What can it be . Well take you inside why. Heres our main story. The enemy is within. Nancy pelosi, speaker of the house, saying democrats are threatened by a cult of chaos rising within the ranks of the gop, listen. We will probably need a supplemental for more security for members. When the enemy is within the house of representatives. It is a party at war with itself. And the leaders now seem to have no control. The proof, you have the main republican in the house, kevin mccarthy. He told his caucus to get along. The next day, upstart Congressman Matt Gates went to the home state of liz cheney, number three in the caucus, and attacked her personally. If you want to prove that you have the power, defeat liz cheney in this upcoming election, and wyoming will bring washington to its knees. Maybe we ought to fight the neocons at home so we dont have to fight them in washington, d. C. But thats the problem, isnt it . Because the neocons are at home in washington, d. C. I had a chance to communicate with President Trump yesterday. [ cheers and applause ] he sends his love, he loves you all so much, and President Trump is going to keep fighting for this country with every breath that he has. Now i wanted you to hear that last part. Two reasons there. One, hes going after his own. Two, you heard why. Hold that thought. Remember, its not just gaetz. This qanon kook elected to the house in georgia, from georgia. Members were quick to call her an aberration. Mccarthy said he would have a private meeting with her to talk about these extreme qanon views, that shed change. He just put her on a key committee. Remember who this person is. Marjorie taylor greene. This is her chasing down a Parkland School shooting survivor. She believes parkland was a false flag event, fyi, meaning it wasnt what we thought it was. Newtown also, where all those kids were killed. She goes after this kid telling him she has a gun with her. Then when a reporter tries to ask her a question, hes threatened with arrest. Shes now scrubbing her social media. But cnn found a post where she once supported shooting nancy pelosi. So you have your answer. The war in the gop is over. And we know what won. Worse won. Because gaetz as you heard, he doesnt take orders from the leadership, he takes orders from the same man who said that qanon congresswoman was a future leader in the gop. You know who that is . This guy. And heres more proof that its over. Kevin mccarthy flew down to Kiss The Ring of the man he criticized for stoking the insurrection on january 6th. Why do you think . Because they are doubling down on the division. Its over. Thats what its going to be about. And you have to prepare yourself for that, and the democrats have to figure out what to do with it, biden too. Because its the same thing in the senate. Mcconnell pulled that bait and switch, right . He proved his undying loyalty to the king, right . He voted to dismiss the trial after begging for time to give the trial its due. After saying trump provoke the mob and fed them lies. Why would he make that reversal . Now you know why. Its over. Theyre not about character. Theyre not about law and order. They are about following the law of what trump orders. They wont even call out any of the extreme right groups by name. Some members like miss greene and others want to bring guns on the floor of congress, dont want to submit themselves to metal detectors, and threaten violence on other members of congress, according to pelosi. Heres what we know for sure. The acting Capitol Police chief has just called for permanent fencing around the capitol postinsurrection. Can you believe this . Are the people safe inside . Are they safe from one another . What does that mean for us . We finally have a President Taking Aim at the pandemic and related problems, but what can get done on the pandemic in the midst of pandemonium . Lets bring if the better minds. David gregory and Governor John Kasich join me to you. Gov . Not an easy assessment to hear of your party, but what do i have wrong . I mean, all of the dots seem to connect into this kind of deal of disruption. Id say the only thing you may have wrong, theres a remnant of normal people in the Republican Party who arent buying into this. Chris, the situation is that the Republican Leadership has really gone along in in fostering these lies, these conspiracies. You know, the election was stolen, you know even that in and of itself is enough to say. So what has to happen in order to wake people up is the republicans in a clear voice have to say, we lost the election. You know, plain and simple. And then there are people in the party right now and frankly, trump was a false prophet, chris, he was a false prophet. When he told people, the people who go paycheck to paycheck, whose kids are not doing well, whose jobs are at risk, hes telling them, ill fix all this. And those folks, youre not going to youve got to give them ideas and give them some hope. Because much of this is about desperation, conspiracies. But ive got to hold the leadership and the Party Accountable for this, because they continued to foster untruths. Not untruths, they foster lies and misinformation. And people out here, some of whom are desperate, are willing to latch on to anything. And thats how trump became the false prophet. Well, he still seems to be in control of the flock. David, lets flip the analysis for a second. What are biden and the democrats to do . Because, look, ive been very open. I thought cutting a deal with mcconnell for any kind of power sharing, even having a discussion, was a mistake. And yet biden says he wants things done in bipartisan fashion. Kasich says there are good faith republicans there. You hear that from Democratic Senators as well. So do they try to get a deal on the pandemic . Or do they go full trump themselves and just force it down through reconciliation, not even try and work with them . Look, its going to be both. I think biden wants to try. I think he wants to go for big deals, big Pandemic Package in response, and only as a last resort will he go to reconciliation. I think he will. I think he wants to move very, very quickly he wont get a big deal even with a handful of republicans. He could get a piecemeal deal. Thats all the reporting that we hatch, from my sources as well. You can get key components done. Vaccine financing, money for unemployed extension, money for people hard up. Youre not going to get the 1. 9. Thats going to put him in a tough spot, because the need for money, for vaccine distribution, or to help schools get reopened, that is so vital. It may not be in the countrys interest for him to hold out to try to get something bigger. I want to make a point about the republicans, too. We dont know what the Heart And Soul of the Republican Party is right now. What we know is that trump still has a lot of influence, and we know that leaders in the house, like mccarthy, who want to be speaker, are going to go Kiss The Ring, literally, for power immediately. They want power in 2022, maybe looking into 2024. I think the future of the Republican Party may be different. Maybe the governors right, that it comes back to your rank and file republicans and other conservatives who try to figure out how they get back to some semblance of what they were. What we dont know is how big that trump base is now. There are a lot of republicans, i agree with the governor, who have left him. He couldnt get reelected, hes a oneterm president. He has power, we just dont know how big it is. We know theres plenty of enablers still. I actually think a little differently about mcconnell than you do, chris. I think mcconnell fired a flare and was hopeful people would run toward it, other republicans, and he was wrong. They didnt. And he decided to hang back. Yeah, thats called not leadership. Right . Because leaders lead. Right. You vote the right way because thats the message you want to send, thats a flare. What he flew up was a match in the wind. I hear you, i hear the analysis. I would defer to you because you may not be the older brother but youre the smarter one. Gov, you have mccarthy going down to see trump. Thats not something thats ridiculous. You do anyway, even when the president loses and hes a good guy, you dont do that because its a new administration. What do you say to kevin mac car snow. Atrocious, its embarrassing, its shameful. You dont see mcconnell going down there, i agree with david, youre seeing Something Different out of mcconnell than you see out of kevin. Going down there to florida, All In The Name Of power, power politics. All In The Name Of reinforcing a false prophet, who misled people, many people, who were desperate. And not only just poor people, but people who think the system has worked against them. And trump was out there telling them, ive got all the answers. Thats to some degree why they wont let go. And also because the notion that this was stolen, that the democrats are about to destroy america as we know it. That is still alive. One thing about biden, chris, that i will say to you, he needs to try to get a package that is critical in terms of the things some of the things that david has talked about. You know, the unemployment. The pandemic relief. The things that are really critical. And if i were him or advising him, i would tell him to meet with some of these republicans. There were five of them the other day who voted the right way. Try to make some of it bipartisan. And be reasonable. Now, because youve got to give a little bit to get something. If they will not cooperate, then youll have no choice. Then he should use the bully pulpit to say, the republicans dont want to do anything. But you have to make that effort. Remember, chris, critical aid for the pandemic relief is vital for america. Right. But hes got a lot of other things hes talking about. And remember, he said he was fighting to fix the soul of america. So that sort of is bigger, bigger than a lot of these issues that we can talk about on climate cly president s cri cr climates critical, i agree, but hes going to restore the soul of am america. Republicans have to help him by telling the truth. Not going to happen. Theres one bad fact i want the audience to remember. It is my understanding that theres A Billion Dollars that has been spoken for by congress, but has not been apportioned yet, it hasnt been spent. Thats going to be a problem again. It was a problem last time, a problem this time. Theres still A Billion Dollars they voted to spend that they havent. And thats going to be something that the biden administrations going to have to figure out. You know what . You know, the governors kind of right, but ordinarily, whats going on in the opposing party isnt your problem, but it is bidens problem. Because all of this is a distraction from what he wants to be focusing on. Right. And, you know, the real problem in republican circles right now is that trumpism is has become this lie. Its become an attack on our elections. Its become this big lie that the election was stolen. You know, matt gaetz talking about taking on neoconservatives. Theres an argument over jobs, over training, over china, over americas production of power in the world. But trump forfeited that conversation of consequence when he decided to act like an authoritarian president and to launch an attack on another branch of government. So mccarthy and gaetz and others who are engaged in all of that are having an untruthful conversation. But biden has to deal with that Republican Party that is still showing majority saying trump should rerun, should run again in 2024. So he doesnt know who to deal with because other republicans are happy to take him on, on spending or take him on on the woke left or the cancel culture. Hes got the two schisms, the two parts of the Republican Party coming at him at a time when hes got limited time to do something big. He has to ask himself what youre asking, whats the incentive of the other side to really join hands with me to achieve big things here, rather than just wait for this next election cycle, which began yesterday . Davids key word, gov, the last word to you, but the key word with david is big. Biden has to deliver big things to make his party and his constituency happy. How does he do that with this climate . Lets fix the country, lets focus. You make a little compromise here with the republicans and try to get something that we can all agree is critical. And i want to also tell you, chris, if the republicans dont start to talk about these ideas and their solutions, a number of the ones that david just mentioned, in my opinion, the Republican Party will cease to exist. One final point. In politics, you need to take the heat. Its not about reelection. Its about what you stand for. We put up a flare . No, dont just put up a flare, seize the high moral ground. Thats what politics is about. Thats what leaders are about. They are the ones that say, let it come, bring it on, and im going to withstand it, and in the end the truth shall win. We need more of that out of, frankly, out of everybody in politics today. Well, i would define everybody as everybody in your party right now, because ive never seen the gop in the situation that its in right now. Yeah. David gregory, thank you. I agree. Thank you. Ill give you the last word, gov. I cant catch you midbreath like that. There are people on the hard left of the Democratic Party who are just vicious attackers but they didnt start an insurrection on the u. S. Capitol and refuse to name the its not a both sides situation here, gov. Im not trying to compare them exactly, but im saying when you sit around the table at home and the argument starts with brother and mom and sister and everybody else, you cant have one side continuing to do things that light a flare on the other side. No, i hear you. You know how i end it at my table right now . You tell me why your party isnt saying that these groups are terrorists and they dont want any part of them, and why theyre not saying they should be held accountable. When i silence comes i say, shut up and eat. Theyre dead wrong and they should be calling him out and they shouldnt be visiting him in florida. Its wrong. Its dead wrong. And the lies are wrong. And theyve got to get on the right road or they continue to damage our country. Theyre picking up speed but not in the right direction. David gregory, thank you. Governor kasich, thank you times three. You saw the one thing that brought aoc and ted cruz together, okay . They do not like each other. Aoc says she wont even work with him on this, by the way. It is outrage at the robin hood apps stock block, as they call it, in the middle of this game stop controversy. Why does this matter so much . Its about the big guy against the little guy. And it looks like the system was rigged in a place thats called robin hood thats supposed to be for the little guy to help the big guy. Is that so . The ceo of robin hood joins me live along with the creator of wall street bets. Is it confusing . Yes. But it certainly can be made understandable. I will lay it out for you. Then we are going to take it up with both sides. First, the Terror Threat that is hovering over washington is not a theory, its not hypothetical. Weve had two arrests near the capitol in the last 36 hours. Andrew mccabe on the race to stop another deadly assault next. Lanning and advice to help you prepare for the future, without sacrificing whats most important to you today. Because with fidelity, you can feel confident that the only direction youre moving is forward. Do you have a Life Insurance policy you no longer need . Now you can sell your policy, even a term policy, for an immediate cash payment. We thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. But we quickly realized that we needed a way to supplement our income. If you have One Hundred Thousand dollars or more of Life Insurance you may qualify to sell your policy. Dont cancel or let your policy lapse without finding out what its worth. Visit conventrydirect. Com to find out if you policy qualifies. Or call the number on your screen. Coventry direct, redefining insurance. Danafarber Cancer Institute discovered the pdl1 pathway. Pdl1. They changed how the world fights cancer. Blocking the pdl1 protein, lets the immune system attack, attack, attack cancer. Pdl1 transformed, revolutionized, immunotherapy. Pdl1 saved my life. Saved my life. Saved my life. What we do here at danafaber, changes lives everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Everywhere. Around the reality that nothing is over. Once they open this pandoras box of allowing hateful people to start recruiting within the traditional political ranks of unrest, we were going to have problems for a long time to come. New arrests more than three weeks after the attempted coup at the capitol. The most recent ones today in missouri and new york. But those all stem from january 6th. There are still problems, fresh ones. Tonight the feds are more worried about what could be coming. As we reported from that new dhs domestic terror bulletin. And they may have just gotten a taste of that. Police say a West Virginia man was arrested near the capitol wednesday. He had a handgun, 20 rounds of ammo, a list of lawmakers, and stop the steal paperwork. Okay . Whether or not he had what it took to carry out the threat or not in miss mind, in his mentality, well see. But the message is clear. He told detectives he was concerned about the honesty and integrity of the election. There was another man arrested today. He tried to get around a Security Checkpoint and fought with the officers. Lets bring in andrew mccabe. Where do you draw the line between, okay, these are oneoff guys who are not in full control of themselves, versus, no, this is extremism that is going to be planned and acted on, lone wolf, or in combination . Chris, youve always had your oneoff peopl