Using sabotaged pagers and Walkie Talkies a campaign widely believed to have been carried about by israels spy agency, mossad. 12 people were killed and nearly 3,000 injured On Tuesday. Yesterday, 25 people were killed and 600 people injured in a second wave of blasts. Hezbollah, which is backed by iran and is proscribed as a terrorist group, by the us and uk and western governments, has promised to retaliate. Fears of an all out warare mounting, israel announced yesterday that they have moved to a new phase in the war, the stakes could not be much higher. 0n todays programme, well hear exactly how the Hezbollah Leader responds. 0ur Teams in the Bbc Newsroom are monitoring that. 0ur Specialist correspondents will provide context and analysis. Frank gardner, our Security Correspondent, is with me. So is our diplomatic correspondent, james landale. Daniel de simone is our correspondent injerusalem. Bronwen maddox from Chatham House is with us. Shes just back from israels northern border. Malcolm nance is a former Us Navy counterterrorism expert, hes in new york. Well also be getting live reaction from beirut. Before all of that, lets start this hour with this report from hugo bachega. This is the moment a blast rocks beirut. Hezbollah had gathered to bury the victims from the explosions of the day before until it was hit by a new wave of attacks, this time Targeting Walkie talkies used by the group. Apparently another operation by israel. One of the Explosions Yesterday happened not farfrom here, in a Hezbollah Stronghold in southern beirut. There was a lot of Chaos And Confusion because many believe that no electronic device was safe. Hezbollah members stopped us a number of times, telling us not to use our cameras, our phones, and today those concerns continue. Translation its scary, its frightening. Where are we going . I have no idea, this is frightening. We cant cope any more. Translation of course i was scared, is there anyone who wouldnt be scared in this situation . You can hide from a bullet but this is much more difficult. If i want to answer my phone, i am too scared. Translation this is not a facetoface battle, it is a cowardly way to fight. If they want to show their strength, do it on the battlefield. The attacks on lebanon began on Tuesday Pagers used by hezbollah exploded as people were shopping or At Home with their families. The group had turned to this old School Technology because of security concerns, fearing that israel was monitoring Mobile Phones to track and kill its fighters. Israel is widely believed to have been behind the attacks. As usual, it hasnt claimed responsibility, but the suspicion is that it managed to Add Explosives inside the devices. For almost a year, Hezbollah And Israel have been fighting along the border, a conflict that so far has been relatively contained, but concerns are rising again that this may escalate into an all out war. Hugo bachega, bbc news. We hope to talk to you as you go through the course of the programme today. I want to show you the live pictures that are coming into us, because the statement has just started, so we will monitor that here, this is the first official response we have had from the Hezbollah Leader, so we will continue to monitor this, leader, so we will continue to monitorthis, it leader, so we will continue to monitor this, it is likely to go on for some time, but as we see these pictures, let me bring in Security Correspondent Frank Gardner and our diplomatic correspondence james landale, who will be with me through the next hour or so. Frank, first of all, hezbollah has promised retaliation, so all eyes on Hassan Nasrallah and what he might say. Yeah, i think it will and what he might say. Yeah, i think it will be and what he might say. Yeah, i think it will be more and what he might say. Yeah, i think it will be more important | think it will be more important as to what orders he gives, because this isnt the first time since the october the 7th Raid that he has given a speech, which we all waited breathlessly for, full of fiery Rhetoric And Nothing much happened after it. Lets put it this way, hezbollah is in disarray, they are hurting, they have been humiliated by this, it is a massive blow to them tactically. It doesnt necessarily change the strategic situation on the northern border, apple has still got an arsenal of 150,000 rockets and missiles that can threaten israel. Hezbollah has still got. Residents on both Sides of the border are kept from their homes. What matters now is how they retaliate and when, and i think hezbollah will calibrate this quite carefully. There is a limit to how much you can read into his speech, because it will be full of anger, vowed revenge, we will make them suffer et cetera, and certainly there will be desire from his fighters to do exactly that, you know, many of those people have lost eyes and private parts, you know, really grim stuff from these injuries, so there is a big desire to Hit Back. But hezbollah know that if they Hit Back in a way that targets a lot of israeli civilians, the Retribution Return from israel will be catastrophic for lebanon. James, i will come to you in a second or two, but as we showed that statement has just started, so i want to dip in andjust see started, so i want to dip in and just see some of the early remarks, lets put the microphones up. Translation and the doctors and the , ,. and the nurses, they have worked around and the nurses, they have worked around the and the nurses, they have worked around the clock. | and the nurses, they have i worked around the clock. We have worked around the clock. We have a worked around the clock. We have a problem In Lebanon, the Best have a problem In Lebanon, the Best number of injuries, and hospitals Best number of injuries, and hospitals are not well prepared for these hospitals are not well prepared for these type of injuries, they for these type of injuries, they were under pressure, that is why they were under pressure, that is why there have been delays, but there is why there have been delays, but there is a thought that the shortage but there is a thought that the shortage was because they were under shortage was because they were under pressure, what we witnessed in the previous few days witnessed in the previous few days and witnessed in the previous few days and these days, positive treatment and a serious and big and very treatment and a serious and big and very serious caring, were very and very serious caring, were very for and very serious caring, were very for them. Thanks as well for people who give their blood in different areas, In Lebanon, even in different areas, In Lebanon, even it in different areas, In Lebanon, even it was in different areas, In Lebanon, even it was said that what happened On Tuesday, giving blood. Happened On Tuesday, giving blood. It happened On Tuesday, giving blood, it was the biggest Blood Donation blood, it was the biggest Blood Donation in the history of lebanon. Thanks for those who initiated lebanon. Thanks for those who initiated the transport of the injured initiated the transport of the injured persons, because as you witness, injured persons, because as you witness, in injured persons, because as you witness, in the streets, we reached witness, in the streets, we reached that point. So what will carry reached that point. So what will carry them on his shoulder, his car, his bike, thanks shoulder, his car, his bike, thanks for shoulder, his car, his bike, thanks for all those who were happy thanks for all those who were happy to thanks for all those who were happy to volunteer, to donate parts happy to volunteer, to donate parts of happy to volunteer, to donate parts of their pieces for those injured parts of their pieces for those injured. Greetings and thanks for all injured. Greetings and thanks for all the doctors who open their for all the doctors who open their clinics free of Charge Day their clinics free of Charge Day and their clinics free of Charge Day and night, many thanks. So we can put The Voice to him. And so we can put The Voice to him. And the so we can put The Voice to him. And the political leaders, the ministers of the parliament, parties. Ministers of the parliament, parties, political parties, the elite, parties, political parties, the elite, the parties, political parties, the elite, the social organisations, the syndicates and others. From the blessing of these, and others. From the blessing of these, the oppression which we witnessed in these days, that we witnessed in these days, that we we witnessed in these days, that we witnessed among the blessing, that what we witnessed In Lebanon recently againm witnessed In Lebanon recently again. Waiting for The Voice. Also again. Waiting for The Voice. Also among the sacrifice, we have also among the sacrifice, we have to also among the sacrifice, we have to address as well, thanks for the have to address as well, thanks for the countries who have speeded up to send medical teams speeded up to send medical teams and equipments and Medicat Teams and equipments and medical supplies, the iraqi government, the islamic republic of iran, how they send Planes Republic of iran, how they send planes to republic of iran, how they send planes to transport, they were transported yesterday, the syrian transported yesterday, the syrian government, who opened The Doors syrian government, who opened The Doors of the hospitals, and numbers The Doors of the hospitals, and numbers of the injured were transported to the syrian hospitals, also many thanks to all the hospitals, also many thanks to all the countries who have contact all the countries who have contact the lebanese government and initiated their readiness to heto and initiated their readiness to help. Also, many thanks for all those to help. Also, many thanks for all those who condemn these israeti all those who condemn these israeli crimes from the parties. Israeli crimes from the parties, governments and elites around parties, governments and elites around the world, especially those around the world, especially those who support the resistance in palestine, iraq, Syria Resistance in palestine, iraq, Syria And Resistance in palestine, iraq, syria and others. This is we start syria and others. This is we start with syria and others. This is we start with thanking, and first and last. Start with thanking, and first and last, thanking for god, attah. And last, thanking for god, attah. For and last, thanking for god, allah, for testing and helping and pushing a lot of things. Secondly, On Tuesday and wednesday, On Tuesday. Just i would wednesday, On Tuesday. Just i would like wednesday, On Tuesday. Just i would like to give you just a brief would like to give you just a brief summary, as it is well for you brief summary, as it is well for you. The Israelis Targeted Thousands of pagers, and it was Exploded Thousands of pagers, and it was exploded at the one time. The israelis exploded at the one time. The israelis exceeded all the controls and rules and redlines. They didnt care for anything redlines. They didnt care for anything at all, not ethical, not humanitarian, not legal. The not humanitarian, not legal. The explosions took place, some of them the explosions took place, some of them in the explosions took place, some of them in the hospitals, some of them in the hospitals, some of those of them in the hospitals, some of those working in hospitals. And in of those working in hospitals. And in the cars and in the street. And in the cars and in the street. In and in the cars and in the street, in the public road, where street, in the public road, where civilians and women and kids were where civilians and women and kids were present. If i was targeting the fighters of hezbollah, he was targeting the whole hezbollah, he was targeting the whole legion in the presence, and he whole legion in the presence, and he used civil tools which are used and he used civil tools which are used by wide sectors, hospitals, doctors, conventional companies and transportation companies, this is the transportation companies, this is the pagers i am referring to. Is the pagers i am referring to then is the pagers i am referring to. Then he repeated that, on wednesday, by exploding the Walkie Talkies, but he didnt irother Walkie Talkies, but he didnt bother about the place who they were bother about the place who they were holding, hospitals, pharmacies, in the street, At Home, pharmacies, in the street, At Home, it pharmacies, in the street, At Home, it could be on the table. As a home, it could be on the table. As a result home, it could be on the table. As a result of this aggression, turns as a result of this aggression, turns of as a result of this aggression, turns of martyrs, among them civilians. Turns of martyrs, among them civilians, men, women and children. Civilians, men, women and children, thousands were injured children, thousands were injured. Different type of injuries. And the numbers will appear injuries. And the numbers will appear. Waiting for. We will have appear. Waiting for. We will have the appear. Waiting for. We will have the exact number, but it is a have the exact number, but it is a vast have the exact number, but it is a vast number, it is a big number is a vast number, it is a big number. The enemy is assuming, let us number. The enemy is assuming, let us talk number. The enemy is assuming, let us talk about the intention, what happens is something else. He was targeting a group, the pager group, targeting a group, the pager group, which will talk about in details. Group, which will talk about in details, he assumed and he knows details, he assumed and he knows that the numbers exceed 4000 knows that the numbers exceed 4000 pagers, and he assumed that they 4000 pagers, and he assumed that they are distributing of the men of hezbollah. Brothers and sisters, establishments and different and sisters, establishments and different units. When he exploded the pagers, instruments, he was intending, we have instruments, he was intending, we have to instruments, he was intending, we have to talk about the intention, he was intending to kill 4000 intention, he was intending to kill 4000 individuals in one Minute Kill 4000 individuals in one minute. This is the minimum, the least, minute. This is the minimum, the least, to kill 4000 Human Beings the least, to kill 4000 Human Beings at the least, to kill 4000 Human Beings at the moment, that is in addition to what happened on wednesday, for the talkie walkie, were still talking talkie walkie, were still talking the pagers. That is in addition talking the pagers. That is in addition to those who will be killed addition to those who will be killed surrounding them. Studio killed surrounding them. Studio well, we are going to come away from that, we are going to continue to monitor what Hassan Nasrallah is saying, a Key Line as he gives his response to those pagers and Walkie Talkie blasts, saying that israel has violated Red Lines by detonating thousands of pagers, and just as we were listening to that, let me tell you, word from the Israeli Military saying that it is striking hezbollah targets In Lebanon. We saw that overnight and this morning, so a continuation of that, but also making the point that the Israeli Military is saying, their chief is saying that they have approved plans for the northern area of israel, that has come from israels military chief. Lets being injames landale, who was monitoring the early part of what we were just listening to. James, the region is close to the precipice. Yeah, so watching what Hassan Nasrallah saying very closely, so far it has been much what we expected, thanking people, the authorities, the doctors and people who gave blood and responded to what has happened in recent days, but also, as you said, referring to what he called a greater massacre, israeli crimes, saying that they had breached Red Lines, that what happened was not ethical or legal. So far, the scale of the threat and responses limited to him saying that what happened requires us to take a stand, so we wait to see exactly what he says about that and what it might mean in practice. That and what it might mean in ractice. , practice. Lets bring in bronwen practice. Lets bring in Bronwen Maddox practice. Lets bring in| Bronwen Maddox from practice. Lets bring in Bronwen Maddox from Chatham House, waiting to speak to us, She Isjust back house, waiting to speak to us, she is just back from visiting northern israel, the border areas. Welcome to the programme. 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