But we also have serious progress in terms of ensuring the security of our states, and we see that an important reserve in this is, of course, crossborder interRegional Cooperation, therefore, with regard to crossborder cooperation. We decided that in the near future we need the Parliamentary Assembly to develop a model law on the development of crossborder cooperation. I think this is very important, the direction and the important decision that was made, and the pages of true history, the participants of the information and Education Forum said, belarus is one, molodechno is a startup there, and it enough of all regions, the main goal is the consolidation of patriotic forces, an open conversation on topical issues on the information agenda. The experts discussed modern processes, as well as how the strategy of the future will be lined up with the main speeches. They will become leaders, leading public associations of the country , the discussion will not be limited to a dialogue platform , the project will include exhibitions and other formats and will end with an action on september 17 on National Unity day. Indeed , belarus 1 is also becoming a brand. E our country are becoming significant events, without which the preparation and celebration of the day of National Unity is already unthinkable. The concept of the event, belarus 1 is openness. That is, any questions, questions from the floor, questions from the speaker, and which, lets say, are included in the agenda, and everything that worries people, in the regions, what worries people in our country in grodno, the construction of a bypass ring road is underway. It will connect two young neighborhoods in the south and north of alshanku and grandichi. The main work has been completed and several road interchanges have been erected. Bridge built. Builders are now across the neman. On the most critical section of the track , it was worked out with Railway Tracks and the ozersk highway to organize a complex traffic intersection. For several design solutions, work is currently underway on the installation of superstructures. E, the overpass has already completed the installation of span structures on the axes 01 1 2 2, 3 also mounted a tunnel type overpass. Now we will have to simultaneously fill this overpass, the drainage layer of sand , all these works will practically be carried out manually, the International Forum of representatives of professional Music Education in the countries of eurasia started in belarus on the form. The tendencies of the development of Music Education in the eurasian cultural space were discussed within the framework of the projects of the Belarusian State Academy of music, a concert was held, the soloist of the moscow philharmonic Ekaterina Mechetina pleased the audience with rachmaninovs compositions by the end of the second day, the form will remain a local concert of two youth ensembles of belarus russia what secrets hide the greatest shrines christianity, all the churches, all the shrines on the territory of the grand duchy of lithuania , on the territory of the private court of belarus itself. Well, i dont think that spiritually it can be a coincidence, does the name affect the character and fate of a person in a man of myagotara, he is a saint, as if he was called, but to live like this i mean, you have competition. Why does the bible call to be joyful sometimes earthly joy, bodily joy, it is so uh, sometimes it passes very quickly, and the joy that a person receives from communion with god in the church, then this joy, it somehow turns out that fills every day of his life. Why do they ring bells in churches , it is known that bells are a tradition of ringing yes, it was the form of bells that came to us more western, as it were, traditions from the catholic, because in the orthodox, as it were, execution. It was called a beater, from which plates were also beaten from the same departure material, but they were beaten with answers to these and other questions in spiritual and educational projects on the belarus 24 tv channel. Call gods wolf out of spite into the lake tore off the devil with his rips and the cell injects the wolf into the maya lake, the shape of the correct circle does not change for a stretch of debts, there are chances on the far side that the wok sotsit for with the right people from heaven and shmat them such zhany chandeliers in belarus hello hello to all who are now with us today our studios are the most interesting interlocutors experienced diplomat. Now deputy head of the International Affairs commission andrei svinykh, as well as political scientist alexei germant. Also today, a russian Intelligence Officer will be in touch with us. In past. Today we are mgimo professor Andrey Bezrukov, in a word, a great opportunity to talk about events and meanings, but lets start with what we are here that the program is not everything, and peaceful ways for ukraine were discussed at the last brix summit. Only now, it seems like in the movies they are setting up for a long war. Listen themselves. Israel. Forgiveness, guilt, we are ready for people. Oh, so you can bots, but to minimize the victims. Yak hid the house of israel. I said. You can also do it to russia. Well, the great ryzy is what exactly behind the horses. Well, look at this it would seem a small fragment. And how much the man said, no negotiations for you and tune in to a long war , and it sounded like that. Should the war go to the territory of russia in general , you and i understand that such interviews are usually not spontaneous, and something tells me that in this particular case there was no spontaneity, in general, what are the ukrainian population of ukrainian viewers ready for in this case Andrey Vladimirovich zelensky. Well, first of all, one important point must be taken into account, uh, the ukrainian leadership does not make any decisions, it is completely under the control of external control centers , these external centers need a war in order to exhaust russia in order to ideally bring it to what well, a difficult period of economic political whatever uh, well, lets not forget that uh russia is not the direction of the main blow, the main conflict of the 21st century, it is still a conflict with china, uh, but another issue that i think is wishful thinking. Uh, the war wont last long after all, and here you need to understand one more simply important point, the current leadership , realizing that ukraine wont have victory, its just playing for time in order to get additional income and solve some of its own questions, but clearly they are not interested in regulating the situation, not in securing a future for the ukrainian people. And this is really a tragedy ivanovich. Well, it seems to me that we will really say the conditions for maintaining power for zelensky. So the team is the continuation of this war, because you give us a different mode. Yes, questions will arise. Still , the proefficiency of the management of the same army about how ukraine became dependent and lost its sovereignty, these questions will be asked, like e. Mothers. The dead will also be asked questions. And why were these meat assaults . Yes, which ended in nothing and so on. Its accumulated effect. This one will sooner or later affect specifically zelensky and, in principle , all the power configuration that exists there, but as long as they are in a zombie state, that is, when they are led by external players, lets say, this can go on for quite a long time. But we all know that sooner or later these zombies run out of any er, powers. Yes, and we see that this moment is already approaching, because , well, obviously not enough. Not only weapons. But in fact, some kind of moral and fighting spirit hmm, therefore, uh, they want to stretch as long as possible. This is a pleasure in quotation marks, especially western states that do business on this, but this will not last long and russia will have to think about a different format of interaction, too. Well, we already understood that zelensky is the president of the war, there are no doubts. Remains, and there is an implementer. Ukraine well, people are not for this, there are politicians of power who are able to offer and, most importantly, implement it in another alternative. Lets say. So a certain peaceful option or option. Even this war with an opportunity to escape the collapse that is still looming on the horizon of ukraine. I think that these forces are, of course, there, but deep inside. Yes , because now they are under the pressure of terror, it is difficult for them to declare any position, even if it is neutral. Yes, at least hmm not to mention there to take into account the interests of neighbors in belarus, russia, but everything can change, because today ukraine is not so independent as to completely clean up the entire field. Yes, we all understand that politicians of various kinds can come to the west as well. Yes who will say, well, thats enough, probably, thats such a rabid war. Lets listen to these, that is, maybe such a lord , of course, a small comment. We still have to give ourselves to the fathers, in the essence of the ukrainian government. That is, it is a totalitarian system that completely destroyed everyone. It is clear to the opponents that 80 of the population of ukraine may not support this course, but the interests of the people and e are realized only if there is an organizational tool political party, leader like this parties and leaders in ukraine are simply eliminated. And so it is impossible to wait for any change. Remember the uh of germany there was an antiantihitler underground, but Political Parties began to form the organization of society only after the red army came there. I think it will be the same here, depending on, lets say , partners are perfectly created from zelensky, but knows how to play this role, it seems ready from the game to the end in the same interview with which we started today, he corrects himself and says that they say victory is victory, over russia will not be ours, but our partners, who are given to us with an eyebrow. That is, until the end. Still, it does justice to the fact that without them there are two moments. Eh, alekseevich correctly said the point is that ukraine can no longer resist. Well, really, that is, it survives solely on the financial and military support of western countries, if suddenly for some reason this support would stop. Uh, the war would be over within a week at the most. Well lets then partners and talk everything you need to know about high relations between kiev and the washingtons peculiarly admonished zelensky american guests you must win so that we do not lose a group of senators arrived in kiev to personally congratulate zelensky on a holiday that hardly has anything to do with todays ukraine independence day, senator Lindsey Graham judging by the tone, he actually ordered another to vladimir hold elections in 2024. And she declared the need for victories to the all, at the front further. I will read slowly. And you think about it so grahams words you must win a war we cant afford lose to yourself. That is, it turns out that thousands of ukrainian guys die for the sake of their uncles victory. Sam, we are his senator now grim, yes, what, what were you talking about, that is, they will not let him, lets say, get out of the game, yes, but i would be here. I would have repeated this wording once again just six months ago. This was categorically denied, but in reality the conflict in ukraine is not a conflict between russia and ukraine, it is a conflict between the National State of russia and the owners of transnational ones. Uh, financial corporations here, look what shes like you know financial oligarchy, yes, which controls the e state apparatuses of the us uk eu and leads. War and this is a very important point and look how interesting they are now turning. Closer to the elections, everyone is coming closer to the ukrainian elections, including senator graham says that it is impossible to cancel the choice not for the elections, and in the same interview that we already talked about today, he makes it clear so very cunningly in his usual manner that i will not hand over the money allocated for weapons in order to spend them on elections. That is, he understands that the chair is rocking very seriously. Naturally, even more so , he can earn money on weapons for his colleagues and from that very financial oligarch. Its profitable, to be honest, it pushes him to the polls then. But still, it seems to me that there is a certain desire among the western elites to build a framework for zelensky. We see that he periodically breaks down and begins to blame their claims to present a malmore. Small weapon, little money, here, and here it is, well, in general, hard formatting, if they have accepted. Green perform ritual actions under the guise of elections, then they must be performed and , accordingly, the conditions must be met in order to receive the next portion, money , a weapon, that is, it is kept in control mode. And naturally. Uh, the elite in kiev would like under the guise of war. Uh, the introduction of martial law, cancel any elections even more to toughen that totalitarian regime. Yes , so that there werent any at all, but opportunities to somehow move this power. They stayed there, if not forever, then for as long as they were supposed to be there by fate, so this is a struggle, including number for management. Yes, so that they are more obedient ukrainian politicians, specifically zelensky, but also so that american senators are representatives of the oligarchs. Still, they were confident in the correct investment of their money. Me here i completely agree with this assessment. Here i would simply add one such aspect , the thing is that they are western. The elites, they are used to the show, they have long ago turned the election process. Eh, there is definitely a show of beautiful even a term. Strictly speaking , western researchers of the country. After democracy, there is already emasculated democratic processes and replaced by certain so to speak, ritual ritual is a very good word. Alexei said the same here. Ah, the ukrainian government. Says why we will be hypocritical . Lets cancel elections , so to speak, this is a more radical position. And they say no, lets do it beautifully. Lets just falsify them , but you mean that there are no free , honest elections that could move this government at least one iota, neither in the first nor in the second case, rotation instead of zelensky according to become, except for zaluzhny or budanov, this will be three steps of the father. Uh, again in washington, uh, again, clearly not in a democratic way, but for reasons of expediency, if zelensky works out effectively enough the tasks that come from there, he will replace him. Well, from the fact that for us an important signal is the mood, at least this autotraining for the ukrainian population, which was voiced by zelensky, and in a long war, this signal for us that we should not reduce the degree of our combat readiness is one of the factors of our security. Well, probably along with the fact that we have Tactical Nuclear weapons. These, of course, are those joint actions that are being taken on our military together with the dude, and but we saw that after the death of prigozhin, there was a lot of speculation about the fate of the wagnerites on our territory and Alexander Lukashenko dotted everything and in this matter i propose listen, then we will discuss this topic, too , wagner lived and wagner will live in belarus , no matter how much someone would like it, we lined up with prigogine and everyone. How will it be we are located wagner and these are the pictures from space that we are dismantling something . Why do we remove the extra tents, so many of these tents are not needed. So much is not needed here remains the core. Uh, someone left. Here on vacation. Uh, someone uh, in general, decided to live on the sidelines, but the phone numbers of the address are paroles in this headquarters. In this core are known for a few days, everyone will be here up to 10,000 people. Now there is no need to keep them there, nowhere they bake as much as we need and this unit i will not live here and work. Ah, aleksey valentin i have this question. Hmm and who is Alexander Lukashenko primarily for . Thats all. Eh, he says. In your opinion, to whom are these words addressed, but it seems to me that there is also an internal recipient of this information, both externally and internally. Probably, if we are talking about the union space, there are also many questions in russia about what will happen to wagner after the tragic death of the leadership. And, of course, they are closely following the fate of these people in our western direction in poland, especially yes, for them its easy existential factor. I watch as a result of the elections. It seems to me that it even depends on where to move to wagner there, to which part of belarus, of course, this is also manipulation. They sell fear. They sell threats to their population. Yes, and on this they are trying to raise the rating of the ruling party. And by the way, it turns out, yes, because they know how to intimidate after all. Here, well, in fact , the president , as always, in such a not manner dot all the points, that is, these people will help our army. They will perform certain tasks that we will be necessary, but naturally, we are not planning aggressive actions, but we see very well what is happening there and therefore , uh, such a formation, as one of the tools, is far from superfluous, especially in the conditions of these hybrid conflicts, when it is not clear who can penetrate territory, when the state disavows itself from some, say, military formations very often and we see this happening all over the world. Therefore, i think that these people will be useful for us, some of them will really work with us. Well, part is already to your desire. Uh, there are different contracts in there , including in africa, but if necessary, we heard, they can be collected. We are very fast. Yes, i absolutely agree with this approach. And here i just highlighted the main point. Why the death of the leader wagner will not affect the effectiveness of the organization , the thing is that, like any institution of the pmc , it is organized in such a way that one person, escaping and disappearing, does not break the entire Organizational Team structure. This is always thought out, always done, and