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Im john berman with sara sidner and kate bolduan, this is cnn news central. It was a house in chaos, and now a house in paralysis with no Speaker Of The House in place, no goodwill remaining at all among the various republican factions. What is going to happen in the House Of Representatives is more uncertain now than ever. After the historic vote to oust Kevin Mccarthy, the position of second in line to the presidency is now vacant. The House Republican majority is in such turmoil that they have thrown in the towel for the week, sending members home until tuesday next week. The man who single handedly led this charge binto the abyss, mat gaetz. The only unifying message amongst most republicans this morning is that he should be held accountable. But what does that look like . Caught up in all of this, you remember. You dont need reminding, taxpayer dollars and any concept of a functioning legislative branch. Manu raju is back at it on the hill for us this morning. Whats next . Whats happening . Reporter yeah, right now behind the scenes, theres a debate about how they can Pick Up The Pieces here after yesterdays tumultuous and historic move to oust the Speaker Of The House for the first time in american history, but now the republicans are trying to figure out who will lead them out of the abyss and who can help Pick Up The Pieces and how they can actually legislate in this bitterly divided House Republican conference in this narrowly divided house. All hunl quge questions at the moment. Right now in talking to medical examiner, theres palpable tension, particularly among allies which most of the republican conference, which was aligned with speaker mccarthy, the former speaker mccarthy, criticizing the members who held out, those eight republicans who decided to side with democrats, kick Kevin Mccarthy out of the position here. The question is can they agree on a candidate, a new candidate who will lead them, but in talking to members, theres a lot of bad will within the conference and a long ways to go before they can get behind a consensus candidate. Those eight people are anarchists and kcaucus members, and they get their power with the democrats voting with them all of the time. They have demands that nobody can meet. There are too many people who are willing to lie to our own voters, they refused to deliver, well, explain the mechanism by which that delivery would have occurred, given the political reality we live in. Its very dishonest. We believe is best for the country, and i will say theres been a blow dealt to the status quo. I think this is a step in the right direction. Reporter so there are still some questions about who exactly will run for the next Speaker Of The House. There are several people who have been making phone calls to sound out their colleagues to see whether or not they have the support to replace speaker mccarthy. Among those people in particular, Steve Scalise, the current number two, the House Majority leader. He was once seen as a person who could run here, and the House Judiciary Committee chairman jim jordan who told me yesterday hes open to the possibility of running. He didnt rule it out. Hes signalled to his allies he could be open to the possibility of running and, kevin hern, a member of the republican study committee, the largest conservative group in the house. He has been talking to colleagues as well. Others could emerge, patrick mchenry, the interim speaker, a possible candidate as well. I may have to figure out the other candidates down the line. Something that the current republican whip could potentially go for. The big question is who could get 218 votes in the house. That will all take place next week. First, the House Republican conference will nominate someone to be the next speaker. That requires only half of the House Republican conference, but then someone needs to be elected speaker, and that requires half of the whole house, 218 members, and with republicans that means that their person will face the same issue that Kevin Mccarthy did, can only afford to lose four republican votes on any Party Line Measure which means the new speaker candidate, kw whoever that person may be, will have to assure that the hard liners are appeased and moderate members are appeased, theres an enormous amount of frustration, getting to consensus will be difficult for whoever the new speaker candidate is, guys. Ted cruz walking past through there. Maybe hes got an opinion on who the next House Speaker should be. Its good to see you, manu. Thank you so much. Donald trump who encouraged the shutdown now weighing in to all of this saying, why cant republicans stop fighting with each other and fight the democrats instead. The question is does he have any sway in electing a new speaker . We all remember that he helped Kevin Mccarthy win The Speakership earlier this year after 15 rounds of voting. Trump pushed mccarthy across the finish line, securing some final votes by calling lawmakers and publicly endorsing mccarthy. But now, ten months later, mccarthy is out, thanks to fellow republicans who are big trump supporters, and congressman matt gaetz is now suggesting that he had the backing of the former president. My conversations with the former president leave me with great confidence that im doing the right thing. Cnns Alayna Treene joins us now. What are you hearing at this point . Will donald trump weigh in to all of this in a bigger way . Reporter well, actually, sara, we just got word that the former president as he was arriving for his Third Straight day for a civil trying in new york city, he did mention briefly what is happening in congress. He said that they have a lot of good people in the Republican Party, and kind of left it at that. A very vague statement x. Thats in keeping with his posture the last few days. Ive spoken to many of Donald Trumps advisers and allies over the past 24 hours, and they told me that he purposely did not want to get involved in the Power Struggle in congress. They noted that, one, donald trump has a lot going on himself right now. He obviously is attending his civil trial but also focused on his 2024 race. Also, the other fact is he had people who endorse him and support him on both sides of the speaker fight. Of course, matt gaetz, the republican who led the effort to oust mccarthy is a donald trump supporter. He endorsed him, and hes a surrogate for his campaign, but you also have a lot of people who backed Kevin Mccarthy and did not want to see him removed from his speakership who also endorsed donald trump. And so really, they told me that they didnt see a lot of political up side to trump getting involved in this. I have one quote from a trump ally that Encaps Latulates how president is thinking about this. He cant be sticking his neck out whenever theres a fight in the house, especially when you have people who endorse him on both sides. Thats where the former president stands on this. As you mentioned, sara. Its a stark contrast from what donald trump did back in january. Of course, mccarthy was going through his 15 rounds of voting in order to secure his speakership and the gavel. Donald trump came in in the 11th hour, and Kevin Mccarthy won. Yelled he did not go into speaker fight with donald trump. And we saw him ultimately get removed from office. Well see what happens next with chaos, chaos, everywhere in congress. Thank you so much, Alayna Treene. Cnn senior political analyst, john avlon, and s. E. Cupp. Kevin mccarthy debased himself again and again and again for donald trump, and donald trump did nothing for him when Kevin Mccarthy most needed it. What does that tell you . Well, the ironies abound. There are many. Donald trump saying the republicans should focus their fire on democrats is really really rich as well, considering trump trademarked this, picking fights with republicans inside his own party. Famously primarying republicans he didnt like or who dared to disagree with him. People like adam kinzinger, and liz cheney, and jeff flake are no longer in congress because donald trump picked fights with republicans more often than he picked fights with democrats. The Republican Party, because of trump, has become far more interested in identifying heretics that convicts and matt gaetz took that up like a champ, and drove Kevin Mccarthy out. Republicans just ousted their own speaker, their own leader with no one else in the wings because donald trump sort of ushered in this wave of interparty purity tests and loyalty fights. So donald trump is not in a great position to weigh in on this fight. And Kevin Mccarthy should not have expected his loyalty to trump to go both ways. Thats never the case. What do you think Kevin Mccarthy is going to do next time donald trump calls . Do you think Kevin Mccarthy is going to go out there and campaign for donald trump now . I mean, after he reversed himself on january 6th, quite possibly. If Kwevin Mccarthy is even in te game of politics with any real influence. This is the problem, the Old Churchill line, appeasement is feeding a crocodile and hoping it eaststs you last. Its entirely predictable, when he kissed the ring at maralago, this was set in motion. As he notes, its always a one way street. Kevin mccarthy said, you know, they cant call themselves conservatives, theyre angry and chaotic. Thats the trump Republican Party, people. John, i wanted to ask you about this, i admitted to you before we came on, i broke into your office to find a copy of your book wing nuts written in 2010. The reason i was looking for it is to make the point what just happened wasnt a yesterday thing, it wasnt a january, when Kevin Mccarthy becomes speaker thing. This is a thing that has been building for a long time. Explain. Fundamentally. This is the key point to understand. This isnt about Kevin Mccarthy. It predates donald trump. This has been a structural problem within the Republican Party for more than a decade, going back to at least the tea party. Right . Think about it, john boehner was basically pushed out of office by the far right with mark meadows threatening to leave the same kind of insurrection. Paul ryan walked away saying the Conservative Outrage Complex is too much to deal with, and Kevin Mccarthy has been consumed by the same thij. Its not going to be different for the next speaker. This is what happens when you invite populist fury into the tent, and have the delusion you can corral the crazy. G golom will turn on its creator every time. Live Pictures Inside the courtroom in new york city. This is the Civil Fraud Trial against donald trump where he has already been found liable. Hes already lost what may be the biggest part of the case where a judge determined he did commit fraud along with his adult sons. Day 3 of the trial now, each day before they begin hearing from witnesses, they have allowed in brief minute to take Pictures Inside. No one speaks, this is just for your viewing pleasure, i imagine to get a sense of what its like. Donald trump not speaking there. And by the way, a Gag Order Over Trump now. He can not say anything about people involved in this case, although not the judge or the prosecutors, the people who work in the court itself, a gag order in place. We will see how that goes. Theres the attorney general, tish james who brought this civil case. Were going to keep our eye on this trial. Back to the situation at hand, and theyre not completely divorced, i imagine. Donald trump in court right there as his political future very much tied to the future of the Republican Party in general. So whats going to happen next . Is it all going to get better now . Now that they ousted Kevin Mccarthy for republicans, how do their prospects look for the next few months . Well, let me tell you what happened in the minutes, if not hours after mccarthy was ousted. Matt gaetz was out there on newsmax slamming the pro tem speaker, patrick mchenry, so thats going great. And patrick mchenry, the pro tem speakers first item of business was to email speaker aemeritus nancy pelosi to vacate her office. All problems have been solved and function has been restored. I had democratic member of Congress Annie Custer on last hour, and she was saying that she hopes what emerges from this is maybe some consensus. Maybe republicans will decide to put a moderate candidate forward who can get the support of the caucus at large. Im Playing Off What Se was just saying with some irony, and, john, my response to her is this is not an episode of the west w wing, is it reasonable to expect to have something more moderate after Kevin Mccarthy. That would be the triumph of hope over experience. We could go a dozen, 15 rounds to find the next speaker. Democrats might say, give us a candidate those of us in the problem solving caucus could support, regular order, the Speaker Of The House doesnt need to be a member of the house. Were constrained by the reflexive tribalship. There is a different way to do this. Its just hard to imagine that they could disenthrall themselves enough to do it. S. E. , any potential there is the west wing jon avalon written episode that democrats get behind a republican that might be more their like something. I love aaron sorkin, and i wish west wing were reality, but even he admits that was a Polly Anna Version of how politics goes, no more so today. Listen, republicans have not historically, and i mean recent history been in positions to help themselves win. Republicans, as you know, lost the white house, the house and the senate. Republicans keep beating themselves. Republicans just ousted their own speaker. Republicans are not in the business of helping themselves out. And helping their voters helping governance solving problems. I wouldnt expect them to do themselves any favors in the coming days and weeks. Just quickly, on the split screen with donald trump and this chaos on capitol hill. Heres the real take away. The only unforgiveness sin within the republican conference having the temerity to keep the government open, anything else is game, including having an election on the basis of a lie. John avlon, s. E. Cupp, thank you to both of you. Kate. You saw donald trump back in a manhattan courtroom. Thats where he is today, but this time hes entering the courthouse with a gag order in place. What pushed the judge to lay down that warning and threat. Police are searching for a suspect in a mass shooting today. Five people, including students shot on the campus of morgan state university, were going to take you live to the scene. And another major labor strike is kicking off, 75,000 people have walked off the job in what is now the largest American Health care strike in history. Well be back. These pictures youre looking at behind me are from moments ago inside a courtroom here in new york city. This is Donald Trumps Civil Fraud Trial where a judge has already ruled against him in a major part of the case, ruling he is liable for fraud. Now, this is a different donald trump than we have seen the last two days in court. What is different today is that there is a gag order in place. There are certain things that donald trump has been told that he can not say or write about about certain people involved in the court, and we are waiting to see if he abides by these new rules. Cnns Brynn Gingras is outside the courthouse this morning with the very latest. Br brynn. Reporter yeah, john, as

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