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A new indictment against donald trump could come in the next two days. A grand jury has just arrived at a georgia courthouse, cnn has an exclusive look at texts and emails that could be crucial evidence. The grim Reality Setting in on the island the maui, 96 people have been killed in the fires so far and it still could rise even more as crews are painstakingly making their way through the burn areas. Today six white former Mississippi Police officers are due in court facing several State Charges after being accused of torturing two black men in a racist assault. Im sara sidner with kate bolduan and john berman. This is cnn news central. So this morning the beginning of what could be a twoday stretch that could bring a new indictment against donald trump for trying to overturn the election. This is the case in georgia that appears this case could ensnare the greatest number of people yet and create some of the most complicated problems for trump if convicted. He would not be able to pardon himself even if elected president. This morning cnn has exclusive reporting that reveals some of the evidence against him. Sources say Fulton County District Attorney fani willis has texts messages and emails that directly link trumps inner circle to a Georgia Voting system breach. She is presenting to a grand jury that meets only mondays and tuesdays and we know tomorrow two key witnesses are set to testify. It does seem possible that charges could come as early as tomorrow. Security is high outside the courthouse. Trump himself who denies any wrongdoing has said he will likely be arrested. Cnns sara murray is live outside the courthouse this morning, which will see a lot of activity in the next two days, sara. Reporter thats right. What were really seeing are the next steps of a two and a half year Criminal Investigation that Fulton County District Attorney fani willis has been presiding over. She is likely to begin presenting evidence before the grand jury today. It could take up to two days for her to make her presentation and we are told shes going to seek charges against more than a dozen individuals related to this case. Again, into efforts by donald trump as well as a number of his allies to try to overturn the 2020 president ial election in georgia, an investigation that includes that breach you were talking about, that includes fake electors, that includes trumps infamous phone call to Georgia Secretary Of State brad raffensperger. Over the weekend donald trump was asked about his mounting legal problems in this case. Here is what he had to say. Is there any chance you would take a plea deal . We did nothing wrong. We dont ever take we dont take plea deals. Its a wise guy question. Mr. Wise guy. We dont take plea deals because i did nothing wrong. Its called election interference. Do you know what that is . Because this is these indictments are brought out by cant even put two sentences together. Reporter now, all of this is happening as my colleague zach cohen and i are learning that investigators in this case have Text Messages and emails that link members of trumps team with this Voting Systems breach that happened in rural Coffee County, georgia. There was this Ring Invitation to access the countys system from a local official Misty Hampton that made its way to a number of folks working with donald trump on his postelection legal efforts. People like katherine frees and sidney powell. Some of the Text Messages, this comes from sullivan strickler, a firm hoo ird to access the Voting Testimonies in Coffee County. An employee says, just landed back in d. C. With the mayor, an apparent reference to mayor giuliani. Huge things starting to come together. The person goes on to say, most immediately, we were just granted access by written invitation to Coffee Countys systems. Yay. When i talked to giuliani attorney they insisted Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with the Coffee County breach but we know he is a target in this investigation and one of the people who could potentially face charges when they are anno announced. Joe biden upon by 11,779 votes, that was the number trump you could hear here on the phone call asks the Secretary Of State for more votes than that. Fulton county is where this grand jury is hearing, you can see Fulton County is a county that is overwhelmingly blue. Joe biden won this county by nearly 250,000 votes. And then Coffee County, which sara murray was talking about right there, where the Text Messages and emails come from in the southern part of the state, a very red county, but look how few people actually live there. Youre dealing with 14, 15,000 voters total, yet the Text Messages and emails from there could prove crucial in this investigation. Just one piece of trivia, next to Coffee County, if you are looking for breakfast themes, is bacon county. Beat that, kate. Im just looking for egg county, thats all i need. No. John, thank you so much. Joining us now to talk about the legal ramifications here cnns senior legal analyst elie honig. Lets get back to some of sara murrays Great Reporting that prosecutors are in possession of Text Messages and emails directly connecting members of Donald Trumps legal team to this Coffee County breach. What kind of evidence is this . Its the kind of evidence prosecutors love because its irrefutable. You have a text, email, show it to the jury. You dont need some eyewitness explaining what they may or may not remember or have seen or heard. The other thing i think prosecutors will find valuable is its concrete action. Theres arguments about, well, donald trump he made a phone call, he asked somebody to do something. Is that protected speech . Does that cross the line into criminality . Whatever that may be, when you are actually without authority accessing voting machines, thats clearly over the line of criminality. It went beyond a conversation of wouldnt this be great if we could find these things in Coffee County. It was far beyond that. The question is who is implicated. Clearly who is on the other end of those texts is implicated. How high does it go . That is one of my questions which is how could this does this fit into what is expected to be coming with a focus on rico and racketeering charges . Its an interesting example of why racketeering charges may make sense tear. Racketeering basically means you have a group of individuals organized who commit a series of crimes together that are interconnected. You dont necessarily have to show that every single individual was a part of every single crime, but that this was essentially an ongoing criminal concern. So evidence like this, even if you cant necessarily directly draw, lets say, donald trump into it, you can still argue that its part of the Overarching Racketeering Scheme here. We are talking about kind of i will call it a web or a net or how wide it eventually is cast. The former Lieutenant Governor geoff duncan, he have received notice he will be testifying tomorrow, he has received notice with regard to all of this investigation. I want to play for you his take from this weekend on how he sees this as different, this Potential Indictment is different from others. I think the interesting part to this indictment thats different than the others is that theres heavy signaling theres going to be 12 plus coconspirators and these folks dont have the same level of loyalty they had to donald trump when he was trying to change the election outcome in 2020. So its going to be interesting to see which way they go. These are serious charges that are being singled, racketeering, conspiracy, rico, these are things garnered for the mafia or the mob. Elie, what do you think of that . What hes setting up is these people are potentially ripe for flipping. I think hes right. I think geoff is definitely correct that this is going to be a bigger indictment in terms of the number of people and level of detail about what happened in georgia. Keep in mind, though, jack smith has charged georgia already as part of his federal indictment. He charges all seven states. Now, legally that doesnt mean the states cannot also charge, but i do think theres a legitimate question about what will this add . Will this be duplicative of what jack smith has or will it add detail or will it change things all together . I do think geoff is absolutely right that the more people you indict especially at lower levels thats more opportunities to flip people to get cooperators. Mentioning jack smiths investigation and now the indictment that donald trump is facing with regard to the federal charges on the 2020 election, they were just in Court On Friday getting a warning, among other things, from judge chutkan to say essentially be careful what youre saying in public, and then donald trump overnight was on social media and he went after the judge by name, went after judge tanya chutkan, citing a statement she had made during the sentencing of a January 6th Rioter and accusing her of being highly partisan, bias and unfair and saying also, quote, she obviously wants me behind bars. How does this line up with the warning that she offered literally just three days ago to avoid inflammatory language . He cant help himself. Thats not an excuse. Its outrageous. It is directly contrary to what the judge just warned him against. Now, sometimes people try to do this because theyre trying to get away from their judge. They want to say youre biased and we have had dust ups. Therefore, we need a new judge. The judge is not going to go for that. Also it has to be said these accusations by donald trump, completely unfair, completely unwarranted. She has had other january 6 cases, she has handled them properly, she has sentenced them appropriately, she has not been overturned on appeal on anything. These are outrageous comments. It will be interesting to see whether judge chutkan does anything about this and if so what. I think her perspective may be better for him to come at me than to do things that may interfere with witnesses or the jury pool. Witnesses were specifically mentioned in Court On Friday, not necessarily talk being dont go after me. Judges and prosecutors are willing to take those slings and arrows, but when you get the jurors and the witnesses involved, thats different. Good to see you. Thank you. Sara . Back to the Potential Indictment in georgia. Security is being ratcheted up way around the courthouse. Around the court orange barriers are up, streets are closed and theres an increased police presence. For weeks concerns over safety have been heightened as trump escalates his attacks against fani willis and the case. Trump multiple times calling her a racist and her investigation corrupt. Cnns Nick Valencia is closely following all of this. Nick, we see those barriers there, we see the Sheriffs Department behind you. What are you hearing from police . Reporter well, share ration i just spoke to the Fulton County Sheriffs Office this morning and they tell me there is currently no credible threat to security outside of the courthouse. That is welcomed news for a Sheriffs Department that has done a lot to prepare for the worst here. Theres been legitimate concerns of Safety Situations outside of the courthouse if only because of the explosive rhetoric coming from the former president. Fani willis has spoken about it, talking about receiving countless threats, some Credible Threats, so much so shes had to change her own personal security and also changes in security outside the Fulton County courthouse. Metal barricades went up, they join the plastic barricades, some of which are filled with water. The street in front of the courthouse is shut down to vehicle traffic. Foot traffic is still wide open. A couple weeks ago we saw a trump protester here, heralding the former president s rhetoric about this being a politically motivated investigation, about racist fani willis being a racist. Thats the only protester in the last two weeks we have seen here really come out and make a statement other than that the streets really are quiet, just foot traffic in downtown l. A. And i want to emphasize what we heard this morning, the good news from the Fulton County Sheriffs Office is there are no Credible Threats outside of the court but say they are ready for anything. 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