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Why the Justice Department is now being called to intervene in an attempted murder case. Two white men who were accused of attempting to murder a black fedex driver. The video the Police Departments been accused now of withholding from the case. Im kate bolduan with sara sidner and john berman. This is cnn news central. For the First Time Since his Georgia Grand Jury indictment, former President Donald Trump is speaking out. Trump appearing on fox business reacting to the charges alleging him of being ahead of a criminal enterprise to overturn the 2020 election. Listen. You know, we have a tremendous group of people in this country, and im not just talking about republicans. We have them on both sides, and we have a lot of them. And when they watch this witch hunt, this disgusting situation, where they do it for publicity, for fundraisers based on in her case, theyre all bad, but in her case i have four of them. The das said theyre doing it for the betterment of the country. The sweeping indictment against former President Trump and 18 others in georgia also including details surrounding 30 unindicted and unnamed coconspirators. Cnn has new information of some of them by piecing together details included in that indictment. Among them, boris epstein, bernie carrick, and georgias Lieutenant Governor, burt jones. Crime and justice reporter ind Katelyn Polantz is following the story. What more are you learning about the unindicted and unnamed coconspirators . Reporter we are able to note several because of The Public Retired On what happened after the election in 2020. These are people who are not charged with crimes, but that doesnt mean that they are excused from having any part in this case. They could be people who might flip if prosecutors wanted them to, if they need them, they could be people who provided valuable information to prosecutors, and we could see them as witnesses at the trial in the future. But some of them are people who are very close to donald trump and his political sphere, and then theres also one person to really focus on, the Lieutenant Governor of georgia, burt jones, who at the time was a State Senator during the election period of 2020. And he also was a fake elector for donald trump. He appears to have escaped any issues in this case as of now because fani willis, the d. A. , had sent a target letter, told him he could be charged in the case. But then a judge ordered her not to investigate him because of a political step that she had taken with a fundraiser related to his election pursuits. And so there is an agency that is separate from fani willis, the d. A. In georgia, who is vowing to have attorneys appointed or a Special Prosecutor appointed to work with him. So jones is one to watch going forward. The prosecutors want the case in d. C. To go forward by january of next year, but lawyers for donald trump are asking for a really long wait, out to 2026. When would we know what the judge decides on this . Reporter well know by the end of the month. At least that has been the timeline thats been laid out so far. The Justice Department, they wrote their arguments for what they want which is a january trial, a trial that would start quite soon from now. A pretty aggressive timeline. Theyve made really compelling arguments about the publics need to have a resolution in this case, especially in an Election Year given that it is about the previous president ial election. Now Donald Trumps team does not want that at all. They dont want the trial to happen for almost three years from now. And that is what they said in the Cower Filing Last Night court filing last night. Always weve got to listen to what the judge says. Yes, we do. So do they. Thank you so much for your great reporting on this. John . So new this morning, a Cnn Exclusive On One of the attorneys charged in georgia for conspiring with donald trump to overturn the election. Ken cheeseboro is one of the alleged architects of the socalled fake elector plot. Now cnn has identified him on video on january 6th at the u. S. Capitol, and whats more, the video specifically showed him following conspiracy theorist alex jones around the grounds. With me now, one of the men who poured through this video to find this, cnn kfile Senior Editor andrew kaczynski. Remarkable reporting. What did you find . Whats interesting is he follows alex jones for more than an hour as they make their way to the capitol grounds, including in some restricted areas that were previously barricaded off by police. Now whats interesting about this who is Kenneth Cheeseboro . Hes one of those alleged master minds of that plot to use fake electors to keep donald trump in office. Hes one of the intellectual leaders of that movement, and who do we see him with but alex jones. Alex jones was one of those people who was out there fanning the flames of just the most inflammatory rhetoric in the lead up to the january 6th riot. One expert that we spoke with to made this connection where it shows just this thin line that we see between people like cheeseboro, the people behind the scenes, people coming up with how they were socalled legally going to take the election from joe biden, and the people like alex jones who are just using that really fanatical rhetoric which got people to there on january 6th. Now we first see the pair together about, i want to say, a half mile from the capitol. They walk up there. Alex jones gives a speech eventually. They make their way to the other side, this was all done using publicly available footage. They walk about halfway up the steps, and we see them together for about over an hour up to maybe an hour and a half. It really is interesting to see chesboro there. Weve highlighted him with the red hat through that. Filming, you know, just there for it. No evidence that he went into the capitol itself . What does he have to say . Theres no evidence he went into the capitol. No evidence that he was violent. Theres no evidence that alex jones of violent or went into the capitol either. Its interesting because people that jones led up the steps actually then did go into the capitol. We reached out personally, didnt hear anything back. His attorney gave us a statement, they declined to comment on this. But they said that theyre going to mr. Chesboro is going to allow the Legal Process to play out and declines Public Comment at this time. As i said, very interesting video to see. Great work by you and your team. Great to see you in person. Kate . And joining us now is cnn senior legal analyst, former federal and state prosecutor, elie honig, and political analyst for the associated. April, 2026. This is the request now, elie, from trumps attorneys to when they would like to see the trial on the federal the 2020 election, the federal trial begin. On its face, i wanted to get your take on what you think about the push to 2026. Because quite frankly, the contrast is almost comical between the request from trumps attorneys and the requests from the Special Counsel asking for january of next year. I think both sides are far off base in their requests. 2026 is sort of obviously way too far out there. Its hard to even conceive of 2026. I think thats a vast overreach by Donald Trumps team. But on the other side of the coin, asking for trial to start in january of 2024, as doj has done, is also not just unrealistic but really gets close to infringing on Donald Trumps right to prepare for a trial. Hes the one who has a constitutional interest here. Hes the one whose libertys at stake. I think his lawyers in their submission make a powerful argument that we cannot even physically get through the 11 million documents that we are in the process of being given by doj between now and january. And they dont have to just sort of read through those documents, they have to analyze them, prepare their own defense, they have to file motions. So i think both of these dates are really out of bounds. I think its going to be up to the judge to find a middle ground. The question is will the middle ground be before or after the 2024 election. Which is obviously critical, that is the maybe that is the question both legally and politically in this moment. Some in terms of the political impact of a 2026 start date, if that would happen which seems to be an unlikely situation, but what do you think that means . Well, i think like elie said, that 2026 date is not realistic and doesnt seem like its going to happen. But whats unavoidable is that throughout Donald Trumps four separate indictments there are so many separate court propro proce proceedings, hearings, updates that will be sprinkled through the primary calendar. And his legal troubles are going to be so difficult to avoid. They already are so difficult to avoid as the primary calendar progresses and as people start voting in early states early next year. But you do see even with these georgia charges and even as these his criminal the criminal accusations against donald trump become more and more serious, the the reaction among his challengers in the republican primary hasnt really changed. You can kind of put them into people who are defending him, you can put them in a bucket of people who are saying this is why he condition be our nominee. Mike pence has been a little unusual because of his own personal role in the race. And that just shows you where republicanbased voters are. They dont believe hes targeted, and they think they are politically motivated and supporting trump here. I want to play what bill barr, trumps former attorney general, said about all of this yesterday. He thinks the federal cases against donald trump are responsible and focused and important in his view. He speaks very differently about the charges against donald trump coming from new york and the case in georgia. Listen to this. Im not happy with the georgia case. I think its much too sweeping, much too broad, excessive case that is make it look like people are piling on and being excessive to trump and feed the narrative that hes being victimized here. And i also think theres merit in the point that this is a case that i dont think is going to be triable before the election. How many trump trials do you think will happen before the election . Well, keeping in mind that i wrote a book critical of bill barr, i happen to agree with him here. I think its very unlikely that this georgia case gets to trial before the election. If we just look at the way things are handled in georgia, theres another racketeering case happening in georgia right now. They are on their seventh month of choosing a jury. Thats how slow things move in georgia. Given the astonishing breadth and scope of fani willis charges, there is flow way this trial gets started and completed by the 2024 election. If i had to put an over under on how many trials we will see before the 2024 election, i think id play like the vegas oddsmakers here and put it at 1. 5. I think we are likely to see at least one of the cases. I think judge chutkan has made clear she intends to try the federal january 6th case before the election. And i think its 50 50 whether we also see the maralago case. I do agree with former attorney general barr that those are the two most important cases that should go first. Good to see you guys. Thank you. Unusual and dangerous weather. 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Death valley, which sees an average of two inches of rain a year, this storm which is called hilary could double that in one day. Bulldozers have been moving sand on beaches as this could become the first Tropical Storm to hit california, southern california, in 84 years. It just doesnt get hit with storms like this. So lets get to Meteorologist Derek Van dam to get a sense of where the storm is, the timing, and where exactly its going. Derek . You know, i like that you showed some of the pictures coming out of Cabo San Lucas because you can see cabo on our weather map, and here is the location of hurricane hilary. This is roughly 300 miles away. So were starting to see an expanding wind field. Some of the Outer Rain Bands from the storm already impacting this major tourist destination. Thats in the southern california, baja peninsula. Where is the storm heading from here . Lets take it further into the future. Official forecast track, were waiting for that 11 00 a. M. Eastern Standard Time update. One things for sure, we have a weakening storm in this forecast. As it approaches southern california, it will likely be a Tropical Storm. So lets time it out. If youre in san diego, perhaps los angeles, ventura county, for instance, these areas susceptible with gusty wind

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