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Right now save up to 900 off mattress sets during purples labor day sale. Visit purple. Com or a Mattress Firm near you. Deadline to surrender. Donald trump and his 18 codefendants in georgia must turn themselves in to the Fulton County jail this week. What were learning about when they will actually show up in atlanta as the former president says he will not show up to this weeks gop debate. A wet and muddy mess in california. The southwest cleaning up from rain and flooding after historic tropical storm. We are tracking the impacts and the lingering threat. And soon President Biden will arrive in hawaii to see the aftermath of deadly wildfires. Some residents criticizing the official response so far, with hundreds of people still missing on maui. Were following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news central. We begin this hour in georgia. Today Donald Trumps Defense Attorneys are expected to negotiate his bond terms with the Fulton County d. A. s office. Trump and his 18 codefendants have until noon friday to turn themselves in on charges tied to his attempts to overturn the election in georgia. We are closely watching two key sites in atlanta. The Fulton County courthouse. Thats where those negotiations will happen. And the jail where the defendants will have to show up and be booked. Cnns Katelyn Polantz is outside the courthouse. Katelyn, what more do we know about these talks and about how long theyll take . Reporter well, were expecting these negotiations between the prosecutors here in georgia and Donald Trumps december lawyers to happen this afternoon and that there may be other lawyers for other defendants. Some of those or maybe all of those 18 to be coming in or somehow negotiating with the prosecutors in this case. What they have to negotiate is how these arrests are going to work because donald trump, he is going to be arecerested here. Hes now been indicted. He will have to enter his initial pleading, very likely not guilty, same with the did defendants but that cant happen until his lawyers talk to the prosecutors about getting bail terms set, how these people will be released if there are any specific terms that the prosecutors want, maybe travel restrictions, maybe money that they might have to put up. And so were waiting to see some evidence that these negotiations are taking place here. We have a large team spread out around here at the courthouse complex awaiting this development to see how it goes. There is a pretty heightened level of security here. But it really isnt clear yet when these negotiations would be finalized. And also were watching to see if donald trump is going to be treated like any other criminal defendant in the system here in georgia. The sheriff here previously said at the beginning of august that any defendant would be treated the same no matter who it might be. But at the end of the day donald trump isnt just any defendant. He is the former president with a secret Service Protection for life himself. And whenever he goes over to the jail he would be very different than many of the people who would be held there in that he comes in with his own security, he might not need to be mug shotted because hes so recognizable. But that will be for later in the week. Were waiting to see exactly what emerges from these bond talks when we can confirm that they happen. Yeah. Among the many questions. Mug shot . Fingerprints . Well see. Katelyn polantz outside the courthouse there. Thanks so much. Boris. Lets expand the conversation now with cnn chief legal analyst and former federal prosecutor laura coates. And laura, weve got to update that intro because youre also the newest Cnn Primetime Anchor at 11 00. Look forward to that. Congrats. Thank you, boris. Youre such a sweetheart. Thank you for mentioning it. Lets get to it. Donald trump and his 18 codefendants set to turn themselves in later this week. What are you anticipating . A bit of a circus. A bit of a parade of unexpected people who normally would not be seen in this venue. Youre talking about rudy giuliani. Youre talking about mark meadows. Youre talking about donald trump. And you have a host of other people including a lot of attorneys, including Sidney Powell and beyond. So youre going to see something thats very unexpected and uncharted. But the key here is to recognize that some of the things you might expect of highprofile defendants might not be present here because when you are indicted in this particular jurisdiction and across the country you ought to be treated equally. Equal justice under the law recognized the same way. Now, of course donald trump stands in stark contrast for the reasons katelyn talked about. No one else is going to have Secret Service with them. But as far as the detail as we now know them, it appears theyre going to follow every protocol they normally have for any defendant. Well, on that note because this is uncharted it leads me to a question about a mug shot because weve seen donald trump take every legal battle that hes had and sort of kung fu it into an advantage. We see his poll numbers go up. We see his fundraising go up. I wouldnt doubt they would take a mug shot and then start making tshirts or paraphernalia. Does that at all go into the considerations over that decision . Im sure politically its advantageous as he has said already, i just want one more indictment and i can win this thing. Well, be careful what you wish for, mr. President , because you had that one more indictment. Now, youve had a lot of other famous people with mug shots. Nick nolte, frank sinatra, wesley snipes. I mean, tom delay, i think, had one as well. A lot of people whove had mug shots before. So its not unheard of. But the notion of him having one could be very well used as a kind of campaign propaganda. A kind of saying listen, his whole platform has been it is me against the world, they actually want to get to you but im standing in the way, so really this weaponized government is doing just this. That could be a possibility. But really mug shots are supposed to be a part of the entire Booking Process for two reasons. One, to identify the person. We already know who he is. But of course we know other famous people as well. And number two, as a part of the system and a part of what the track record has been. He has now three other indictments. They have a record of him. They know where he is. They probably have his fingerprints already. But still, he may not be afforded all these luxuries of saying hey, you know what, it might be offputting. Well, he has now indictments. That nick nolte mug shot will go down in history oh, yeah. With the hair. It was crazy. I remember it. Its special. You mentioned something i wanted to dig deeper into, be careful what you wish for. For most defendants theyre worried about federal charges. But even if hes elected president the state charges are not something he could freeze or get rid of. Those potentially carry more weight. Oh, that is going to be baggage that will cover and carry into the white house if he were to be elected the president of the united states. Ive heard people mention things like this is an Insurance Policy for jack smith, having fani williss indictment. I dont see it that way. These are two separate sovereigns. Now, if they have complementary laws that are at issue or complementary indictments, that is merely a coincidence. But its not an Insurance Policy that one actually coincided according with the other. Its more saying look, a State Prosecution will stand as it is. Theres a reason for that. Fani willis and Fulton County and georgia has a vested interest in how their elections are run and how they are undermined. We know the constitution, our founding fathers, our laws give our states the power to regulate and oversee their elections. So in some respects if georgia and the allegations are true, that would all be Georgia State territory. And a federal prosecution would have to stay in its own lane. There are very interesting reasons to look at both of these. But at the end of the day a State Prosecution overseeing State Voting Laws is going to be extremely important in how elections are run from here on out. But the federal charges do not give the side eye to them, boris because theyre very significant. But if he is the president he could poohpooh that and do away with it. No sideeye for me. No side eye. We should also note a slew of georgia officials from the governor, Lieutenant Governor, the Secretary Of State have all said that the elections there were fair and free and there was no supposed and these are republicans too. Precisely. Precisely. So on to the question of mark mead oelz, meadows, trumps former chief of staff. Hes now essentially trying to get a Federal Court to intervene in the state charges to dismiss them saying i was just carrying out my duty as chief of staff, following orders. Does that have legs . Could that stand up . N. Court . Well, he will argue that in court. But the criteria is one, you had to be acting under color of office. Meaning what you were doing was actually a part of your duties. Think about it. A federal office looking at the actual State Elections are already at odds with one another for the reasons i just said. The other aspect of this of course is the jury you might get. You might want demographicwise, maybe the district of georgia the north as opposed to the primarily democraticvoting Fulton County perhaps as your motivation for that. Thats jury shopping, though. And we dont want that in our system of justice. Also, to prove that you actually could be removed, remember, youve got to prove to the judge, and that federal judge is far more seasoned, frankly, than the new judge thats been assigned and appointed nominated by Governor Brian Kemp more recently that has the case right now. It would put the prosecutors in a bit of unfamiliar, uncharted Federal Territory although they are able to do both. But theres really a rock and a hard place. Federal courts are not meant for the faint of heart. The laws, the evidentiary burdens, all thats going to be very, very important. So if you choose that, it might be out of the frying pan and into the fire. Either way you have to prove you actually have a reason to get there. It cant just be i dont feel like being in state court. Laura coates, appreciate the expertise as always. Look forward to seeing her at 11 00. Thank you. Of course. Brianna . Donald trump will be heading to the Fulton County jail this week but confirmed he is not going to the first gop debate. What a super pac supporting the former president is focusing their attention on instead. And President Biden is bound for hawaii to survey Wildfire Devastation and to meet survivors. We are live on maui, where hundreds of people are still missing. Next on cnn news central. What do we always say, son . Liberty mutual customis your Car Insurance. So you only pay for what you need. Thats my boy. Stay off the freeways only pay for what you need. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. 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Reporter well, brianna, they are clearly trying to set up a contrast directly between the former President Donald Trump and president joe biden. And make this seem like a pivot toward a general Election Strategy rather than focusing on the primary. Now, the ad itself is really hitting on The Big Picture themes that i know that the former president s team wants not only voters to focus on but wants the former president to focus on as well. Themes like the economy, china, the border and crime. All messaging that they think can help him win. Boat in the primary and potential general. I also have had many conversations with Donald Trumps team over the last few days and hours and i know that donald trump both privately and publicly has been boasting about his commanding lead in the polls and pointing to them as some of his reasoning for why he thinks he can just skip that debate on wednesday. And remember, while all of his republican rivals are currently preparing to take the stage in milwaukee donald trump wont be there. And so this is kind of where their posture is right now. Theyre focusing on a general. But of course again, this is very early on in the race. The primary elections are a far way away. And a lot can change between now and then. Especially as you have all of his legal troubles hovering around this. And of course donald trump is expected to head to georgia this week and surrender. And its still unclear what these legal troubles will do and how theyll play out in the campaign down the line. Alayna treene live for us in bedminster, new jersey. You mentioned those legal troubles. We are following those as well. I do want to head now to Fulton County, which is where our Katelyn Polantz is with some Breaking News. What can you tell us, katelyn . Reporter we do have the first of the Bond Agreements of these 19 criminal defendants in the state of georgia related to the 2020 election and the aftermath working around donald trump. The first one that we can see the paperwork on, what has been agreed to, is for john eastman, a lawyer who worked for trump as an elections lawyer and became quite a prominent name in arranging with fake electors and other people. His bond, 100,000. Thats for the nine different counts that he faces here in georgia that he will be arrested for now that those bail terms are set. He also will have to be arraigned before a judge or waive his arraignment on a piece of paper and enter his pleading of not guilty. Thats what we expect john eastman to do. But some of the additional terms here, its not just money that has to be put up, either a percentage or the full amount in cash if he so chooses, if he doesnt want to use a bail bonding firm. He also is ordered not to have any communications with other defendants in this case or with any possible witnesses in this case about the facts of this case. So that is all of the

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