Sir Keir Starmer will say there is light at the end of the tunnel in the form of faster ecOnomic growth and falling nhs Waiting Lists, but hell warn there are no easy answers. Well bring you full coverage of that as it happens 2pm. The Home Secretary Yvette Cooper has addressed the cOnference in the last Hour And Lisa nandy, the secretary for culture, Media And Sport is expected to speak in about half an hour. So, dOnt anyOne tell me that was a protest. DOnt anyOne tell me that was about immigratiOn, policing or poverty. Plenty of people have strOng views On immigratiOn, crime, On the nhs and more, but they dOnt pick up breaks and throw them at the police. They dOnt set light to buildings with people inside. It was arsOn, it was racism, it was thuggery, it was a crime. Applause and you know it happened because criminals thought they could get away with it. They saw the cracks in the system, the impunity that built up system, the impunity that built up through the tory years, and when they decided to run riot those early august days, they thought no One would stop them. They were wrOng. With the leadership of Keir Starmer, this Labour Government made clear that we would back our police, not blame them. We would stand up for our courts, not undermine them. We would pull our communities together, not divide them. We stood up for the rule of law, decent people stood up for their communities, and together we put the disorder down. That was the home put the disorder down. That was the Home Secretary put the disorder down. That was the Home Secretary speaking i put the disorder down. That was the Home Secretary speaking an hour ago. The secretary for culture, Media And Sport is expected to speak in half an hour. Our political CorerspOndent Alex forsyth is in liverpool. Good morning. We are at the Labour Party COnference and we have heard from the Home Secretary so far this morning, with a real focus On law and order. But the big Ticket Item from the Programme Today is the speech by Keir Starmer in three hours time. The message we are expecting to hear from hours time. The message we are expecting to hearfrom him is that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Effectively, stick with us, its going to be tough but we have got a plan and we hope it is going to get better. That is what we are expecting to hear. I am joined by nicola smith, head of ecOnomics and employment rights at the trades uniOn cOngress. Thank you for being with us here in liverpool. What are you hoping to hear from the here in liverpool. What are you hoping to hearfrom the Prime Minister . I hoping to hear from the Prime Minister . ~ , minister . I think this AfternoOn Minister . I think this afternoOn We Minister . I think this afternoOn we are minister . I think this i afternoOn we are hoping minister . I think this afternoOn we are hoping for minister . I think this afternoOn we are hoping for the prime afternoOn we are hoping for the Prime Minister to set out his AmbitiOn Prime Minister to set out his AmbitiOn and his visiOn for the Sort AmbitiOn and his visiOn for the sort of AmbitiOn and his visiOn for the sort of ecOnomy that we can achieve sort of ecOnomy that we can achieve after 14 years of incredibly tough times for pe0ple incredibly tough times for people at work across the countrx people at work across the Country. We know that the government is ambitious for the strOng government is ambitious for the strOng approach that will deliver strOng approach that will deliver betterjobs and training and opportunities for young training and opportunities for young people, and we know that there young people, and we know that there can young people, and we know that there can be an ecOnomy where we have there can be an ecOnomy where we have decentjobs where peorrte we have decentjobs where people are treated properly at work people are treated properly at work and people are treated properly at work and where living standards are rising work and where living standards are rising again after such a tOng are rising again after such a lOng period over which they have lOng period over which they have been stand for macro stagnating and people feel no better~ stagnating and people feel no better. There is an important chance better. There is an important Chance Today to talk about what that means for peoples lives, the benefits that governments can deliver, and crucially also, can deliver, and crucially also, the can deliver, and crucially also, the Public Service improvement that investment over improvement that investment over start to mean for people across over start to mean for people across the over start to mean for people across the Country. Gn over start to mean for people across the Country. Across the Country. On that last point. Across the Country. On that last point, we across the Country. On that last point, we heard across the Country. On that last point, we heard from | across the Country. On that i last point, we heard from the chancellor, Rachel Reeves, yesterday who said there is not going to be a return to austerity, but she is also talking about difficult decisiOns that are coming up at the budget. Are you worried that there are going to be further cuts to Public Services . I further cuts to Public Services . Further cuts to Public Services . ~. further cuts to Public Services . ~. services . I think we have seen an assurance services . I think we have seen an assurance from services . I think we have seen an assurance from the an assurance from the Chancellor Yesterday that she understands the importance that realty understands the importance that really good Public Services have really good Public Services have two ensuring a strOng and growing have two ensuring a strOng and growing ecOnomy. Everybody who is trying growing ecOnomy. Everybody who is trying to growing ecOnomy. Everybody who is trying to access an Nhs Appointment knows how lOng the waiting appointment knows how lOng the Waiting Lists are. People can see what Waiting Lists are. People can see what that means for those people see what that means for those people who are out of work with health people who are out of work with Health COnditiOns that are preventing them from moving back preventing them from moving back into preventing them from moving back intojobs. AnyOne preventing them from moving back into jobs. AnyOne with a kid coming up to leaving school knows kid coming up to leaving school knows how few decent Apprenticeship And Training opportunities there are, and what opportunities there are, and what some of the challenges are in our what some of the challenges are in our schools with special educatiOnal needs provisiOn, or with educatiOnal needs provisiOn, or with accessing the good quality further with accessing the good quality further and higher EducatiOn ProvisiOn that children needs. That provisiOn that children needs. That Needs Investment and we know that Needs Investment and we know that the workforce across the public know that the workforce across the Public Sector is facing A Bil the Public Sector is facing a big Recruitment And RetentiOn challenge and we know that the government has recognised the importance of working with the public importance of working with the Public Sector to deliver those public Public Sector to deliver those Public Services that are part of where Public Services that are part of where the Country needs to et of where the Country needs to get to of where the Country needs to net to. ~. of where the Country needs to netto. ~.. get to. We have had some of the words we are get to. We have had some of the words we are expecting get to. We have had some of the words we are expecting to get to. We have had some of the words we are expecting to hear l words we are expecting to hear from Keir Starmer already, so i already mentiOned light at the end of the tunnel, the lOng Term Gain and short term pain. But does he need to be more specific about what this all means to people . Do you want to hear some policy . Do you want more meat On the bOne as opposed to just the rhetoric . As opposed to ust the rhetoric . H as opposed to ust the rhetoric . As opposed to ust the rhetoric . ~.. rhetoric . We have got some really important rhetoric . We have got some really important Policy Rhetoric . We have got some really important policy that. Really important policy that the government has made commitments to, and i think that commitments to, and i think that the commitments to, and i think that the challenge now is as we move that the challenge now is as we move towards the budget, setting move towards the budget, setting out to people how that is going setting out to people how that is going to start to impact On their is going to start to impact On their lives is going to start to impact On their Lives Day to day. When you their Lives Day to day. When you took. Their Lives Day to day. When you look, for example, at the plans you look, for example, at the plans by you look, for example, at the plans by the government to make work plans by the government to make work pay, plans by the government to make work pay, that will deliver reat work pay, that will deliver real tangible improvements for people real tangible improvements for people across the Country. If you are people across the Country. If you are On people across the Country. If you are On a 0 Hours COntract and you are On a 0 Hours COntract and going you are On a 0 Hours COntract and going day to day without any security about how many hours any security about how many hours you any security about how many hours you are going to work, about hours you are going to work, about whether your shifts are going about whether your shifts are going to about whether your shifts are going to be cancelled or whether you will be pay if your shift whether you will be pay if your shift is whether you will be pay if your shift is cancelled at short notice. Shift is cancelled at short notice, the government will legislate to stop that happening and to improve the quality happening and to improve the quality of your working life. If quality of your working life. If you quality of your working life. If you are quality of your working life. If you are On low wages and you dOnt if you are On low wages and you dOnt get if you are On low wages and you dOnt get any sick pay when you are off dOnt get any sick pay when you are off work, the government is going are off work, the government is going to are off work, the government is going to legislate to change that going to legislate to change that. Theres lots that the government has committed to that witt government has committed to that will deliver important benefits for people at work and the time benefits for people at work and the time now is to make that case the time now is to make that case and the time now is to make that case and to get On with delivering. Case and to get On with deliverinu. ~ ,... delivering. Thank you. Nicola smith, the delivering. Thank you. Nicola smith, the head delivering. Thank you. Nicola smith, the head of delivering. Thank you. Nicola | smith, the head of ecOnomics and employment rights at the tuc, looking ahead to the speech by Keir Starmer which will take place in three hours. And as that countdown cOntinues we are watching lots of people milling around behind you but what would you assess the mood to be . Is there excitement, waiting to hear the first Labour Leader as Prime Minister for many, many smugness has not been the easiest Run Up to this cOnference in terms of negative headlines. COnference in terms of negative headlines headlines. No, it has not had the smoothest headlines. No, it has not had the smoothest backdrop headlines. No, it has not had the smoothest Backdrop Withj the smoothest backdrop with stories about freebies and the pay of senior people in downing street, and then the cOntentious issue of the Winter Fuel payments. To be hOnest, head of any prior minister s speech theres always a lot of anticipatiOn and this is a significant cOnference for the Labour Party. It is their first as a party of power in 15 years. The first labour Prime Minister that will take that podium after a lOng period in oppositiOn. A lot of the people here, the activists and members and delegates, would have been beside the Labour Party through those lOng years of oppositiOn, so i do think people are looking ahead to his speech and the queues are going to start building to get a seat. As well as the tOne that he strikes, i think a lot of people are going to be looking for detail about what exactly it is this government is going to do. Thank you, alex. We will go back to alex at the Labour Party COnference a little later. In the last hour we heard from the Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper. I thought it was a Barnstorming Speech i thought it was a Barnstorming Speech from Yvette Cooper, who is a very speech from Yvette Cooper, who is a very good orator. I think she is a very good orator. I think she got is a very good orator. I think she got the flavour of what the cOnference wanted to hear, which cOnference wanted to hear, which was a message of hope at the end. Which was a message of hope at the end, change is coming, change the end, change is coming, change will begin, but sort of crafting change will begin, but sort of crafting that On what she would say is crafting that On what she would say is the crafting that On what she would say is the ruins of the cOnservative government, which has stoked DivisiOn And Hatred and fear. Has stoked DivisiOn And Hatred and fear, but the hope that has come. And fear, but the hope that has come, that has sprung out of the riots come, that has sprung out of the riots when communities came together the riots when communities came together afterwards to rebuild Community Centres and so On, and Community Centres and so On, and try Community Centres and so On, and try and Community Centres and so On, and try and clean up the streets and try and clean up the streets after those riots, so that streets after those riots, so that is streets after those riots, so that is the bit of hope that i think that is the bit of hope that i think she that is the bit of hope that i think she was sending a signal about think she was sending a signal about. Saying look what has happened after the riots, communities came together to reclaim communities came together to Reclaim The Streets and this is what Reclaim The Streets and this is what we Reclaim The Streets and this is what we are going to do. Before that, what we are going to do. Before that, she what we are going to do. Before that, she had outlined a series of ways that, she had outlined a series of ways in that, she had outlined a series of ways in which the Labour Government intends to do that. Ithought government intends to do that. I thought the most powerful bit was when she talked about the riots was when she talked about the riots and was when she talked about the riots and she said this was not riots and she said this was not about riots and she said this was not about cOncerns about immigratiOn, Policing Or Anything like that. It was arsOn, anything like that. It was arsOn, thuggery and crime. She ot arsOn, thuggery and crime. She got a arsOn, thuggery and crime. She got a huge arsOn, thuggery and crime. She got a huge respOnse from the audience got a huge respOnse from the audience in the COnference Hall and i audience in the COnference Hall and i think that was the strOngest part of the speech and it strOngest part of the speech and it really tapped in to a sense and it really tapped in to a sense out there that what those riots sense out there that what those riots were sense out there that what those riots were about was crime. Theres riots were about was crime. Theres other issues that can be discussed but most people dOnt be discussed but most people dOnt go be discussed but most people dOnt go Onto the streets and uett dOnt go Onto the streets and Pelt Police vans with bottles and bricks and so On. And bricks and so On. Lets talk about and bricks and so On. Lets talk about halving and bricks and so On. Lets talk about halving knife. And bricks and so On. Lets i talk about halving Knife Crime in a decade. Thats One of first things she said in her speech. How possible is that . We have been seeing it over the last couple of days this huge issue, particularly with zombie nice, but the pledge is there to halve Knife Crime in a decade. To halve Knife Crime in a decade decade. Look, it is a stretching decade. Look, it is a stretching target. I decade. Look, it is al stretching target. The government has not set out yet the parameters or the baseline On which the parameters or the baseline On which that is going to be measured. 50, iwould hope and expect measured. 50, iwould hope and expect that that will be set out soOn. It will require a lot of work out soOn. It will require a lot of work On out soOn. It will require a lot of work On different frOnts, and of work On different frOnts, and Yvette Cooper outlined some of that and Yvette Cooper outlined some of that work. Youth hubs, a sort of that work. Youth hubs, a sort of of that work. Youth hubs, a sort of sure start for teenagers is how she has depicted it. There will be Enforcement ActiOn On the streets Enforcement ActiOn On the streets involving the police and streets involving the police and i streets involving the police and i think some announcements have and i think some announcements have treen and i think some announcements have been made about that. As well as have been made about that. As well as cracking down On Online sates well as cracking down On Online sates of well as cracking down On Online sales of dangerous knives and so On sales of dangerous knives and so On so sales of dangerous knives and so On. So there is a series of things so On. So there is a series of things that so On. So there is a series of things that will have to be brought to bear in order to try and get brought to bear in order to try and get close to that target. I think and get close to that target. I think that will be judged On whether it is making progress towards whether it is making progress towards that target. That was |