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The next number of years. Joining me from washington, damian paletta, a White House Reporter for the Washington Post. Margaret talev, a Senior Analyst for bloomberg and cnn. With me in new york is dan senor. A former advisor to paul ryan and mitt romney. Im pleased to have all of them here to talk about this. Tell me what happened. It was a huge meeting for the president. He had a really rough first seven or eight months. Now he goes into september where there were a lot of chips stacked against him. He had to reach a deal to fund the government, avoid a shutdown, get money for the recovery of hurricane harvey, and convince lawmakers to extend the debt ceiling. This is a debt ceiling he repeatedly, before he was president , said should not be raised. He goes into this meeting with Republican Leaders and democratic leaders. He walks out cutting a deal with nancy pelosi and Chuck Schumer. Not only do they agree to extend the debt ceiling into early december and fund the government until then, but he makes a gentlemans agreement with Chuck Schumer to consider forever getting rid of the debt ceiling votes that have plagued Congress Since the 1990s. It would remove the requirements every year or two where congress agreed to raise the borrowing limit. It is something a lot have said needs to be there to prevent the government from spending too much money and here he is talking with Chuck Schumer about potentially getting rid of the debt ceiling forever. Charlie margaret, what would you add . Margaret President Trump is not an establishment republican. This might have been a gesture of bipartisanship. It might have been an elbow to the two republicans he is the most frustrated with, Mitch Mcconnell and paul ryan. It may be testing the waters for internal republican politics to see if either of them could stop him. There is a lot more here to unpack. I think it is going to take at least until december to get a better sense of what is going on. Charlie there you go. There is a sense of growing tension between the president and Republican Leadership. Yeah. One thing we knew from the election is candidate trump ran against both parties. We tend to think about him as a republican. He was for repealing obamacare but he was completely against republican plans to reform medicare. He talked tough about extreme vetting of muslims and going after muslim terrorists, but he was critical of republican foreignpolicy over the last couple of decades. There was this third wave message to his campaign. I think this reflects, which is not a real independent thirdway governing strategy, it is situational governing. It is in the moment. Its like, i cut a deal with this one, i cant get Health Care Reform passed, we will cut a deal with the democrats. It is not clear what he is getting beyond a few good news cycles. I do not think this helps President Trump in the long run. He did not get anything for it. It is very damaging to elected republican officials. Charlie what do republican officials want him to do . They wanted him to force the democrats, to use the leverage they had, to vote for an extension of the debt ceiling that went past the next election, went past november of 2018. Instead, by doing the shortterm debt ceiling extension, that means on the eve of the midterm elections when the republicans will be fighting for their lives we will go through all of this again. Democrats are giddy. One democrat official i spoke to today started talking about getting all sorts of funding. Dacarelated funding, parts of obamacare enshrined, talking about we are going to use all our leverage on the eve of the election because republicans will be terrified of the government shutting down as they are heading into midterms. The closer you get to the midterms and you have this sort of showdown, the worse it is for republicans which is why Republican Leaders wanted to get past november of 2018. Charlie what are they think about daca and what happened . Same thing. Jeff sessions gave this strong statement about daca. And then the president seemed to be walking it back a little bit. If congress cannot deal with it, i will. Apparently today, nancy pelosi called the president and he put out a tweet saying no one will get hurt who is affected by daca in the next six months even though the Justice Department memo contradicts that. Thats what i mean, it does not seem like grand strategy. This is all situational shorttermism. Charlie can you imagine the president is calling up, responding to a call from the former speaker of the house, nancy pelosi . I was alarmed by that. I could not believe it happened. If you watch what has happened over the past few weeks, he has been playing political footsie with democrats. He went to missouri and gave the speech about tax reform. He pulled his punches on Claire Mccaskill saying he hopes he can work with her on tax reform. Nancy pelosi . I was alarmed by that. I could not believe it happened. If you watch what has happened over the past few weeks, he has been playing political footsie with democrats. He went to missouri and gave the speech about tax reform. He pulled his punches on Claire Mccaskill saying he hopes he can work with her on tax reform. She put out a positive statement about it. He goes to north dakota and gives a speech about tax reform and brings the democrat senator up on the stage with him and says nice things about her. She is up for reelection. Senator joe manchin has had nice things to say about tax reform. Maybe there is a message or maybe he is careening from one impulsive decision to the next. It is hard to tell. If he wants a legacy issue, if he wants a legacy vote, these tax cuts are his best chance. By playing these games with democrats, trying to bring some of them in, maybe he is opening himself up for a deal in a few months. Charlie could that be possible, margaret . I think what the president was doing was trading a tactical gain now for a strategic question mark later. Talking to republicans today trying to make lemonade out of what the president left for them yesterday, they say number one, the ability to pass this quickly is good to get todays vote done. The spending bill pushed forward. The debt ceiling vote could be dragged into next year. It makes things more complicated down the line. I dont think chuck and nancy as President Trump is calling them this week Charlie Chuck and nancy, his best friends. I dont think they have it made were there is any trust at all. But i think they are thinking now we have a wedge we did not have a few days ago. Theyve been flummoxed by their own leadership vacuum and difficulty of trying to govern as a minority in both chambers. Now they think they have found some kind of window. Republicans i talked to think it is not as bad as yesterday. Maybe thats just spin. Its definitely more complicated. The real question is, is this the prelude to a fight against the existing Leadership Structure from a president who ran against the establishment or is it just trying to get from one week to the next, a clear path to the next vote, without repercussions for the stock market . I agree with margaret. I dont think this jeopardizes tax reform. I think republicans can still get tax reform passed early next year. If they do, that may eclipse all the angst around this deal and republicans could head into the midterms in a strong position having passed tax reform on the one hand. On the other hand, if we have another showdown over the debt ceiling and conservatives put all sorts of demands that are untenable for the Republican Leadership to work out with the democratic leadership, there is a messy this goal cliff situation. It will hurt republican chances in the midterms. If the republicans come back to congress in january of 2019 in a minority position, it is bad news for donald trump. As much as the president is buddybuddy with nancy and chuck, nancy and chuck with subpoena power, and the majority in the house looking to breathe down the throat of this administration, they will have a lot more capacity to do that than they do now. Charlie i spoke to steve bannon for a 60 minutes piece this weekend. And he told me, and we knew a little bit about this. He told me conservative groups, including the leader of the freedom caucus, are beating a path to his door and sitting and talking with him about how they can find some common ground. It is against the leadership. It is against the leadership. Yes. However, there was reporting in the Washington Post today about how people are talking about who could be a challenger to speaker ryan if there were to be a revolt. The two names the post managed to come up with were Rick Santorum and newt gingrich. Ok . These are two individuals who have not served in congress for over a decade. The idea that no names could surface from inside the conference highly unlikely. Charlie a former senator and a former speaker. The Republican Leadership in the house has a lot of problems. But the goodwill and close relations speaker ryan has with most of the caucuses gives him a lot of running room. The fact he never really hunted for this job, never really wanted this job, he said im happy to just be chairman of the ways and means committee. The fact he really does not want it gives him a lot of running room. I think we are in a challenging environment. Your interview with steve bannon will reveal the revolt brewing. I think this deal they reached yesterday is problematic. I dont think it results in some sort of coup because i do not think there is anyone to step in. Charlie who is more likely to win the house in 2018 . I think republicans are more likely to win, but they will probably lose seats. The majority will probably be more narrow. You could get a wave election and a lot can change. We will see what happens with the mueller investigation. We will see what happens with the fiscal cliff situation. Things can change dramatically. Right now, i say republicans hang on. Charlie what is happening with tax reform . Damian there will be a hearing next week in the senate. We are hearing a lot of happy talk out of the white house and republican negotiators on this. I think they are making progress. Obviously, they are far apart. We heard speaker ryan say this morning he envisions the Corporate Tax rate in the mid20s where President Trump has said he wants it down to 15 . Right now, it is 35 . That is a big difference. I guess you could say President Trump is maybe trying to do a real estate deal and overshooting in his first offer so we can come back to a place where members can agree. There are a lot of tricky parts of tax reform. If you just cut tax rates, it creates a huge hole in the deficit and debt. It is hard to find tax breaks you can eliminate to pay for those because every tax break has some industry in washington that will zealously protect it. They have not gotten to that part yet. They have not found a way to claw back the trillions of dollars they plan on cutting. When they make progress on that and get republicans, if they can go into the midterms telling voters they got a big tax cut they can deliver, that could energize a lot of votes. Charlie margaret, when you look at this president how he is doing, here he is a man with an Approval Rating in the 30s at war with some of his republican colleagues. Conflict within his staff. A huge challenge from north korea. What do we expect in the fall . Look, this is not an easy situation. It is a situation he has managed to govern from so far because within that base his support is still strong and because republicans control both. Chambers of congress. Chambers of congress. The president is playing with fire to the extent if he really wants a leadership by in his own party, the only way it works for him is if he retains control of both chambers of congress. North korea is a very difficult situation. It is a unifying situation in that both sides of the aisle want to calm things down and move prudently. The president has a lot of challenges overseas and at home. He is trying to thread a tricky needle to do the change he campaigned on without alienating that magic mix of the people he needs to protect him politically. Charlie thank you so much. Good to see you. We will be back in a moment. Stay with us. Charlie Jake Gyllenhaal is here. The Academy Award nominated actor is known for his range and versatility in theater and film. His movies include Brokeback Mountain and nightcrawler. His new movie is called stronger. It tells the story of the man who lost both legs in the Boston Marathon bombing. Here is a look at the trailer. Listen up. This young lady is running the marathon for womens hospital. Donate to a good cause. [applause] im going to be there at the finish line. Im going to make a big sign for you. Doesnt show up for anything. And then he shows up. There was an explosion. Your legs are gone, bro. [grunting] i cant do this. I cant do it. You have three appointments. You just have to show up. I showed up for you you remind me of my son. He died. Helping you made me feel like i helped my son. And for that, i am grateful. Youre grateful . Through the perilous fight we showed the world they cannot break us no matter what they do. In the hospital, i wanted to give up. We will rise up boston strong. And now . I just want to live. Rise up i want people to see how amazing life is. Im going to walk with you again someday. Charlie in addition to starring in the film, he also produced it through his new company. Nine stories productions. Jake is a friend of this program and i am always pleased to see him. Welcome. Tell me about how this came about. Jake it has been a long, circuitous journey. It first came to me as an actor. It was an adaptation of a book written by jeff bauman, who i play in the movie. He wrote a book very quickly after the event of his recovery. It was made into a script by a wonderful producer named todd lieberman. He gave it to me as an actor. As these journeys go, the making of the movie was a difficult one, and getting financing. We joined forces with his company and my company. I brought it to the people who financed my company, and the movie came into being. Charlie what is it about . Jake you know, i think it is about moving through the unfathomable. Getting through to a place that seemed like you could never get to, that you would never that thing i was always taught when i went to church or temple, because i was raised in both ways, that narrow passageway. That passage that is so narrow you dont know if you will ever get through it, but somehow you get into what you can say is the Promised Land in one way or another. That is what jeff has done with his life, and that is what the movie is about. Charlie how was he able to do it . Jake i think it was a number of communities. The community of boston, the city of boston. The most important, his girlfriend and wife. They have now split up. His partner who is the mother of his daughter and one of the great loves of his life. And the two of them together, she was running in the marathon and he was there. They had broken up. And he was there to try to get back together with her. He made the sign and was standing there at the finish line. Charlie she looks back. And bam. Jake she was in reality a bit further away from the finish line. She never finished the race that year. When we were filming in boston at the time, we were filming during marathon again. Erin finished the marathon, and jeff met her there for the first time she finished the marathon. That was a beautiful moment. It is really her and him, the story of the two of them and how they got through it. Charlie are they together now . Jake they are not. They have a daughter they are raising her together. Charlie they were married and divorced. Jake they have a beautiful daughter, nora. They are with each other all the time. Jeff has been, as he will say in his own words, 13 months sober to this day. He has been through a lot of things, jeff, a lot. It was not just the event. A lot of people see or hear about the story and think about the event. We tend to move towards that. When in truth, it is really everything that happens after that, but i think we tend to focus on the people who have done this horrific crime and the moment itself. And not very often do we stay with the people who are the survivors who get through it. And jeffs story is incredible. Charlie when i saw it, you know what it reminded me of . It made me think about this happened at the Boston Marathon. There were people like jeff at that event. They had to recover. We know some of the stories. Other stories we dont know. American men and women in the Armed Services in iraq and afghanistan are facing this kind of thing all the time. All the time. Jake yes. Charlie ongoing. The longest war in one case. Jake yes. I think also what i realized through this film, and i dont know if it is necessarily it is a larger group than even that. What this inspires, with the story seems to inspire is every Single Person story of struggle. I think particularly for this country now, the idea of being able to move through into a space of hope is what jeff gives us. I think all of those men and women in the military who have either served or been injured or are getting through, they are a constant inspiration in the same way. I think it is bigger than that. It is all of us. Every person has a story, a story of struggle. Jeff somehow gives them hope. Charlie it is not just recovering from losing your legs. Whether it is an addiction or whether it is failure in life. Jake when this trailer came out, i went down this strange rabbit hole. I love this movie so much. It came out and there are these funny things where people watch the trailer and videotape themselves watching trailers now. You can look on youtube. You can go down a legitimate rabbit hole. I went down it one night. The stories that came from people watching at the end of this trailer, they were not just stories of people who have suffered unspeakable things like jeff did but people who said my mother suffered from m. S. When i see the thing that says strength defines us, that makes me think that is what we think every day. Or you know, people who say, my father has parkinsons. I think that is what jeff says. If i am ok, you can be ok, too. Charlie did you spend a lot of time with him . Jake tons of time. Six to eight months before we started shooting. When we started shooting, he was not as much there. That was an interesting process. We texted every day and talked on the phone but he did not come to the set as often. He came one day when we were shooting at td garden for the bruins game. All of the questions i had to ask you were asked before and did we texted. Now we are very good friends. We talk every day. Charlie a quick technical question, how do you shoot a man without legs . Jake that is another community. The irony of a community that in reality brought jeff through these things is in the fictional world a community of people working together to make this look real. And we have in certain circumstances, we have holes in the floor. We have amazing prosthetic makeup artists who took molds of my legs and synthetically removed the ends of them. I wear a kind of biking shorts they rested on top of. Sometimes i would tuck my knees under the wheelchair and wear green socks so they could remove them. Sometimes i was sitting with my legs straight out with green socks on it, talking. There are so many different ways. It is a mixture of things in camera and visual effects. Charlie did you feel stronger because you witnessed this mans experience . Jake i will never be the same after making this movie. This movie has changed me in ways i cannot really even put into words. There is not a moment when i feel what i would consider physical pain that i do not think about jeff. And i think charlie he speaks to you at that moment . Jake every moment. Stupid things like you stub your toe and make a noise, and you think, come on, man. [laughter] charlie it reminds you how you have no reason to complain. Jake not ever. I am of the opinion that pain is relative, i really am. But jeff made me rethink that in a lot of ways. Charlie is this Production Company something you will put in high gear . Jake oh, yeah, we are in high gear. We have a lot of projects in development in movies, television, and on stage. I have an incredible producing partner who is a fierce woman an incredible partner. We are full steam ahead. Charlie have you ever made a movie with your sister . Jake we did a little. She played a part in donnie darko as a favor. We have not worked together since then. Charlie would you like to . Jake i would love to. She is pretty good. I would love to be on stage with her. Charlie even better. Jake i would love to be on stage with her because i think it would mean we would be home if we did it in new york. Jake i would love to be on stage with her because i think it would mean we would be home if we did it in new york. I know the organisms we are and how we love to bring our relationship nightly onto the stage and work it out. Charlie the relationship . Jake we are brother and sister. It is complicated. Charlie are you competitive or are you so loving jake we have been doing it for a long time. Charlie being brother and sister . Jake not that long, thats a new venture. The acting part we have been doing a long time. Charlie you are in the same game. Jake yeah, i think we have been competitive in the past. I think maturity has brought us to a place where it seems absurd. None of that really matters. I think we are at a place now with her having two children that our family is the most important thing to us. But i think we have, like any brother and sister, a deep, deep love. I had dinner with her last night in the midst of her press whirlwind for her show she is doing. I dont think ive had a better dinner in maybe a decade than i had with my sister last night. Charlie why . Jake because i dont believe either of us i wont say im not afraid of the truth but we can talk honestly about each other, about everything. Charlie thats a great feeling. Jake its an amazing feeling. Charlie how do you feel about acting . [laughter] charlie ill tell you why, one of my favorite newspapers, the guardian, you say to them, how hard can acting be, but the behavior of human character is a craft to be discovered and experimented with. My favorite actors are like artists. Jake wow. Are you sure i said that . Thats a great quote. I tend to wax. Ang lee once said something i will never forget. He said, we pretend so we can get closer to the truth. Which is just kind of this profound contradiction. I believe in the craft of what i do as a very serious thing. A lot of people think of it as a bit absurd. I also think it is a bit absurd because it is playful and it has a real sense an opportunity for real play, where your imagination can just be released into neverending choices, but i really, truly believe in the craft. There are so many actors that i admire who have mastered the craft or are on their way to mastering the craft, and i believe it is a lifelong journey. How i feel about it, it changes all the time. Charlie i am sitting 25 years and ive talked to almost everyone. And there are certain actors that you now have this sense of they do not talk about it as much but it is that deep appreciation of the craft of it all. And, in that appreciation they may go off and want to produce and direct and do a lot of things. But at the core is the acting of it. They certainly what to do the other things because it gives them control and they like to be able to craft and sculpt and edit, all of those things im sure you feel. But at the core, they are an actor. Jake it is funny you say that. Ive never really truly thought of myself as one. Maybe being a younger sibling, i have always thought of my sibling as that. I owe credit to her for my career because i dont think i would have acted if not for watching her. When she was 10 and i was six and she was up on the stage. But one place i can tell you is where i am pretty sure i am an actor is when i get up on the stage. That is when i think, i am terrified, but im having too much fun for it not to be something i want to be my lifes work. Charlie what is the fun of it . Jake it is a demand on your mind. There are so many aspects of it. I just did a musical on broadway this past winter, and i found a lot more comfort doing singing and having an orchestra onstage with me every night than i did being alone on stage as an actor without any music. You are never really alone when you have the orchestra with you up there. I think the thrill of it is just this the actors i love are people who take genuine risks and who fail. Those are the ones i love. I think being on stage, you feel that opportunity for failure and success every single night in a way you cant feel anywhere else. I think that thrill for me, along with the rehearsal process, the amount of preparation preparation is the most fun for me. You are alone. You get to do it alone before anythingts to say about it. Charlie it is the whole thing for preparing for an interview, isnt it . The whole process of bringing it together and fashioning it, that is not work, so to speak. That is the challenge of equally and perhaps more fun when you sit down and see whether you can make something out of what you have imagined as possible. It is a twoway street. Jake i find when i speak to you the same thing you feel when youre working with somebody who is like a master at their craft. There is an exchange where you only make people better. Right . So, sometimes people probably cower in here. [laughter] jake not to say that theres not a part of me that feel that way, too. You feel an exchange of energy and the ideas start to bubble up and you start to connect to that and somewhere else, and that is a joy. That is the joy of it, is the exchange of feeling and ideas. When youre doing it in a moment where youre not really quite sure, i think the thrill there is unlike any other. It is where i think i want to be. Most of the time i think, im an actor, its kind of crazy. Really . Charlie great to have you here. Jake lovely to be here. Charlie much success with this. 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The ninetime grammy Award Winning artist to has sold 35 million records over her career. Her hit songs include all i want to do, soak up the sun, and her new album is called be myself. Rolling stone calls it her toughest and best in a decade. Here is a look at the single halfway there featuring al goodfriend friend, mr. Gary clark junior. Lets just agree our good friend, mr. Gary clark junior. Lets just agree to disagree we on the rest baby, if you care if you really care wont you meet me halfway there . Baby if you care meet me halfway there baby if you care wont you meet you halfway there . Yeah. Charlie do you know how long its been since you are here at this table . Guest 20 years, oh my goodness. I cant believe that. I remember telling you this was my favorite talk show. I love it. You always keep it real and interesting. Charlie there was a sense in terms of be myself of a woman who is she is looking forward is also looking back. Sheryl thats exactly right. Many times on stage i have talked about every day is a winding road, which was out 23 years ago, a younger person looking at the road ahead. Theres a lot of looking back at the road ive traveled on this record. Charlie to the extent of listening to all of the great songs that you have written and performed. Sheryl i revisited some of it because i wanted to remember the spirit of some of the early stuff and how we got to that place that felt liberated. I really feel like this record is a celebration of liberation from being in the world of competitive radio commerciality. There is something great about being my age. Charlie i agree with that. Sheryl theres some things that arent great about being my age. [laughter] charlie i agree with that, too. Very much. But there is something. If you can appreciate it and you have the life that allows you to enjoy it. Sheryl ive had some real low moments, and all those in some ways have carved out the space for the joyful moments. I think all that stuff was freely talking about it on this record. Charlie when Rolling Stone says the toughest and best in a decade, what do you think they mean . Sheryl it is hard to know. Somebody heard it and that was their interpretation but i do think there is a toughness about it and the fact that it is a return to the way i used to make records. Which was just a couple of us in a room, some drum grooves, me on bass and jeff and i with the musicals. For years, cowriters with him on the guitar. Just getting to the heart of it. Theres not a lot of dressing in this record. It is very inyourface. We really i think tackled a lot of big themes. Charlie like what . Sheryl i am raising two little boys. This period of our evolution as humans on this planet, there are so many things that are infiltrating our little peoples minds and informing them about who they are. When you consider that the internet is just as dangerous place you have to try to protect them from, cell phones, and social media are constantly telling them what is likeable and awesome. It is just the wild west. For me as an artist, i get to sit back and talk about what that is to me, what that feels like as a parent and as an american, particularly during this election. A lot of what happened in the election informed what is on the record. Charlie talk about that. Sheryl halfway there, the first song we put out, really addressed the loss of civility in our dialogue. It really begs the question, is there no way to agree to disagree . It kind of started out as a i am a citizen of nashville, where there is this growing liberal community that is now living alongside a very wellestablished conservative community and yet there are certain things in nashville that we all come together in agreement on. Fund raising for charities, taking care of people who need help. There are just certain things that there are no parties. It is very nonpartisan. There are lots of things people disagree with in nashville, but it hasnt reached the kind of vitriolic dialogue that i saw during the Political Campaign that has become the norm. That is just really charlie it is what the country needs. Sheryl i feel like it. I am just one person. I get the opportunity to put pen to a pad and role tape and sing it. Charlie did you have a sense of urgency making this . Sheryl i had a real sense of urgency and i dont know if i have ever gone into making record where i felt like i couldnt write it fast enough. I would Start Playing and verses would come out in full chunks. In 25 or 30 years of writing, that has never been the norm, but there is a lot going on. You know . And, what a great opportunity to be an artist and be able to try to give voice to what so many people around me my age were discussing. And there is a liberation. Charlie how do you and jeff write . Sheryl our first record was the byproduct of him having a teenage boy and me having a preteenage boy and discussing how difficult it is now with and kids cell phones, kind of formulating their selfworth by what they read on texts from other kids and this kind of loss of empathy where you can say anything you want and not have an immediate reaction. The song kind of says, i am ok with being in the dark, as in not on social media. A lot of it just began from conversations. Charlie just conversations, the the two of you sitting. Sheryl saying, this is what happened. Can you imagine how hard it is being a teenager growing up with that added pressure . Charlie your new album has a lot of duets. Sheryl . i do. Kris kristofferson, even something was johnny cash, song he recorded three months before he passed. His family has lovingly allowed me to take the demo for that and record our version of it. Weve got Keith Richards and don henley, one of my first employers, and stevie nicks. Charlie how do you do that . Do you simply go into a Recording Studio with their voice . Sheryl it depends. I called keith and asked him if he could record. He came to new york and we hung out for a couple of days. With don, i emailed and said he was a huge influence on my life and asked if he could do that. It would mean more to me than anything. Same with stevie. There are certain people i feel like have made such a huge impression on my life. Charlie you moved to nashville because of kids or career . Sheryl i was diagnosed with breast cancer, and my personal life was kind of falling apart. My family was in nashville and near nashville, and i thought it is time to put down roots, and i did. Soon thereafter, wyatt came along, and then i just found that it was home. Charlie how are you today . Sheryl i am great. I have two scrumptious boys and a Great Network of friends. It is just, you know charlie you have said somewhere that you are happy in the dark. Sheryl i do love not having a relationship with my cell phone. I am one of the few people that i can say that has gone through the process of weaning myself off of it. I dont love having to use my personal life as the byproduct of promotion. I do a little bit of it as far as social media is concerned, things that i am interested in, but i would prefer my kids have memories of me not always on my phone. Charlie and memories of you having conversations with them. Sheryl i dont want to miss out. Charlie and experiencing things with them and seeing things with them for the first time in their lives. Sheryl we were in florida recently, and it was a full moon and it was 9 00 and we were out hunting crabs and i grabbed them and said, look around. Youve got to remmber this. The full moon, the ocean. I dont want to miss it. Charlie what would you change about your life today . Sheryl i dont think i would really change anything. Charlie pretty much have got it where you want it. Sheryl obviously theres lots of things i would change as far as the environment is concerned, but i feel like i am more awake than i have ever been and more connected to my roots. I dont know i would spend the time to try and change it. There are many things i would love to change with regards to the Music Industry and arts in general. I would love to encourage Young Artists coming up who have the massive fan bases they have to remember the power of their words and to remember that music still does hold the power to change molecules. It is a rare opportunity to have so many people wanting you to express how they feel. Theres a lot of opportunity there to write about something. Charlie as you look back you have called this a grownup record. Sheryl like i said, i really felt like in the last 10 years that writing has been a thing of joy for me, and not connected to commerciality or radio at all. What is happening at radio predominantly is geared towards the demographic of the 13 to 26yearolds. It is liberating to not have to try to write for that age group. I think the things i am loving and hating right now are probably more for people my age. Charlie things that youre loving and things you want to talk about . Sheryl yeah. It is different as i am raising kids and you are not in that point in your life. Youre going to have different viewpoints and write a different kind of thing. Charlie of all the things you have written, what has come closest to you . Sheryl that is a really good question. I dont know about of all the things i have written, but i could safely say that long way back on this record i think has encapsulated my journey and where i am at now, and in a way that is encouraging to people who are still trying to figure it out. I am lucky charlie because you have survived or because you prevailed . Sheryl i think because i stuck it out. The other great thing about the journey ive had, there is a story that we all tell ourselves about the way our life is supposed to look. There was a story for years i told myself about what was supposed to happen. You get married, you have kids, all that sort of thing. I really learned through my journey that the story you tell yourself about how things are supposed to be really limits your life. Just two words, thank you, can really manifest unbelievable things. Thank you for infinite possibilities, the things i dont even know. That has really been my mantra. Charlie did having kids affect your career at all . Sheryl yeah, in every way. Charlie you didnt tour as much or . Sheryl my first little boy went on the road when he was three years old. He has been to japan. His passport is incredible. My second son, i got a call when i was on jimmy fallon, he got his first steps while i was in the green room. I got a call that a baby was born while i was on jimmy fallon. They asked if i was interested, and i said absolutely. I found out about him and two days later, we went and picked him up. Charlie what age is mark . Sheryl just born, two or three days old. Wyatt basically got a little brother for his birthday. He took his first steps in the green room of ellen degeneres. We havent had a totally conventional life, but we are a really closeknit family. We have a pact i am never gone longer than two nights. Otherwise they are with me. I think the way it has changed the most is that i am enjoying making records and recording in school hours, which is not very rock n roll, but we have loved making this record. We made it between 8 30 and 5 30. Charlie do you want to tour . Sheryl we have been touring on the outlaw tour with willie nelson, his kids who are incredible as well, the avett isabel, jason i margo price, van morrison, bob dylan, who has been on some of it, who is just at the height of his game. It has just been a remarkable summer. We still have more dates to do. Charlie so all of you are performing . Sheryl it is like a traveling circus. I said, can you believe you are still doing this . Charlie the other night . Sen. Flake the other sheryl the other night. He has had this tour going for years and years and i said, you are still doing it and there are still kids out in your backstage parking lot playing. It is just incredible that he is kept this going. He is the architect and the teacher. He is just incredible. Charlie i wish you much success with this. Sheryl thank you. Charlie sheryl crow, be myself, looking back and looking forward, all of the things she has learned and her sense of what it means to be alive today. Thank you for joining us. See you next time. You get in a mess talk about a buzz kill ah, ah, ah, i want some attention ah, ah, ah, dont want competition jonathan from new york city, im jonathan ferro. 30 minutes dedicated the fixed income. This is bloomberg real yield. Jonathan coming up, congress clears legislation to suspend the u. S. Debt limit. President trump would like to scrap it altogether. The global synchronized growth story does not resonate with the bond market. Treasuries grind to new lows for 2017. And 2018 looks increasingly uncertain. The ecb is still exploring qe options. And the white house is said to be considering six candidates for fed chair. We begin with the big issue