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United states and all around the world. I am rosemary church. A historic night in the u. S. State of georgia where a grand jury has indicted primary former President Donald Trump to allegedly overturn the Election Results in 2020. The grand jury approved every indictment presented by Fulton County District Attorney, fanny willis on monday. The former u. S. President has been charged with 13 counts in the indictment, including a Racketeering Charge, 18 others have also been charged under the states racketeering laws, for allegedly joining a the outcome in favor of donald trump. Those names include several high profile individuals, from trumps me in office, uding former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, Former Trump Attorneys Rud Giuliani and john eastman,nd it Top Justice Department official, jeffrey clark, they have until 12 00 on august 25th two voluntary surrender. He is the Fulton County District Attorney breaking down the charges. Every individual charge in the indictment is charged with one count of violating georges racketeer influenced and corrupt organizations act, through participation in a criminal enterprise in Fulton County, georgia, and elsewhere, to publish the illegal goal of allowing donald j point trump to seize the president ial term of Office Beginning on January 20 2100 we have more from outside of the Fulton County courthouse here in atlanta. Reporter former President Trump is officially facing his fourth excitement. Fulton County District attorney fadi willis bringing charges against the former president , here in georgia. Donald trump was one of 19 defendants who wasnt charged as part of the case that was unsealed late on monday evening. Donald trump is facing 13 charges and again, he is one of 19 defendants who are facing a very serious Racketeering Charge in this state. Amongst the other defendants, a very prominent name was a part of Donald Trumps inner circle, like his former attorney, Rudy Giuliani and his former white house chief of staff, mark meadows. In a press conference, the Fulton County District Attorney reiterated that all of these defendants are innocent until proven guilty, she also said that she is to ask a judge to try to push this case to trial within the next six months she intends to try all of these defendants together which could make her hopes of getting this to trial speedily somewhat of a pipe dream but we will see how that goes. In a statement, trumps attorneys call the events that unfolded shocking and absurd, they went on to attack the credibility of the witnesses who appeared before the grand jury, then handed of these indictments, and now we wait to see Donald J Trump and his other codefendants turn themselves in. The District Attorney said they will have until august 25th to surrender voluntarily. Sarah murray, cnn atlanta. Trump in the supporters have been lashing out against the latest indictment, calling it a witch hunt. Earlier, former president told foxnews digital this politically inspired indictment which could have been brought three years ago was a tailored for placement right in the middle of my political campaign. In former trump attorney giuliani put out this atement. This is a front to american democracy, and does permanent irrevocable rm to our justice system. It is just the next chapter in a book the lives of the purpose of training President Trump and anyone willing to take on the ruling of the regime. From brownstein, the cnn Political Analyst and Senior Editor for the atlantic. He joins me down from des moines. Thank you for joining us. Of course, earlier this hour, we did focus on Donald Trumps legal jeopardy. With this historic fourth indictment, where he and 18 others face 41 criminal counts in the state of georgia to try to overturn the defeat. But, lets look now at the political ramifications of this and what stands out, of course, with these State Charges, is that if mr. Trump is reelected in 24, he will not be able to pardon himself, or his allies. Will that make this is most challenging indictment . And, how will he deal with this politically . That is such an important point. It does, on its face, make it the most challenging indictment because even if he is elected as president again in 2024, he cannot make it go away, even the governor of Georgia Cannot make it go away. And as i understand, im sure experts talked about it, the governor cannot unilaterally pardon him. There is at least the potential that this is a case that could transcend even a successful re election for trump and put him in legal jeopardy as president if he was reelected, and create conditions and circumstances and legal questions. We simply have not had to do with that as a country. If trump does become the president ial nominee for the gop, how do they grapple with that . A fourth indictment, and of course, as even talking, State Basement again. Love, the vast majority of republican elected officials have made the decision that they are in with trump, until the end. Whether they want to be, or not, they have concluded that they cannot alienate his people, because they are so dependent on the voters that he mobilizes. They cannot really afford to send it to him in any way or draw any line. And they tried to tow this line, putting on a front that they are actually looking as united front when thats not the case. The are not hearing from many voices they trust, the counterargument, except on the periphery of the president ial race. So, they are along for the ride. The last themselves to his mass, as they did throughout his presidency, and, there are a minority of republicans were very uneasy about that, but right now, the dominant faction in the party is the trump faction, and he has he has his argument, that all of these statements are really a way to them by going after him. This might be considered a sidebar, but how big a problem is, politically, that georges District Attorney, fadi willis, did not answer that question, about how that document leads a little bit earlier, just before the official indictment . Because, critics are already climbing all over this. Looks, its going to be republican Talking Point. Im not sure they need a Talking Point at this point. You saw kevin mccarthy, the house speaker, but again, tonight, instantly before you possibly could have read through this very detailed luminous indictment, saying that this is a radical democrat attempting to subvert, the 2024 election, tuning the charge on its head. That is going to be the Point Of View of republicans. And, that leak, however, it came about, it gives them a weapon to do that. But that did not exist it would be something else. Donald trump put out a press release, but hes trying to allege here, saying that the prosecutor is the daughter of a black panther. So, in essence, he is repeatedly accusing her of being a racist. Evan bragg, lakisha james, two other africanamerican Criminal Justice officials of being racist. Hes essentially trying to fold all of these indictments into the predominately belief amongst Republican Voters, that the real victims of discrimination in the diversifying society are basically them. Whites, christians, conservatives, and even men. And so, that messaging is well in place for Republican Voters, is a completely different russian, whether independent voters who will will decide the general lecture on board with this claim that he is the victim of a massive nationwide conspiracy of prosecutors. And, the d. A. Wants to try all 19 descendents together, within six months, which will collide with the gop primary calendar. Already, getting pretty crowded with cases. What are the likely political ramifications of that . What do you think . First, until the legal experts i told you, the legal experts are dubious, that either of those things can happen, almighty can be tried together are much less in an expeditious manner. That is the next question. The other republican candidates, by a large, revoking the strategy of 2016, they have chosen to really minimize a direct confrontation with. They are still hoping that some external event causes voters to peel away from him and that they will be there to pick up the pieces if they have not alienated the sodas by challenging trouble ready to directly. And your significant. And obviously, through the indictments, that is not happening. If anything, that is happening in the context of the republican primary. It is the open question whether any larger share of Republican Voters would react differently if a trial is going on, much less if he is convicted, and your staff to say based on evidence, that there is not a lot of chance of meaningful numbers of Republican Voters peeling away from him because of that but that is still unpredictable. With the broader electorate, a convention could be devastating. Thank you so much, for your analysis. You bet. Lets bring in shannon will, a federal prosecutor. He joins us live from washington, d. C. Happy to be here. Former President Trump indicted for historic fourth time, along with Rudy Giuliani, mark does in 16 others, criminally charged on 41 counts in connection with efforts to overturn the defeat in the 2020 election. Trump charged with 13 counts including violating the states racketeering act, what is his legal peril in this Lease Indictment his legal peril and this one is quite strong. Actually, i think that, in particular, the state Racketeering Charge is a very powerful tool. It is a little bit easier to lose than the federal one. And, both, they share both of course being able to wrap up the codefendants even if each of them have not individually done all of the 160 some odd over it acts that were part of that conspiracy dossier. That is the real danger, like giuliani, you do not have to have done each of those acts. If youve done a couple of them, you are going to get hit with that liability. In addition to that, there is also a mandatory minimum sentence, for the Racketeering Charge, if convicted. So, legal peril here is pretty grave for him. And, this counts 28, involves that recorded telephone call, that trumpet made to georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, famous of course with trump, when Trevor Pressures him to find 11,080 votes. How strong is that evidence . This was recorded and what about the strength about all of the other evidence . That one, in particular, rosemary, the audiotape that kind of evidence is compelling to a jury, because trump is speaking, usually, you do not get to hear them speak unless there is something being taken surreptitiously. As a peer trial attorney, as a perspective on that, i do not know that is necessarily the strongest single piece of evidence because people might hear it and interpret it differently saying that he is not leaning on him enough, he did not make it explicit as an ask. , the rest of the charges, when you put those together, with it, it makes a very strong case. Because the indictments are very meticulous and it lays what we call speaking indictment, it lays out the story of what happened. And when you look at all of these different pieces, knowing on, between the false electorate slates, the pressuring, as well as the fact that he is going to be known at that time, that there are no further legal versus at that time, so everyone knew that they are really trying to overturn what they already said, this is why there is no problem. When you put all those pieces together, i think it makes a very powerful tool. And the date for this trial will of course he said by the judge, but georgia d. A. Fadi willis says that she tries all 19 descendents together, and to do that within the next six months. How feasible is that . Legally, i thin practically, its not too feasible. As wrong as accurately saying, i think most people will say thats pretty ambitious. Its not impossible. But unfortunately, this is not the only case that trumpet is facing. Theyre going to be legitimate scheduling issues that he would bring for the judge and of course, now, there is a multiplier of the other 18 co defendants, each of which will have their own lawyers, their own schedules, and so, that makes it particularly hard to push such an aggressive schedule. By contrast, you will see that the second federal indictment that smith george, but, it may have been met the Streamlining Issue but charging only trump. But here, of course, you have the folks that are deserving of a good defense and had to be treated with proper due process, that can really slow things down. And commuted charge on this. The minimum prison time could be around 5 years. And because these are State Charges, not federal, trump would not be able to pardon himself or his allies , if he is ultimately elected president in 2024. Given the evidence, and the charges against trump, could you see a legal path for him to avoid conviction . There is also a legal path to avoid the conviction. At the very least, you might retreat to something you call during altercation, which is to say that you just needed to appeals one person in the jury that feels that whatever the evidence says, i just do not think it is right that a former president is being charged this way. There is all of these other people involved, for example, he could basically try to point the finger, it was these folks, who masterminded this, it wasnt my idea, i was just taking the advice of these folks. Some of them, lawyers, like giuliani, some of them do not lawyers. That is really what his Legal Defense is. But, at this point, rosemary, the Legal Defense is intertwined that he is running for president. That really does make they are one in the same. Funding included in that. And it really goes to notification issues for the jury. Because he cannot harden himself, he would really need to convince the jury that, for example, if he wins and or he is the nominee when he is tried, it takes a political persecution because after all, i did serve the country, i am trying to serve it again. So, thats the argument that i would see coming from trump. Thank you for joining us. You bet. A once vibrant oasis and Tourist Hotspot is now in ruins. It hawaiian authorities face tough questions about what led up to the devastating wildfires , and why it was so darned deadly. Our report from maui, next would. Save 50 on the sleep Number Limited Edition smart t bed. Plus, 36 month financing on select smart beds. Shshop now only at sleep number. aidyl hi, im aidyl, and i lost 90 pounds on golo. I struggled with weight loss and weight gain my entire life. With all the yyo dieting i did in the past, i wod lose 20, 30, 50 pounds just tgain them over and over again. 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During a briefing with the white house, the head of fema spoke about the tremendous sense of loss that so many people are feeling right now. We are trying to prepare for what i saw, during my time here. And nothing to prepare them to the emotional tour and the impact that was a severe. The coming days, and weeks, they are going to be tough. Theyre going to be difficult, as people process what they have lost and what the world looks like. Nearly one week after the tragedy began, it is still not clear what exactly caused the line of fire. But, the Path Of Destruction is becoming more clear. The governor said it is believed the flames traveled at an extraordinary speed, a mile or 1. 6 kilometers every single minute. Lori has me know has the report from maui. Reporter the death toll after the fires in lahaina continue to climb. It is officially now at 99 people. 99 people who have lost their lives due to this tragic incident. Devastation not just in the lineup but also about 46 miles from where we are now. This home was completely destroyed, only the chimney is left standing. People live in the neighborhood are waiting for help and they are asking questions. Why were they not warned ahead of time about the dangers ahead . I am completely heartbroken over this. Reporter Dwayne The Rock johnson, echoing a sentiment shared by many. Hope is really the most important thing that we need, and to be sensitive to those who really have lost everything. Reporter hope is a high bar for fire supporters, especially those with missing loved ones. After Recovery Teams sifted through the ashes while remnants of the fires still burned. Every day, going back to clean up, and help put fires out, it is seeming like a nightmare that we are trying to wake up for. Reporter the tragedies becoming a morbid spectacle. Her there is a Snorkeling Boat Look at the town. Give them respect people died here oh, no reporter the sirens were assignment as well fire swept through. The Attorney General has launched a real official review of what happened with those sirens, and some of the other actions that were taken. Reporter some survivors resent texts to phones without service. And in the case of fleeing, trees were falling and transfers were falling down. The power lines, a focus of new Class Action Suit filed against hawaiian electric, claiming they failed to cut power as toppled lines and i wildfires. Hawaiian electric says it will cooperate with review into exactly what happened. Now, here in this area, neighbors are still dealing with hotspots that are flaring in the surrounding grass here, and you can hear about me, there is a helicopter that is dropping off water in the surrounding areas, people here remain concerned that there might be more fires still to come. Reporting in maui. 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This marks the fourth criminal case in the campaign against trump who faces 13 counts of the indictments, which includes a Racketeering Charge for allegedly attempting to unlawfully change the outcome of georges Election Results. In a statement, trump attorneys called mondays Advance A Shocki and absurd. Among the 18 others charge and the 41 count indictment, severap lawyers including Rudy Giuliani and former white house chief of staff, mark meadows. Giuliani caused the indictment, a friend to american democracy. Fulton County District attorney fadi willis says that she will try all 19 defendants together and says that they must surrender to Georgia Authorities by august 25th here is what she had to say when asked about a trial date. What is the timetable for the trial . Is you know, in this jurisdiction, trials are set by the judges. It will be the judge that since the date of the trial. This office will be submitting a proposed scheduling order within this week, however, that will totally be at the discretion of the judge. I want to try him and be respectful for our sovereign states, we do wanted to move this case along, so we will be asking for a proposed order, that occurs, a trial date within the next six months. And, he is a research fellow, Hoover Institution and lecturer in Public Policy and stanford university. And he joins me now from jackson and wyoming. Thank you so much for being with us. You bet. Now, as a republican, what is your reaction at two this a storage fourth indictment against mr. Trump, as he faces, charges for his part in trying to overturn his loss in the state of georgia, along with a few others . This was always, in my mind, the legal case that was going to be the most troublesome for the former president. And i think that you are seeing at least, in the early reviews, of the indictment, really, the stunning amount of detail about the ways in which the former president really tried to subvert the outcome of the election, that we saw on the state of georgia. I think that it is fascinating, the degree to which not just the former president , but people in his inner circle were involved in this broader effort. Now, the question will be, politically, how, if at all, this impacts the former president s ability to be a nominating, and there upcoming president ial election. And there, and much more sensible that this fourth indictment, while a storage, will have any real impact on his chances. I think he remains the prohibited front from water. And i think many Republican Voters think of positively. Is support has run. And, he has set himself, bring on the fourth indictment, because that will make me win. The federal president ial election in 2024, that is yet to be seen. But of course, if he is elected at 24, he will be able to pardon himself and others on federal charges but not for State Charges. Do you see that as his biggest challenge in all of the indictments that he faces and what advice would you give him on this . Well, the state indictment does present a different kind of challenge in the sense that, you read the indictment, it is quite farreaching, encompasses and includes that we are not even committed in the state of georgia, by the way. So, one wonders whether there may be other legal activities still out there. But, fundamentally, The Big Question in my mind, it still is, what will be the thing that turns people against the former president . And, the fact is, the continuing legal trouble, its not going to be that. Will a conviction potentially turn them against him . Probably not. We just really dont know, at this point, exactly what the situation is. But there is no question that the charges presented in the george indictment are quite serious, and they are charges that i think really are quite different than anything that we have seen in other indictments, federal or otherwise. And, we are already seeing trump supporters, critical of the fact that georges District Attorney, fadi willis, did not answer that question, one journalist puts her that document was late for just prior to that and that he be released. How will trumps legal team exploit that . I think you are already seeing the fact that they are painting her as a partisan, as if somebody who is doing this to further her own political career, as a somebody who has a lot of ambition for home this particular act, this particular situation will put her in the limelight. And there is no question that there are elements of her political background that make her a target. At least, for those conversations around what the political motivations are for this. And, i think what happens in these situations is that the political motivations do get mixed in with the legal arguments, and unfortunately, for the d. A. , that is something that she is going to have to deal with. Shes going to have to deal with the fact that a lot of people were republicans around the country view this skeptically, they viewed skeptically even before we heard any of the details, it almost doesnt matter what the content of the indictment is, and in many ways, the fact in the former of the indictment is more important for many republicans in georgia and around the country. So megan has to be set as well, that this a gop primary calendar, is getting pretty crowded out by the court cases. Thats right. How does your party deal with the potential gop president ial nominee, who has Sh Legal Jeopardy and political baggage . Well,ers the thing. I think a lot of the legal ramifications of this indictment , as well as others, are not going to be resolved until we are well into the Campaign Season next year. And arguably, some of it may not even be resolved before the november general election. So, the politics of this will still play out, i think, in a number of uncertain ways. But there is no question about having somebody who has been indicted as one thing. Having somebody who has been potentially convicted of a crime, that is very much another. And i do think there was a danger if republicans nominate mr. Trump again, that we end up coming up on october and november, in a situation where there are elements of the legal cases that are frankly outside of the control of the former president or anyone on the team. And that does put the republican ticket and potentially some jeopardy, if we get to next year, and it appears as though there is a central solution happening in one case or another that could potentially put the president behind bars or in some other kind of legal jeopardy. You so much for joining us. You bet. Still to come, and update from the battlefield in the ukraine, as officials report new Missile Attacks by russia, on multiple regions. We will have a report. Because scent cant sanitize. Lysol can. N. man mm, hey, honey. Looks like my todo list grew. Paint the bathroom, give baxter a bath, get life insurance, hm. I have a few minutes. I can do that now. Oh, that fast . Remember that Colonial Penn ad . I called and i got information. They sent the simple form i need to apply. All i do is fill it out and send it back. Well, that sounds too easy man give a little information, check a few boxes, sign my name, done. They dont ask about your health . man no health questions. 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Heavy fighting is also being reported and back mood, where Russian Forces are regaining lost ground. This, as ukraine says, its forces have liberated more land around the city. Elsewhere, president Volodymyr Zelensky visited troops near the Eastern Front lines on monday. The visit coming as he thanked the u. S. For a new 200 million Security Assistance package. Cnns Claire Sebastian joins us from london. Rush is hosting an army exhibition, and what he describes as an International Security conference this week, even as missiles continue to attack ukraine. Have we learned anything from this strategy from moscow . We just heard in the last hour, from the president Volodymyr Zelensky, it did not alleviate much from his speech is weird for both of them. In the past, president Volodymyr Zelensky blaming the west for Pumping Billions of dollars of equipment and military aid into ukraine. And doing so, prolonging the conflict that he talked about, a multipolar world, as of the Defense Minister, and i think that is part of whats going on you. They are trying to prove that russia is not isolated by this conflict, that it is still a significant political power, they do have some International Participants in both of those events, the army expo and the security conference, the Chinese Defense minister is expected to speak at the moscow International Security conference and we say video from monday of the Russian Defense minister Viewing Displays of the army expo from iran, from china. From india. So, they are trying to put on a show. Of course, the elephant in the room is that they continue to heavily bomb ukraine, some 28 ruiz, according to the Ukrainian Air force, launching overnight, 16, they say, managed to destroy. But three were killed in the western town of lutz, because it was damage reported it down south. This is a Sports Facility in the city of the knee, so this is ongoing. The message here ukraine is that nowhere is safe. But i want to bring you a piece of news from russia, the last few minutes, youve heard that in terms of the economy, the central bank has come in and raised Interest Rates by some 3 1 2 in an unscheduled meeting. They are concerned that shows that the were has been insulated from the russian economy for some time is now coming over this way. Rosemary . Laura, thank you so much. Coming up, looking back on a pivotal day in afghanistan. When the taliban fighters entered the city and returned to fighter. We will see how peoples lives directly changed since then. Am i . Ya save 50 on the sleep Number Limited Edition smart bebed. Plus, 36 month financing on select smart t beds. Shop now only at sleep numbmber. Attention. Are you suffering from hearing loss . The fda has finally approved hearing aids to be sold over the counter. 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Since then, afghans have suffered from emergency food shortages, malnutrition, and prolonged droughts. Despite promises to be lenient, the taliban leaders are steadily cracking down on human rights and nobody is paying a higher price than women and children. We get joined now from anna coren, and hong kong. Two years since they sought the powers in afghanistan taking over the capital. How much has life change under the taliban rule . Rosemary, the taliban today celebrating what they call a victory and they have announced a Public Holiday for us to enjoy. For the girls and women of the country, there is no celebration. Each day they are facing extreme oppression and have now becoming pretty much prisons in their own homes. The taliban is implementing a system of total discrimination exclusion and subjugation of women and girls and while afghan womens rights activists are calling the taliban hard line stance is a war against women. We spoke with a University Student still inside afghanistan who says there is no future for the women of her country. In the corner of her room, on a piece of string, hanging by paperclips, of the treasured memories of 20yearold, sarah. They are here in my life. Reporter photos, mementos, drawings. A secret world of a life once lived that this afghan University Student now agrees four. We stand in front of the mirror, and when i look at myself, i see a different person, from two years ago. Reporter on the 15th of august, 2021, her life as she knew it was shattered. The taliban swept to power after the u. S. Withdrawal from afghanistan following the 20 year war. Handing back control to the same group of the islamic extremists, who ruled in the 1990s. The taliban promised to be more moderate on womens whites, the last two years have brought a hardline stance towards women. Reporter the closure of secondary schools for girls, the false inflammation vision of the hope, the restriction on travel without a chaperone. The banning of women from universities and working at ngos including the u. N. Just last month of the taliban closes all 60,000 women. Many of them, the Soul Breadwinners of their homes. Womens freedom does not exist. There is no such thing. Neck womens rights activists who stated there, said the government is erasing women from society. The rights that we had, we are losing all of it. If it is not annihilation what is it . Inspiring designer is very clear with the tell amanda demands. Stayed home, get married, you give birth to children, thats it. This is your life. This is what women are made for. Reporter the taliban is refusing to listen. Saying that it will not be pressured. Translator afghanistan was free from occupation. Afghans were able to regain her country, freedom, government, and will. The only way to solve the problem is to understand and dialogue. Pressure and force are not logical. Reporter Human Rights Activists fear International Condemnation ours waning and the taliban is desperate for International Recognition is gradually being normalized. Their posing photographs, smiling diplomats. Private jets to fly off to important highlevel meetings with people roll out red carpet for them. They are being committed to take control over embassies and a growing number of countries. So i think that from their perspective, its going pretty well. Reporter a terrifying assessment for the women of the country. Protests have all but disappeared apart from a small group who faces the threat of arrest. As they try to get the worlds attention. For most, they suffer in silence. Convinced that the world no longer cares. If it continues like this, the future is not only for me, but also for other girls, it is horrible. And, it is disaster. Rosemary, we spoke to the taliban. The deputy spokesperson, he probably had the talibans achievement such as cracking down on of the drugs trade, when we asked him about girls education, he said he was very evasive. Refusing to say when girls would be allowed to go back to school. All he said was that conditions needs to be favorable. This was the same line, rosemary, that the taliban gave when they ruled in the 1990s. Girls never went back to school. Thank you so much for that incredible report. You bet. Thank you for joining us this hour. Rosemary church, we will be back with more cnn newsroom after a short break. Stay with us. man mm, hey, honey. Looks like my todo list grew. Paint the bathroom, give baxter a bath, get life insurance, hm. I have a few minutes. I can do that now. Oh, that fast . Remember that Colonial Penn ad . I called and i got information. They sent the simple form i need to apply. All i do is fill it out and send it back. 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