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have contact with protest groups. so that begs the question. if they had regular contact with the oath keepers and other extremist groups and protest groups, why didn't they look into any signs or even the warnings that groups like the anti-defamation league or the southern poverty law center had been putting out in the lead up to january 6th about groups, including the oath keepers, don. >> darrell, what strikes you about this? is it surprising? >> well, i've got a little bit of a mixed feeling. the oath keepers is a far-right anti-government extremist group. that we all know. they have a sole purpose of recruiting current and former military as well as law enforcement. so on one hand i can understand the secret service is just processing a normal call that comes in, trying to answer questions. on the other hand, we need to be smarter with who we are dealing with on the phone because these extremist groups could use that