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There are americans who remain unaccounted for. I do expect, unfortunately, that the list of americans confirmed dead will rise today. Miller went on to say that the u. S. Is reaching out to any country it can with ties to hamas to get them to release those hostages. We have reported, kate, that one of those countries is qatar. There are also discussions, we are told, with the israelis, with the eej gyptians with the humanitarian corridor so theyre able to get out of the gaza strip if israel decides to go in. Weve heard from israeli officials that they plan to exact a harsh response to hamas for these attacks. Alex, we will bring those remarks from the Secretary Of State if and when he does come to the cameras to speak and our alex is there. Thank you very much, alex. Top of the hour. Im john berman with kate bolduan and sara sidner. We just learned israel has a government in the war cabinet, this is Benjamin Netanyahu who made the announcement moments ago all of this as hundreds of thousands israeli reservists are staged outside gaza. Lets get right to Becomy Anderson who is in tel aviv who can explain this shift inside the government and what it means. Becky . This is really important. What we understand is that these discussions have now been going on for some days, and i have to say there was some speculation. We got this news yesterday, but clearly, these negotiations on who is in this unity government and particularly in what will be this war cabinet have been very, very difficult, but as we understand it now, this is Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister, in unity now in a Coalition Government in a car cabinet with benny gantz who is the leader of the National Unity party and Opposition Leader and former Defense Minister, of course, and the Defense Minister gallantthis is an Emergency Situation that is being addressed now by those who have experience of war in government here. What isnt clear is what the makeup of this wider group will be and sources have been telling me that there has been much discussion and demands made by those in opposition that the right wing ministers, the finance and security ministers beng veer, will not be part of it. All we know at this time is that Benjamin Netanyahu is now in unity with benny gantz and the Defense Minister here gallant to to address What Happens Next and the sense is here that what you didnt have in the cabinet, in the government until saturday morning was experience. And what you need is spencer and authority of characters in position who reflect the unity of of the israelis. I am being told now, i am just getting reporting on this. This is an Emergency Cabinet, a war cabinet at this point. Becky, for those who i mean, who arent familiar with the players within israeli politics so much, just some background here of what a big deal this is as you describe it because these are Political Parties and these are men who are until now, deeply hostile with each other and it does underline the scale of the crisis and how much has changed in israel since saturday. Just the background, if you can offer kind of earth shattering is what saturday was with the hamas Terror Attack and this as a response to it. Just the perspective on that. If we step back and consider whats going on for months and months as being this deep, Deep Division and reflected on the streets of tel aviv and reflected in this country with hundreds of thousands of israelis demonstrating and protesting against what has been israels most rightwing government ever. This sense now that there is an absolute need to bring those who are running this country together in a war cabinet that can now address the security concerns that israel now face wes experience. There has been much talk around the judicial reform about how Benjamin Netanyahu and his right wing have want been focused on what israelis themselves believe is important for them and on saturday morning, you know, that was revealed. Security and protection. Where was why was there such a failure of intelligence . Why is it now that israelis feel such a sense of insecurity and vulnerability . And it was to the Prime Minister, to organize around him, to ensure now the fingers of blame are pointed to him squarely on what happens Going Forward and now the crucial nature of what is in play here. The complexity of What Happens Next with regard of any incursion, Ground Incursion into gaza. The sense now that the decisionses that are made here in israel about what happens in the days and weeks ahead should not be left to a government that, frankly, didnt have the experience in cabinet to address these issues. So that now looks like the makeup that we have in what is this new war cabinet, if i can describe it as such with the current Defense Minister, the former Defense Minister benny gantz and Benjamin Netanyahu and heading up the Decision Making for the state of israel to address, as i say, the complexities of What Happens Next. Lets just consider those. They have a Ground Incursion on the table. They have described by the idf saturated the southern border with troops now in anticipation, one assumes, of a Ground Incursion. Were not seeing that as of yet, but the complexities weve been reporting now for hours in that you have these hostages being held in various locations as described by hamas around gaza and then the wider story which is the plight of the palestinians who are in gaza. We have a thousand dead and a total Siege Of Gaza and hospitals being bombed and no fuel now to the Palace Station there. Palestinians do work with generators in gaza. So there will be some generation of electricity and provided by generators, but you know, considering what it is that israel faces is Decision Making now and it has been clear for some time that there was a need for i dont want to call it levelheadedness, but experience, and this will be this will be demands from the outside from the International Community, from capitals around the world, particularly from washington demands that this war cabinet has the experience to make decisions at this time. Becky anderson, thank you for that context. Just to remind people what youre looking at on your screen there. That is gaza. It is just after 5 00. Yesterday we saw an extreme barrage of rockets coming from there and then the response of lots and lots of air strikes. Still, there is violence exploding there in gaza at this hour. I want to go to cnns hadas gold in jerusalem. For more context and what has just happened with the government, you know, benny gantz, the former Defense Minister is known as the old guard. He is someone who believes in modesty and very well versed in how the military works. He has been at loggerheads with netanyahu many times, but in this past election a lot of people were looking to his leadership. Netanyahu ended up winning and being able to form a government. Can you give us some sense of what this will mean between the two men if they are able to come together, form this government for the relationship, not just with the gaza strip, but with the palestinians in the west bank. Is that relationship forever fractured, forever changed because of what we have seen this attack from hamas . Well, in terms of the relationship between benny gantz and Benjamin Netanyahu. Benny gantz had been burned by Benjamin Netanyahu during the coronavirus, that crisis and there had been pressure him already prior to this war to potentially at some point maybe join a unity government to get the saudi and israeli normalization deal. Benny gantz had been at the white house within the last couple of weeks which raised eyebrows about whether the white house was traying to discuss some possibility of a Coalition Government. Obviously, we are in an entire different situation. This is an Emergency Cabinet, war government, that i dont think israel has seen since 1967 that Benjamin Netanyahu alluded to. It is going to be a small cabinet and its not going to include importantly the more extremist rightwing members of the israeli government, people like smoltrich and these are people that said the most controversial things. This cabinet will only make decisions related to the war. They will not make other decisions related to the issues of government and the controversial judicial overhaul is on pause while this war continues. There is expected to be a seat in the cabinet for lapid who has not joined this war government, though, but whats important about this is when you look at the names of the people in this war cabinet, these are people who were former Defense Ministers and two former chiefs of staff of the idf and this is a message to the israeli public. We are getting a grip on this. We have the right people in charge of this bwho will be making this decision. Dont worry about the other people in the cabinet. They will not beic maing decisions about this war and there is still a question here. How did it take for some long for this war cabinet to be brought together. There have been calls with ith in a few hours of saturday after that started when Benjamin Netanyahu started we are at war. It is amazing it took this long for it to come together. That comes to show how much divisiveness there is in israeli politics. Hadas gold, you live there and work there and have been watching every detail of how this has unfolded and its remarkable how long it has taken for israelis that live there. We thank you and becoky anderso. I want to toss it to john. This is the area were talking about right now, gaza with some 300,000 reservists perhaps moving to that area and that is where we find cnns Jeremy Diamond in southern israel. Why dont you tell us what youre seeing all around you . All right. We have apparently lost jeremys audio, but one interesting thing i wanted to point out, what you saw behind him were cars. Those are the cars of the reservists who have moved to what is largely the front line right now. Israels military largely made up of reservists who drive to get on site when there is a situation like this, so its remarkable to see what amounts to a parking lot of cars behind him. Once they get out of the cars theyre on duty and they very much could be involved in what could be an invasion or at minimum a Siege Of Gaza. Sir, great to have you with us. He was talking about what they intend to do in gaza and whether they intend to launch an invasion and friedman says what hamas wants is to trigger an israeli overreaction. Hamas wants israel to be brutal in gaza. What do you think of that . Well, i know tim very well for many decades and it was my first reaction, too, that they see a u. S. Saudiisrael megadeal as a victory for a pragmatic bloc in the middle east that would be at their expense and if they, you know, do these atrocities, they could trigger a very tough retaliation in a way that would make a diplomatic breakthrough Behind Closed Doors by the Biden White House and not viable in the saudi circles. So its possible and just one more reason why israel has to find the right balancing act between obviously protecting its citizens and going after the hamas elements who perpetrated the [ no audio ] and the Ground Operation between hamas and the other parts of the Palestinian People. Its a Tough Balancing Act for israel and its been said by others, i know, in your program, this is the worst, you know, Terror Attacks since the holocaust. Israel is operating in a Wider Network of calculations and well have to see how it navigates in the coming weeks. Indeed we will. David, will you stand by for one moment . Sure. Glad to. I want to go to the border right now or close to the border between israel and gaza. Our Jer Emy Diamond is back up there. Explain what you are seeing. John, this is one of the Largest Military mobilizations in israels history and what we have been watching along the side of this roads right next to an israeli base in southern israel is that mobilization in akd. We have been watching thousands upon thousands of military reservists coming to this base to begin the next phase of this military operation. They are coming here, answering the call. Some of them are coming before even getting their orders, and i can tell you in speaking with some of these reservists, what is really striking is how emotional this is for them. How emotional this particular mobilization is compared to the ones that we have seen in the past and that is a result of those surprise hamas Terrorist Attacks that took place in israel over this past weekend. The brutality that we have since learned about with which these Hamas Terrorists gunned down civilians. There are reports of beheadings, reports of babies, children and women having been killed and that was on the minds of all of these reservists who were here. You can still see so many of these vehicles that are parked here. These all belong to reservists who have shown up expect who have answered the call and some of them showing up in civilian clothes and some of them showing up in uniforms and packing into vehicles and heading to their next rendezvous point, but really, this whole area at one point turned into a large parking lot effectively. There was a huge traffic jam and it just gives you a sense of the scale of this effort and also the extent to which everyone here in israel has really been shaken by what took place over the weekend and shaken to their core and some of them, those of fighting age moved to mobilize. Jeremy, you were speaking about something that was a dynamic which hasnt been focused on yet, which was the notion that if hamas was able to prepare for the scope of the Terrorist Attack which they carried out, they may very well also be prepared for an Israeli Ground invasion into gaza. What are the concerns youre hearing from the israeli side on that . Yeah. Its exactly that, john. The sophistication, the planning of this hamas operation over the weekend and not only the fact that they were able to catch the israelis by surprise, but that they were able to cut multiple points in that border fence between gaza and israel and get miles into israeli territory, really, to carry out some of the brutal murders of civilians that they did carry out. It has really shaken people and the sophistication of that indicates that hamas likely is planning for the israeli response and given the number of israelis who were killed in those attacks, as we have heard from the israeli Prime Minister what is going to come next in terms of the Military Response, he has said is going to be unlike any Military Response to hamas attacks in the past. Beonthe scale of 2014. Beunderstand onthe scale of 2021. So everyone here seems to think the next logical step is a Ground Invasion and as of yet that has not been confirmeded and perhaps now within this Emergency Cabinet and government more decisions will be made. Jeremy diamond in southern israel, keep us posted when you see things moving there. I want to go back now to david makovsky, thank you for your patience. Its interesting to hear what jeremy says as those forces move there and as you talk about this Balancing Act For Israel and the need as they say to crush hamas in a much different way than they have in the past. They are talking about crushing hamas. How can you do that without, perhaps, ruining your relationships with others in the world . Its incredibly hard. Remember, they embed themselves and they hide in mosques and hospitals and israel didnt go after them because they didnt want to hurt a hospital in the previous rounds and now you have an added complexity of a Hostage Situation and the whole israeli ethos of leaving no one behind and suddenly there might be 150 hostages there and thats another point of very difficult navigation. So its not going to be easy. Im hoping with Secretary Of State blinken coming to the region. I know hes just going to israel and jordan, but im sure hell be working with the leaders of egypt, saudi arabia and the uae and i think here its very important for the region to really kind of step up in a certain way. [ no audio ] there are only certain things they can say in public becau

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