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CNN CNN Tonight With Don Lemon July 11, 2024

The House Taking Desacrificive Action tonight against gop congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene stripping her of committee assignments. Democrats punishing her for pushing lies about 9 11 and School Shootings and embracing the qanon theory. Only 11 republicans voting with democrats. Lawyers for the former president refusing a request by house Impeachment Managers that trump testify at his upcoming trial in the senate. And a major move by Johnson Johnson in the battle against coronavirus, asking the fda for an Emergency Use Authorization of its single shot covid19 vaccine. So, as you can tell, we have a lot to talk about. I want to bring in cnns White House Correspondent mr. John harmon. Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene officially removed from her assignments but only 11 republicans chose to hold her accountable. Her last move to rewrite history did not work. Where do you think this leaves the gop, john . The gop does not feel it can afford to aylienate people like mar Marjorie Taylor greene. Energy, intensity, and turnout of a lot of blue collar voters, especially evangelicals, people in small towns and rural areas who feel alienated from the way American Society is change. Society is becoming more diverse, racially diverse, religiously diverse, less white, and they think the culture is passing them by, they think the economy is passing them by, and a lot of those people have turn in the recent years to more extreme political messages. We saw it during the obama years after the first Black President was elected. You saw the rage of the tea party movement, and that has continued. And you simply have a you know, its not all qanon or any particular group, but its the anger and bitterness and alienation, and its a very broad swath of the republican electorate they cant turn away. What you said is fascinating. Every study shows what youre saying is exactly right. I think we need to study why thats happening or more thought needs to be put into why thats happening. How is greene, by the way, responding to this house vote tonight . Dwrgreene is appeal to the se of shared grievance of the voters and politicians as well. The most common thing you hear from politicians and voters alike is theyre out to get us. Big business, media is out to get us. The drift of American Society is taking away our freedoms and rights. She made the argument, well, if they can come after me, they can come after anybody. We well, shes an extremist. And the fact that shes able to appeal to that common sentiment tells you how radicalized the Republican Party has become. Onhardwood, always a pleasure. Thank you. I want to bring Amanda Carpenter and doug hyde. Good to see both of you. Amanda, you have been getting a lot of attention for things you have been saying on this show and im sure in other places as well because you have candid about how you feel and not holding back. You have been saying for a while, its not just a few Conspiracy Theorists. This is the Republican Party now and theyre fine with it. Todays vote confirms just how right. You are yay. These are things i dont want to be right about. I will say, theres a sense of theres a little bit more fight than there was when donald trump was president in pushing back on this movement, but heres the conflict. Say, you know, a never trumper like me. Say theres a small never trump faction within the party. There was the hope that after donald trump left office, things would reset and maybe go back to normal. But thats just not the case. The Republican Party is largely clinging to trumpism in the way that he defined his candidacy, his campaigns with politically driven lies, okay . And so whether its Marjorie Taylor greene today or whats going to happen in the senate with impeachment next week, the party has to confront these politically driven lies. And so far, i feel like they have been hiding behind these fake argument about procedure, whether its constitutionality we dont like the democrats stripped a republican of her committee assignment. But this is coming. Future republicans are not going say, where were republicans on whether or not donald trump was convicted on a former president . Theyre going to say, are you guys still doing all this lying stuff about elections . Like, that is coming, and that is the central thing why were in this mess. Doug, listen, amandas a amanda, youre still a republican, right . Im still the same person. Have the same ideas. Im just wondering because people said, im not a democrat but no longer identify as a republican. I dont have, like, a republican tattoo im getting removed or anything. All right, got it. Doug, how do you feel as a member of the Republican Party tonight . A party that overwhelmingly gave their approval to a woman who harass School Shooting survivors . I tweeted earlier in the day i was say ashamed for my countrd congress. You have a member of congress saying i believe 9 11 happened, School Shootings are real i think the republican arguments on process are fine, except, well, assassination is more important than dealing with precedent and process. And the reality for republicans, which they should remember is id say two things. One, we know were going see and hear more from Marjory Greene taylor what she said in the past and future. Two, i didnt have to hope that amanda did once donald trump went away things would get better buzz this predated donald trump. To me, donald trump was as much a cause as a symptom. To me it goes back to the primary problems republicans face. I suffered through that when i worked for eric kanter. That happened before donald trump. So yes, we are somewhat transitioning to a posttrump phase, but when youve set the forest on fire you have a lot of trees that are smoldering and thats the problem for the party. Amandas a Glass Halfful kind of woman. I find it interesting when its a house vote, ten republicans vote to impeach trump, 11 vote to remove greene. But when its a secret vote, 145 members vote to keep liz cheney in leadership. How do you explain this difference . Very easy it goes down to voters and how theyre scared of primary politics. When i was in politics we referred to this as the vote no hope yes politics. They would vote no, tell you i know this is a good bill and i should support it but ill get hurt in my district. This happened time and time again on things that werent but members feel so fearful of their primary politics theyre worried about losing in the spring and summer, not in the fall. Sounds like republicans are in the sunken place right now. Or i dont know hostages. Its weird. Amanda, is this about keeping trump happy . We know hes been calling members of congress. Hes even summoned Kevin Mccarthy to florida. You say is it making trump happy . Yeah. Im sure he likes the fact he has such influence and control over the party when hes not even there. But i think the Biggest Development that will be happening, honestly, is what happens to fox news and how theyre held responsible for the big election lies that were told. Because the biggest influencer in republican politics is the Conservative Media Complex that drives a lot of this, you know, from the qanon chat boards to facebook groups to fox news and the content streams. Like, that has more influence in the primaries than probably any other factor, more than donald trump. And so when the new lawsuit that was filed against fox talk about how they invented a villain out of thin air because they needed to have a good versus evil narrative i looked at that and went, bingo. Thats the fear factor that drives republican politics. Whatever happens, if theres a way those people who have told those lies, pedalled those conflicts are held responsible, that would have much more influence than donald trump could ever hope to have. Its interest. When i saw that cross the wire, i thought about, you know, the everything trump touches dies. Shes gotten people in trouble. This lawsuit is enormous. All those people who followed him and spread those conspiracy theories, its because they followed that whackiness. Doug, 109 republicans are now on record voting for Marjorie Taylor greene. Democrats are gleeful of this ahead of 2022. Should they be in what are the implications here . Maybe politically gleeful but on substance, not gleeful, because obviously its terrible topics of what she said and will continue to say, most likely. But politically democrats learned from recent history. Todd aiken, Richard Murdoch cost us not just two senate seats but allowed republicans to be tagged throughout the country as being antiwoman and have to answer questions they didnt want to answer about. Ma Marjorie Taylor greene could be the face of republicans in 2022. You dont want to be talking about greene. You want to talk about your issues what you want to do. Youre going to be saddled by this and thats a real problem for republicans moving forward. Always appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you. Congressman jamie raskin, impeachment manager responding to the president s refusal to testify next week. Raskin says trumps immediate refusal to testify speaks volumes and so joining me now, cnn legal analyst elie honig. Good evening, don. Its a bold move by democrats. Whats the strategy here . Indeed. Heres why its such a bold move. Because theyre calling out Donald Trumps bluster. We know donald trump loves to talk tough, right . In twitter, back in the ol days when he had twitter. What the house impeachment manager said today is, you want to keep talking tough . Come to the senate, put your hand on the bible and take an oath. In his four years in office, he had a lot of things to say, but he never testified under oath. Now i think theyre showing that donald trump is not willing to back up his bluster. Lets talk about the lawsuit filed today by the Voting Company smartmatic. Theyre accusing them of lying about the company by pushing the big lie that the election was stolen. I want to read from this filing. It says, they need a villain. They needed someone to blame. They needed someone whom they could get others to hate without any true villain, defendants invented one. Defendants decided to make smartmatic the villain in their story. What do you make of their case . Is it a strong one . It is, don. This is a real case. Look, what they have to show, smartmatic, is that fox news and other defendants made false statements and made them knowing they were false or reckless as a falsity. I think the reason you heard the theory you just read is because theyre trying to explain why. Whats in it for fox . Why would fox and anchors there knowingly make these false statements . Well, because they want a narrative, they want a villain. Theres consequences for that. This is a serious lawsuit. Theyre going to get into discovery. Smartmatics is going to get to see what was happening behind the scenes at fox, who knew what, what they were saying about, should we do this . Is this false . This is going to be ugly for fox. Wow. I want you to listen to some of what was said on fox. Here it is. Lets turn to smartmatic and dominion are they or are they not linked . Oh, theyre definitely linked. I would call hem inextricably intertwined. The way it works the votes can be changed on the ground as they come in. President trumps lead was so great at that point they had to stop the Vote Counting and come in and back fill the votes. They had to change the results. Theyre using a Venezuelan Company as the vote counter, which is known for changing votes and also known to have the most insecure computers in this business. Rudy, were going to have to because they want to cheat. Hmm. Okay. Thats just some of it, right . That was fox business. A spokesperson for fox tells cnn, we are proud of our 2020 election coverage, and well vigorously defend this meritless lawsuit in court. I want to know what you think of that statement and because the company says, smartmatic says that all that is demonstrably false and fox was motivated by ratings. So how much trouble what do you think of foxs statement . Defend away if youre fox. Youre going to have to defend those statements that we just heard. Rudy and Sidney Powell and lowe dobbs saying. I dont think they can. Unless they know something the fbi and department of the Homeland Security and 60 judges around the country dont know, theyre not going to be able to defend those. At this time unifying team were about to see with impeachment, smartmatic lawsuit, the Marjorie Taylor greene stuff, is there just has to be such a thing as truth. If repeat it enough times if youre strident enough. That to me is the unifying theme. There is some concept of objective truth. Elie honig, appreciate you joining us. You might think Marjorie Taylor greene would lie low after getting here wrist slapped today. Nope. Were going to tell you what shes teasing tomorrow as her party turns into the q trumpliccens. Republicans have yet to offer a clear and unambiguous declaration that violence is unacceptable and has no place that their ranks. And ive heard too much about process and not enough about accountability. 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I think doug hit it on the head look, youve got an awful lot of members there that wish the trajectory of the Republican Party were different, but it is what it is, and theyre going to do what they need to do to hold on to their seats to do what they can to hold on to power and to think that if theyre somehow able to come to keep a donald trump base motivated and within their ranks that they can reclaim a majority in the house and senate. And the question, obviously, to ask is, at what cost . These arent just words. This isnt just comments that somebody made that you have a member of congress that glorified assassination and will not apologize. She distanced herself from the comments, but she will not apologize. And i think if you think of it that way, about what it means to be a representative of the united states, to be able the travel internationally and wear that badge of honor of representing the people of this country and havingv somebody do something in our name your name and my name and not be willing to say, you know what . Shouldnt try to entice assassination. Yeah. I dont know. Yeah, but on top of that, she is fundraising off of a house vote to remove her from committees. Shes teasing a Press Conference tomorrow. Doesnt seem remotely contrite. Does it bother you shes Making A Mockery of what it means to serve in the congress . Of course. I was on awith a number of my former colleagues today, and even republicans i served with. For those democrats, anybody who thinks that anyone is taking any joy out of this, no one is. No democrat is celebrating having to remove a sitting member of congress from committee. No one feels like you have a choice. Youve got Republican Leadership that has decided not to do this. And given that fact, what else are we supposed to do . What are my former colleagues supposed to do . For those that say, hey, it sets a precedent, yes, it might be a challenging precedent there, but the precedent is as a sitting member of congress you should not promote assassination, and if you do, there will be accountability . I dont know, seems like a low bar to enforce and republicans those not to. Indeed. I also want to get your take on president bidens Foreign Policy speech today. Take a listen and well talk. America is back. Diplomacy is back. At the center of our Foreign Policy. American alliances are our greatest asset, and leading with diplomacy means Standing Shoulder to shoulder with our allies and key partners once again. Look, i think its an important question here how difficult is it going to be to repair the u. S. Stand eiging ab, especially as a month ago the world watches in horror as americans attacked our own capitol . Don, i dont think you can underestimate the scope of the challenge before the Biden Administration. The state Department Needs revitalization, needs to bring a lot of folks

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