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democratic former state senators went in to testify today. we expected they would be asked about a presentation they witnessed by rudy giuliani that was laden with conspiracy theories. moments ago the former lieutenant governor, jack duncan, will join us shortly. we know there is at least one other witness inside, the independent journalist, george chetee. he s been helpfully tweeting updates about his status but his tweets also suggested there s at least one other witness still in there so it might be a while on whether we get any answers about the possible fourth indictment of former president trump. paula, thank you very much. of course we ll go back to paula the instant she hears anything. as promised, i do want to go straight to jeff duncan, who just finished testifying before the fulton county grand jury moments ago. you were scheduled tomorrow, they called you in today.