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somehow played -- >> don't read in more into it or whatever, you need to not deal with it. >> they may have given them a preview of what the indictment looks like. >> right, depending if it really was fictitious or not fictitious. anthony, if trump is charged and convicted in the state ofle geo -- of georgia, just to be clear, he cannot marr cannot pardon himself, they're state charges. is there any else in georgia, with the way georgia law works, who could prevent him having prison time? >> the power to parole is not a governor's gift. it's an obligation, responsibility that's invested by the georgia constitution to board of pardons and parole. so it would really be up to them. but even then ultimately a sentence has to be filled before they can consider a pardon. so there's really no easy out in