Today on inside politics, more problems, more money. Donald trumps donors foot an enormous legal bill and the trump coconspirator accused of trying to destroy evidence for the boss sees the inside of a federal court. The polls. All of them. All for donald trump. Republican voters fall in line behind the frontrunner as ron desantis reasons for running appear to fall flat. And the president corrects how he counts. Joe biden acknowledges his Seventh Grandchild for the first time and now he hopes it returns to being a private matter. Im dana bash. Lets go behind the headlines and inside politics. Up first, Saving America or saving his skin. Today we see on paper how much money from donors donald trump spent on legal bills. Sources put that number north of 40 million for his own defense and the defense of those who are sticking with him. This morning, cnn cameras captured the glimpse of one of those individuals Carlos De Oliveira, the man federal prosecutors say schemed with mr. Trump and walt nauta to shield evidence from federal investigators. The maralago Property Manager made his first appearance inside a federal court and were going to start there in South Florida where randi kaye is posted. What did we see this morning, randi . Reporter well, dana, this was our first look at Carlos De Oliveira as he entered into the courthouse here just behind me. He was wearing a Navy Blue Suit and a tie. He went inside with his lawyer john irving who was here from washington, d. C. When he stood it at the lectern to address the judge, he said good morning, and then the judge proceeded to lay out the charges that he is facing. He said he understood the charges, he understood that he had a right to remain silent and speak to a lawyer. Then they went on to talk about a bond. The judge went on to set a 100,000 what they call a personal signature bond so he doesnt have to pay it, but he doesnt have to stay behind bars right now. He was asked, dana, about a passport. He says he does have a u. S. Passport, but its expired. Still, the judge told him that he had to turn that over within 48 hours. He was told he cant leave South Florida without permission. The area of South Florida. And then he was also given a witness list of the list of government witnesses, and he was informed that he cannot speak to those witnesses that are on that that have been identified as witnesses for the government. I can tell you he did not enter a plea. That will take place on august 10th. There is going to be an actual arraignment on august 10th in fort pierce, florida. He did not have a florida barred attorney, so he couldnt enter a plea. He needs somebody who could practice law in the state of florida to do that. That will happen on august 10. All eyes are watching this, because as we know, his case is pushed back, his arraignment is pushed back, which could impact Donald Trumps case when it comes to the maralago documents and we, of course, want to see whether or not he would go to trial before election day, certainly something a lot of people are watching. Dana . Thank you so much. Not having an attorney present, delaying things, that sounds familiar at this point in terms of tactics. Yeah. Thanks. Also today a ninepage dressing down from a judge to Donald Trumps legal team, an atlanta judge told mr. Trump he will not intervene in any way right now admonishing trumps lawyers for asking that he play a, quote, guessing game. Cnns sara murray is in atlanta. Explain more what this ruling was and what it means . Reporter well, it really is a smack down from Fulton County judge. The trump team wanted fani willis disqualified from overseeing the case and wanted the evidence the special grand jury collected. They wanted it thrown out and not going to do that. Ear hes heres a portiwhat he wrote. Being the subject or target of a highlycized criminal investigation Lik Unwelcomed and unpleasant experience no court has ever held that that status alone provides a basis for the courts to interfere with or halt the investigation. Now part of the trump team push is trying to get mcburnry in tossed off, the judge who ruled today, another judge set a hearing on august 10th on that matter so well see if that hearing goes forward or if this is just the final word we get before we head into potential indictments. That is, of course, the obvious question. Any tea leaves youre able to read down there in georgia about when and if that could happen . Well, were officially in the window for when she could potentially announce indictments, Security Precautions are being taken. I still think were more like a week or two away, rather than a day or two away. But our affiliate here in georgia caught up with fani willis over the weekend at a backtoschool event and she was very clear even though people may not like the decisions shes come to at the end of this investigation, shes ready to go. Take a listen. Some people may not be happy with the decisions that i am making and sometimes when people are unhappy they act in a way that could create harm. The work is accomplished. Weve been working for 2 1 2 years and were ready to go. Reporter and again, willis still not tipping her hand on whether she plans to charge former President Donald Trump or his allies or all of them together, but we should get an answer in the coming weeks. Okay. Thank you so much, sara murray, for the reporting. Here with me, cnns evan perez, cnns Kristen Holmes and former prosecutor elliott williams. Evan, am i being too cynical in my expression of skepticism that it de oliveira went down there without a floridabased attorney, maybe it wasnt an accident, because it automatically delays things . It is very hard to find lawyers in florida. Very difficult. We saw we saw walt nauta, you know, eat up essentially a month. Exactly. In between the indictment and the time he was finally brought for arraignment. Today the judge pushed back when de oliveiras attorney asked for a hearing some it time at the end of august, and he said no, lets work on august 10th. So every day of delay counts. Every bit of it will add up. The former president s overall goal has made it very clear is to have this happen until wait until after the election to actually go to trial. Well see whether the judge, judge cannon, is going to be tolerant of this, but we know what the strategy is. And inside the substance of this is, of course, what we learned late last week about the superseding indictment alleging that the former president had this individual, wanted this individual to delete security footage. That showed that he allegedly had documents that he wasnt supposed to have. Over the weekend, yesterday, the former president did one of those all capsts, maralago Security Tapes were not deleted. I never told anybody to delete them. Decode that in legal speak. Well, youre wrong in legal speak because hes saying that he seems to be saying that because the act of deletion wasnt completed theres no crime. The charges say inducing another person to obstruct footage and delete footage is a crime and conspiring with others to obstruct justice in the form of deleting Video Footage is a crime. You dont have to have deleted the footage. If i say delete that footage so Law Enforcement cant have access to it and take steps towards doing it, thats a crime even if the footage doesnt get deleted. What if he says it in a subtle way the people who know him know what hes staying. Its harder to prove but provable in court. They appear to have a witness, trump employee number four, as listed in the indictment, who seems to be ready to testify, we understood fully what the president was asking us to do. You had some reporting over the weekend about how the former president is paying r not only his legal fees but more importtlthe legal feesf those like the aide who went into the courthouse in florida today talking about the Legal Defense fund that he is creating. Its striking separate from the Legal Defense fund, how much money, political donors, have given to his Political Campaign and how much of that he has used to help keep himself and the people around him out of jail. Yeah. Actually that number has gone up in terms of the structure that they had for fundraising. At the beginning of the campaign, they were donating, you know, of the dollar, 1 went to the Save America Pac, which is what foots these legal bills and 99 of the dollar went to the campaign. Quietly they changed the fundraising structure, so 10 went to Save America Pac and 90 went to the campaign. Theyll thats a big number there. I will say when i talk to the political advisors, they say the donors know what theyre getting into. They know donald trump, and he has legal issues and this money could be going toward that. Its not illegal. Its not illegal and they dont think its going to dry up because all of a sudden theyre going to be outraged learning these are going towards legal bills. 40 million is an enormous amount of money, and again, this isnt just for his bills but these associates, various investigations, essentially swept up in this, and talk about this maralago case and mentioned this, both of his codefendants have lawyers who have been paid enormous amounts of money from the state of america pac. That is what they are footing the bill with his. Prosecutors noticed on page 31 of the indictment, they mention this signal encrypted text chain where people are wondering where whether Carlos De Oliveira is loyal and the prosecutors describe the former president gets on the phone with de oliveira and says im going to pay for your lawyer. Prosecutors are paying attention. They did not charge it in that document, in the new indictment, but you can tell, that it is something thats on their mind, its probably something that they can bring up at trial and the question is, is it something that they want to charge, perhaps in the new indictment . Its mindbending, the sort of layers to this. By that i mean, were talking about the former president using political donations for the defense fund. We were talking among our team this morning about the fact if you layer that on top of the notion that the special counsel, part of what theyre looking at is whether or not the i guess postcandidate donald trump was trying to get donors to give, to push an election lie, knowing that it was a lie . Right. That second part is if he is misrepresenting how he is using peoples money, that itself can be a crime in the form of mail or wire fraud. If you say i am going to use this money to pay for a campaign bus and pay for lawyers, then, of course and once you click send on the email it becomes wire fraud. To kristens point its not illegal because people kind of know what theyre getting into, but there is a fine line. Because we cant say this enough, we say this all the time, but people might get sick of it, were going to say it, trump legal, trump political, completely and totally intertwined and that was evident again listening to the former president on the Campaign Trail over the weekend in erie, pennsylvania. Beating biden by a lot and they want to try to demean and hurt us, all of us. You know, theyre not indicting me. Theyre indicting you. I just happen to be standing in their way. Thats all it is. Its not about me, its all all of you. That is probably one of his most potent arguments as you go around with him, isnt it . It is. It works. When we look at the different various cases and investigations and compare that to whats going on in the house with hunter biden and those investigations, we see clear differences. When donald trump standis up an faces the crowd and outlines these things as fundamentally unfair and one person is getting a plea deal, and im not getting a plea deal, people in the audience believe what he is saying. They are looking at this at face value, not looking at the nuance and what these investigations mean. People are angry. Theres always been a little bit of resentment when it comes to republicans and the feeling of the deep state or elitists are out to get them, but its been intensified with donald trump, as we saw in 2016, and more intensified as these investigations have continued. Okay. Thank you so much, everybody, for your reporting and insight. Up next, new data to support the current republican reality. It is donald trump and then everyone else way behind. Stay with us. 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We cannot be satisfied with simply managing this decline a little bit better than the democrats. The elites in this country have failed time and again. Theyve imposed policies that have proven shortsighted and counter productive. That is part of desantis move to roll out a new economic plan today. Oes it as he finds himself looking way up at Donald Trump NewNational Poll numbers show more than half of likely republican primary voters say the former president is r first choice. That is 37 points, 37 points, ahead of ron desantiho is, again,ing to regain mo as he falls further hind trump and closer to the rest of the republican pack. The Florida Governor is at 17 , the next five highest polling candidates trail in the single digits. Joining me now is cnns manu raju, Laura Barone Lopez and Kristen Holmes is still at the table. I mean, those numbers are absolutely striking. They are. When you look at what donald trump is facing in terms of these legal issues that continue to mount, this is what is keeping them going and keeping them in the fight and also really giving them the momentum to continue to say that this is election interference and that this is going to affect the 2024 election. He is the frontrunner, and he remains the frontrunner. That is why they feel like they have the kind of wind under their sails, even though, obviously, this is draining them financially. They do not want to be spending their time on this. When you see those numbers they feel they have the backing of a majority of the Republican Party right now so that they can say this is going to impact the election. It just underscores that no one has figured out how to take on donald trump. Ron desantis for so much of the campaign has tried to run to Donald Trumps right. This really is not much room from Donald Trumps right. A lot of voters supported him because they liked his policies, but the argument that has not been really made effectively by the opponents is the electability argument. That is what really concerns so Many Republican voters that donald trump could get nominated and use a general election, cost him the house and senate. Theyre not making that argument effectively. Hardly any discussion about all the ammunition in the indictments to go after trump. Theyre siding with trumps argument he is being unfairly targeted here. Youre seeing an uncertainty among the republican field about how to go after him. Im glad you brought up the electability questn. That is one of the many data points inside this poll, the cross tabs as they like to say in the biz, that kind of i surprising because if you look at get things done, fo trump, desantis 22 , able to beat joe biden, electability, 58 of rublicans say he can beat joe biden when the next person behind m way behind him, 30 points behind him, is ron desantis. Also by the way, just to kp thatp there, for fun, why not, 54 and desantis only 16 think hes fun. Its the electability is the key question for a lot of republicans and the people in this poll think they will beat him. Republican voters think trump would be great in a rematch against President Biden, despite the fact that ron desantis is really trying to and other republicans that are running against the former president , are trying to say that he cant possibly beat biden with all of these legal issues and this legal peril looming over him, but one thing i think that was also striking in the poll