Live starts right now. Laura . Youve got a lot to fix with whats going on in washington. You think i can fix it . Hold on, im the want to fix this . You will not put that on me today. Laura alone can fix it. Well, then you have some very high hopes. Thank you so much, nice to see you as always. And we do have, to her point, there is Breaking News out there as republicans are just now choosing another speaker. The big question is, how long will this one last . Tonight, i am laura coates live. All right everyone, mike johnson, come on down. Youre the next contestant on the next speaker, right . Well, for the fourth time in three weeks, republicans have chosen another speaker designate. Congressman mike johnson was elected with 128 votes. Do the math, thats less than the total, you do realize. And get this, Kevin Mccarthy, who was kicked out of the job three weeks ago, received 43 votes. The next highest tally. Which means its Groundhog Day all over again. Just go ahead and cue up bill murray, as well see if this time they can get it right. But of course, no one knows the answer to this question. What are the chances that anybody can come to 217 votes, needed to win the gavel, with the way that things stand right now . Plus, remember earlier today if you are tuning in. It was a different person who was going to be the person voted on the house floor. It was tom amr. He has now dropped out of the race after donald trump thanked him with a blistering Social Media Takedown on the day that he happened to be in court in new york city. The former president , trying to control one of the few things he maybe can control. The maga wing of the Republican Party still causing chaos in the house and controlling what it does and how it can truly move. Now, as the court cases are swirling around, the former president , now the person that youre seeing over there, or maybe over there, mark meadows, is reportedly talking to prosecutors. Abc news reports that Donald Trumps former Chief Of Staff was granted immunity by Special Counsel jack smith, and they reported that hes met with federal prosecutors at least three times this year alone in their investigation into the efforts to overturn the 2020 president ial election. Now, cnn has reached out to Meadows Attorney for comment. But, what mark meadows tells investigators may really be the closest thing to getting inside of Donald Trumps head. Learning his State Of Mind. Thats the kind of thing that makes juries stand up, take notice, and lean on in. But you know when you get immunity, there are always strings attached, theyre not handing it out like halloween candy. There are strings attached. The question is, what are those strings and what will it mean for donald trump . And thats not only the bad news for the former president today. There is also his ex campaign attorney jenna ellis sitting here, Pleading Guilty in the Georgia Elections subversion case. Following now what sydney powell, ken chest burrow, they also pled guilty just last week. Ellis pleaded guilty to one felony count of aiding and abetting false statements in writing, and she gave a cheerful apology in court today. I relied on others, including lawyers with many more years of experience than my, to provide me with true information, especially since a kind of a penny, have . What kind of epiphany was that . One of convenience . Well have to see. Because after all, this is the same jenna ellis who stood up with Rudy Giuliani, who i assume is one of the lawyers she talks about having more experience, sydney powell, perhaps as well . Standing behind them to push bogus election lies. So is she now signaling that she might implicate someone else, and to that bigger fish or more experienced attorney might very well be . The big question tonight is who is the most nervous tonight . And our Breaking News, republicans, as i said, theyve chosen another speaker nominee. Representative mike johnson. This, after another speaker bid went down in flames earlier today. Lets go right to cnns melanie s nonna, who joins us from capitol hill. Melanie, this has been whiplash after whiplash, day in and day out. Im sure for you and everyone else. Congressman mike johnson has no clinched the nomination. Bring us up to speed. Laura, after three weeks of chaos and turmoil inside the gop, its finally looking like the and might be near. If you have some fresh issues with this republican conference, it would be understandable, because the past three nominees have not been able to get the job done. Theyve all had to drop out of the race. But this latest candidates, mike johnson, who just got the nomination, he just took a very key vote Behind Closed Doors. Its a Positive Side for him, because in that vote they had lawmakers voting on whether they back him on the house floor. And only three members said theyd vote present. Nobody voted against johnson, and every single other member said that they would ultimately back mike johnson on the floor. There were around 20 absences, so mike johnson is going to work with those members through the night. Theyre going to try to do a floor vote tomorrow at noon. But they also had a Press Conference with the entire conference around him. They rallied everyone inside that room, and it looks like he might be the next figure of the house. And i think one thing he really had going for him, laura, is the fact that at this Point Members are just exhausted. They were desperate to find someone, perhaps anyone, and really its interesting that this contest has shaped up not to be who is the most likable candidates, but he was the least hated candidate. And mike johnson, hes a member of the judiciary committee, he was a lower member of the leadership level, he is well liked by conservatives, not heeded by moderates, and so it looks like he might be able to get the gavel. But well have to wait and see. But it has been whiplash and unpredictability. No wonder they are trust issues. Those saying Behind Closed Doors that the vote, weve seen in the past there have been defectors. People who Behind Closed Doors said that youve got my vote but on the floor its a different story. What are republicans saying about Kevin Mccarthys role in all of this . I talked to multiple republicans who said that they believe that Kevin Mccarthy has been trying to sabotage every single nominee up into this point. Him and steve scullys, who was the first republican nominee, have had a very rocky relationship over the years and he said that he was working behind the scenes to try to move jordan over to him. Even recently, during these last rounds of ballots, there were 33 republicans who are still voting for Kevin Mccarthy on these ballots, despite the fact that Kevin Mccarthy was not in the race. So theres a lot of miss trust in the ranks about mccarthy and his allies, and what their motivations for. I think big picture here, laura, even if republicans do get a speaker tomorrow, theyre under so many inside the party. I was talking to one member who said they might be able to move on from this, but healing is going to take a lot longer. And they have all these Critical Issues that theyre immediately going to have to address. When thats government funding, which expires on the 17th, or aid for ukraine and israel. Well see if they can get it done tomorrow, laura. Somebody better call dr. Phil. Thank you so much, good to see you. Did you hear that . I want to bring in right now cnn reporter harry enten, along with scott jennings, whos also the former specialist to ioc didnt introduce you because you need no introduction. You hear that notion about Kevin Mccarthy sabotaging, thats the thought. He cant stand up on the floor to talk about jim jordan and talk about the relationship they had, but whats your reaction tonight, scott, knowing that there is now another person, his name is now going to be put forth, weve been here before. Yes, but it feels different tonight. What youre hearing from republicans is that johnson is well liked. Or just not hated as much. Yeah, doesnt really have any enemies. These people all have pockets of enemies. Johnson doesnt appear to have that. Hes a straight shooter with upper management. But in all seriousness, the his personality is so affable, so you keep hearing from members like, i like this guy. And theres a lot of fatigue that has set in. But the underlying realities havent changed for him. A Spending Deal has to get done with democrats, the aid package is laying out there, a farm bill that a lot of conservative members voted for is coming around the bend. And republicans only control one leg of the negotiating stool, which he will be in charge of. So theres a lot of optimism and relief that the idea of this getting done tomorrows insight. But the numbers, again. 2 17 is the goal, it got, what, 221 total numbers . But no consensus so far. No consensus so far. The margin of error is so thin. We should keep in mind that this is the smallest gop majority in 20 years, and its the most ideologically diverse republican majority ever. I was looking back at its most ideologically diverse majority ever, and when you have such a small majority, that makes things awfully difficult. But what i will point out, even though i dont have a scale or any statistics on likability within the caucus, i havent taken a poll, i will say johnsons ideological record kind of fits right in the center of that caucus. So hes somebody that can hold on to those moderates and also potentially appease those conservative republicans who tanked emirate earlier today. I cant get my mind to go past the notion of a potential salvatore. But is there a chance, if your mccarthy, who doesnt think that he ought to be ousted for any reason, we actually still dont know what deals he may have made over these 15 rounds to get that. Do you think theres any truth to maybe hes waiting for the right moment for people to say why dont you just come back . There was murmuring all day that they couldnt find somebody, that mccarthy there was even rumors of a Power Sharing Agreement between mccarthy and what was that about . Him and jim jordan. What was that even met . The idea that they were going to try to appease all wings of the party and get everybody on board with that. Pelosi, by the way, to this once before. She had a Power Sharing with a representative. Or an assistant. But then you saw mccarthy start to get some votes tonight in one of the conference meetings. He wasnt even nominated but he got some votes, so that murmuring got a little louder. And then johnson took control. So now he had nobody vote against him, there were some absences tonight, but it doesnt feel like theres a faction thats sort of the whole no faction. You have that with every other person. And with amber, he got knifed harder than anybody by donald trump, thats what sank him. That hasnt emerged yet in the last few minutes with johnson, and i just think that these republicans are tired of this fiasco. And if johnson is well liked and a piece is multiple wings of the conference, and this is a chance to put them behind them and move forward, a lot of people will jump behind it. How is the gop base looking at this . Come out repeatedly, chaos, circus, clown car, all these things have come out. If you ask very conservative republican voters, they are the folks who have been the hardest on 10 am or, they were the hottest on Kevin Mccarthy. And there of the belief that they want to stand firm. They want the congressional gop disdain for. They dont want compromise. They dont like that word, compromise. You see that in the polling. 52 among very conservative republicans saying these representatives should stand firm. Dont compromise, even if nothing gets done. And that is the proof that needs to be appease the most. Johnson looks like he has those very conservative republicans, but well have to wait and see. And how much leash will they give him . There we go. The funding deadline for the government comes up in mid november, and hes going to have to deal with the other party on this and on the aid for ukraine and israel and even if you throw the border and there. So well see if hes conservatives, who may be happy with him today, will they give him the latitude to operate and move the Institution Forward . Or are they going to keep on in a very short leash . You cant overstate the fact that you would ever be tanks by trump, and then obviously johnson reported. You had the deputy whip in johnson, the difference between the two of them is who was supporting trump. I believe that Johnson Deputy whip. Vice chair of the house of representatives. I believe he may have helped in trumps impeachment trials. Absolutely he did. I believe he defended trump, so theres probably some good feeling there as well. And in support of that texas a. G. About the election and the electoral college. Theres a lot of good will there, but well have to see. Because you know, wait 20 minutes. The weather might change. Who knows, maybe it will snow tomorrow. There was a Frost Advisory around the area. Hope springs eternal. Weve exhausted all of the weather. Thank you. Harry enten, scott jennings, thank you both. Next, what is mark meadows telling prosecutors and what will it mean for donald trump . Well have the very latest on the abc news report weve all heard about, mark meadows received immunity to testify to the Special Counsel, jack smith, in the federal election subversion probe. Well, abc news is reporting tonight that trumps former Chief Of Staff, mark meadows, has been granted immunity by Special Counsel jack smith. Meadows has reportedly met with federal prosecutors multiple times in their investigations into the efforts to overturn the 2020 election. We have reached out to Meadows Attorney for comment. Lets talk with two former Trump White House aides, former Trump White House press secretary stephanie grisham, and former White House Deputy press secretary sarah matthews. Glad to have you both here. Sarah, let me begin with you. This has been quite a day between jenna ellis and now mark meadows. What has been your reaction . Who should be the most nervous tonight . I think that donald trump has to be shaking in his boots right now. This was a blockbuster day in terms of witness cooperation. First, you have jen ellis in georgia who took a plea deal and is now agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors and testify against donald trump and the other coconspirators. This is someone who donald trump would know well. She would talk to him regularly because she was one of his key people on tv and that is what he cared about most, was his image that was being represented on tv. So, she would have had the ear of the president. Then you look to mark meadows, his own Chief Of Staff now is being reported by abc as cooperating, potentially, and has immunity of some sort with the doj. Mark meadows was a very essential figure when it came to the efforts to overturn the election and january 6th i think we see oftentimes with donald trump that he will try to say, i didnt know that person. We saw him do it with sydney powell. He said, she wasnt really my lawyer. He cant do that with mark meadows, can he . This was his own Chief Of Staff, his righthand. He definitely has to be very nervous about these developments, today. I want to read to you a part of what he had to say on truth social. He is weighing in, surprise, surprise. He is saying, in part, quote, i dont think mark meadows would lie about the rigged and stolen 2020 president ial election, merely forgetting immunity, all caps, against prosecution. Some people would make that deal, but they are weaklings and cowards. I dont think that mark meadows is one of them, but who really knows . What is this code . Unpack it. Sounds like witness tampering to me. I am no legal expert but it definitely sounds like he is trying to intimidate meadows. He knows that meadows was in the room and in these meetings and part of these conversations and would know a lot. So, he has to be worried if meadows is talking to the doj because that could spell trouble for him. Meadows is smart to cooperate if he is doing so because donald trump, time and time again, is loyal to one. He only cares about loyalty and return. So, it would be very smart of meadows to cooperate if this reporting is true. Stephanie, i am eager to hear what you have to say about this. I remember you wrote in your book, you wrote, if there was a scale of awfulness in the Trump White House, with five being the most terrible person around, i would give Mark Meadows A 12. You are not pulling any punches, stephanie. What has been your reaction to this news . I think i lowballed thats number, by the way. But todays news did surprise me a little bit. I am really surprised when it comes to anything trump related. I think that trump has to be extremely worried, and that tweet that you read, or the social post that he did that you read, that was definitely a veiled threats of having worked for him for five years, i know all of his codes. That was a veiled threat. I think that if the doj will offer meadows immunity, when you have to imagine that for three years meadows has done nothing but side with trump and say the election was stolen. He wrote an entire book saying that he stands by the fact that the election was stolen. I am n