Transcripts For CNNW The 20240702 : vimarsana.com

CNNW The July 2, 2024

Youre probably not easily persuaded to switch mobile providers for your business. But what if we told you its possible that comcast Business Mobile can save you up to 75 a year on your wireless bill versus the big three carriers . Have we piqued your interest . You can get two unlimited lines for just 30 each a month. There are no Term Contracts or line activation fees. And you can bring your own device. Oh, and all on the most reliable 5g Mobile Network nationwide. Wireless that works for you. Its not just possible. Im looking out from a roof top over tel aviv. This is midnight, 18 days since the horrific Terrorist Attacks by hamas caught this country and frankly the world by surprise, setting off a cascade of consequences, including now a humanitarian crisis in gaza. Part of that, the lack of basic necessities, food and water and fuel. Well get to that. But first to other major breaking stories domestically in the united states. After 22 days without a Speaker Of The House of representatives, republicans finally got their act together. The honorable mike johnson. Republican congressman mike johnson of louisiana is now House Speaker mike johnson, with unanimous republican support, taking the gavel from former House Speaker kevin mccarthy, and just like mccarthy, johnson is a vocal supporter of former president donald trump, and also was a congressional figure in the failed efforts to overturn the 2020 election, based on Donald Trumps lies about the election. More on johnsons election in a moment. We begin with donald trump today, making a stunning appearance on the Witness Stand at his Own Civil Fraud Trial in new york. Cnns chief Legal Affairs Correspondent Paula Reed is with us now. Paula, Tell Us Why Trump was on the Witness Stand today, and what happened . Reporter jake, he made a Brief Appearance on the Witness Stand today. Not to talk about the substance, about 250 million fraud trial, but instead, to answer questions from the judge about whether he may have violated a gag order that the judge had imposed. The judge previously barred trump from making comments about members of the courts staff. That came after trump posted about the judges clerk, suggesting that she was partisan. Trump was subsequently fined 5,000 when that post remained up long after the gag order was in place. But today, trump said that the judge was partisan, but also said that he was sitting alongside another very partisan person, appearing to once again reference the clerk. Trumps lawyers denied thats who he was speaking about, and on the stand, trump insisted, yeah, he was talking about the judge, but the person next to him he was referring to was the star witness, Michael Cohen. But jake, the judge wasnt buying it. He said he found trump not credible, and that these statements were intentional and hit trump with a 10,000 fine. By jay, going forward, its going to be a challenge for the judge in this case, and a judge in one of the other federal cases, to try to enforce these gag orders. At least the judge here in d. C. Said i need to put on a trial and protect court staffers, but we know former President Trump is determined to try to paint all of these proceedings as partisan pursuits. Paula, cnn has some new Exclusive Reporting on the Georgia Election subversion case. Were hearing more plea deals might be in the works . Potentially up to a half a dozen. The case charged 19 defendants. Four have secured deals with prosecutors and our colleagues have learned that prosecutors are in talks with around six other defendants, and that theyre open to strike deals with pretty much everyone except for former President Trump, where there appears to be little desire to compromise. Trump and his attorneys have suggested that this willingness to strike deals is a sign that this case is weak. But jake, we know this is you rico prosecutions and many criminal cases work. You try to flip defendants and really focus on a certain set of key defendants. And thats exactly what youre seeing here. So far, theyve been pretty successful in just a short amount of time. They have been able to secure plea deals from three people who worked closely with trumps legal team or directly on that legal team to challenge the results oh of the 2020 election. And in addition, a Bail Bondsman was the first person to strike a deal, and as someone said, these are pretty favorable deals because the first to squeal gets the deal. The sooner you are willing to strike a deal with prosecutors, the more favorable the terms. What we have seen, jake, over the past several days are some really good deals for these defendants. As i said, three of them, people who work as attorneys, who worked on these legal challenges, and they have all been really keen to protect their livelihoods, their bar licenses. Lets see what else prosecutors can do with the other defendants theyre hoping to secure cooperation from. All right. Paula reed waxing poetic, thank you so much. I want to bring in Maggie Haiferman from the new york times. Lets start with what we are seeing in new york today. Do you think a second fine of 10,000 is going to convince trump not to say whatever he wants to say whenever he wants to say snit as we have seen, jake, trump is going to test the bounds of whatever limits are put on him over and over. We saw that he was fined in this case previously, just not under these circumstances. It wasnt in the form of a gag order, but earlier in the case against him, it did ultimately have an impact but it took several days. This might have an impact right now. I dont know how long lived it will be. 10,000 to trump, he doesnt like parting with money, but its not a lot of money. You noted that Michael Cohen is trumps former fixer and lawyer, has been looking for a showdown with trump for a few years. How much of trumps anger today and trumps comments on social media are driven by seeing his former fixer on the stand publicly, publicly betraying him . Its a big piece, the personal nature of this feud. From trump, he wanted to be at this trial. He doesnt have to be there. Hes not a criminal defendant, and he didnt have to go. But he has wanted to go when Michael Cohen was testifying, planned to do it last week when cohen was supposed to be there, is there now. He thinks that things go better when he shows up at trials. He ended up getting fined by the judge, but he accomplished what he wanted to do. I do think that cohen gets under trumps skin and rattles trump in a very specific way. I think youre seeing trump try to do it back. And take a look at the image cnn just obtained of donald trump on the stand, its a courtroom sketch. We always like these interesting courtroom sketches. Everybody has their own little interpretation of him. This is trump being questioned under oath about the gag order. The judge didnt find trumps explanation as to who he was talking about when he referred to as somebody being more partisan than somebody else. Trump said he was talking about Michael Cohen, but the judge didnt believe him. He thought he was talking about his clerk, and then fined donald trump 10,000 for violating. He basically called trump a liar, Insinuating Trump was high under oath. What is your reaction to this . What is your take on the image . 6 unfortunately, i cant see the image, so im sorry i cant. I dont have a reverse showing here. But my take from what happened on the stand is you are correct, that the judge has not liked how trump has dealt with this trial, said very bluntly he doesnt find him credible. Does that mean he finds him not credible in every instance . I dont know that that matters. Trump is going to have to testify in this trial as a witness in the next two weeks. So the fact that this is going into his questioning with this level of rancor with the judge, its just not helpful to him at a time when hes trying to save his company. All right. Maggie, good talking with you. Thank you so much, my friend. A very busy afternoon. Were live in tel aviv. A brand new Speaker Of The House was elected a few hours ago. Republicans managing to get their ducks in a row, or whatever in a row. One of the first orders of business for the new speaker, thats next. Were back with another major story were following tonight. Its been 22 days since eight republicans conspired to oust then speaker kevin mccarthy, and weeks of dysfunction followed, weeks. Republican lawmakers were unable to come to a consensus on who should replace him. And the house of representatives, for the first time in american history, had no speaker and the legislative branch was not functional. Today, finally, House Republicans came together and, like adults, managed to coalesce around a candidate, picking mike johnson of louisiana as the new speaker. Manu raju joins me now. Speaker mike johnson is known as a big trump supporter, one of the voices to overturn the 2020 Election Results in states that biden won. Hes one of the most conservative members of the house. Are swing district republicans worried at all about any blowback for supporting him . Reporter well, thats a great question, jake. In fact, i put that question to a number of the member. There are 18 republicans from districts that joe biden carried in 2020. The question is, how does Speaker Johnson deal with them in their conference . Those 18 members all voted for Speaker Johnson today on the house floor. And even as he has taken issues to the far right like gay marriage that he opposes, issues like abortion, calling for stricter limits, bans that some of these members do not support. And also in 2020, drafting a brief, supporting a texas lawsuit, seeking to invalidate electoral results, showing that joe biden was victorious across several swing states. Mike johnson led the charge on that effort in the house. I put that question to several new york republicans, people who are supporting him, people who are central to this narrow republican majority, and could see their seats flip in the next elections, given how their districts are swing districts. They down played his past positions and said they want to look forward. Listen. Does that concern you . Im going to judge Speaker Mike Johnson with how he engages with members like me. This is the present. Today is 2023. Whatever happened in the past, again, that was a vote he took. It was it was those are questions he has to answer. I didnt draft it. Im not supporting it. Again, he remains even as Speaker Of The House, he remains one vote. But if the overall premise is you dont have faith in the results, lets be fair about it, and theres a whole bunch of democrats that did that in 2016. Reporter that last congressman trying to equate democrats questioning Donald Trumps victory in 2016 to the efforts to overturn the electoral results in 2020, two separate matters. But something that he plans to argue. The larger point here is that these members are giving him room. Speaker johnson room, after weeks of infighting. They simply want to move on with the legislative process. They said his past views are his past views. Now its time to unite and deal with the pressing issues that they have been unable to deal with, given the state of pral s paralysis among the gop infighting. Lets bring in my next guests now. Congressman, let me start with you. Why do you think Speaker Mike Johnson had The Magic Touch here . Well, well see. The speaker nightmare is now over, thats for sure. But now he has to deal with the nightmare of the rest of the world. I think thats what is going to determine his success or not. As you talk to moderates, those members who were those republican members elected in districts that went for joe biden, theyre going to be at the table. The door is not going to be locked. Theyre going to be weighing in. Already right now as we talk, the house is passing a resolution to condemn the attack that hamas did a couple of weeks ago, passing overwhelmingly in the house. You have ukraine, you have the israeli aid package that the president set up. Obviously, you have the cr in a couple of weeks. Those are going to be the issues that really determine the success or failure of Speaker Mike Johnson. So david, one of the things that is interesting is jim jordan and his role in the efforts to overturn the election was a big reason why people did not want him to be speaker. Specifically congressman ken buck, who said that was key to his vote, that jim jordan would not say that joe biden was elected president. But mike johnson, Speaker Johnson was also a big part of the effort to desert fie the 2020 Election Results. He drafted an amicus brief. He hasnt said that joe biden won fair and square. Ken buck voted for him. Why did jim jordan not get the pass that mike johnson got . Perhaps ken buck had a beef with jim jordan or doesnt like jim jordan as the face of the republican party. He will have to answer that. But you are right to note Mike Johnsons role in drafting that brief, in whipping up votes for republicans to get onto that brief and reporting back to the Trump White House about who is on board with it, and who wasnt. As you noted, that texas case was not even taken up by the supreme court. They just dismissed it as if it didnt have standing. This is something that Congressman Aguilar from the democrats mentioned in his speech, jake. And listen to how a republican congresswoman responded on the house floor. House republicans have put their names behind someone who has been called the most important architect of the Electoral College objections. Damn right thats fair, thats fair. We know how you feel. Yeah. Youve made that clear. Damn right is what a republican member shouted back to aguilar. This was a credential of mike johnson that he successfully sold to the republican conference, while it was a Discrediting Factor for somebody like tom emmer, who couldnt get out of the gate. Yeah, that was Congresswoman Luna from florida, i believe. Congressman upton, this is i mean, this is 2 3 of the House Republicans that voted to disenfranchise arizonans and pennsylvanians based on these election lies, so its not a surprise that the new Speaker Of The House is also an election liar, i suppose. I mean, emmer was the outlier. It was going to be an election whether it was mccarthy or scalise or johnson. I guess this is just what your party is now. Well, it is dominated by those folks. Of course, trump was behind this. I mean, emmer won a majority in the caucus. I voted with emmer on that same issue when i was of course, i retired earlier this year. Trump was somewhat neutral. When emmer won the nomination in the conference a day or so ago, he then came out against him and he actually torpedoed his chances. If you look at some of the press reports, youll see that even matt gaetz today is doing a victory lap. Its almost like they concocted this scheme to get rid of gaetzs arch enemy, kevin mccarthy, and tried to figure out how to get mike johnson in. As we all know, they really is not more of a conservative in the house than mike johnson today. But hes got the gavel, and well see how he rules. Hes got to deal with a senate that requires 60 votes to get anything done. And you have the Clock Ticking on all these issues. Ukraine, israel, the cr, the farm bill, the faa reauthorization bill. The list is long. They were supposed to be in recess next week. Theyre not going to be, nor should they be. They need to work. Yeah. All right. Congressman upton, david, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Up next, live here from tel aviv, new comments today from israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on his countrys timeline on a potential Ground Invasion into gaza. Well be right back. Were back with our world lead, live from tel aviv. The growing humanitarian crisis in gaza at an inflection point. If no fuel is allowed to be delivered into gaza, the biggest humanitarian operation inside gazas borders, were told, will shut down. The United Nations relief and works agency today warning that it is the only lifeline for palestinian refugees, and hundreds of american citizens are also still trapped inside gaza, unable to leave as hamas is stopping people from even approaching egypts border crossing. The ongoing israeli bombardment of hamas targets, retaliation for the hamas Terrorist Attack, mass murder and kidnapping of israelis and other civilians. Nic robertson has more. But first, israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke this evening a few hours ago, saying that a Ground Incursion into gaza is coming, but he still left the timing, at least publicly, up in the air. Reporter he did. And its hard to get

© 2025 Vimarsana