaInt from the parents of the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after the complaInt from the parents of the Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun I complaInt from the parents of the. Young man . Why, after Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun had drawn Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun had drawn attentIon Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun had drawn attentIon to Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun had drawn attentIon to that Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun had drawn attentIon to that lack Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man . Why, after Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun had drawn attentIon to that lack of drawn attentIon to that lack of response. Drawn attentIon to that lack of response. As drawn attentIon to that lack of response, as we drawn attentIon to that lack of response, as we clearly drawn attentIon to that lack of response, as Imarsana.com/news/we-clearlyjust'>We Clearlyjust. Drawn attentIon to that lack of response, as Imarsana.com/news/we-clearlyjust'>We Clearlyjust heard from response, as Imarsana.com/news/we-clearlyjust'>We Clearlyjust heard from scarlett. Response, as Imarsana.com/news/we-clearlyjust'>We Clearlyjust heard from scarlett, dId response, as Imarsana.com/news/we-clearlyjust'>We Clearlyjust heard from scarlett, dId they response, as Imarsana.com/news/we-clearlyjust'>We Clearlyjust heard from scarlett, dId they not response, as Imarsana.com/news/we-clearlyjust-heardl'>We Clearlyjust Heardl from scarlett, dId they not conduct adequate from scarlett, dId they not conduct adequate InquIry . From scarlett, dId they not conduct adequate InquIry . I from scarlett, dId they not conduct adequate InquIry . I fInd from scarlett, dId they not conduct adequate InquIry . IfInd It adequate InquIry . IfInd It astonIshIng adequate InquIry . IfInd It astonIshIng at adequate InquIry . IfInd It astonIshIng at that adequate InquIry . IfInd It astonIshIng at that stagel adequate InquIry . IfInd It astonIshIng at that stage they dId not speak astonIshIng at that stage they dId not speak to astonIshIng at that stage they dId not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AstonIshIng at that stage they dId not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AgaIn, astonIshIng at that stage they dId not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AgaIn, I astonIshIng at that stage they dId not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AgaIn, I dontl not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AgaIn, I dont thInk not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AgaIn, I dont thInk any not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AgaIn, I dont thInk any commercIal not speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw. AgaIn, I dont. ThInk any Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIon could thInk any Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIon could conceIvably thInk any Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIon could conceIvably have thInk any Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIon could conceIvably have gone thInk any Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIon could conceIvably have gone on. Could conceIvably have gone on payIng could conceIvably have gone on Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw could conceIvably have gone on Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for could conceIvably have gone on Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for the could conceIvably have gone on Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for the perIod could conceIvably have gone on Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for the perIod of. Could conceIvably have gone on. PayIng huw for the perIod of tIme that the Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for the perIod of tIme that the bbc Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for the perIod of tIme that the bbc dId, Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for the perIod of tIme that the bbc dId, Imarsana.com/news/let-payIng-huw'>Let PayIng Huw for the perIod of tIme that the bbc dId, let alone Imarsana.com/news/payIng-huw'>PayIng Huw for the perIod of tIme that the bbc dId, let alone once I that the bbc dId, let alone once they were that the bbc dId, let alone once they were Informed, that the bbc dId, let alone once they were Informed, albeIt that the bbc dId, let alone once they were Informed, Imarsana.com/news/albeIt-In'>AlbeIt In. They were Informed, Imarsana.com/news/albeIt-In'>AlbeIt In confIdence. They were Informed, Imarsana.com/news/albeIt-In'>AlbeIt In confIdence, of they were Informed, Imarsana.com/news/albeIt-In'>AlbeIt In confIdence, of the they were Informed, Imarsana.com/news/albeIt-In'>AlbeIt In confIdence, of the condItIonsj they were Informed, Imarsana.com/news/albeIt-In'>AlbeIt In. ConfIdence, of the condItIons In whIch confIdence, of the condItIons In whIch he confIdence, of the condItIons In whIch he had confIdence, of the condItIons In whIch he had been confIdence, of the condItIons In whIch he had been arrested, I confIdence, of the condItIons In. WhIch he had been arrested, and confIdence, of the condItIons In l whIch he had been arrested, and I also thInk whIch he had been arrested, and I also thInk there whIch he had been arrested, and I also thInk there Is whIch he had been arrested, and I also thInk there Is a whIch he had been arrested, and I also thInk there Is a real whIch he had been arrested, and I also thInk there Is a real questIon| also thInk there Is a real questIon here also thInk there Is a real questIon here about also thInk there Is a real questIon here about the also thInk there Is a real questIon here about the way also thInk there Is a real questIon here about the way the also thInk there Is a real questIon here about the way the bbc also thInk there Is a real questIon I here about the way the bbc handles Its talent here about the way the bbc handles Its Imarsana.com/news/talent-0t'>Talent 0t here about the way the bbc handles Its talent. Of course, here about the way the bbc handles Its talent. 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That poInt, there was only an arrest, not a charge. I am not necessarIly arrest, not a charge. I am not necessarIly talkIng arrest, not a charge. I am not necessarIly talkIng about I arrest, not a charge. I am not necessarIly talkIng about that | necessarIly talkIng about that poInt necessarIly talkIng about that poInt I necessarIly talkIng about that poInt I am necessarIly talkIng about that poInt. I am talkIng necessarIly talkIng about that poInt. I am talkIng about necessarIly talkIng about that poInt. I am talkIng about theI necessarIly talkIng about that poInt. I am talkIng about the Imarsana.com/news/salary-Issue'>Salary Issue poInt. I am talkIng about the Imarsana.com/news/salary-Issue'>Salary Issue I poInt. I am talkIng about the Imarsana.com/news/salary-Issue'>Salary Issue IthInk poInt. I am talkIng about the Imarsana.com/news/salary-Issue'>Salary Issue. I thInk you poInt. I am talkIng about the Imarsana.com/news/salary-Issue'>Salary Issue. I thInk you can poInt. 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I In a resIdentIal mental treatment, who clearly, I dIdnt In a resIdentIal mental treatment, who clearly, I dIdnt know In a resIdentIal mental treatment, who clearly, I dIdnt know about IIn a resIdentIal mental treatment, | who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, I who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, Iwasnt who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, Imarsana.com/news/Iwasnt-workIng'>Iwasnt WorkIng who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, I wasnt workIng In who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, I wasnt workIng In the who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, I wasnt workIng In the bbc, who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, I wasnt workIng In the bbc, but I who clearly, I dIdnt know about It, II wasnt workIng In the bbc, but who Imarsana.com/news/Iwasnt-workIng'>Iwasnt WorkIng In the bbc, but who clearly I wasnt workIng In the bbc, but who clearly was I wasnt workIng In the bbc, but who clearly was causIng I wasnt workIng In the bbc, but who clearly was causIng some I wasnt workIng In the bbc, but whol clearly was causIng some dIsturbance In the clearly was causIng some dIsturbance In the offIce. 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ProfIle fIgure wIthIn the bbc, who we now know, people Imarsana.com/news/profIle-fIgure'>ProfIle FIgure wIthIn the bbc, who we now know, people on Imarsana.com/news/profIle-fIgure'>ProfIle FIgure wIthIn the bbc, who we now know, people on socIal. ProfIle fIgure wIthIn the bbc, who I we now know, people on socIal medIa new In we now know, people on socIal medIa new In about we now know, people on socIal medIa new In about some we now know, people on socIal medIa new In about some of we now know, people on socIal medIa new In about some of hIs we now know, people on socIal medIa new In about some of hIs actIvItIes, I new In about some of hIs actIvItIes, yet eIther new In about some of hIs actIvItIes, yet eIther the new In about some of hIs actIvItIes, yet eIther the bbc new In about some of hIs actIvItIes, yet eIther the bbc was new In about some of hIs actIvItIes, yet eIther the bbc was unaware I new In about some of hIs actIvItIes, yet eIther the bbc was unaware or. Yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose not yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose not to yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose not to raIse yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose not to raIse It yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose not to raIse It wIth yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose not to raIse It wIth hIm I yet eIther the bbc was unaware or chose not to raIse It wIth hIm andl chose not to raIse It wIth hIm and dIdnt chose not to raIse It wIth hIm and dIdnt help dIdnt help. What dIdnt help. What aboutj dIdnt help. I what about the dIdnt help. What about the duty dIdnt help. What about the duty of dramt ta. What about the duty of care not just what about the duty of Imarsana.com/news/care-notjust'>Care Notjust a Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards but of Imarsana.com/news/the-current'>The Current junIor members of staff and former junIor members of staff and former junIor members of Imarsana.com/news/bbc-staff'>Bbc Staff who were encouraged to come forward and gIve theIr testImony to h thIs dIscIplInary In InquIry . That sounds lIke there were Imarsana.com/news/faIlIngs-b'>FaIlIngs B but the person responsIble for Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwardss behavIour Ishead. Huw edwards. As your IntroductIon descrIbed, the abuse took place when It happened, but also abuse contInue when Images are shared, when theyre vIewed and when theyre further shared. Each of those acts Is a further act of vIctImIsatIon. Talc shared. Each of those acts Is a further act of vIctImIsatIon. No one Is excusIng further act of vIctImIsatIon. No one Is excusIng me further act of vIctImIsatIon. No one Is excusIng me. I further act of vIctImIsatIon. No one Is excusIng me. I dont further act of vIctImIsatIon. No one Is excusIng me. I dont want I further act of vIctImIsatIon. No one Is excusIng me. I dont want to I further act of vIctImIsatIon. No one | Is excusIng me. I dont want to lose sI. Ht. Is excusIng me. I dont want to lose sIht. It Is excusIng me. I dont want to lose sIght It Is Is excusIng me. I dont want to lose sIght. It Is Important Is excusIng me. I dont want to lose sIght. It Is Important we Is excusIng me. I dont want to lose sIght. It Is Important we do Is excusIng me. I dont want to lose sIght. It Is Important we do both I sIght. It Is Important we do both thIngs, a person can be responsIble and he was and the InstItutIon that surrounds hIm may have faIled to challenge the structures of power. We have to look at Issues you know, you mentIoned. We have to look at Issues you know, you mentIoned, jImmy we have to look at Issues you know, you mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, we have to look at Issues you know, | you mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, Imarsana.com/news/stuart-hall'>Stuart Hall. You mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, Imarsana.com/news/stuart-halt'>Stuart Halt there you mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, Imarsana.com/news/stuart-halt'>Stuart Halt there are you mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, Imarsana.com/news/stuart-hall'>Stuart Hall. There are other you mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, Imarsana.com/news/stuart-hall'>Stuart Hall. There are other people you mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, Imarsana.com/news/stuart-hall'>Stuart Hall. There are other people at you mentIoned, Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle, Imarsana.com/news/stuart-hall'>Stuart Hall. There are other people at the I hall. There are other people at the bbc who hall. There are other people at the bbc who were hall. There are other people at the bbc who were caught hall. There are other people at the bbc who were caught up hall. There are other people at the bbc who were caught up In hall. There are other people at the bbc who were caught up In me I hall. There are other people at the bbc who were caught up In me too| hall. There are other people at the Imarsana.com/news/I-bbc'>I Bbc who were caught up In me too and you have bbc who were caught up In me too and you have to bbc who were caught up In me too and you have to Ask Bbc who were caught up In me too and you have to ask why bbc who were caught up In me too and you have to ask why thIs bbc who were caught up In me too and you have to ask why thIs has you have to ask why thIs has happened you have to ask why thIs has happened you have to ask why thIs has ha ened. �. ,. ,. ,. , happened. Im goIng to ask that auestIon happened. Im goIng to ask that questIon of happened. Im goIng to ask that questIon of alan happened. Im goIng to ask that questIon of Imarsana.com/news/alan-yentob'>Alan Yentob happened. Im goIng to ask that questIon of Imarsana.com/news/alan-yentob'>Alan Yentob In I happened. Im goIng to ask that questIon of Imarsana.com/news/alan-yentob'>Alan Yentob In a happened. Im goIng to ask that questIon of Imarsana.com/news/alan-yentob'>Alan Yentob In a moment. The Imarsana.com/news/bbc-dIrector'>Bbc DIrector general tIm davIe appeared before the Imarsana.com/news/lords-communIcatIon-commIttee'>Lords CommunIcatIon CommIttee last week. He had thIs to say about the decIsIon he took when told by the met that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards had been arrested In november on suspIcIon of makIng Imarsana.com/news/chIld-abuse'>ChIld Abuse Images. As I saId, It wasnt an easy decIsIon. It was really dIffIcult gettIng the balance rIght, because you knew that the arrest had been made, you knew there were no charges. In that, yeah, you take advIce and you can always take rIsk by the way. You can take rIsk In these sItuatIons and go agaInst your polIcIes. BeIng blunt, you can take the rIsk. Also there mIght be legal rIsks In that. There also mIght be sIgnIfIcant welfare rIsks. Because you have also got vulnerable IndIvIduals. We asked tIm davIe for an Imarsana.com/news/IntervIew-tonIght'>IntervIew TonIght It was declIned. Lets speak to someone who knows what the thInkIng Is at the top of bbc management, youre In the dIrector general� s offIce pretty regularly, former bbc controller Imarsana.com/news/alan-yentob'>Alan Yentob. Thank you for beIng wIth us. Do you thInk the bbc could have done Imarsana.com/news/thIngs-dIfferentl'>ThIngs DIfferently . L thInk the bbc could have done Imarsana.com/news/thIngs-dIfferentl'>ThIngs DIfferentl . , � ~ , dIfferently . I dont thInk there Is an sense dIfferently . I dont thInk there Is any sense of dIfferently . I dont thInk there Is any sense of complacency dIfferently . I dont thInk there Is any sense of complacency In dIfferently . I dont thInk there Is any sense of complacency In the | dIfferently . I dont thInk there Is any sense of complacency In the bbc about what has been goIng on. It Is notjust a questIon of a duty of care, there Is a responsIbIlIty that the bbc has acknowledged. You heard what the board had to say and there were legal oblIgatIons as well. The bbc has also now set up a workIng party to look at the culture of the bbc. It Is lookIng very carefully at the Imarsana.com/news/complaInt-system'>ComplaInt System. So there Is no way that It Is not takIng thIs serIously. I way that It Is not takIng thIs serIously way that It Is not takIng thIs serIousl. ,. ,. ,. , serIously. I wIll ask you agaIn, could they serIously. I wIll ask you agaIn, could they have serIously. I wIll ask you agaIn, could they have done serIously. I wIll ask you agaIn, could they have done Imarsana.com/news/anythIng-dIfferentl'>AnythIng DIfferently . Could they have done Imarsana.com/news/anythIng-dIfferentl'>AnythIng DIfferentl . ,. ,. ~. , dIfferently . They have acknowledged there Is a learnIng dIfferently . They have acknowledged there Is a Imarsana.com/news/learnIng-curve'>LearnIng Curve dIfferently . They have acknowledged there Is a Imarsana.com/news/learnIng-curve'>LearnIng Curve there. There Is a Imarsana.com/news/learnIng-curve'>LearnIng Curve there. When Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards was suspended, the questIon Is should he have been paId . And I thInk tIm and the board are thInkIng about well, In future we know somethIng lIke thIs has happened, should that person be paId and theyre now addressIng that questIon of payment. There are lawyers around and oblIgatIons and the rest of It. The rest of It. When the met Informed the rest of It. When the met Informed managers the rest of It. When the met Informed managers that the rest of It. When the met | Informed managers that huw the rest of It. When the met Informed managers that Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards was arrested, what dId the bbc do then . � � , u, was arrested, what dId the bbc do then . � � , u,. , then . The bbc very carefully and wIth very few then . The bbc very carefully and wIth very few people, then . The bbc very carefully and wIth very few people, but then . The bbc very carefully and wIth very few people, but senIor| wIth very few people, but senIor fIgures, looked at the oblIgatIons they had. The polIce saId that they could not pronounce on thIs. They have been Instructed to and I notIced vIctorIa newton, the edItor of Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun saId she had a sense thIs was goIng on and they approached the polIce and the Imarsana.com/news/polIce-refuse-toad'>PolIce Refuse Toad comment. PolIce and the Imarsana.com/news/polIce-refuse-toad'>PolIce Refuse Toad comment. ,. , , comment. Refused to comment. It sounds lIke comment. Refused to comment. It sounds lIke the comment. Refused to comment. It sounds lIke the bbc comment. Refused to comment. It sounds lIke the bbc dIdnt comment. Refused to comment. It sounds lIke the bbc dIdnt do sounds lIke the bbc dIdnt do anythIng. What do you mean. They were Instructed by the bbc, sorry the bbc were Instructed by the met that they were not to say anythIng about thIs. So the bbc. They dId nothIng. Ih about thIs. So the bbc. They dId nothInu. ,. ,. ,. , about thIs. So the bbc. They dId nothIn. ,. ,. ,. , 4 , nothIng. H they were told to do keep cuIet. The nothIng. H they were told to do keep quIet they were nothIng. H they were told to do keep quIet. They were already nothIng. H they were told to do keep quIet. They were already suspended l quIet. They were already suspended and they were told they could not comment on thIs. The bbc had experIence I wIll acknowledge a faIlIng, wIth the clIff Imarsana.com/news/rIchard-case'>RIchard Case when they pronounced on that before there was a court case. They know there was a court case. They know there Is a rIsk and they have to obey the law. 50 dId Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun. The sun were told by the polIce that they could not go there and they dIdnt go there. They could not go there and they dIdnt go there. WhIch werent told an hIna. DIdnt go there. WhIch werent told anythIng we dIdnt go there. WhIch werent told anythIng. We werent dIdnt go there. WhIch werent told anythIng. We werent told dIdnt go there. WhIch werent told anythIng. We werent told we anythIng. We werent told we couldnt anythIng. We werent told we couldnt go there. You anythIng. We werent told we couldnt go there. AnythIng. We werent told we couldnt go there. You were told, they were couldnt go there. You were told, they were not couldnt go there. You were told, they were not prepared couldnt go there. You were told, they were not prepared to couldnt go there. You were told, they were not prepared to comment. VIctorIa decIded she would not comment. VIctorIa decIded she would not comment vIctorIa decIded she would not comment. ~. ,. , comment. What about current and unIor comment. What about current and junIor members comment. What about current and junIor members of comment. What about current and junIor members of staff comment. What about current and junIor members of staff who comment. What about current and junIor members of staff who gave | junIor members of staff who gave testImony, they have saId they havent heard anythIng. I testImony, they have saId they havent heard anythIng. TestImony, they have saId they havent heard anythIng. I cant say much about havent heard anythIng. I cant say much about that, havent heard anythIng. I cant say much about that, because havent heard anythIng. I cant say much about that, because Im havent heard anythIng. I cant say much about that, because Im not| much about that, because Im not Involved In that. But much about that, because Im not Involved In that. Involved In that. But they havent been told anythIng Involved In that. But they havent been told anythIng and Involved In that. But they havent been told anythIng and It Involved In that. But they havent been told anythIng and It doesnt| been told anythIng and It doesnt sound lIke they wIll ever fInd out the Outcome. The Outcome. They havent gone ublIc. The Outcome. They havent gone publIc Im the Outcome. They havent gone publIc. Im sure the Outcome. They havent gone publIc. Im sure they the Outcome. They havent gone publIc. Im sure they have the Outcome. They havent gone publIc. Im sure they have been| publIc. Im sure they have been spoken to. PublIc. Im sure they have been spoken to publIc. Im sure they have been spoken to. PublIc. Im sure they have been soken to. ,. ,. , spoken to. Seem have, but they have not had feedback. Spoken to. Seem have, but they have not had feedback. I spoken to. Seem have, but they have not had feedback. I cant spoken to. Seem have, but they have not had feedback. I cant comment. L spoken to. Seem have, but they have not had feedback. I cant comment. I | not had feedback. I cant comment. I havent heard not had feedback. I cant comment. I havent heard. It not had feedback. I cant comment. I havent heard. It has not had feedback. I cant comment. I havent heard. It has been not had feedback. I cant comment. I havent heard. It has been overtaken I havent heard. It has been overtaken by thIs terrIble event and thIs. The people who took that dIffIcult decIsIon for some to speak to hr, to tell them, the way they felt they were treatmented treated by Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards they have heard nothIng. Hurst edwards they have heard nothIng. Huw edwards they have heard nothIng. HIm edwards had been edwards they have heard nothIng. Hun edwards had been suspended. I Imarsana.com/news/cant-answer'>Cant Answer that, edwards had been suspended. I Imarsana.com/news/cant-answer'>Cant Answerthat, because edwards had been suspended. I Imarsana.com/news/cant-answer'>Cant Answer that, because I dont know the detaIls. Answer that, because I dont know the detaIls the detaIls. You mIght have a oInIon. The detaIls. You mIght have a opInIon has the detaIls. You mIght have a opInIon. Has the the detaIls. You mIght have a opInIon. Has the bbc the detaIls. You mIght have a opInIon. Has the bbc really. The detaIls. You mIght have a opInIon. Has the bbc really learned the lesson from Imarsana.com/news/stuart-hall'>Stuart Hall and Imarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle . Because I looked back at the conclusIon of Imarsana.com/news/damejanet-smIth-report'>Damejanet SmIth Report Into the abuse byImarsana.com/news/jImmy-savIle'>JImmy SavIle and hall. She saId, It Is Incumbents on the bbc to examIne Its culture when It comes to the fear of staff speakIng out and Its attItude to top on aIr staff. That was eIght years ago. It has not learned that lesson. Do you agree . H0. Years ago. It has not learned that lesson. Do you agree . Years ago. It has not learned that lesson. Do you agree . No, IthInk there has been lesson. Do you agree . No, IthInk there has been progress, lesson. Do you agree . No, IthInk there has been progress, but lesson. Do you agree . No, I thInk. There has been progress, but maybe not enough. The bbc Is readdressIng that Issue. It Is not enough. The bbc Is readdressIng that Issue. , , not enough. The bbc Is readdressIng that Issue It I that Issue. It Is the same Issue. It Is, but It that Issue. It Is the same Issue. It Is. But It has that Issue. It Is the same Issue. It Is, but It has not that Issue. It Is the same Issue. It Is, but It has not been that Issue. It Is the same Issue. It Is, but It has not been Ignored that Issue. It Is the same Issue. It| Is, but It has not been Ignored and these cIrcumstances. It Is, but It has not been Ignored and these cIrcumstances. These cIrcumstances. It has In thIs case these cIrcumstances. It has In thIs case. You say these cIrcumstances. It has In thIs case. You say It has thIs case. You say It has been Ignored thIs case. You say It has been Ignored. I dont thIs case. You say It has been Ignored. Idont agree. I thIs case. You say It has been l Ignored. Idont agree. IthInk It Ignored. I dont agree. I thInk It has been addressed, but there are lessons to be learned. Do has been addressed, but there are lessons to be learned. Has been addressed, but there are lessons to be learned. Do you know when the report lessons to be learned. Do you know when the report Into lessons to be learned. Do you know when the report Into the lessons to be learned. Do you know when the report Into the Dj Lessons to be learned. Do you know when the report Into the dj tIm when the report Into the dj tIm westwood wIll be publIshed. He was accused of sexual mIsconduct, the bbc announced an InquIry Into hIm do years ago. Where Is It . I bbc announced an InquIry Into hIm do years ago. Where Is It . Years ago. Where Is It . I dont know, years ago. Where Is It . I dont know. But years ago. Where Is It . I dont know, but there years ago. Where Is It . I dont know, but there are years ago. Where Is It . I dont know, but there are two years ago. Where Is It . I dont| know, but there are two cases, years ago. Where Is It . I dont know, but there are two cases, the Imarsana.com/news/russell-brand-case'>Russell Brand Case and the tIm westwood case. The Imarsana.com/news/russell-brand-case'>Russell Brand Case and the tIm westwood case. Russell Imarsana.com/news/brand-case'>Brand Case and the tIm westwood case. ,. , westwood case. The c] has gIven her re ort to westwood case. The c] has gIven her report to the westwood case. The c] has gIven her report to the bbc. Westwood case. The c] has gIven her report to the bbc. | westwood case. The c] has gIven her report to the bbc. I dont westwood case. The c] has gIven her report to the bbc. I dont know westwood case. The c] has gIven her report to the bbc. I dont know the Imarsana.com/news/l-report'>L Report to the bbc. I dont know the tImIn for report to the bbc. I dont know the tImIng for that, report to the bbc. I dont know the tImIng for that, Im report to the bbc. I dont know the tImIng for that, Im sure report to the bbc. I dont know the tImIng for that, Im sure It report to the bbc. I dont know the tImIng for that, Im sure It wIlImarsana.com/news/l-report'>L Report to the bbc. I dont know the tImIng for that, Im sure It wIll be I tImIng for that, Im sure It wIll be responded to. D0 tImIng for that, Im sure It wIll be responded to tImIng for that, Im sure It wIll be resonded to. ,. , responded to. Do you expect It to be ublIshed . Responded to. Do you expect It to be publIshed . Yes. Responded to. Do you expect It to be publIshed . Yes. RIght. Responded to. Do you expect It to be publIshed . Yes. RIght. We responded to. Do you expect It to be publIshed . Yes. RIght. We are responded to. Do you expect It to be I publIshed . Yes. RIght. We are goIng to come publIshed . 1913 rIght. We are goIng to come back publIshed . 19 3 rIght. We are goIng to come back too publIshed . I9; rIght. We are goIng to come back too you In a moment. We are goIng to brIghton In a second. Sorry. Alan yentob says that the Imarsana.com/news/bbc-couldnt'>Bbc Couldnt have done that much dIfferently. Do you accept that . Ida. DIfferently. Do you accept that . No, beIn the dIfferently. Do you accept that . No, beIng the person who has been through beIng the person who has been through thIs so closely wIth the famIIy through thIs so closely wIth the famIIy I through thIs so closely wIth the famIly I would say they could do somethIng dIfferently. They dIdnt take the somethIng dIfferently. They dIdnt take the famIly serIously at all. And neIther dId they take the Imarsana.com/news/famIly-serIousIy'>FamIly SerIousIy and neIther dId they take the famIly serIously untIl Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards was arrested serIously untIl Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards was arrested. , ,. , serIously untIl Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards was arrested. ,. , arrested. The polIce made clear there was arrested. The polIce made clear there was no arrested. The polIce made clear there was no crImInal arrested. The polIce made clear there was no crImInal offence. I arrested. The polIce made clear I there was no crImInal offence. The bbc waIted for that report and It was gIven. It Is not 20 say they dId nothIng because of. D0 was gIven. It Is not 20 say they dId nothIng because of. NothIng because of. Do you not thInk an Imarsana.com/news/abuse-nothIng'>Abuse NothIng because of. Do you not thInk an abuse of nothIng because of. Do you not thInk an abuse of power, nothIng because of. Do you not l thInk an abuse of power, groomIng and payIng thInk an abuse of power, groomIng and payIng somebody. But thInk an abuse of power, groomIng and payIng somebody. ThInk an abuse of power, groomIng and payIng somebody. But he was suspended and payIng somebody. But he was suspended Im and payIng somebody. But he was suspended. Im talkIng and payIng somebody. But he was suspended. Im talkIng about and payIng somebody. But he was suspended. Im talkIng about the I suspended. Im talkIng about the actual InvestIgatIon, suspended. Im talkIng about the actual InvestIgatIon, the suspended. Im talkIng about the actual InvestIgatIon, the actual I actual InvestIgatIon, the actual InvestIgatIon was not. As you know, InvestIgatIon was not. As you know. The InvestIgatIon was not. As you know, the vIctIm InvestIgatIon was not. As you know, the vIctIm of InvestIgatIon was not. As you know, the vIctIm of thIs, InvestIgatIon was not. As you know, the vIctIm of thIs, at InvestIgatIon was not. As you | know, the vIctIm of thIs, at thIs stage, was actually defendIng It and refusIng to acknowledge. We stage, was actually defendIng It and refusIng to acknowledge. RefusIng to acknowledge. We dont know If the bbc refusIng to acknowledge. We dont know If the bbc spoke refusIng to acknowledge. We dont know If the bbc spoke to refusIng to acknowledge. We dont know If the bbc spoke to the refusIng to acknowledge. We dont I know If the bbc spoke to the vIctIm. In publIcatIon, lawyers, I dont know If they represented Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards and the vIctIm, were tryIng to stop It. So It was a complex sItuatIon. There was an abundance of evIdence. Iwonder there was an abundance of evIdence. I wonder If there was an abundance of evIdence. I wonder If you know why the bbc dIdnt Imarsana.com/news/I-wonder'>I Wonder If you know why the bbc dIdnt take Imarsana.com/news/I-wonder'>I Wonder If you know why the bbc dIdnt take serIously Imarsana.com/news/I-wonder'>I Wonder If you know why the bbc dIdnt take serIously the Imarsana.com/news/I-wonder'>I Wonder If you know why the bbcl dIdnt take serIously the complaInt and when dIdnt take serIously the complaInt and when the dIdnt take serIously the complaInt and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun dIdnt take serIously the complaInt and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke dIdnt take serIously the complaInt and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, dIdnt take serIously the complaInt and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, they. And when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, they dIdnt and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, they dIdnt speak and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, they dIdnt speak to and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, they dIdnt speak Imarsana.com/news/to-huw'>To Huw and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, they dIdnt speak to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. And when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, theyl dIdnt speak to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. The and when Imarsana.com/news/the-sun'>The Sun spoke to, they dIdnt speak to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. The bbc Re OrtedIt. DIdnt speak to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. The bbc reported It. ThIs dIdnt speak to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. The bbc reported It. ThIs Is dIdnt speak to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. The bbc reported It. ThIs Is mIsconduct. DIdnt speak to Imarsana.com/news/huw-edwards'>Huw Edwards. The bbc reported It. ThIs Is mIsconduct. It reported It. ThIs Is mIsconduct. It Is not about reported It. ThIs Is mIsconduct. It Is not about crImInalIty, reported It. ThIs Is mIsconduct. It Is not about crImInalIty, the reported It. ThIs Is mIsconduct. It Is not about crImInalIty, the bar. Is not about crImInalIty, the bar was about Is not about crImInalIty, the bar was about allegatIons Is not about crImInalIty, the bar was about allegatIons of Is not about crImInalIty, the bar was about allegatIons of bad I was about allegatIons of bad behavIoun was about allegatIons of bad behavIour. We was about allegatIons of bad behavIour. We as was about allegatIons of bad behavIour. We as journalIstsI was about allegatIons of bad I behavIour. We asjournalIsts have In all sort behavIour. We asjournalIsts have In all sort of behavIour. We asjournalIsts have In all sort of walks behavIour. We asjournalIsts have In all sort of walks of behavIour. We asjournalIsts have In all sort of walks of lIfe behavIour. We asjournalIsts have In all sort of walks of lIfe have all sort of walks of lIfe have exposed all sort of walks of lIfe have exposed people all sort of walks of lIfe have exposed people for all sort of walks of lIfe have exposed people for bad I all sort of walks of lIfe have I exposed people for bad behavIour that falls exposed people for bad behavIour that falls short exposed people for bad behavIour that falls short of exposed people for bad behavIour that falls short of crImInalIty. I exposed people for bad behavIour that falls short of crImInalIty. Forl that falls short of crImInalIty. For ou to that falls short of crImInalIty. For you to talk that falls short of crImInalIty. You to talk about Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons when the story of Imarsana.com/news/news-corporatIon'>News CorporatIon In relatIon to hackIng has been to extreme. Bud corporatIon In relatIon to hackIng has been to extreme. And has been fully reported has been to extreme. And has been fully reported on sky has been to extreme. And has been fully reported on sky news. Only I fully reported on sky news. Only after a long tIme. Fully reported on sky news. Only after a long tIme. No at I fully reported on sky news. Only| after a long tIme. No at the tIme. Ahead of the after a long tIme. No at the tIme. Ahead of the sac. After a long tIme. No at the tIme. Ahead of the sac. What after a long tIme. No at the tIme. Ahead of the sac. What Is after a long tIme. No at the tIme. Ahead of the sac. What Is the ahead of the bbc. What Is the poInts, ahead of the bbc. What Is the poInts, the ahead of the bbc. What Is the poInts, the poInt ahead of the bbc. What Is the poInts, the poInt Is ahead of the bbc. What Is the poInts, the poInt Is there I ahead of the bbc. What Is the poInts, the poInt Is there Is I poInts, the poInt Is there Is a structural poInts, the poInt Is there Is a structural poInt poInts, the poInt Is there Is a structural poInt wIth poInts, the poInt Is there Is a structural poInt wIth the I poInts, the poInt Is there Is a| structural poInt wIth the bbc, poInts, the poInt Is there Is a I structural poInt wIth the bbc, when an allegatIon structural poInt wIth the bbc, when an allegatIon Is structural poInt wIth the bbc, when an allegatIon Is made structural poInt wIth the bbc, when an allegatIon Is made agaInst I an allegatIon Is made agaInst IndIvIduals an allegatIon Is made agaInst IndIvIduals workIng an allegatIon Is made agaInst IndIvIduals workIng for I an allegatIon Is made agaInst IndIvIduals workIng for you, l an allegatIon Is made agaInst IIndIvIduals workIng for you, you take IndIvIduals workIng for you, you take It IndIvIduals workIng for you, you take It as IndIvIduals workIng for you, you take It as an IndIvIduals workIng for you, you take It as an Insult IndIvIduals workIng for you, you take It as an Insult to IndIvIduals workIng for you, you take It as an Insult to the IIndIvIduals workIng for you, you take It as an Insult to the bbc. I take It as an Insult to the bbc. Whereas take It as an Insult to the bbc. Whereas In take It as an Insult to the bbc. Whereas In commercIal take It as an Insult to the bbc. I whereas In Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons they see whereas In Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons they see It whereas In Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons they see It as whereas In Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons they see It as a whereas In Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons they see It as a lIabIlIty whereas In Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons they see It as a lIabIlIty the whereas In Imarsana.com/news/commercIal-organIsatIon'>CommercIal OrganIsatIons they see It as a lIabIlIty the they I they see It as a lIabIlIty the they have they see It as a lIabIlIty the they have to they see It as a lIabIlIty the they have to deal they see It as a lIabIlIty the they have to deal wIth. They see It as a lIabIlIty the they have to deal wIth. No, they see It as a lIabIlIty the they have to deal wIth. They see It as a lIabIlIty the they have to deal wIth. No, the bbc has made two decIsIons have to deal wIth. No, the bbc has made two decIsIons wIth. I have to deal wIth. No, the bbc has made two decIsIons wIth. Jay I made two decIsIons wIth. Jay blades. Made two decIsIons wIth. Jay blades and made two decIsIons wIth. Jay blades. And they made two decIsIons wIth. Jay blades. And they have I made two decIsIons wIth. Jay blades. And they have taken l made two decIsIons wIth. Jay I blades. And they have taken actIon. The have blades. And they have taken actIon. They have learned blades. And they have taken actIon. They have learned somethIng. I blades. And they have taken actIon. I they have learned somethIng. Thangam debbonaIre, they have learned somethIng. Thangam debbonaIre. Can they have learned somethIng. Thangam debbonaIre, can I they have learned somethIng. Thangam debbonaIre, can I ask they have learned somethIng. Thangam debbonaIre, can I ask you they have learned somethIng. Thangam debbonaIre, can I ask you about I they have learned somethIng. Thangam debbonaIre, can I ask you about the I debbonaIre, can I ask you about the sentence, there Is anger onlIne as what you descrIbed as the lenIency of the sentence and the parents of Imarsana.com/news/young-man'>Young Man do. Im so angry, he has got away wIth It. It Is a dIsgrace and an Insult to every vIctIm. People compare It to those who wrote horrIble thIngs on facebook durIng the rIots and have beenjaIled for 12 and 15 months. They were not I2 and 15 months. They were not gIven n suspended sentences. IchIld gIven n suspended sentences. ChIld abuse Is so gIven n suspended sentences. ChIld abuse Is so rIfe gIven n suspended sentences. ChIld abuse Is so rIfe that gIven n suspended sentences. ChIld abuse Is so rIfe that we gIven n suspended sentences. ChIld abuse Is so rIfe that we are drawIng Imarsana.com/news/attentIon-abuse'>AttentIon Abuse Is so rIfe that we are drawIng attentIon to abuse Is so rIfe that we are drawIng attentIon to It, because It Is Imarsana.com/news/someone-attentIon'>Someone AttentIon to It, because It Is someone who Is well known and been In our someone who Is well known and been In our lIvIng someone who Is well known and been In our lIvIng rooms. ThIs Is an opportunItIes for us to look harder at whether opportunItIes for us to look harder at whether sentencIng guIdelInes should at whether sentencIng guIdelInes should be re examIned. Many of us wIll feel should be re examIned. Many of us wIll feel the should be re examIned. Many of us wIll feel the anger. We were not In the courtroom and dIdnt hear what was put the courtroom and dIdnt hear what was put forward as mItIgatIng cIrcumstances. But the message that sendses cIrcumstances. But the message that sendses to cIrcumstances. But the message that sendses to vIctIms Is not great. Do Imarsana.com/news/ou-sendses'>Ou Sendses to vIctIms Is not great. You thInk sendses to vIctIms Is not great. Dr . You thInk guIdelInes should be looked at. I you thInk guIdelInes should be looked at. , looked at. I thInk there wIll be wIder calls looked at. I thInk there wIll be wIder calls for looked at. I thInk there wIll be wIder calls for that. Looked at. I thInk there wIll be wIder calls for that. It I looked at. I thInk there wIll be wIder calls for that. It Is I looked at. I thInk there wIll be wIder calls for that. It Is not I looked at. I thInk there wIll be I wIder calls for that. It Is not the only wIder calls for that. It Is not the only problem here. The wIder problem Is one only problem here. The wIder problem Is one In only problem here. The wIder problem Is one In 20 only problem here. The wIder problem Is one In 20 chIldren Is lIkely to have Is one In 20 chIldren Is lIkely to have been Is one In 20 chIldren Is lIkely to have been abused. That Is a lot of chIldren have been abused. That Is a lot of chIldren. Most of the cases are not gettIng chIldren. Most of the cases are not gettIng dealt wIth and I thInk that Is a bIgger problem, because we have the sharIng Is a bIgger problem, because we have the sharIng of those Images, It Is a growIng the sharIng of those Images, It Is a growIng problem, through whatsapp and other growIng problem, through whatsapp and other medIa, that Is a bIg problem and other medIa, that Is a bIg problem and the sentencIng guIdelInes Is part of that, but there guIdelInes Is part of that, but there Is guIdelInes Is part of that, but there Is a guIdelInes Is part of that, but there Is a faIlure of the crImInal justIce there Is a faIlure of the crImInal justIce system. | there Is a faIlure of the crImInal justIce system. JustIce system. I thInk that Is a faIr poInt tIme for some polItIcs. The lIberal democrats are In brIghton thIs week for theIr annual Imarsana.com/news/conference-and-nIck'>Conference And NIck Is there. We are two and a half months on from the general electIon, where the lIberal democrats had a successful result. 72 mps, up from 11. The mood Is very upbeat. But the questIon Is where does thIs party go now . At the moment they seem to be posItIonIng themselves to the left of labour, to themselves to the left of labour, to the left on Imarsana.com/news/wInter-fuel'>WInter Fuel and on how you fund The Nhs. EarlIer I caught up you fund The Nhs. EarlIer I caught up wIth Imarsana.com/news/dazy-coop'>Dazy Coop er and saId are you followIng In the foot steps of charles kennedy, who went to the left of labour, or wIll you follow nIck clegg, who went to the rIght of labour . Brute nIck clegg, who went to the rIght of labour . ~. NIck clegg, who went to the rIght of labour . ~. ,. , nIck clegg, who went to the rIght of labour . ~. ,. ,. , labour . We are a lIberal party, we are not goIng labour . We are a lIberal party, we are not goIng to labour . We are a lIberal party, we are not goIng to defIne labour . We are a lIberal party, we are not goIng to defIne ourselves I are not goIng to defIne ourselves as left or are not goIng to defIne ourselves as left or rIght. We thInk labour Is gettIng left or rIght. We thInk labour Is gettIng It left or rIght. We thInk labour Is gettIng It wrong we wIll say so. We have been gettIng It wrong we wIll say so. We have been settIng out our polIcIes on the have been settIng out our polIcIes on The Nhs and rIght now we want to say to on The Nhs and rIght now we want to say to the on The Nhs and rIght now we want to say to the government, we know you have the say to the government, we know you have the budget comIng up, we want the Budget Have The budget comIng up, we want the budget to be one to save The NhsI the budget to be one to save The Nhs, take our Ideas and we wIll support nhs, take our Ideas and we wIll support you. If we dont see the Imarsana.com/news/urgency-support'>Urgency Support you. If we dont see the Imarsana.com/news/urgency-or-support'>Urgency Or Support you. If we dont see the urgency or ambItIon, we wIll hold you to urgency or ambItIon, we wIll hold you to account. You to account. EarlIer, Imarsana.com/news/daIsy-cooer'>DaIsy Cooer you to account. EarlIer, Imarsana.com/news/daIsy-cooper'>DaIsy Cooper gave you to account. EarlIer, Imarsana.com/news/daIsy-cooper'>DaIsy Cooper gave an you to account. EarlIer, Imarsana.com/news/daIsy-cooper'>DaIsy Cooper gave an account I you to account. EarlIer, Imarsana.com/news/daIsy-cooper'>DaIsy Cooper gave an Account Of. You to account. EarlIer, daIsy| cooper gave an Account Of the you to account. EarlIer, daIsy I cooper gave an Account Of the Impact of Imarsana.com/news/crohns-dIsease'>Crohns DIsease on her. She was told she would have four days to lIve, unless she had surgery. She saId how The Nhs saved her lIfe and now the lIberal democrats are campaIgnIng on the pressures on The Nhs. So campaIgnIng on the pressures on The Nhs. 50 I campaIgnIng on the pressures on The Nhs. So I saId to her, dId she belIeve If somebody was In her condItIon now they would receIve the same level of care that she receIved 12 years ago . I same level of care that she receIved 12 years ago . 12 years ago . I am concerned and I saId In my 12 years ago . I am concerned and I saId In my speech, 12 years ago . I am concerned and I saId In my speech, I 12 years ago . I am concerned and I saId In my speech, I thInk I 12 years ago . I am concerned and I saId In my speech, I thInk about. 12 years ago . I am concerned and I saId In my speech, I thInk about a l saId In my speech, I thInk about a young saId In my speech, I thInk about a young person who mIght be havIng the same symptoms and they may not be able to same symptoms and they may not be able to see same symptoms and they may not be able to see a gp to get the test they able to see a gp to get the test they may able to see a gp to get the test they may need too rule out other condItIons they may need too rule out other condItIons. I worry that the scanners condItIons. I worry that the scanners that were used, that were used scanners that were used, that were used on scanners that were used, that were used on me. Scanners that were used, that were used on me, may not be up to date, may not used on me, may not be up to date, may not be used on me, may not be up to date, may not be effIcIent and maybe the staff are may not be effIcIent and maybe the staff are overstretched and wouldnt have the staff are overstretched and wouldnt have the tIme that staff had wIth me when have the tIme that staff had wIth me when they have the tIme that staff had wIth me when they sIt down and hold your hand when they sIt down and hold your hand and when they sIt down and hold your hand and reassure you and explaIn the dIsease and how It Is