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sundar interview, take four. a mark. b mark. sundar, let s start by talking a bit about this moment in history. in my work for the bbc over the last few years, i ve been arguing that we re living through a kind of epoch shift. technology is central to that. when you think about your career, when you think about the pandemic we ve just been through, the transformations to come, where do you think you would put us? where do you think we are as a species in the long story that is humanity? wow, it s a big question. we ll start big, and we ll get narrower as we go along. look, i ve always felt there is this constant progress which comes with technology, and it almost happens whether or not humans actually want that level of progress. i go through these thought experiments and i ask, what must it have been when the printing press was invented or during the industrial revolution? but i do think the change is accelerating, if you will.