Meeting she insisted she would not apologize for her vote. That as Kevin Mccarthy refuses to strip assignments from q anons Marjory Taylor greene. Vote tomorrow. Stay tuned for that. John harwood is here and ryan nobles as well. Ryan, you have been following all of the drama on the capitol tonight. Tell us about what happened inside this gop meeting, please. It was pretty remarkable, don. This was a meeting that spanned more than four hours tonight here on capitol hill. Were told at times that the meeting was pretty tense, that, you know, members within books were given the opportunity to stand up and say whatever they wanted about either liz cheney or Marjory Taylor greene, really whats most interesting about the outcome of all this, were told that inside the room, most of the incoming fire was directed at liz cheney, not at Marjory Taylor greene. In fact, Marjory Taylor greene spoke, she even received a partial standing ovation, but that didnt reflect the ultimate results. In fact, liz cheney was able to hold on to her Leadership Post by a comfortable margin. After it was all said and done, kevin mckart think said its evidence that his Republican Party is part of one big tent. Take a listen. Joochl its just an example, this Republican Party is a very big tank. Everyones invited in. You look at the last election. We continue to grow. In two years well be the majority. He thinks thats enough for them to continue to grow their majority. What lies beneath all this is a sense of angst and division with these republican members. This was a Secret Ballot here tonight. Up in of these members will be held accountable for how they voted. You have to wonder tomorrow when we see all of them forced to make a public vote on whether or not to kick Marjory Taylor greene off these committees that she sits on, if it looks remark blip different than what we saw with liz cheney tonight because many of them are nervous to draw the ire of the former president donald trump. Cowardas is what they call it. You mentioned theyre afraid to draw the ire. If that vote wasnt secret, the vote was 145 who voted tonight to oppose her. Its pretty even. I think its a great point. We have to ask the question, if these members had to be accountable for this vote and if they had to go back to their districts, many of which are districts that the former president won comfortably in this past fall election, would they have be as courageous to continue to support liz cheney . And we dont know the answer to that question. We may never know the answer to that question but it is certainly something worth pondering. What it also tells us is that even though some of these republican members will publicly continue to stay they embrace the former president , that they believe that they should continue to be the leader of the Republican Party, that privately, they actually dont feel that way, that they would be they are would be more than happy to move on from trump dominating the conversation in their party and moving to some sort of a new future. For many of them, theyre in a tight spot here because he is still part of the equation. Even if thats what they hope, its not necessarily what their supporters in the districts support. It would be the smart thing to do, the right thing to do. It would also be the strategic thing to do. But you know, who am i . Chain any survived the vote but we saw the Committee Side with Marjory Taylor greene over liz cheney. That is exactly what donald trump wants, you know, ive been calling the qop now, qanon old party. This is exactly what trump wants. Don, i would say i would not say that they sided with Marjory Taylor greene over liz cheney. They declined to strip Marjory Taylor greene of her Committee Assignments and left liz cheney in her position. That was a decision to try to avoid making anybody angry, avoid drawing any lines, avoid setting any firm partnerships. Now, let people vent against liz cheney but she ended up with a solid vote to hold her position. She cheered Marjory Taylor greene. You just heard that sound bide from Kevin Mccarthy. He came out and said big ten, everybodys invited in. Thats really the issue. Weve heard from republican senators last couple of days, mitt romney saying our tents not big enough to embrace both conservatives and cooks. Mitch mcconnell said looney lies are a cancer on the republican parties. They were not willing to draw the line. Yes, she spoke in that meeting and expressed regret for having put her colleagues in a bad spot. Has she come out publicly apologized for what she said . She has not. This is another display of Republican Leadership thats playing to the least common denominator and is not Strong Enough to stand up and draw clear lines. Republicans are breaking down in factions. Who are the democrats supposed to ignite with at this point . Its not likely that theyre going to unite with any large group of republicans. Its plain its not going to happen in the house. In the senate, you hadded that group of ten that proposed a measure on covid relief that was way, way short of anything that joe biden could deal with. Joe bidens package will probably change somewhat. The price tag will probably come down a little bit. It is not impossible that some a couple of republican senators might end up voting for that. Mitt romney said today, 1. 9, no republican senator will. So its possible they will get small number of republican votes, but they dont need them and theyre not going to wait for them. Gentlemen, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Charlie den is a former republican congressman from pitch. Brendan buck is here, who was a top aide to the Forum RepublicanHouse Speaker paul ryan. Gents, hello. Help me help the audience understand what the hell is going on in this country. Charlie, i got to jump right into it. Because if half the elected republicans in congress are given an antiConspiracy Theory theorist, is it time for republicans like you to form a new party . Well, theres a real debate right now, don, just about that. You know, should there be a new faction or a new party . I think right now that there needs to be a faction pushing back. I think somebody like Adam Kin Zinger is doing a really Important Service by standing up and saying we need reclaim the party and bring it back to core values and core principles. I mean, the fact that they are, you know, hammering liz cheney, although i have to tell you liz cheney, she called their bluff. They said they had the votes to take her down. She said lets call a volt. They won by better than a two to one margin, so good for her. On the other hand, Taylor Greene is going to be a boat anchor around the necks of so many of those republicans in wing and margin districts. Just as republicans tie democrat to aoc and the squad, its a fair turnaround. Democrats are going to do the same thing with Taylor Greene. Liz cheney survived by a big margin in a secret vote. Still, it was 60, 61 people. That was a lot. Mccarthy refused to take action on greene. Democrats are going to bring a vote to the floor tomorrow. Every republican will have to go on record. How does this all look . Well, its a terrible look. I expect almost every republican will vote against that resolution. Probably theyll argue on precedent terms and i think theres a real concern there. We are spire spiraling into a dangerous place where parties are dictating to other parties who gets to serve on what committees. I really fear what happens if republicans take back the house, what they will do to democrats if a let tri bulldogs. Theyre all going to vote no but that will be intercepted as a vote in support of Marjory Taylor greene, which is a terrible look for the party. I really wish we had been able to head this off before we got to this point. And look, whats so upsetting to me to hear what Kevin Mccarthy said earlier about the big tent. I intercepted it as him saying we have to have a at the present time big enough for liz cheney. Thats the crazy part. Liz cheney should be the traditional republican whos always been there and now we have to make an accuse excuse that were big enough to support a liz cheney. If we cant have liz cheney, we have no principles, no ideas. This is the type of person we should be wanting to have. Somebody who actually has a Point Of View and isnt just this to get on tv. Im really glad we avoided complete disaster today, but i think what youre going to see in the vote tomorrow with Everybody Siding with Marjory Taylor greene is that we still have a very big problem and a long way to go. Liz cheney, folks like liz cheney used to be the tent pole. They were not just inside the pole. They were the pole that held up the at the present time. There was an interception you can intercept that they were making that the tent is big enough for a racist Conspiracy Theorist as well. Is that who republicans want to make room for inside the tent . I we cant. Look. We cant. Even the president s former president s campaign put out a memo that was reported this week looking back at why they lost. They lost because they had incredible erosion among educated suburban voters. Lets put the moral question aside, which obviously theres huge moral issues. You have cant win back suburban educated voters by having one of the most prominent faces of the party right now, and she is, the face of the freshman class of the Republican Party, a Conspiracy Theorist. You cant win back by that. You have to say what youre for. Im glad she got in front of the conference and apologized, i guess. I wasnt there. No, she din. Shes going to have to a, say that publicly. She didnt apologize. Ok. Were going to have to have more and more people push her aside or else were going to signal were ok with that and we cant be. Hmm. Charlie, siding with the extremes and the base, what effect does that have on the party long term . Where do the moderates go . Look, this is a continuing problem for the party. The erosion, as he just pointed out, of suburban educated voters is catastrophic to the party. Thats why donald trump lost as badly as he did. And when we talk about a big tent, i didnt think the idea of a big tent was to include these extremist Conspiracy TheoristWhite Nationalist elements. Thats what we were talking about. I thought we meant they were p we were trying to grow the matter more towards center. I think we have to have a revisitation of whats a big tent. Long term, its difficult for republicans to win back seats in those Swing Districts largely in swurn communities where weve taken a beating. How do you win those seats back when we have you know, when basically theyve just embraced somebody like Taylor Greene. I argued since summertime, they should have told her that she was not going to get any Committee Assignments and not welcome her into the republican conference. Thats the way you deal with her. You have to margin allies and isolate them and it takes leadership to do that. Long eterm, the country is nt moving in the direction the Republican Party is going right now. Its not moving in the Conspiracy Theory direction. Its not moving in the White Nationalist direction. As a matter of fact, the country is becoming more diverse. And so thats going to lead to a shrinking party. I have so run but let me ask you, do you think the party can recover from this or have they crossed the rubicon and theres no coming back . Were not there yet but were reaching the appointment. Whats happening is the base is shrinking. We talk about how intense the base is. But its a smaller base. So many people are no longer identifying as republican republican. They moved in to democrat, long term, thats catastrophic. Demography is destiny and we know. You cant escape it. Thank you, gentlemen. Paralyzed in the face of Marjory Taylor greene, why is his Party Choosing to go down the rabbit hole . And what does that say to people who actually believe her qanon lies . If theyre not going to call her out on it, then everybody else believing it, theres got to be some sort of truth. And if theres some truth, why would anybody leave . It is love, love, love that makes it all worthwhile and it is love, love, love that cant help but make you smile. It is love, love, love that lights the sun and stars above. Oh, i want you to know you are loved. Send the love. Order now at edible. Com so the Republican Party showing its true colors. Liz cheney hanging on to her Leadership Position after voting to impeach trump for inciting the Capitol Insurrection. But Marjory Taylor greene, a Conspiracy Theorist, gets a free pass. Analysts, david gurgen and Kirsten Powers are with me. This is where we are. Good evening to the both of you. David, you, first. Yes, sir. The Republican Party had a chance, is really had a chance for a clean break with trump. He incited the deadly insurrection. Instead, they are continuing to plunge down this rabbit hole. Where does this lead them . To an unralphling of the Republican Party and poenl the replacement by another party down the road. Were not there yet but trump is gone but trumpism remains live and well. Its like a toxic virus thats taken over the party. It is extremely dangerous for the country that the republicans keep stirring this pot, keep continuing arguing that biden has fraudly elected, make it more difficult to govern. One of the reasons that shes gotten away with this so far is that people are scared of her on capitol hill. Its the most its just its unbelievable to me. I got to get people like jim baker and George Schultz and people who have locked the walked the hallways of republican power and this woman whos i dont question her gender. I question what she beliefs and how she is positioning our politics. Kirsten, rick wilson, who is a Lincoln Project cofounder told anderson earlier tonight that Marjory Taylor greene broke Kevin Mccarthy and she is now the Minority Leader. It sounds wild but is there some truth to that . Well, i dont think its just her. Shes the face of this. And really donald trump is the original face, so its, you know, donald trump is largely responsible for stirring you have up a lot of these Conspiracy Theirries and bringing the Republican Party to a place. Shes come and is sort of a standin for donald trump. He, of course, loves her. She unfortunately represents the views of a percentage that is significant enough percentage of the Republican Party that other members of congress are afraid of her. So she wouldnt be they boont afraid of her if she wasnt representing people who they thought could bring harm to them in terms of voting them out of office, right . So thats what i think is the particularly concerning issue about this just stepping back from Republican Party politics, but for the country that we have so many people, you know, i mean, ive seen the interviews and ive read interviews with people who have said if donald trump would have just said that the election was legitimate, i would have believed him, right, so these people are being led along all these different Conspiracy Theories and, you know, shes just another person whos basically pushing these ideas that already have gotten a lot of traction. Speaker pelosi, kirsten, called Kevin Mccarthy the Minority Leader qcalifornia, right . They know this is a mess for republicans. They know it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, theres no question that you know, i mean, i know that Marjory Taylor greene is basically saying democrats are stupid for doing this, they dont understand theyre making me more popular. And thats true. They are. But what she doesnt seem to understand is that its harming the Republican Party. Or maybe she doesnt care, also. So this is actually going to cause harm to the Republican Party in terms of politics because she will become the face of the Republican Party. I would say not without her it. I think sometimes you see where, you know, people try to take nancy pelosi, for example, the re