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CNNW CNN July 4, 2024

Washington, d. C. Im fredricka whitfield. We begin this morning with the apocalyptic destruction in hawaii, the deadliest National Disaster in state history. At least 80 people are dead. And thousands more displaced from the wildfires. And now, rescue crews are bringing in cadaver dogs to help search what is left of burned buildings. Devastation from the lahaina fire, costing an estimated 5. 5 billion am in mountainy county. One lawmaker tells cnn the statement unestimated the possibility of wildfires and failed to plan for emergency issues with the government alert center. The governor has looked at a comprehensive review of the states response all of this developing as we are seeing more videos of harrowing escapes. We got to walk somewhere. Over there. By the beach. [ bleep ]. No, no, no not like this. Not like this. No. [ bleep ]. Oh, my gosh. I mean that family did eventually make it to an evacuation shelter, after taking refuge on rocks, by the ocean. Lets go now to cnns mike valero on maui. What is the latest you are hearing from officials on how to proceed from here . Fredericka, good morning. We are standing in the middle of a shutdown highway. This is where scores of motorists, as we zoom in to the darkness here, have been waiting overnight, sleeping in their cars, trucks, suvs, for hours. To get back into lahaina. This is the main way in and out of the Disaster Zone that was opened briefly yesterday, but shut down when it was opened from noon to 4 00 p. M. How long you have been waiting here . Since 4 00 yesterday afternoon. All of these vehicles have been waiting. We have been theres people sleeping. This is not safe. Whatever theyre doing youre one of them why yes, were trying to get supplies and come back. They should escort us back, we have families, kids, and we have [ bleep ] going on and i have been in Disaster Zones and this is bull maam, we will catch up with you later. So just one, again, of the scores of people who are here, the plan, with so many people waiting for, is for this entry point right over here to come back open, 6 00 a. M. Local time, so just in about about an hour, to check to see what is left of their homes, and on that front, we have new video that came in from the national guard, and you can see dozens and dozens of troops, going through the wreckage of what is left, and we have noticed in some of the flames that troops have started to Spray Paint Xs on what is left of, you know, concrete, wooden structures, to mark that the interiors of buildings have been searched. But you know, fredricka, as we started the broadcast a couple of minutes ago, you noticed the latest figures that we have from the Pacific Disaster Center and from fema, the first real projected total of what it could cost to rebuild lahaina, and the surrounding areas, 5. 5billion dollars, 2,207 structures damaged or destroyed. 4,500 people is the potential number of citizens here across maui who will need to be sheltered. I would say, you know, it is certainly fair to characterize the mood here, as one of extreme anxiety, and to that note, we also have some video in the control room of just before sunset yesterday, there was another brush fire that started off, that sparked north of lahaina, and it caused an evacuation order. Thankfully we were able to report that it is 100 contained, but fredricka, it broke out near a center that was scheduled to distribute free fuel to people who were running out of gas. Who are living in their cars right now. And because of that brush fire, just north of the Disaster Zone, that giveaway that was scheduled for today is shut down, there are no plans to reopen it. So again, a lot of uncertainty, were going to keep you posted. We will be here for the next several hours, but we are hoping to get so many of these cars and families back into lahaina, where it is safe, just to see s left, so they can decide to do, or can decide what they can do next in the days ahead. Fred . Yes, lots of uncertainty, lots of frustration, exhibited by the woman that approached you there, and mike, i know youre anxious to talk with her again and see what the rest of her, and others experiences have been like. Thank you very much. We will check back with you. Joining me now is a representative with the hawaii tourism authority. So good to see you again. Sadly under these circumstances. You and i spoke last december, during the mauna loa eruption. And we have just seen and heard from the woman who approached our reporter, mike, a lot of frustration, you know, and theres still so much more uncertainty, understandably, because of these circumstances. But what are you hearing from people you know on maui, and what are the frustrations that theyve been expressing to you . Well, thanks for that, fredricka, good to talk to you again, and unfortunately, under these circumstances. Theres lots of frustration, a lot of that frustration is the difficulty in communication, and when you lose power, when you lose connectivity, cell phone connectivity, over such a large area, theres always going to be a thirst for information, and so its really difficult to be patient in times like this, but lots of people are working really hard to help those in, gets out if they need to, and to make sure whatever area is opened up can be done safely. What have you heard specifically from people, friends, loved ones, colleagues, that are on maui, and what theyve been experiencing . You know, its difficult to hear a lot of the on the ground observations. We see bits and pieces here and there. Our focus here has been helping visitors get out. And the reason for that focus, you know, in our case, the reason for our assignment to that mission is to alleviate the pressure on the community, alleviate the pressure on residents, alleviate the traffic, so that attention and resources can be focused on where it needs to be, on helping the residents recover. Now, youre joining us from oahu, right . The island of oahu, right . Yes. Where honolulu is. And so you are also just a wealth of knowledge of the cultural and historical significance of all of the islands. I remember when we last spoke in december, you so eloquently helped express to people, you know, so much that is acrssay credit there in hawaii. For this town of lahaina, so much loss to these wildfires, homes, businesses, but it is a place of so much historical significance. A place of burial for hawaiian kings, royalty, talk to me about the unimaginable devastation and the impact on the history there, and the stories of many generations. Sure, you know, many have characterized lahaina in the coverage of the fires as a tourist mecca, or a tourist destination, and it is certainly attracting the interest and the love of many, many people, and as you said, theres a deep history, lahaina is a former capital of the Hawaiian Kingdom for about 50 years. The capital of mauis leaders for long before that. The former, the royal compound, surrounded by wetlands, home to some of the very powerful spirits of maui, and its important to recall all of that, and it is also important to keep first and foremost in mind what the families of the area are going through. Because it is really in the families and in the hearts of the residents of those places that those kinds of stories, those kinds of histories live, and so our hearts, our prayers, all of our thoughts are with those families who have lost loved ones, who have lost their homes, who have lost businesses, livelihoods, lifestyles, it is just devastating. It is devastating for those who have survived it, there is that push and pull, right, of leaving, because there is so much destruction, but then it is very difficult for many to leave because they feel like theyre abandoning, you know, places they know, that they cherish, so what has that been like as far as you know, in terms of in honolulu, there is emergency assistant centers, there are, you know, planes that have been landing empty, to help get people out, but talk to me about how it is perhaps very difficult to get some people to relocate, even though they have lost everything, or people who want to go see what might remain, talk to me about that struggle that youre seeing in people there. Its absolutely difficult. And we heard it in the resident who was talking to mike. We saw mike when he first landed in hawaii, he came to the Hawaii Convention center first, we talked to him then, but there is so much emotion, and i understand it, and people want to go and see, it is a challenge to move that many people through an area thats been devastated the way that lahaina has. I mean officials are asking for patience. I understand that is something that is in short supply. Its when you have something that devastating, theres lots of unknowns. You know, we think about electrical wires around, we think about some of the hazardous materials, people keeping their homes, they live in the homes, they were droyed and what happens to all of that, lots of unknowns and safety is always going to be important. Very frustrating, of course, its hard to find the right answers for all of the predicaments, problems, and challenges. Thank you so much for being with us again. Appreciate it. Mahala. For more information on how you can help Hawaii Wildfire Victims go to cnn. Com impact or text hawaii to 707070, to donate. To washington now. Where a u. S. District judge has issued a protective order barring a former president from publicly disclosing any Sensitive Information about the election interference case. Cnns Jessica Schneider has details. The case against donald trump in washington, d. C. Is moving rapidly, and the judge in this case is really being firm on what trump and his legal team can and cannot disclose about this case to the public. So judge issued a protective order, and it lays out that trump and his team cannot disclose any Sensitive Information, given to them, during the discovery process. So that includes material about the grand jury, or search warrants, and she also issued several warnings to trump, she noted that even though hes running a Political Campaign, he still has to, in her words, yield to the administration of justice. And she said, that means that his political speech has to be somewhat limited, and that is how it is going to be, and she said she is going to be carefully scrutinizing statements from trump and his team, she says anything that can be sberpinterpreted to be intimidating to witnesses or prejudicial to potential jurors, it can threaten the whole process in this case. Under all of these terms, prosecutors say they are prepared to begin handing over material immediately. That includes 11. 6 million pages of documents. It includes hundreds of recordings of witness interviews. Which trump of course will be prohibited from disclosing publicly. And now, we will see how quickly this case will go to trial. The prosecution has already said they want it to start january 2nd. Trumps legal team has to propose their start date sometime next week. They will likely propose it after the election in 2024. But really, at the rate the judge is moving, me shiet want to move closer to the prosecutions proposed january 2024 date, so we will see. Jessica schneider, cnn, washington. Lets talk more about all of this with former federal prosecutor and Robert Muellers former special assistant at the department of justice, michael zeldin. Also the host of that said podcast. Trump is a criminal defendant. And therefore, the court has a right to limit his speech, if He Intimidates or harasses witnesses. So what happens if trump completely ignores the judges order . Ultimately, the Death Sentence for him is that his probation, while out on bail here, will be revoked, and there will be a step back, meaning he will be jailed, that is the ultimate weapon that the judge has. I think though, that she will keep calling them back in, and giving them warnings, and imposing gag orders and other intermediate steps, but ultimately, trumps liberty is in his own hands. If he elects to continue to thwart the rules that the judge sets in place, she has the authority to step him back. And we just saw that happen in another case recently. Right. We did indeed. And there was no hesitation in that. A judge said, the judge said in this case called the Political Campaign his day job. How seriously will the campaign be considered in the context of a trial . We know a date has been set. But we also note there is always wiggle room with that. How will the Campaign Trail Impact the ultimate selection of trial dates . According to the judge, not at all. She is determined to keep politics out of this. And his day job, if you will, running for president , is not her concern. Her concern is the orderly administration of justice, and she is going to adhere to a Trial Schedule that is consistent with the way in which trials are ordinarily held in the district of columbia, federal courts. And what she said to trumps lawyers, which is maybe the ultimate threat, is she said if you keep it up, ill be forced to move the trial date up closer, rather than further away. Their strategy is delay, delay, delay. And her idea is if you keep tup, we will have a trial earlier. Take your choice. The judge has the discretion to do that. Essentially use it as a threat or leverage that this court is taking this very seriously, this case. Or any case. Exactly. Exactly. What she is saying i want to make sure we have witnesses protected, and we have an honest jury pool here, and one that is not tainted, and if your constant writings on social media interfere with that, i will no choice but to move this up closer to limit the impact of Witness Interference or jury tampering. Stick around, michael zeldin. We have more to talk about straight ahead. Also still to come, Shuttle Diplomacy. How u. S. 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