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CNNW CNN July 2, 2024

Im sara sidner in tel aviv and news on the dozens of hostages in the hands of hamas in gaza. We have learned significant progress in the press to release the more than 200 hostages. The latest on the war in israel. Im john berman in lewiston, maine, and the authorities are searching ground air and now water for the suspected mass killer. And now, we have an important update from the Law Enforcement that the divers are going into the river to search for a possible body. Im kate bolduan in new york, and the focus on the 18 lives lost in the tragedy. We are learning more about the victims and how they are being remembered today. This is cnn news central. All right. We just got an important update on the Manhunt For Mass Shooting suspect robert card who is still very much at large. It has been nearly 40 hours since 18 people were murdered in two locations here in lewiston, maine. It is still an active manhunt. There is still a shelter in place order that covers some 700 square miles, and Tens Of Thousands of people. We have key new information of what the authorities are doing today in this manhunt, and one of the focus this morning, just one, it is the boat launch where the suspects car was found not long after the shootings took place. The boat launch and the Androscoggin River, and a great deal of active coming there in the coming hours. We go to omar jimenez who is near there, and go through what we have just learned moments ago. Yeah, so we learned a lot, but we are also left with a lot of questions. For starters, investigators or police gave us the scope of the leads and tips they have been getting. Multitude, and they laid out over 530 tips and leads they have been getting and varying in what was credible and what wasnt, but it is an idea there. And also, they gave some clarity to what happened last night, but in the context of the moving forward, and what happened last night, they were outside of a House Shouting come out with your hands up, and they say routine search warrant, and we will see more of that in places across the area, and maybe it could be because someone is there and could not be, and it is part of the process. They also laid out a Multi Faceted approach by land, by air, and to search for this person, and not just on the water, and literally in the water. Take a listen to maines Public Safety director. We will be putting divers in the water. This is going to be looking like a major focus today with a lot of other people, but we have a lot of other irons in the fire, so we are not saying that we know that the suspect is in the water, and that is what we are do, but you will be seeing activity here, and so i am telling you that in advance and we have nothing to hide there at all. And we also have sonar going to be utilized here. Reporter one of the interesting things that he said there as well is that they have been working with the Power Companies that control the dams around here, and so they were able to slow or hoping to use to their advantage to slow the flow of the water to make it easier for their divers to get in there and get it easier to find some clues to finding the suspect. That is one plane of the investigation, and maybe the priority at this point, and the other is to find out what happened at these particular venues, and also, what led this suspect to go on the Shooting Rampage for starters at the venues. At the Bowling Alley just past this caution tape, they say they are continuing to piece through every square inch of this particular venue, and they say that every shell casing from the bullet could be a clue that helps them out here, but they are also trying to process what is over 70 witness statements here to aid them in the forwardlooking investigation. There is a lot of work to be done there, and another piece alluded to the family of card, the suspect, he as been on thec not get into the specificities, but there is a sisterinlaw of the Shooting Suspect who said that we are heart broken and this is beyond belief, and we are doing all we can with Law Enforcement to give all of the information that we can, and the hearts and prayers are with the families and they are not make any more statements, but it is what has shaken this community to the core, and communities remaining under shelter in place to the second day, and among those questioned, and still having questions of when the shelter in place order is going to be lifted and when these people can feel like they can go back to some semblance of normalcy even if they have not found the person who caused them so much harm, john. A lot of questions here. Yeah, and the answer to that is that we will take it on a daytoday and momentbymoment basis, and the shelter in place order is still in effect. And the bar behind me, schemengees, there is a greater Law Enforcement presence there, and processing the crime scene, and every bullet, shell casing and car in the parking lot going through to try to piece together exactly what happened, kate, as best they can. Absolutely right. While that Crime Scene Processing is happening, and the search for the mass Shooting Suspect happens, we are learning more about the lives tragically lost and now including a bludgeoned interpreter for the deaf. Joshua seals of Pine Tree Society says that he was participating in the cornhole tournament. He is the husband and father of four, and he is a tireless advocate for the Deaf Community, and he served for the lead interpreters to the deaf in maine governors pandemic briefings. We also know more about father and son bill and aaron young. We have learned that they were bowling together when this tragedy unfolded, and according to reuters neither of them survived. Aaron was just 14 years old. And then there is arthur artie stroud at schemengees wednesday night with his father. His dad left the restaurant ten minutes before the shooting began, and arties dad says that his son is survived by five children. Also at schemengees was 35yearold Peyton Brewer ross, and his dad said that he loved to be a dad more than anything else. His daughter elle has just turned 2 years old. Tommy conrad was a manager at the Bowling Alley, and he was also a dad, and we are told that he is survived by his 9yearold daughter. And the other victims and the names and the stories, and they go on and on. It is painful to read through them and hear about their lives. These victims, they came from all Walks Of Life and the age, and one of them a young boy just 14 years old and as we are learning about them, and learning more about them that night, kate, what we are learning is how so many of the victims tried to stop what was happening, and they tried to protect other people. I mean, looking at Joseph Walker for example, he was a manager at the bar. We spoke to his father, and his father speaking to cnn and he said that his son tried to stop the gunman with a butcher knife. He leaves behind a wife, children and grandchildren. Leroy walker, his father, when he spoke to cnn talked about his son and about how he remembers hi him. Loved by many. Loved by myself. He would love back to everybody. So, i know that he would do such a thing to save lives and not let somebody hurt the people he loved, and this is family, and for somebody to do this to so many families as well as mine, is just crazy. It leaves you an empty hole that i dont know how it will ever be filled. Pray for everybody. Pray for the people that passed away with my son. Pray to the lord that this does not happen again in our commu community. Leroy walker showing incredible strength to speak about his son. I also wanted to talk about Patricia Asselin who worked parttime at the Bowling Alley, and she also tried to do her part. She went to the counter and tried to call 911 when the shooter took her life. Also, there is brian mcfarlane, and you were speaking about the Deaf Community and i spoke to his sister last night, and she is deaf, and bryan was deaf as well, and he was there for the cornhole tournament, and his life taken as well. There is also Michael Deslauriers ii, and he says that his friend and he were killed trying to stop the gunman and trying to protect their wives and children, and his father said that they made sure their wives and several Young Children were undercover when they charged the shooter. What is striking, kate, as you know, is how the families when dealing with mourning and dealing with so much find the strength to talk about their loved ones in this type of situation. It is incredible. And it is just mad epping what they are going through and what you know that they went through in the final moments. Jason, thank you so much. We will continue to cover, because there are more victims that have not been identified, and we will continue to bring you more with jason, and thank you for following that for us. And when we go back to the community, it is the community trying to find robert card. And also joining me is Daniel Brunner who is a former fbi and chris, also former fbi, and we have learned in the fbi, we have learned more of what they are going to be searching, but publicly, they are not talking about how there are no known leads, and they do not appear to be, they are not reporting having any sightings at all. Do you see that as a problem this far out or should people not read into that . No, i think that you can read into that they really dont have a lot of viable leads. There are only three things that could have happened at the car scene. One a switch car and he is long gone. Two, he goes Into The Woods and either by boat or foot, and he has three or four hours of lead time and covers a lot of distance to presumably prepositioned, preselected location, and third they introduced to day which is highly, highly unlikely and he killed himself in the river or at the side of the river, and that is to me, it seem like a very elaborate box checking exercise. So i have to hope and think that they are setting up a perimeter around all of the roads in that vast wooded area, and this is reminding me of a search for the olympic bomber that i led in the late 1990s, and i see that as the most viable option, and if that is the case, it is going to be a while before he is caught. I will say, it does not look like there is any perimeter set up or roadblocks except around the specific search areas like the Boat Launch Area or the neighborhood where the houses are. Daniel, can you tell us what you take away are the that . Well, like they said in the Press Conference, you dont want to send people out in various areas and hope they run into something, because there is a number of wooded areas, and focus the energy on the where he was, and utilizing and finding the cell phone and looking at the cell phone track, because everywhere you go, the cell phone is providing a position to the cell phone provider, and i am sure that the Investigative Team is looking at that cell phone for the past two years, and everywhere he went, and the stores and what did he buy on such and such a date, and where did he go, and did he go Into The Woods and find those positions, and as to where he went on the river, and utilizing the historical area and work that he was doing possibly in preparation will reveal more clues as to where the investigative Command Center can focus the energy, and utilizing the tips from the public, and every single tip looked at, and lot of looking at where he was will reveal at where he could be right now. And chris, with the cell phone that he left behind and the note that he left behind, and it is described as a suicide note, and not speaking to the actual motive for the heinous crime, and could that be a break or is this just, is this just adding more to picture . I know john is very credible, but i think that this killer made no effort to put on a mask or disguise himself. He went in there full well knowing that he would be identified so by the very nature he knows that he is come out of this not knowing it is not going to end well for him, and Farewell Note or some say suicide note, but i describe it farewell. He did want to escape, and he made elaborate efforts to escape, and created a lot of confusion by hitting two sites and then he had probably three or four hours of lead time to cover a lot of time, and the survival instincts are there and were there. So i dont see this immediate suicide or suicide shortly after the act as something viable right now, but of course that is why they are by the river, and i dont believe they will be coming up with anything right there by where the car is. Daniel, i want to talk about the shelter in place which is focused nearly with lewiston which is the second most populous area here in maine, and also bowdoin and lisbon, and who is this really for . The safe Toif Ity Of The Indivi and look, if you are in shelter in place, or is that to make the Search Efforts for Law Enforcement go more easily . Absolutely to make the Search Efforts more easy, because if you have cars out there and people commuting back and forth and people out in the yards, and that is more activity to investigate. Is that person suspicious or that person is going to be relatively matching the description of the subject. It is just adding more investigative need, and it is going to take strain away from the Law Enforcement team, and the tactical teams out there, and the investigators out there, and it is just going to add more, and additionally for the safety of the community. As we saw in the pennsylvania fugitive, he walked into the garage, and grabbed a gun and exchanged gun fire with that individual, and telling the people to be sheltered in place, and lock your doors, and provides not giving him a resource, a Fugitive A Resource to maybe get into the house or maybe steal somebodys car, and it is just making his life more difficult. If you make his life more difficult, he creates an opportunity to make a mistake, and then Law Enforcement can jum on it like the Pennsylvania Funtive and then the Law Enforcement can move in on him. And chris, the kind of the everyone, hold on one second. We have Shimon Prokupiez, and i want to get back to him, because he is on scene. What are you seeing . So, we are driving back into lisbon back into the boat area, and we saw a ton of officers racing to this area, and i want to get out, because you can see it there in the distance, the officers here from the Lisbon Police department, but surrounding Police Departments have gathered here. We dont know why they are all out here with their long guns, and we saw the officers all racing here, and they raced through this dirt area here, and now they are sort of gathered there. What has been happening a lot, and we dont know if that is what happened here is that the Police Departments are receiving 911 calls and tips from the Community Members of suspicious activity, and perhaps this is what they are responding to here, but this is the neighborhood, and this is the community of lisbon where he dumped his car, and it is not far from here, and where the police have been doing a lot of the searching. And is, you are seeing more officers here from the federal protective services, and other Law Enforcement agencies which we have not seen before gathering here, and kate, they are trying to figure out the next steps. We dont see helicopters or drones in the air, but right now, all we are seeing is several officers gathered here, and you can see they are talking, and i assume trying to figure out what to do. I am assuming this is relative to some tip they have received. So can you describe what is that like a greenhouse or where is this . Yeah, so s. This is looking like a sign out here that says lettuce be your farm and you can see the sign here. Now, we are just waiting to see if more officers gather. And what is happening here, kate, they are trying to figure out what they are going to do, and again, we dont know what brought them here, but right now, as you can see, they are standing around, and as they have been doing here a lot, they have been responding in this way, and the response is a little bigger here than we have seen in prior occasions, so. Perhaps something significant has occurred here, and you can see now the officers are moving towards a location, so they are going to be out of our view here. We now hear a helicopter here. I was going to say, i can hear it now. We are going to move to the left, and try to move to the left to get a better shot looking down here from another Vantage Point here by this house. Take a look down. And we are far enough back, and the officers told us this is the area to stand in, so we can see what is going on, and i am going to try to see here. So, yeah, there is definitely a helicopter now over the air, and so, you can see this is, yeah. We can see them there, and bob can see them walking towards the area. And so, we are walking in the way as the officers continue to move towards area here. Are the guns drawn . They are out of the way. Shimon, stay safe and out of

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