Will it work . One of the main incumbents, good rx, shares their answer to the new competition. The bitcoin rally continues, but for how long . Brad darling house will have his take later this hour. Tech share is leading the market higher as more covid restrictions, staying at home for the foreseeable future. Scientists are racing to make advances on the vaccine front, but there is a long winter ahead. Joining us now is abigail doolittle, taking a look at the Market Movers of the day. A lot of conflicting strands. How does it add up . Yesterday, we had the bearish , the risk off news about Public Schools closing. The Biggest School systems in the u. S. Closing on the virus. We have hospitalizations at a record high in the u. S. Stocks yesterday sold off. Today, they rallied. They started in the red, and were flat on the day most of the day. At the end of the day, the nasdaq 100 climbing by about three quarters of 1 . Once again, we have the disconnect between stocks and a reality that would seem to be concerning. The narrative is stocks are looking forward six or nine months, when the vaccine gets into the system more and hopefully helps reverse the pandemic. However, stocks not taking into account the near term. Bonds are, thats a story for another day. A lot of stayathome stocks. Thats another conflicting piece of this tugofwar. Amazon, apple, and facebook are all higher. Those are the mega cap names that have a big waiting. Defense was higher on the day. Those are the sectors that led, tech and discretionary. Emily lets talk more about amazon. Edging higher. Ofhave the news of cases continuing hospitalizations, more people staying at home. How much of this is an overhang for the big pharma news, about amazon making an even bigger play in prescription drugs . Abigail in terms of amazon on the day, at this point we are looking forward relative to that. It is widely acknowledged there will be a big disruption to the pharmacy space. It is not proven. Until that time, it probably wont do much for amazon shares. Amazon is in a range. You can make a case that the stock is technically bearish. Not surprisingly, we have a reaction on the drugstore stoxx. Cvs and walgreens are down. A bigts are saying its concern for the long term, but in the near term, it is unlikely to be much of an effect. But you can see big declines in these spaces. Emily abigail doolittle, thank you so much for breaking it down. More on that now, one of the companies that stands to see some kind of an impact when amazon enters the pharmacy fray, good rx. How big will the impact be . I want to bring in the cofounder and ceo. There are some predictions it will be destructive to your industry. You are one of the incumbents. What is your answer to this . Doug amazon has had a mail order pharmacy for a couple of years, since 2018. The announcement a few days ago was updating that experience to try and get more people to switch to mail. The challenge is mail is hard. Only about 5 of prescription in this country are mail. And it has not gone up. People usually go to retail. We also work with amazon to find discounts for pharmacies. Emily does that mean you are not concerned . Good rx has 5 million members, amazon has 90 million prime members in the u. S. How worried are you that some of your customers, who also happen to be prime members, might move to the other side . Good rx helps americans find the lowest prices for their prescriptions everywhere. We saved americans over 25 billion. I applaud amazons efforts, its not what we do, we are a marketplace. We find the lowest prices and dissent consumers there. Amazon just upgraded their mail order experience. They also offered a discount card, where people miss karen to do as helping you get discounts at competitive pharmacies like walmart, walgreens. I dont think that is a crucial part. I dont think amazon or walmart would be happy if customers were leaving for another company. So we work with amazon, all of the mor pharmacies, drug manufacturers, to find the lowest price. The lowest prices that our subscription, they are lower 90 of the time usually than what amazons are. Emily how do you think this will change things . For me, who has to go to a drugstore to get a prescription filled, and that is not really convenient, especially in a pandemic. Doug its crazy, because you decant this point everything shows up you think at this point, everything shows up at our house. Yet pharmacy is so complicated, not as simple as one click. You have to get the prescription, there are reasons contractually why your drugstore may not participate. Amazon is only doing 30 day fills. If you want 90 days, you have to go to your insurance company. The contacts and restrictions are so great, and they have been underestimated by many. I remember drugstore. Com or they were going to revolutionize this, and the Insurance Companies no you are not. Health care doesnt work like ither industries, can be confusing and restrictive. We are trying to unravel that. Amazon is, as well. But it could be a long time before mail is a significant part of the overall prescription economy. Emily this is happening as congress is looking at amazon over antitrust issues. Do you think there are regulatory issues lawmakers should be concerned about, given they are making a lateral move into an industry where there is already concerns about how much power they already have . Doug i dont really have a lot of advantage point into amazon side. Gulation on that what im focused on is Overall Health care policy, which continues to fail many americans. Aremany americans uninsured, underinsured, and cannot afford health care they need. We work closely to provide information about pricing so political leaders can figure out how to solve the problem. We have been around since 2010, before the aca. Everyone said it would fix health care, it hasnt really done that. Americans still need help thats why we are trained to fill in the gaps with americans. We are trying to get them Affordable Health care. We are friends with anyone who will help us get there. Emily where do you see the innovation happening in the pharmacy business . Over the next five years . We are really excited about certain categories. Telehealth is amazing. It has been around for a long time, yet very few people use it. Then the pandemic hit, and it exploded. For certain categories, mental health, telehealth is here to stay plead if ik can see my therapist in interaction like we are happening, if i can see my therapist in an interaction like we are having right now, that would be good. It would lower the cost. Also, we are finally seeing a lot of options where brand good rx has rolled out branded saving solutions, where we help people find savings on the massively expensive drugs, 500,000 drugs, where we are trying to drive people, also help find doctors have doctors find solutions. Howre really pleased at manufacturers, pharmacies, and everyone is realizing they have to do something, because it is not working. So we expect a lot of innovation around finding savings for brand prescriptions. Hirsch, thank you so much for joining us. Airbnb has filed to go public on the nasdaq, listing shares on another trading venue still a possibility . Our conversation with erik reese is coming up next. This is bloomberg. Emily we have breaking news. The Gaming Company roadblocks has just filed for an initial public offering. We are getting nuggets from their filing. The popular company among tweens reporting daily active users, 31. 1 million in nine months, ending september 30. It joined the flurry of ipos trying to round out 2020. Just this week, airbnb filed to go public on the nasdaq. The Company Might also list shares in 2021 on its upstart trading venue for Companies Committed to environmental, social, and Corporate Governance values. In addition to the traditional ipo, airbnb is weighing a listing on a Longterm Stock Exchange founded by the lean startup author, erik reese. Thank you for joining us. This would be huge. I know the conversations are confidential, but what can you tell us about the likelihood of airbnb doing this with you . I cant speak to which companies will list, but the conversations are comfort the confidence the conversations are confidential. I cannot say anything about that. It were to said, if happen with airbnb or a company of similar size, what kind of legitimizing force would that have on something you have been working on for a long time, and waiting for a company to make this move . I have been working on this for the better part of a decade, and we are excited we were able to begin Trading Operations on september 9. That will be the official start time for us to have these conversations with companies. Separate from any particular company, what is important is the issues of Corporate Governance. In this next generation, there are incredible Corporate Leaders to are really committed 21st century way of Building Companies thats different from what has come before. Our goal is to create a venue thats appropriate to their standards. Emily you built a business on a bestselling book and a methodology. I know you built a lot of strong relationships with founders, people like airbnbs ceo. Talk about your relationship with those kind of founders, and the conversations you are having about making a decision like this. Its a bit of a cliche now to think the people in Silicon Valley are trying to change the world. As i have gotten to know people, i think they are sincerely committed to it. About he cares a lot sustainability, what he calls a multistakeholder way of building a company, his hosts, his guests, and understands taking care of the human beings in his community leads to success for shareholders. If you look at the action the next Generation Leaders are taking, you dont take their word for it. He just hosted did the host endowment fund, placing a good amount of the companys stock in a sovereign wealth fund, and i think this recognition that these platforms, not just airbnb, but many nextgeneration companies, these platforms are so powerful, they are like nationstates under themselves. Responsibility to shape what the 21st century will look like. Emily we just learned roblox has filed for an ipo to list on the new york stock exchange. Talk about the selling point of the Longterm Stock Exchange. Why should an airbnb cpl, or roblox, affirm, any of these Companies Getting out, choose you, and what are they giving up if they dont go that traditional route . Was important to remember is we are asking companies to daul list to still have a primary listing on nasdaq or n. Y. C. , we dont affect their access to liquidity. None of the conventional Things Companies seek to gain in an ipo will be lost by daul listing on ltse. The risk is low. One of the things everyone in business agrees on is shortterm thinking has become an epidemic problem. Just look outside if you want to see the consequences. When you talk to managers of companies, they are finding themselves living a quarter to quarter, struggle to make the long investments, focus on the longterm, investments in r d get starved. Thats not what the next generation of Company Leaders want in their market experience. As we have seen through the pandemic, the companies with the longterm focus and philosophy, they are better equipped to deal with disruption, better at taking care of employees and customers, who will remember who was there for them and who wasnt. So i think this capability to adapt while remaining true to their vision is the essence of this next generation of leadership. The standards we have embedded into the Longterm Stock Exchange are aligned with that ethos. Emily its been an unprecedented year. We have a lot of pent up ipo demand. We will see how many of those Companies Make it out of the gate. What is your forecast for 2021 . Do we go back to some kind of normal after this unprecedented time . Does this feeling of disruption continue for a while . Its funny to think the 21st century is already 1 5 over. Anyone who thinks it will be smoother or calmer in the years to come is not paying attention. We are basically 100 years removed from what our grandparents and greatgrandparents went through. The rolling 20s of the 20th century, when the pandemic ends, the pandemic what will be unleashed here will look by comparison. But we have to learn the civic lessons they had to learn the hard way. It happened in the 20s, but also the 30s and 40s. We are on a similar trajectory if we dont make specific investments now that allow us to build broadly shared prosperity throughout society. So i think entrepreneurs and tech leaders have an Important Role to play in forging that new consensus, but it will require abouthtened thinking the role of a corporation, the purpose of a corporation in these turbulent times. I think if we can really lay out the new ground rules, the new social contract of what it means to be a great company, we all have a role to play in that. In the press, those of us who advise companies, and the founders themselves, in saying these new companies, this new ethos has to be about taking care of human beings are the societies they inhabit, or we will have a repeat of some of the atrocities we saw last century. Emily certainly it sounds very worthy. Eric ries, good to have you back here on the show. Coming up, we will be talking about crypto. Ripples ceo will be my guest. This is bloomberg. Emily bitcoin is having a moment in the sun again after a couple of seismic shakes that destroyed billions in value. Week,ssed 18,000 this the highest since january 2018 after climbing in late october, when paypal said it would allow customers to use cryptocurrencies. Ripples ceo. Great to have you on the show. Bitcoin has been a huge run. We are seeing a new rally in cryptocurrency that we have not seen in a few years. What is your take on why this is happening, and why it will last . I think it will last for a while. Thank you for having me on, its good to talk to you again. What we are seeing happen are some macro factors, not the least of which is you print billions and trillions of dollars and a stimulus of fiat currencies, many people take a look at inflation hedges. While gold has been the darling in that category, increasingly, we see bitcoin and Digital Assets broadly viewed as this is a real inflation hedge, and it has driven a lot of the activity. Almost record highs. Emily paypal is now allowing you to buy, sell, and hold cryptocurrency, which kicked off the big run. But they have not included ripples xrp. Xrp has been a topic of a lot of speculative age speculation, as having a lot to look at at the currency, which is separate from ripple the company. A lot of foreign regulators across the world have looked at and been decisive at looking at xrp as a digital currency. In the u. S. , you have not had the same clarity. It was out of that clarity that you had Companies Like paypal, square, and others supporting bitcoin. Because it has that clarity. I ownbull on bitcoin, bitcoin, but i think we need to acknowledge when bitcoin is more than 50 of the mining in china, china can control those technologies. I think we in the u. S. Really need to get in sync with other Major Economies across the world in how we look at an asset like xrp and treat it similarly. Emily how concerned are you china, given their support of it, somehow starts to dominate the market and gives the country an advantage . Chinese communist party is being very strategic and is focused on dominating this technology. I worry this will be the next 5g race. We lost that race, and i think we are in danger of repeating that mistake again in the battle for what i think will be the future of our Global Financial infrastructure and payments. I think the irony is that unintentionally as a regulatory body in the u. S. , we have given an advantage to bitcoin to provide the Good Housekeeping sale of approval from the fcc that has allowed people to, like paypal, and others with that clarity and uncertainty, shey are supporting those asset and allowing entrepreneurs to build companies around them and safely invest. Emily you made headlines last month when you said ripple might move its headquarters out of the u. S. Due to the lack of regulatory clarity. Now that we have joe biden becoming president elect, are you still contemplating that . What are your hopes under a Biden Administration . A lot of these issues are very bipartisan, so i dont see it as fundamentally different between who is at 1600 pennsylvania. I think there are some subtle changes. Ultimately, ripple is an american company, we are a proud u. S. Company, we want to stay here, we generate a lot of tax revenue for the government and a lot of highpaying jobs. We also need a level playing field. If we can compete effectively with these technologies, in this case, controlled by chinese miners, we have to compete on a level playing field. So we would look elsewhere. One thing i will say that will change in a Biden Administration is another drawback of how bitcoin operates, mining. 1 of Global Energy consumption is consumed by bitcoin mining. In a world where we should be attentive to carbon production dynamicsmpact of the going on in the climate, i think the Biden Administration will be more attuned to those dynamics, bring more attention to the lack of efficiency in bitcoin mining. Garlinghouse, always good to have you on the show. A lot of things to watch. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us. We have been getting headlines out of california. California has now ordered a 10 00 p. M. Curfew for 94 of the states population as cases of covid19 continue to surge. Hospitalizations also surging. A pretty Huge Development we will follow and try and get more details on the curfew going into effect in california. For coming up, vaccines covid1